As for me and mine, we’ll salute and respect that doggone ol’Eye-Talian Racist, Christopher Columbus, and that 1492 boggoted jaunt set up by those rich and snooty Spanish Imperialists with the larger purpose of dominating and exploiting the sinless victims aka Indigenous Peoples.
****, I HATE the PC-Slave Culture we’ve become. For other Political Correctness haters, be advised to see the current Branco Cartoon at LegalInsurrection. Plu-Perfect.
When given the option, I always choose “Native American” on forms where I’m required to self-identify. I was born here. Nobody can tell me I’m not native to this country. Am I “indigenous” too? That I’m not sure of. We’ve only been here since 1862.
Seems the Lefties all have their panties in a twist because Mr Ben Shelly the honorable head of the Navaho Nation was seen in the company of Dan Snyder at the Redskins Cardinals game. Mr Shelly
& (his wife ?) a lady in his company who also appeared to be Navaho, were both wearing Redskins
ball caps !!! How cool is that ? All the little whiney Lefties were complaining on twitchy. Oh how can he do that ??? he’s harming our mission to end racism
whaa whaa !!!
I always thought using Native American imagery in sports was a great way to keep their culture alive & in the public consciousness! BTW Columbus was cool too.
I guess I spelled Navajo wrong ! 🙁
“It’s never about the [purported] issue, it’s always about [using the ‘issue’ to further] the revolution.” David Horowitz
As a direct descendent of a Little Big Horn survivor my response to this is drop dead. I’m sure my Anglo-Saxon ancestors felt the same way when the Normans stole the whole country from them in 1066 or the Romano-Britons when my Saxon relatives first showed up.
I’ll bet whoever “owned” the “Sacred Pa Sapa” (Black Hills) before the Sioux stole it felt the same way.
Christopher Columbus was a deeply enigmatic person, who seemed to prefer that his background not be especially well known. And yes, he was not a very nice man in some respects. (I’m not referring to his superior attitude towards indigenous Americans; he was very much a man of his times in that regard. No, I’d refer instead to how, for example, he kept morale up on his ship by offering a substantial reward for the first sailor to sight land… and then refused to pay up when the time came.)
Let it be remembered, however, that he sailed across the Atlantic Ocean with NO modern instruments of any sort, and made it back home again. He then repeated the experience, and hit the bulls-eye in three subsequent expeditions. I rarely see him credited for his genius in navigation, a feat few people in history have even attempted, never mind done successfully!
Molly, he got off the reservation and now they are trying to put him back, to keep him safe from the Red Skins…
I’m with GB on this one.
As for the pre-Columbian natives: it’s anti-traditional to celebrate those who did absolutely nothing.
It was Columbus that discovered them… Plains Indians didn’t sail off to Italy — or even Iberia.
Though there is actually VERY strong evidence that, unlike Europeans, the American natives DID know about the existence of Europe.
Strangely, considering the Gulf Stream, it’s always been the case that it was the Europeans sailing west that crossed the Atlantic.
There are no tales of Americans sailing east to Europe. Absolutely none. They must have heard about how tough life was in the Old World… OR:
Their legends told of super men (Whites/ ghosts) … There be great danger there.
Such legends exist for virtually every Atlantic tribe — and many an inland tribe.
&&&
There was a race ware in the ancient past. But not so ancient that its legacy did not survive down to the modern time.
The legends universally held that it took 30 to 50 Asiatic Americans to defeat a single European American.
Allowing for hyperbole, exaggeration, and such, it would appear that the European Americans got started 10,000 years earlier; then became upper caste — like the Spartans of Greece — and then at some point the under class Asiatics revolted and liquidated ALL of the European American blood.
That saga fits the facts, (DNA) the legends, and the legacy structures.
%%%
For modern Leftists, all that matters is the race-hustle.
Both of my mother’s brothers married women who were 1/8 Indian. They were both ahead of their time in being successful career women.
My father had some Indian ancestry.
The intermarriage of Europeans and Indians is something which the Columbus Day_Day of Tragedy adherents often forget.
