Andrew McCarthy: “They really don’t want you to see what is in those documents.”
Andrew McCarthy is often my go-to guy on legal issues. He’s very sharp on the law and terrorism, which is what you might expect from the lawyer who prosecuted the perpetrators of the first WTC bombing back in the 90s.
McCarthy writes of the latest developments in Fast and Furious:
The issue in F&F is not the withholding of DOJ documents. The issue is the reckless provision of an arsenal fit for an army to violent cartels, quite predictably resulting in the murders of possibly hundreds of people including at least one United States law enforcement officer…
If this were a Republican administration, the press would long ago have made the Department’s obstruction of Congress a five-alarm scandal…But while Holder has been in the eye of what little storm there was, it has always been the case that F&F is Obama’s scandal. Holder has never done anything other than implement Obama’s policies and manage relations with Congress as Obama wished them to be conducted…The last thing Obama wanted to do, with the November election looming, was resort to the Nixon strategy…And, again, if the Obama administration’s story was true, they would want to release the documents that support it.
They really don’t want you to see what is in those documents.
McCarthy’s argument makes plenty of sense, and if I had to bet I’d say he’s correct.
However, I also think that Obama has a history of arrogance and secrecy. Yes, there may be a bunch of smoking guns he’s covering up, but I think it’s also a personality trait of his to say “it’s none of your business” when asked to divulge information (that’s the “secrecy” part). And he thinks he can get away with it, since he’s done it before many times (that’s the “arrogance” part). What’s more, he may be trying to see how far he can push his power in general, and executive privilege is an important tool in that endeavor.
Obama is the type who would lie even when the truth would serve him better.
The funny part is that some are claiming that Fast & Furious had its origins in the Bush administration. If that was the case, then wouldn’t Obama and Holder eagerly release the documents?
Holder and Obama for one thousand dollars Alex:
The intersection of these two lines on a chart may be said to explain the rise of Messrs. Holder & Obama?
What are the Peter Principle and Affirmative Action.
Where are the rest of the whistleblowers when you need them? Scared to death, I’ll bet.
When the dinosaur media has your back, it gives you a sense that you can do/say the most outrageous things and get away with it. The One may have overdone it with this, I can only hope, for change.
They really don’t want you to see what is in those documents.
which is what i said in the the other thread..
ie. lack of compartmentalization of talking subjects would mean that those documents and their BCC, CC and such would contain other information about other things, not just F&F
but note.
you have the middle east, Korea, and other places warming up for a fight..
now… right before the election, they trade Obama for Biden by maneuvering to an impeachment.
would Biden give up a 2 month presidency, or would he use all those nifty things that his predecessor used and through emergency put the election off, so that administrations aren’t in flux for the start of whats happening
Imagine, the Eisenhower of the new age will be Biden, and his opponents will be Putin, Héº JÇntÄo, and all of south America, most of Europe, most of the Muslim states, and his friends are either bankrupt or not feeling too friendly
another point to notice. the protections afforded the democrats, even when the problem is reported, is a recipe to attract the most brutal, manipulative, and nasty people who present otherwise.
as i said about the left, by using such people, they control such people. that they have protection as long as they do right, but if not, then all those things that caused them to be attracted to the party that shields them, come to bear.
its a natural reason why that side is so much dirtier throughout history… but its classical of a system built on favor over merit, as merit would disqualify them from either side.
the same is true of despotic work bosses, who hire or promote those who cant do the job. affirmative action making this easier. by doing so, the person who is getting a high salary knows if they lose the job, they never get to earn as much, so they comply with everything, even if its nasty (which is why i feel for my boss, but that don’t mean i am not a victim of policies pushed through the scapegoat)
so barney is in all the way, because they protect him from his own life. the minute he tried to do anyting else, you would find suddenly the closet door open wider, and all the skeletons come dancing out.
once Soros said he thought obama was not the man, the eye turned. the information from the past that was supressed is now coming out. there was a photo early in the election which was Obama mom naked. but now, the media and others are finding photos of his mom in blue porno and fetish magazines!
but too, think on this. when the graces seemed better, Obama would do what the plan or the commiseration was, it brought him so far that how can he do anything else. how else does a post turtle get on the post?
however, what if the plan was to mislead him? to use the user? to give him advice that would destroy the office of the presidency IF the protections were removed… the point being the assumption of the protections would embolden him to act in a way that without it, would not be prudent.
and all this would be hacking the wetware! ie. stuxnet is nothing compared to the wetware viruses…
rickl – F&F did have its origins in the Bush administration. It was called Operation Wide Receiver, but there were a few very important differences. 1) In Bush’s version, the guns were equipped with tracking devices so that they really could be traced. 2) The Mexican government and police were fully informed and cooperating in the operation. 3) When the tracking devices failed they canceled the operation asap.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2012/06/20/on_fast__furious_blame_bush_is_a_lie
Has anyone noticed this is a pattern that has been developed by his friends Erdogan, Chavez and Zelaya? First get elected, then expand one’s power to the point where democracy is so undermined it no longer functions. This behavior fits in with his recent illegal fiat on immigration and selected enforcement of laws.
