Net neutrality open thread
I’ve run out of time for writing posts right now, but I thought I’d provide a thread for discussion of the topic of net neutrality. It’s a biggee. To spark things, go to Drudge and take a look at some of the top stories.
I think an open thread on this topic is very apropos, isn’t it?
“Net neutrality” has to be the most deceptive misnomer since Orwell.
Neo,
I’ll look into the net neutrality in a bit, but for right now, I’m just trying to digest this thread on Iran that I found through a Powerline link:
http://mosaicmagazine.com/essay/2015/02/obamas-secret-iran-strategy/
It’s pretty long if you read all the respnses, but for an overview of Obama’s goals and their ramifications, it is excellent.
Net neutrality …
Lets start with who, whom:
Soros
The enemy is within …
$196 big ones from Soros.
Lots of beans that …
expat:
I wrote a post about that Doran article a few weeks ago, here.
You’ll be able to keep your internet the same way you’ll be able to keep your doctor.
The MPAA and other factions in the Leftist alliance requires absolute obedience on the net for their profit and sex slave transactions. Without it, certain things become expensive or no longer as easily exploited.
When the Left captures the language, half the battle is won. See marriage equality.
NE Sen. Ben Sasse says this FCC proposal should be called the Department of the Internet.
Right out of Orwell and reason to reject.
The administration that freely used the IRS to suppress dissent, now wants control of the one communications outlet they don’t already control.
This should terrify everyone who cares about freedom.
Are we going to screw this up, too? How about taking a page from the prog playbook and pointing out that crony billionaires are buying the internet and they will make it terrible at your expense, America. Do NOT threaten the idiocrats semi-free porn, y’all.
Depressing to put this into the hands of government a nail in the coffin of the bill of rights !
This is what the left wants to do everything. It boils down to control. Control guns, writing, publishing, broadcasting, transportation, living arrangements, eventually to control all actions including thought.
Be sure of it. Pay no attention to how much the FCC and the Democratic minions bleat about “net neutrality” or “removing the digital divide right now. Once these rules go into affect, expect “investigations” into Internet based news and information outlets that, by some twist, happen not to toe the progressive line.
Rush was all over this today:
“I have here in my formerly nicotine-stained fingers an op-ed piece at TheHill.com, of all places. It’s by Randolph J. May, who is a communications lawyer, and he has been a general counsel for the FCC, among other things. He cannot believe what he’s seeing.
“This Thursday, Feb. 26,” my father’s birthday, by the way, “will be a fateful day for the future of the Internet,” so begins his piece. “In the nearly 40 years that I have been involved in communications law and policy, including serving as the Federal Communications Commission’s (FCC) associate general counsel, this action, without a doubt, is one of the agency’s most misguided.”
He’s being polite when he calls it misguided. It’s not misguided. This is what I mean. They know exactly what they’re doing. They’re not bumbling fools here at the Regime. And why do people continue to afford them and extend to them that possibility. They’re not a bunch of bumbling fools. They’re not a bunch of misguided kids running around. These are people knowing full well what they’re doing. It’s exactly what they’ve intended to do. Bumbling around, it’s not misguided behavior going on here.
Anyway. “The sad reality is that,” he continues, “without any convincing evidence of market failure and consumer harm, the FCC is poised, on a 3-2 party-line vote, to expand its control over Internet providers in ways that threaten the Internet’s future growth and vibrancy.”
“Here is the nub of the matter,” according to Randolph J. May. “By choosing to regulate Internet providers as old-fashioned public utilities in order to enforce ‘neutrality’ mandates, the commission will discourage private-sector investment and innovation for many years to come, if only as a result of the litigation that will be spawned and the uncertainty that will be created. And the new government mandates inevitably will lead to even more than the usual special interest pleading at the FCC, as Internet companies try to advantage themselves and disadvantage their competitors by seeking favored regulatory treatment.” . . .
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/02/25/net_neutrality_is_obamacare_all_over_again
Also: The Left will have control of the information highway. Licensing = Control.
With the one-two punch of amnesty and internet regulation, the ruling oligarchy is making it pretty clear that they will tolerate no opposition.
Anybody who thinks these new regulations won’t eventually affect content is dreaming. Look at all of the regulations about political advertising. Sooner or later somebody is going to claim that a blog post advocating or criticizing a candidate runs afoul of election laws.
