[ADDENDUM: See this and then this for some strange synchronicity.]
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The voice of experience — 10 Comments
It’s reminiscent of what Ayn Rand used to say about socialism/communism — people who think it’s great haven’t lived through it.
Sometimes I think the difference between Americans and other countries is their idiotic, and mind numbingly arrogant belief about almost anything that, “it could never happen here”. The holocaust, tyranny, whatever the “it” is, they think they are magically immune. It’s as if somehow they (we) believe we’re different from other people, smarter, better, whatever.
It’s this kind of abysmal ignorance and arrogance that will unravel us before we know what happened. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc did not come to power because their people were uneducated, dumb, or different from us. They were no different than the average American, just normal people who were manipulated and eventually oppressed by smarter, more ambitious, ruthless people.
This is not the first time in recent years that Pravda has been able to offer us (the USA) the benefit of its experience.
It’s a sign of the times, I guess, that the flagship of the propaganda machine of the former USSR now has more credibility than the NYT, WAPO, LAT, CNN, NBC, CBS etc., etc.
What does that say about us? Am I the only one who is starting to feel like I’m watching (and maybe living in) a Tom Clancey movie made in Bizarro World?
Said it before, as have many others, possibly including neo-philes contributing here . . . so let’s all say it again:
Pravda in the old USSR was told what to print; whereas
the USA mainstream media print what they print out of sincere ideological commitment.
So which entity is the greater whore?
Pravda prints a point of view entirely absent in the USA mainstream media:
Global warming, the tool of the West
By Stanislav Mishin
Pravda
04.01.2013 13:48
For years, the Elites of the West have cranked up the myth of Man Made Global Warming as a means first and foremost to control the lives and behaviors of their populations. Knowing full well that their produce in China and sell in the West model and its consiquent spiral downward in wages and thus standards of living, was unsustainable, the elites moved to use this new “science” to guilt trip and scare monger their populations into smaller and more conservative forms of living. In other words, they coasted them into the poverty that the greed and treason of those said same elites was already creating in their native lands.
What better way to staunch protests at worsening economic and life conditions than to make it feel like an honourable job/duty of the people to save “Gia”. At the same time, they used this “science” as a new pagan religion to further push out the Christianity they hate and despise and most of all, fear? Gia worship, the earth “mother”, has been pushed in popular culture oozing out of the West for a better part of the past 1.5 decades. This is a religion replete with an army of priests, called Government Grant Scientists.
Various groups have fought back. This is including Russian hackers, who published a huge database of UK government, scientific and university emails depicting the fixing of data to sell Global Warming, er Climate Change (as if it never changed on its own). And while taking hit after hit, the beast, like Al Quida, will not die. As a matter of fact, the beast is on a steady come back, as it is quite useful during the down times recession. The US alone spends $7 billion each year on warming “studies”, which is, in truth, nothing but a huge money laundering operation, as no real science is conducted and vapid alarmist reports the only product generated.
Amongst the newest claims of pending disasters, is a cry that icepacks are now melting at three times the rate of the 1990s, even though there has not been any significant warming in the past 20 years. Greenland’s icepack melt off, has been linked to volcanic activity under the ice, heating it. Must be the magmamen and their SUVs. These facts, however, do not faze the Gia crowd and their Elite/Governmental backers. The fact that a super storm hit the NE US is also being played as evidence of GW. Thank God that before GW no such things ever happened. How are they to explain that Russia and Eastern Europe are projected to have the coldest winter in 20 years? Oh, but I doubt my Western readers are even aware of that.
Now, with their economies in a spiral of debt laden, non-manufacturing recession (if not out and out depression), the Elites, who sense they are loosing their grip or toe hold on key economic regions outside their home regions, are once again calling out their inquisitors of Global Warming and sending them towards the developing world.
The first salvo has been fired by a British Warming dandy named Lord Nicholas Stern of Brentford, who as an academic at Whitehall, has made a career and quite a bit of money off of this scam. Lord Stern, a former World Bank chief economist and author of the landmark Stern review of the economics of climate change, was a close associate of Gordon Brown and the Leftists, who with the Tory counterparts and in parallel to the American Democrats/Republicans set up the grand and self destructive economic schemes that have plunged their own nations and many many others into the abyss of poverty.