Before I thank g-d for term limits I would to see some law preventing Michelle from running for President in 2016. Note: I am assuming he will be re-elected although he will lose the popular vote.
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“Note: I am assuming he will be re-elected although he will lose the popular vote.”
Interesting, but I hope this is a wrong assumption. If BHO squeaks out a narrow victory in the electoral college we will be inundated for weeks with MSM talking heads swooning over the wisdom of the founders in creating the EC. Yuk.
F&F is here to stay, throughout the summer and into the fall; as is the leaking of classified info vis-a-vis military/intelligence operations. Even Dianne Feinstein is publicly concerned about the leaks. Secrets have a short half-life and conspiracies are rarely successfully hidden. BHO is in trouble and stonewalling will not work in the long run. Holder under the bus within 3 weeks.
If Holder goes under the bus, it will not be Obama who puts him there.
The idea that Obama is refusing to release documents that could make Holder and him look good (because they show they did nothing wrong) seems pretty far fetched. What about Andrew McCarthy’s recent piece about the mole in the DOJ who leaked info on wiretap affidavits for Fast and Furious?
betsybounds,
You’re correct… the MSM will toss Holder under the bus, no need for the anointed one to get his hands greasy.
The lying, hideous Pelosi says that–ready for this one??–the Evil Repubs want to deflect attention from our conspiracy to suppress the vote. Got that? Do ya follow that malignant thinking? Comprende?
That vicious sl** makes Washington street Ho’s look honest and pure by comparison.
If he was going under the bus it would have been before nixonian or truman type EP. you dont play that card if you can dump the person and walk away in any way.
but on another note…
Artfldgr quote’s Congressman Ackerman:
“I mean everything has changed. The media has changed. We now give broadcast licenses to philosophies instead of people. People get confused and think there is no difference between news and entertainment. People who project themselves as journalists on television don’t know the first thing about journalism. They are just there stirring up a hockey game.”
Translation: We can’t control the narrative anymore and the rubes are on to us.
The Leftist Alliance is evil. And if you thought I was kidding about this years ago, well, maybe you’ll rethink things once you suffer a tiny little bit of what the Left outputs yearly on this planet of ours.
“Obama is the type who would lie even when the truth would serve him better.”
Truth never serves evil better than deception. That’s what makes evil evil, and good good.
A. McCarthy knows the basics, the fundamentals: the truth doesn’t lie.
So, when the defendant doesn’t want to produce documents, you don’t need to go very crazy in your suppositions. Occam’s razor works very, very well, here. They don’t want to produce them because they are very incriminating.
As they hiss and wiggle and condemn and rear up on every pedastal possible, remember what the core issue is: why won’t they produce the documents. Will the documents endanger our national security? Yeah? How?
The real reason may be tied to the connections of Mexico with North Korea, Iran, and Afghanistan.
The real reason, of course, is that the effort was meant to subvert our 2cnd Amendment but the collateral damage of exposure is the tie of Mexico to the foreign drug, slave, and sex trade.
Steve D, you’re using the terms “truth” and “lie” in that old-fashioned conservative way. To Barry, Holder, Sharfton, Feinstein, and the rest of the left-o-progs, “truth” means that which advances the Cause, and “lie” means that which opposes the Cause.
The hits an admin takes in using EP are frequently pretty serious. Presuming this “insane clown posse”–a term I find hilarious–is reasonably competent, their considered judgment is they’d rather take the EP hits than the document hits. Which, naturally, makes what’s in the docs probably pretty awful.
Another blogger suggested that, if this were designed to gin up outrage over guns to support restricting gun rights in the US, then dead Mexicans were necessary. If there were no Mexicans killed by these guns, the project fails.
We have dear friends in Mexico, known them for, starting with my wife’s spell as an exchange student, better than forty years, working on the fourth generation. I’m ashamed to talk to them.
To release the documents would be an admission that the Executive branch is answerable to, and can be challenged by, the other two branches of government. This would in turn imply that President Obama does not have unlimited authority. Even if there were nothing incriminatiing in the documents, President Obama would still protect them, in order to demonstrate and protect his own power.
there is another aspect i think people are missing….
in such a situation, once declared there is a presumption of validity for the EP.