Radio and TV stations have to be licensed by the FCC. Why shouldn’t Neo have to buy an annual license for her blog, subject to periodic review to ensure that she meets “standards”?
Attacking, disrupting and cutting your enemy’s lines of communication is vital in war.
When all means of reform and redress of grievance are removed, all that remains is submission or violent resistance.
That is what the militarization of federal agencies and police departments is all about, preparation for civil ‘disobedience’.
The ‘wild card’ is that only 15% of the US Military’s rank and file support Obama.
Geoffrey Britain Says:
February 25th, 2015 at 9:24 pm
It’s the alphabet agencies I’m worried about. Whether they support Obama in particular or not, their livelihoods and pensions depend on a strong, powerful Federal government. They will fight to keep their positions.
Meanwhile, the military is steadily being hollowed out, the officer corps is being purged and replaced with sycophants (which every dictator does), and genuine patriots and Christians are being discouraged in favor of foreigners, Muslims, and sex perverts.
If civil war breaks out in reaction to “a long train of abuses” the alphabet agencies will be handled through a combination of the 300 million guns in the hands of Americans and 4th generation warfare.
As for the military, all that you say is true but does not account for the time and circumstances needed to bring that to fruition. My estimate is that it will take another 10-15 years to complete that process, such that it could be relied upon. That time requires continual occupancy of the Presidency by ideological democrats , i.e. 2016 through 2028. IMO, events will not allow them that time nor will the left be able to escape exposure because they will not lessen their attempts at ever increasing control. The dirty little secret that the Left is willfully blind to is that the LIVs want two mutually contradictory things; a nanny state and the freedom to live their lives as they see fit.
In time, reality will disabuse them of the nanny state, just as its about to in Greece and the Left will disabuse them of their freedoms, as the Left will eat its own and the LIVs gradually discover themselves to have been useful cannon fodder.
rickl Says:
February 25th, 2015 at 8:47 pm
Radio and TV stations have to be licensed by the FCC. Why shouldn’t Neo have to buy an annual license for her blog, subject to periodic review to ensure that she meets “standards”?
Don’t give them any ideas:
Found here
Could anybody at this point be so stupid as to trust anything this administration says about any subject? Good lord, I think I’m living in a dream. A bad dream.
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What did you do in the war grandpa?
Both my grandpas survived otherwise … I wouldn’t be here commenting ….
This sounds much the same as Obama’s plan for the healthcare industry, while he couldn’t make it “single payer” immediately, it was a foot in the door which would lead to a government take over.
Hillary agrees, h/t:moonbattery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv1T-btNgsQ&feature=player_embedded
To understand the left, all one has to do is read the long telegram… its point is that they want power, and have no idea of governance. by focusing on the acquisition of power, they become best at grabbing it, and governence ceases to be a point…
now… when will the war start? china has more submarines than the USA… now you might say… but they are not as good.. which for the most part, is true. but note.. the sherman tank, knicknamed Ronson (due to its slogal “lights every time), was no match for the german tanks in either firepower or armor…
and the Zulu nation was not a match for the british… but won
a lot of hitorical examples are available
this is why strategy and tactics matters, otherwise the richest with the best toys always wins… which is never the case historically.
Ukraine currency is collapsing now as we talk..
run on the banks.. a dollar costs about 40, selling at 32..
this kind of thing is going to happen over the next 10 years till it finally reaches us… how long can you pay others to take your money and not have a problem? (negative rates).
to thse people a world war is a better fix than the alternative… in war they even get to make more money and insulateed by their wealth they often ride it out in other places… how many wealthy were able to leave germany, london, etc.. the jewish population in the US is so large because the wealthy jews fled… they even brought the diamond trade with them, so now its in three countries (amsterdam, england, and the US)…
all this stuff has ruined my last friendships as they were mostly liberal and as obama was elected and heaven did not sprout on earth, they get more hostile with me as if i am cassandra and made the outcomes happen… sorry to be a living reminder of your bad judgment, but what can i do? mine was the only family with experience living in the workers paradise,and i prepared accordingly.