I’m “Native American”, too. As were my parents, their parents, on and on back to 17th Century days. Anglo-Saxon with a wandering Irishman or two tossed in.
I’ve spent a lot of Fridays in a Central Florida ‘hood in the past 6-years and have NEVER yet heard a black man or woman, boy or girl call themselves “African American”. Never. So, the Lefty Thought Police can dial 1-800-Bite-Me.
Recent DNA studies in Puerto Rico and Dominican Republic found that their DNA in both cases was 65%-68% native Taino indian. The rest was composed of 22% European and African DNA.
In Mexico 85% showed some Amerindian ancestor, the point being that while many did die, most were just assimilated into Spanish society.
Blah, blah, blah, indeed. Hail Columbus. I have nothing against the Indians (as they have been historically called) and their “vibrant cultures” (What exactly does “vibrant” mean? Oh, that’s right it’s a highbrow weasel word). But I really do feel this continent has done a lot better since Old Chris “sailed the ocean blue.” The Indian tribes are fascinating, with a fascinating (and bloody) history, but , think of it, they never figured out the wheel.
It’s funny how America remade the image into Columbia. Columbus was somewhat strange as a national icon, and is more appropriate to Spain and their gold/silver future mines in the Americas.
The Indians westerners encountered weren’t spontaneously produced in North America. They were one of several waves that occupied the continent. Thus they had no more right to the continent then the westerners did.
Does anyone actually think that left alone for the last five hundred years that Indians would have created a rich, powerful, free, technologically advanced society?
Ninety percent of the Indians who died did so from inadvertent disease transmission. As for those that died or were moved unjustly, at least as seen from today’s perspective, well that’s unfortunate. But it was a rough world back then. I’m sure if Muslims had taken over the continent they would have treated the Indians with love and compassion, after all Islam is the religion of peace.
Ralph Kinney Bennett,
IIRC the Aztecs (or maybe the Inca) did “figure out” the wheel but strangely never used it, except for children’s toys. Even weirder in a way.
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As for me and mine, we’ll salute and respect that doggone ol’Eye-Talian Racist, Christopher Columbus, and that 1492 boggoted jaunt set up by those rich and snooty Spanish Imperialists with the larger purpose of dominating and exploiting the sinless victims aka Indigenous Peoples.
****, I HATE the PC-Slave Culture we’ve become. For other Political Correctness haters, be advised to see the current Branco Cartoon at LegalInsurrection. Plu-Perfect.
When given the option, I always choose “Native American” on forms where I’m required to self-identify. I was born here. Nobody can tell me I’m not native to this country. Am I “indigenous” too? That I’m not sure of. We’ve only been here since 1862.
Seems the Lefties all have their panties in a twist because Mr Ben Shelly the honorable head of the Navaho Nation was seen in the company of Dan Snyder at the Redskins Cardinals game. Mr Shelly
& (his wife ?) a lady in his company who also appeared to be Navaho, were both wearing Redskins
ball caps !!! How cool is that ? All the little whiney Lefties were complaining on twitchy. Oh how can he do that ??? he’s harming our mission to end racism
whaa whaa !!!
I always thought using Native American imagery in sports was a great way to keep their culture alive & in the public consciousness! BTW Columbus was cool too.
I guess I spelled Navajo wrong ! 🙁
“It’s never about the [purported] issue, it’s always about [using the ‘issue’ to further] the revolution.” David Horowitz
As a direct descendent of a Little Big Horn survivor my response to this is drop dead. I’m sure my Anglo-Saxon ancestors felt the same way when the Normans stole the whole country from them in 1066 or the Romano-Britons when my Saxon relatives first showed up.
I’ll bet whoever “owned” the “Sacred Pa Sapa” (Black Hills) before the Sioux stole it felt the same way.
Some relatives of mine:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sager_orphans
By the way the Battle of the Little Bighorn took place in Crow territory and the village was located by Custer’s Crow scouts.
Here is sad account of the last of the Chimakum:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimakum
Yep.