The good Lord Stern, in commentary on why countries such as Russia, China, India and Brazil, in other words, the BRICs, have to pony up cash and depress their own growth, made this statement for the Guardian paper: “It’s a brutal arithmetic – the changing structure of the world’s economy has been dramatic. That is something developing countries will have to face up to,”
His premiss is that even if you take out the deindustrialized West, run away Global Warming will not stop due to the industrialized world. Its now all the fault of those raising themselves up for the destruction of the world, from the phantom joke of GW. Lord Stern tried to assure that the opening salvo was not a salvo, by stating: “I am not pointing the finger at the developing world, just looking at what is necessary. I am not accusing or proposing, just calculating what is needed [to meet scientific estimates of the emissions cuts needed to avoid dangerous levels of climate change]”. More like a calculated accusation. After all, this is not some light weight of the GIA cult, but the movement’s chief economist who enjoyed the ear of the UK government: a perfect tool of the Western Elites.
Expect the cries to get louder and more shrill in the months to follow.
carl in atlanta: I blogged about this today and titled it Bizarro World.
We used to joke about pravda, now we joke about mslbgt, er msnbc.
MJR – this guy hits the nail on the head. Interesting thing – i sent both articles to a Russian colleague. He didn’t agree at all.
. . . which only goes to illustrate, there are both sides in the culture/vision war all over the place.
But is our side more audible/visible over there? — or is Pravda over there like Fox news over here (preaching to a choir)?
MJR — he resides in my office; so I couldn’t tell you what perspective Pravda comes from; although I gathered this guy is as you say, a conservative, and there are conservative people who follow him.
. His general thinking, if I understood him correctly, was guns wouldn’t do anybody any good because normal people wouldn’t be able to shoot anybody, because they would hesitate: “boot zee beed guyz all ready has made up mindz to keel you”
So, in English, by the time you are able to defend yourself, it’s too late, “probablee”.
I’ve known him for 13 years and cannot say what end of the political spectrum he comes from. He has elevated to an art-form the ability to be politically neutral. It is impossible to know what he thinks about anything like this. I suspect this is something you learn to do when come from cold war era Moscow.
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It’s reminiscent of what Ayn Rand used to say about socialism/communism — people who think it’s great haven’t lived through it.
Sometimes I think the difference between Americans and other countries is their idiotic, and mind numbingly arrogant belief about almost anything that, “it could never happen here”. The holocaust, tyranny, whatever the “it” is, they think they are magically immune. It’s as if somehow they (we) believe we’re different from other people, smarter, better, whatever.
It’s this kind of abysmal ignorance and arrogance that will unravel us before we know what happened. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc did not come to power because their people were uneducated, dumb, or different from us. They were no different than the average American, just normal people who were manipulated and eventually oppressed by smarter, more ambitious, ruthless people.
The Wyoming legislature is taking steps to thwart BHO: http://tinyurl.com/bzrvnv6
Other states will follow.
This is not the first time in recent years that Pravda has been able to offer us (the USA) the benefit of its experience.
It’s a sign of the times, I guess, that the flagship of the propaganda machine of the former USSR now has more credibility than the NYT, WAPO, LAT, CNN, NBC, CBS etc., etc.
What does that say about us? Am I the only one who is starting to feel like I’m watching (and maybe living in) a Tom Clancey movie made in Bizarro World?
Said it before, as have many others, possibly including neo-philes contributing here . . . so let’s all say it again:
Pravda in the old USSR was told what to print; whereas
the USA mainstream media print what they print out of sincere ideological commitment.
So which entity is the greater whore?
Pravda prints a point of view entirely absent in the USA mainstream media:
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/04-01-2013/123380-global_warming-0/
Global warming, the tool of the West
By Stanislav Mishin
Pravda
04.01.2013 13:48
For years, the Elites of the West have cranked up the myth of Man Made Global Warming as a means first and foremost to control the lives and behaviors of their populations. Knowing full well that their produce in China and sell in the West model and its consiquent spiral downward in wages and thus standards of living, was unsustainable, the elites moved to use this new “science” to guilt trip and scare monger their populations into smaller and more conservative forms of living. In other words, they coasted them into the poverty that the greed and treason of those said same elites was already creating in their native lands.
