The downed Malaysian airliner
There’s not much more news on downed Malaysian Flight 17 than there was yesterday, but I thought I’d leave an open thread for you to discuss it as further news breaks during the day.
Here’s a bunch of articles on Memeorandum to peruse, and one from the Federalist about what this might mean for Putin.
The geopolitical aspects of the crash have for the moment overshadowed the human aspects. But with nearly three hundred victims dead, it is a human tragedy as well as a political mess. One of the many tragic stories that will be emerging as more is known about the victims is the fact that a large group of distinguished experts in the study of AIDS was on board and on their way to a conference in Australia: 108 people and their families, in fact.
If Obama were president when the Lusitania went was sunk by a German U-boat I am sure he would have said that he was sorry that the passengers trip was cut short and he knew they were disappointed they did not get to ride all the way across the ocean.
At least when Clinton bombed the Chinese embassy, less than a handful died.
The Russians tend to have a shoot first, ask questions later concept. Such as the death squads being trained in America, used in Iraq, or used in Vietnam. The kind of thing that results from having scary superiors that will kill you if you don’t do the job.
It also helps the RUssians, that the US unilaterally demanded and pulled missile defense systems out. So those missiles cannot be intercepted, one way or another.
OldTexan, I think he would have blamed it on domestic Republicans and used it to outlaw Republican voting, back then. Wilson was always like that, wanting to wage war on people who got in the way of his power. If not Europe, then certainly America.
http://www.bookwormroom.com/2014/07/17/is-obamas-constant-inappropriate-laughter-a-sign-that-he-is-suffering-from-a-mental-disorder/comment-page-1/#comment-231907
An interesting set of youtube links from that author there.
A Reagan (kickstarter type) announcement and briefing to the American people of the Soviets shooting down another plane.
Ymarsakar,
Bho does grow evermore Wilsonian day by day. But his arrogance is far greater than that of Woodrow Wilson. I have recently decided to grit my teeth and listen to the messiah’s speeches and imo he seems more unhinged from reality with every campaign stop. Calling what happened in the Ukraine a “may be” tragedy does not reflect well on a man who allegedly ‘cares’ more than those nasty republicans eating their meanwiches and stinkburgers.
Yep, Wilson was a real piece of work. Ymarsakar, “Wilson was always like that, wanting to wage war on people who got in the way of his power. If not Europe, then certainly America.”
He also had the Germans convinced they would get a fair shake if they agreed to an armistice and we know how that worked out for them. He was so far in over his head and then he bailed on the talks and let the allies punch them in the dirt so hard they rebounded a few years later. That did not work out well for any one.
Could you imagine a president who does not have a clue about the issues making noise with his mouth that sounds too good to be true and then going out to lunch. Kind of ‘out to lunch’ full time.
So we have a President with serious psychological disorders and an opposition party with serious political disorders.
It’s a fine mess we’ve gotten ourselves into Ollie.
first they asked..
‘any weapons”
when none were present, they asked
‘any papers’, ‘are there spies’.
now…
Kremlin-Backed Insurgents Now Claim Malaysia Airlines Plane Was Carrying Corpses
The statements of Girkin posted on his Vkontakte page on July 18 appeared to be a lot more confusing.
According to Girkin, the plane’s passengers were already dead when the plane went down.
“I just talked to two people who were gathering corpses, both from Shakhtarsk (the city where the plane crashed) so they came to the spot only 30 minutes after the tragedy. I am writing from their words. They said many corpses were totally bloodless and looked like blood had clotted long before the catastrophe,” the leader of Russian backed insurgents wrote.
ok… yarmarskar, your turn..
but just remember, they accuse others of things they do, thinking others do the same, when that is seldomly true… as others generally dont live amorality claiming that morality does not exist.
Meanwhile Girkin’s posts claiming the credit for shooting down a Ukrainian AN-26 military transport plane were deleted and his official group on Vkontakte started backpedaling, stating that information was not confirmed and was just reposted from another source.
i wonder if he will get this far before commenting: Although the new version of the plane crash provided by the insurgents seems absurd enough to ignore, there actually is proof that it is wrong. The video footage from inside the plane just a few moments before it took off was found on the Instagram account of one of the passengers, Malaysian native, Md Ali Md Salim, who was flying back home from Amsterdam. A short 13 seconds video shows other passengers stowing their luggage.
Liberal law professor calls Obama power grab a ‘constitutional tipping point’
<sarcasm> on another note… articles apperaing saying “wait, we didnt mean it, we just wanted to make a living, not actually live in a totalitarian state… ” </sarcasm>
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not much difference…
Parker, I listened to the Obama whispers for some years after 2008, since it was interesting to see what the Left would do now that they had won the Presidency and had control of the Executive branch. Would they do everything they blamed Bush for not doing then? But the Whispers said something else.
And so I sprinkled some prophecies on the net every few months, just to see what would produce greenery.
These days, listening to the megalomaniac psycho is of little interest to me. Might as well read Nero or Caligula. That’d be a better guide to modern 21st century America now.
Y,
In neighboring Iowa, I was aware of the messiah back in 1996 when he was running for the Il senate. I stayed tuned through his 2004 (DC) senate campaign and his appearance at the DNC convention. By then I had his number. But I never imagined he could win the nomination in 08. Until recently I have stopped listening…. bho is unraveling before our eyes. There is no there there. If the repubs take control of the senate and ever more dangerous events unfold off shore aand at the border, he will implode. A narcissistic, fragile ego can only take so much stress. When that occurs Valerie and Michelle will be revealed as the wizards behind the curtain.
But I never imagined he could win the nomination in 08.
I first heard stories of voter fraud during the 2000 election between Gore and Bush. Before then, I didn’t really pay attention to politics, since I didn’t know what the D or R after people’s names on tv meant. After 2001, I watched the news, like Fox and MSNBC a lot. I also watched a lot of Chris Matthews, since I read the book on Tip O’Reilly.
Then I kept hearing stories of recounts, military ballots in FLorida, long after 2000. Then I kept hearing other stories in 2004, and in 2008 I heard Black Panthers were intimidating voters with sticks outside poling places, and it was on a video.
So I had a long time to figure out that the Democrats were gathering the power needed to forge 20 million fake votes. And that’s certainly enough to tip an election or two. I knew they were doing it, but it wasn’t until after 2008 that I could begin to guess by how many.
I began using a research methodology, which I called “assume that 99% of what the Left accuses their enemies of, is only and ever true of the Left”. Then trace back, deconstruct, and re-engineer events, see what had to have happened to make that true about the Leftist alliance/Democrats. So I researched and dug, and found a lot of interesting things.
And yes, 99% of what Democrats said about Bush and Republicans… was true of the Democrats first and foremost. Strangely enough.
One of the many things I find disconcerting about this, is the number of “pundits” calling on jugears to “Act presidential, decisive, blah, blah” …might as well demand a turd smell like a rose…to voice such an expectation of the incompetent marxist narcissist is shockingly idiotic.
AIDS, like other STDs, is a behavioral disease. If male homosexuals would curb their behavior, we could cure the greater majority of AIDS cases without further inquiry. Unfortunately, homosexuals and their heterosexual patrons want to normalize their behavior. The latter to remove scrutiny of their own dysfunctional behaviors (e.g. pro-choice). So, the only “cure” forthcoming is treating symptoms in perpetuity. It a politically, economically, and socially profitable and dysfunctional scheme, which keeps AIDS in the forefront of medical research.