Christopher Columbus was a deeply enigmatic person, who seemed to prefer that his background not be especially well known. And yes, he was not a very nice man in some respects. (I’m not referring to his superior attitude towards indigenous Americans; he was very much a man of his times in that regard. No, I’d refer instead to how, for example, he kept morale up on his ship by offering a substantial reward for the first sailor to sight land… and then refused to pay up when the time came.)
Let it be remembered, however, that he sailed across the Atlantic Ocean with NO modern instruments of any sort, and made it back home again. He then repeated the experience, and hit the bulls-eye in three subsequent expeditions. I rarely see him credited for his genius in navigation, a feat few people in history have even attempted, never mind done successfully!
Molly, he got off the reservation and now they are trying to put him back, to keep him safe from the Red Skins…
I’m with GB on this one.
As for the pre-Columbian natives: it’s anti-traditional to celebrate those who did absolutely nothing.
It was Columbus that discovered them… Plains Indians didn’t sail off to Italy — or even Iberia.
Though there is actually VERY strong evidence that, unlike Europeans, the American natives DID know about the existence of Europe.
Strangely, considering the Gulf Stream, it’s always been the case that it was the Europeans sailing west that crossed the Atlantic.
There are no tales of Americans sailing east to Europe. Absolutely none. They must have heard about how tough life was in the Old World… OR:
Their legends told of super men (Whites/ ghosts) … There be great danger there.
Such legends exist for virtually every Atlantic tribe — and many an inland tribe.
&&&
There was a race ware in the ancient past. But not so ancient that its legacy did not survive down to the modern time.
The legends universally held that it took 30 to 50 Asiatic Americans to defeat a single European American.
Allowing for hyperbole, exaggeration, and such, it would appear that the European Americans got started 10,000 years earlier; then became upper caste — like the Spartans of Greece — and then at some point the under class Asiatics revolted and liquidated ALL of the European American blood.
That saga fits the facts, (DNA) the legends, and the legacy structures.
%%%
For modern Leftists, all that matters is the race-hustle.
Both of my mother’s brothers married women who were 1/8 Indian. They were both ahead of their time in being successful career women.
My father had some Indian ancestry.
The intermarriage of Europeans and Indians is something which the Columbus Day_Day of Tragedy adherents often forget.
I’m “Native American”, too. As were my parents, their parents, on and on back to 17th Century days. Anglo-Saxon with a wandering Irishman or two tossed in.
I’ve spent a lot of Fridays in a Central Florida ‘hood in the past 6-years and have NEVER yet heard a black man or woman, boy or girl call themselves “African American”. Never. So, the Lefty Thought Police can dial 1-800-Bite-Me.
Recent DNA studies in Puerto Rico and Dominican Republic found that their DNA in both cases was 65%-68% native Taino indian. The rest was composed of 22% European and African DNA.
In Mexico 85% showed some Amerindian ancestor, the point being that while many did die, most were just assimilated into Spanish society.
Blah, blah, blah, indeed. Hail Columbus. I have nothing against the Indians (as they have been historically called) and their “vibrant cultures” (What exactly does “vibrant” mean? Oh, that’s right it’s a highbrow weasel word). But I really do feel this continent has done a lot better since Old Chris “sailed the ocean blue.” The Indian tribes are fascinating, with a fascinating (and bloody) history, but , think of it, they never figured out the wheel.
It’s funny how America remade the image into Columbia. Columbus was somewhat strange as a national icon, and is more appropriate to Spain and their gold/silver future mines in the Americas.
The Indians westerners encountered weren’t spontaneously produced in North America. They were one of several waves that occupied the continent. Thus they had no more right to the continent then the westerners did.
Does anyone actually think that left alone for the last five hundred years that Indians would have created a rich, powerful, free, technologically advanced society?
Ninety percent of the Indians who died did so from inadvertent disease transmission. As for those that died or were moved unjustly, at least as seen from today’s perspective, well that’s unfortunate. But it was a rough world back then. I’m sure if Muslims had taken over the continent they would have treated the Indians with love and compassion, after all Islam is the religion of peace.
Ralph Kinney Bennett,
IIRC the Aztecs (or maybe the Inca) did “figure out” the wheel but strangely never used it, except for children’s toys. Even weirder in a way.