the BBQ on labor day/memorial day is not going to be as much fun as prior years as they were mostly banking on being better off, not worse off. then again, they did not see themselves sittin on a million dollar property as being wealthy as they compared themselves to the lies of the kardashians, the neighbors with 10 million properties and so on.. (their father bought the property when the area was cheap and mostly counrtry… so they dont have lots of cash unless they sold and moved)
i feel bad for the socilaists son.. his bad attitude was transfderred to the kid who under achieved because working is such a sham… now he bakes cakes in a supermarket with spanish immigrants and makes lowest wage… if not for dad and his economic ideas, htis kid would be ok… (they dont particularly like my wife and i any more as we work hard and do things to earn lucre, and my son is now an officer in the US navy, while their kid is in jail the other does as bad as a illegal immigrant, and they are waiting for obamacare to give them free meds and free housing, which now they are much worse off… the deductible is going to kill them, the penalty will smash them, and when they find out they have to insure their sons till 28, they gonna yell that this is not socialism.. to wit i will say, yes it is…its just not the ad copy you thought was truthful!!!!!!!!!!!)
oh boy…
and now their internet is going to get more expensive, but for less service, their meds are now even harder to deal with, and ultimately, all the resons they voted the way they did, turned out opposite of what they thought they would get.
at least i prepared, as experience counts more than ad copy of the menshiviks…
Geoffrey Britain Says:
February 25th, 2015 at 10:18 pm
If civil war breaks out in reaction to “a long train of abuses” the alphabet agencies will be handled through a combination of the 300 million guns in the hands of Americans and 4th generation warfare.
Obama to ban bullets by executive action, threatens top-selling AR-15 rifle
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2560750
then other ammunition will be taken down as well
the dictatorship is in its final legs of acquisition
now, if only putin started a conflict or something went pop, they could just declare and search and thats that.
im sure russia and china will help them secure things..
no?
RR said,”Trust, but verify” in dealing with the USSR. For domestic action in these perilous times I say: Vote, but trust in your Second Amendment -stock up now. Bad times on the horizon.
Artfldgr Says:
February 26th, 2015 at 12:55 pm
and now their internet is going to get more expensive, but for less service, their meds are now even harder to deal with, and ultimately, all the resons they voted the way they did, turned out opposite of what they thought they would get.
at least i prepared, as experience counts more than ad copy of the menshiviks:
Vandalism in Arizona Shows the Internet’s Vulnerability
Yes, prepare, water is foremost. And, stay fit.
Uffda
The urban areas of the United States for the 2010 Census contain 249,253,271 people, representing 80.7% of the population, and rural areas contain 59,492,276 people, or 19.3% of the population.
Trumped there as most urban areas are not places where legal guns are at all easy to obtain, train, own, and so forth. not to mention JIT processes mean most urban areas only have days worth of food and supplies… not weeks… and spce is expensive, so storage is not practical… so, its pretty easy to get them to comply once you halt deliveries of what they need.
and rural areas are usually so spread out that they are not practical defensive positions either.. you and your 30.06 against a computer aided .50 cal over a mile away, dont have much chance.. add the other things and there is pretty much zero chance of any kind of action.
i have these discussions all the time, and the issue is that the people thinking this way have not spent much time to see how we deal with such things TODAY, vs yesterday…
a tracking point scope has examples of 12 year olds hitting targets at 1000 yards… their other versions are being made to hit targets at 3000 yards… thats over 1 mile
TrackingPoint Precision Guided Firing System | CES 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtRHNHqykUM
TrackingPoint’s initial run of PGFs have almost all been pre-sold, and the company is looking to expand in a big way: it plans to construct a technology demonstrator tentatively called the “Super Gun,” which will be able to fire a large projectile and achieve a typical PGF’s single-shot accuracy at distances out to more than 3,000 yards–that’s about 1.7 miles, or 2.7 kilometers.
combine that with infra red, and your toast..
Most significantly, Schauble wants the “Super Gun” technology to be usable while in flight–for example, while mounted on a helicopter or drone.
not very sporting…
and thats a surgical instrument… a A10 warthog with gattling guns could hit you with so much material that its incomprhensible..