Ive explained before that our system allows great evil for short periods as part of how it works.
but note, who gets to look over the material, and decide what belongs, what doesn’t belong, and so forth? and then after that, who decides whats admissible or not from that?
that is the person or persons that are being worked on now (dialoging to consensus).
without such a colluding person in place, crying EP would not work…
so the surprise in the cake may be the reviewer and such are in their pocket, so will review and neutralize the issue. and give it the patina i said was critical for them – the appearance of or actuality of some form of legitimacy.
what would have happened to the abortion rulings if someone wasn’t going to invent penumbras?
i should also point out that james bond 007 may have had a license to kill..
but that makes us forget about who can issue and take back such licenses..
oh,
and here comes the world war i said was coming and all part of the design, if you have actually read what THEY read, not what they give you to read.
we have a mig 21 defector to jordan…
(so now, either jordan has a mig21, or they give it back. does the US and others get to look at it? )
we also have syria shooting down turkish planes.
so perhaps turkey is now being drawn into the conflict…
how good will obama do?
how good will biden do if obama is out?
Lebanon’s Hezbollah-owned Al-Manar television station said on Friday that Syrian air defenses shot down a Turkish military aircraft, quoting Syrian security sources. “Syrian security sources confirmed to a Manar correspondent in Damascus that Syrian defense forces shot down the Turkish fighter jet,”
and
the British government effectively blocked a Russian cargo ship, MV Alaed, from transporting a shipment of “refurbished” attack helicopters from Kaliningrad to Syria’s port of Tartus, where Russia maintains a naval base.
Under sanctions announced last year, the European Union has banned not only exporting arms to Syriabut also providing related services such as insurance. Undeterred by Assad’s brutal crackdown on the 15-month-old uprising in his country, Russia, states The Telegraph, intends to comply with the stipulations of a 2007 contract by which it will supply 20 MiG-29 M2 fighter aircraft toSyria.
the Russian Navy is preparing two amphibious landing vessels, Nikolai Filchenkov and Caesar Kunikov, at the Crimean naval base of Sebastopol.
Nezavisimaya Gazeta uggested that the soldiers would be drawn from the elite Pskov airborne brigades and special forces units stationed in Chechnya. Voice of Israel, moreover, alleges that the Russian commandos intend to escort Assad to a safe asylum inRussia.
seeing the start of the convergence of this and a huge number of other things… too big to make a case with narcisists wanting short entertaining tracts, there was, and is no way to illustrate it.
they HAVE to experience the horrors otherwise
and as prior generations.. learn the hard way
and then be ignored by what children remain
Dubai-based Al Arabiya TV reported that Russia, China, and Iran, were planning joint exercises in the war-wrackedMiddle East country. The drills were apparently to consist of some 90,000 ground, naval and air forces, as well as 400 aircraft, 1,000 tanks, and Russian submarines, destroyers, and the Kremlin’s sole aircraft carrier.
“This is absurd,” scoffed Igor Dygalo, aide to the admiral of the Russian Navy. The report said thatEgypthad allowed 12 Chinese warships to navigate through the Suez Canal with the intent of heading for Syria.
sorry, have to go, i have some strange dresses to look at in the other thread, its much more important than world war, and stopping it… 🙂
What is going on at Rio+20, Lord Christopher Monckton concluded, is an “attempted coup on a global scale by the governing class against the people.
So now we know. The Russian cargo ship that performed an about-turn in the North Sea after losing its British insurance cover was indeed carrying weapons bound for Syria. Three newly serviced Mi-25 helicopter gunships, ideally suited to combating insurgents, were on board the MV Alaed, along with an advanced air defence system. As such, the vessel would have bolstered the military might of President Bashar al-Assad’s bloodstained regime. So our Government was right to stop its passage by withdrawing its British insurance policy.
But Russia’s swift response speaks volumes about its true policy towards Syria. Yesterday, the Kremlin made clear that when the MV Alaed docks in Murmansk, the ship will be reflagged under the Russian tricolour and sent back to complete the delivery of a lethal cargo. Previously, the vessel had been sailing under the colours of the Dutch Antilles — a classic flag of convenience — meaning that Britain could have executed a legal boarding operation simply by securing the permission of the Dutch government. Now, any such manoeuvre would amount to direct, and perilous, defiance of Russia.
The Kremlin’s decision shows, once again, that Russia is in no mood to reappraise its support for Mr Assad’s regime. Barack Obama spent two hours at the G20 summit in Los Cabos trying to persuade Vladimir Putin of the moral bankruptcy of Russia’s position, yet Moscow’s evident determination to furnish a dictator with attack helicopters betrays the harsh reality.
LisaM,
OWR and OF&F are similar but different. OWR started and ended under Bush, OF&F started and ended under Obama.