What better way to staunch protests at worsening economic and life conditions than to make it feel like an honourable job/duty of the people to save “Gia”. At the same time, they used this “science” as a new pagan religion to further push out the Christianity they hate and despise and most of all, fear? Gia worship, the earth “mother”, has been pushed in popular culture oozing out of the West for a better part of the past 1.5 decades. This is a religion replete with an army of priests, called Government Grant Scientists.
Various groups have fought back. This is including Russian hackers, who published a huge database of UK government, scientific and university emails depicting the fixing of data to sell Global Warming, er Climate Change (as if it never changed on its own). And while taking hit after hit, the beast, like Al Quida, will not die. As a matter of fact, the beast is on a steady come back, as it is quite useful during the down times recession. The US alone spends $7 billion each year on warming “studies”, which is, in truth, nothing but a huge money laundering operation, as no real science is conducted and vapid alarmist reports the only product generated.
Amongst the newest claims of pending disasters, is a cry that icepacks are now melting at three times the rate of the 1990s, even though there has not been any significant warming in the past 20 years. Greenland’s icepack melt off, has been linked to volcanic activity under the ice, heating it. Must be the magmamen and their SUVs. These facts, however, do not faze the Gia crowd and their Elite/Governmental backers. The fact that a super storm hit the NE US is also being played as evidence of GW. Thank God that before GW no such things ever happened. How are they to explain that Russia and Eastern Europe are projected to have the coldest winter in 20 years? Oh, but I doubt my Western readers are even aware of that.
Now, with their economies in a spiral of debt laden, non-manufacturing recession (if not out and out depression), the Elites, who sense they are loosing their grip or toe hold on key economic regions outside their home regions, are once again calling out their inquisitors of Global Warming and sending them towards the developing world.
The first salvo has been fired by a British Warming dandy named Lord Nicholas Stern of Brentford, who as an academic at Whitehall, has made a career and quite a bit of money off of this scam. Lord Stern, a former World Bank chief economist and author of the landmark Stern review of the economics of climate change, was a close associate of Gordon Brown and the Leftists, who with the Tory counterparts and in parallel to the American Democrats/Republicans set up the grand and self destructive economic schemes that have plunged their own nations and many many others into the abyss of poverty.
The good Lord Stern, in commentary on why countries such as Russia, China, India and Brazil, in other words, the BRICs, have to pony up cash and depress their own growth, made this statement for the Guardian paper: “It’s a brutal arithmetic – the changing structure of the world’s economy has been dramatic. That is something developing countries will have to face up to,”
His premiss is that even if you take out the deindustrialized West, run away Global Warming will not stop due to the industrialized world. Its now all the fault of those raising themselves up for the destruction of the world, from the phantom joke of GW. Lord Stern tried to assure that the opening salvo was not a salvo, by stating: “I am not pointing the finger at the developing world, just looking at what is necessary. I am not accusing or proposing, just calculating what is needed [to meet scientific estimates of the emissions cuts needed to avoid dangerous levels of climate change]”. More like a calculated accusation. After all, this is not some light weight of the GIA cult, but the movement’s chief economist who enjoyed the ear of the UK government: a perfect tool of the Western Elites.
Expect the cries to get louder and more shrill in the months to follow.
carl in atlanta: I blogged about this today and titled it Bizarro World.
We used to joke about pravda, now we joke about mslbgt, er msnbc.
MJR – this guy hits the nail on the head. Interesting thing – i sent both articles to a Russian colleague. He didn’t agree at all.
. . . which only goes to illustrate, there are both sides in the culture/vision war all over the place.
But is our side more audible/visible over there? — or is Pravda over there like Fox news over here (preaching to a choir)?
‘Socialism is the future’ — Russian Communist leader
http://rt.com/politics/zyuganov-socialism-communists-capitalist-711/
MJR — he resides in my office; so I couldn’t tell you what perspective Pravda comes from; although I gathered this guy is as you say, a conservative, and there are conservative people who follow him.
. His general thinking, if I understood him correctly, was guns wouldn’t do anybody any good because normal people wouldn’t be able to shoot anybody, because they would hesitate: “boot zee beed guyz all ready has made up mindz to keel you”
So, in English, by the time you are able to defend yourself, it’s too late, “probablee”.
I’ve known him for 13 years and cannot say what end of the political spectrum he comes from. He has elevated to an art-form the ability to be politically neutral. It is impossible to know what he thinks about anything like this. I suspect this is something you learn to do when come from cold war era Moscow.