The General Electric GAU-8/A Avenger is a 30 mm hydraulically driven seven-barrel Gatling-type cannon that is typically mounted to the United States Air Force’s Fairchild Republic A-10 Thunderbolt II.
thats since the 1970s…
nothing like 4,200 .30 caliber rounds per minute
and thats if they like you…
and thats just using ammunition…
dey got bombs too…
there is absolutely no way to make a stand in a rural area against such forces and not be eliminated the minute they decide to.
AC-130 Spectre Gunship in Action!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVXBHNvpTcg
sorry.
AC-130 Spectre Gunship
its a C-130 transport plane modified to deliver bullets.
it ALWAYS has the high ground… unless you think you can modify a crop duster to go after one…
the new crew modified spookies are spooky..
they cut more holes in them, added more guns and can drop 200lb bombs from the wings…
with in air refueling you can have them up and over an area for as long as a day or more…
AH-64 Apache is armed with a 30 mm (1.18 in) M230 Chain Gun carried between the main landing gear, under the aircraft’s forward fuselage. It has four hardpoints mounted on stub-wing pylons, typically carrying a mixture of AGM-114 Hellfire missiles and Hydra 70 rocket pods.
the new ones have cool silent blades… that is, you may find it hard to hear them coming…
and dont worry, they make depleted uranium rounds for that gun, so they can pierce tanks from above and generally disable machines, and break apart buildings.
there is tons more…
and all that has been tested over the past couple of years in florida, texas and many places in the US as the regime has had military drills for urban warfare internally in the states
and the police have them…
why do the police need apache helicopters?
what are they preparing for (that neo doesnt discuss)
Brevard County, FL Police Buy 8 Apache Attack Helicopters
What is broken isn’t the internet or anything connected with it. What is broken is allowing an administrative agency to define the borders of its own jurisdiction. The FCC is redefining the internet to be a utility – same classification as radio and TV stations – so that the internet then falls under its authority. Agencies don’t get to define the limits of their authority; Congress has that power, not the agency. Don’t expect many to agree with me, though, as I seem to be nearly 100 years late with this objection; aren’t I?
Artfldgr
You are addressing an all out revolt of the citizenry against the full military might of the government. If it ever got that bad I suspect much, if not most of the armed forces would also revolt. A long ways off if at all in my book.
Near term I’m more concerned with societal breakdown when the dole runs out. Roving lawless mobs looking for food and loot. A plan to gather armed family and/or neighbors in self defense will serve to send the undisciplined mob to easier victims. Which the vast majority of unprepared citizens will be.
The recent riots in Greece are a good preview. They ceased because the EU bailed the government out. There is no sugar daddy to bail the US out if we are in that situation.
Uffda… if you have roving bands of people with guns and thefts, your gonna have the military (ie national guard not the regulars due to posse commitatus).
we get them out and about for a heck of a lot less than what your pointing… and GREECE is not the USA…
going back to history, iut was the national guard that shot the kids at kent state… what happened at kent state is a lot less than what your describing in your second paragraph.
once again, it boils down to what you know and even more, what you dont know which there is no way to tell you dont know unless you look.
North Carolina National Guard Rapid Reaction Force Civil Unrest Training Photos
https://publicintelligence.net/north-carolina-national-guard-rrf-photos/
The following photos depict soldiers from the 252nd Combined Arms Battalion training in June for their role as a “rapid reaction force” capable of responding anywhere in the state of North Carolina within “four to eight hours with additional forces arriving within 24 to 36 hours.” The same unit trained in March to respond “to an emergency ahead of federal assets by providing site security, establishing roadblocks or checkpoints, and assisting civilian authorities in controlling civil disturbances.”
so you can bet that within 24 hours of your roving bands… the military will be there… and way before that the police, swat, and local military, like the guys you have in the train stations and other places here, will be bottling them up in an area they cant leave…
and your wrong about most of the armed forces revolting…
it doesnt fit reality, it does fit hollyweird…
the armed forces will act to restore a semblence of quiet.
from tailand, to usa, they will do this…
there are MANY examples of them grabbing control in such things, and then giving control back to the powers that be once things calmed down.
give me ONE example in the past 150 years where the military did what you just said… you wont be able to as it does not happen… and you can go farther back than 150 years…
Most of this was obvious. I saw plenty of it years ago. The strategic requirements of totalitarian regimes are very stable throughout history.
Did people really think they were going to allow the internet an exemption?
People must be truly stupid and satisfied with the slave chokes on them.