The Anchoress responds to the news that Obama was told the spill was very bad right from the beginning:
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Obama’s “my pet goat” — 23 Comments
He’s using the spill as an excuse to shut down 33 other deep drilling sites. He will keep them offline until the cap&tax vote. He can then trade turning them back on for votes. That’s what he did on health care with California’s agricultural water.
After watching how Obamacare passed, I’m sure his staff assisted with him, to get it through Congress. Obama did more than sign it into law. If he did know immediately how castrophic the leak would become I wouldn’t be surprised by what I propose next. That ck’s comment is on target. If the spill is going to be horrendous and the American people see this, the public will not only support cap & trade but ask Congress to take it up and pass it. Get all offshore drilling stopped and the only oil we get is foreign oil. No new nuclear power plants. Double or triple our electric and heating bills. Put us on the path to ineffecient and unreliable green energy. And Obama will praise all those schemers, Gore and all others that invested heavily in the green energy movement, for having the foresight to invest and should be held up as an example of the proper way to be a fat cat millionaire.
He’s using the spill as an excuse to shut down 33 other deep drilling sites.
An “excuse”? Considering the persistence of the problem, and the industry’s total lack of contingency for it, I think Deepwater Horizon provides a very good “reason” to stop deep water drilling. And I think it shows that we need to get serious about decreasing our dependency on oil. Why not scale back the ineffective wars to fund a major national mass-transit project? You get jobs, increased living standards, get right-wing Islamic militants off our backs, and decrease our dependence on oil all at once.
Obama is BP’s bitch. Typical corporate politician, through and through. If it weren’t for the popular outrage, he’d give BP a slap on the wrist for show. Without more organized pressure and an alternative to the Democrats and Republicans, though, I’m skeptical we’re going to see significantly more than a slap on the wrist.
I hope “Never let a crisis go to waste” becomes the epithat and impeachment the grave for an administration with a heart of treason.
Obama is BP’s “b—-.”
Hey Dresden, this is a family site. Why don’t you clean up your language.
Hey Axelrod, how about assigning us a troll with opposable thumbs?
Thanks. ‘Ppreciate it.
Well. I don’t know. Is this a family site? I’ve used a bit of language here, and I think others have too.
In any case, I think the truth of the matter is that BP is Obama’s bitch.
There. I said it. Give me hell if you will.
Take a look at these. I’ve not done the tiny url exercise.
There’s something funky going on here. Years ago I read, and became sucked up in, the Illuminati Trilogy. You didn’t want to be that paranoid, but still, there were things going on for which only a conspiracy could account.
Well, we’ll see, won’t we. Or–maybe we won’t.
we wouldnt be deep drilling if it wasnt for preventing us from drilling in shallower waters. when they originally made the laws and rules, going that deep had yet to be done.
Artfldgr has it right. Unfortunately, deep water has become the only option due to an activist Left who can scream pretty loudly against oil, coal, nuclear power, yet have no viable solutions –pls. note I said VIABLE to replace these sources of power. I don’t think anyone disagrees that it is important to work on devising alternate sources of energy but they don’t exist in any kind of volume that can fill our energy needs. The far Lefties & Hollywood can showboat by driving all the battery-powered cars they need, but the upshot is those batteries need to be recharged regularly. Recharging requires power sources. A LOT of power. But most of those folks don’t think that far! (By the way Dresden Scott, what kind of power were you thinking of for that “major national mass-transit project?” Wind? Solar? The ol’ steam engine?)
It is pretty shocking that none of the oil companies — BP is but one of dozens, if not more, oil companies that drill offshore –or all of them together have never developed contingency operations for all the things that can go wrong with complex technology required for building and placing equipment far under the ocean’s surface to access natural resources like oil.
That being said, apparently no one has, and it’s BP’s rotten luck — and ours — that their rig’s failure has resulted in this catastrophic disaster..
But instead of mobilizing leading technical expertise from all parts of the world and steer it toward positive action, the Eternal Campaigner Obama IS exploiting this crisis in order to expedite his own agenda re: energy and Cap and Trade and bleating BP “better pay!” (Hey, not only can he exploit this crisis for his Cap and Trade agenda, but it’s fitting neatly into his wealth redistribution plans as well). Instead of leading usefully and positively, he is just stirring up hornets’ nests of anger and outrage among the public (as if there wasn’t enough already — anger doesn’t clean up coastlines), doing everything he can to churn ever more fury and blame and make sure it’s not directed at him but solely at BP.
Americans are unparallelled in their willingness to volunteer time, money in times of disaster at home or abroad, but there has been no efforts by this Administration to organize evironmentalists and scientists, biologists and botanists to determine what people in the affected areas might be able to do to mitigate long-term damage and mobilize them for positive action instead of instigating more fear and horror at disastrous prospects.
It takes minimal common sense to figure out BP didn’t do this on purpose. BP has accepted responsibility and has confirmed it will pay for all damage, though it is fair to guess that there will be legal wrangling down the road as there will be definitive costs and then there will be subjective costs. Will individual persons be paid? Specific industries like hospitality businesses in areas that rely on tourism? And how much? For how long?
It is significant to note that there has been zero investigative reporting on exactly how and why the explosion occurred, identification of other very large corps. that are partners of BP’s on the Deepwater Horizon rig such as Halliburton, Transocean Ltd. (the drilling contractor from whom BP leased the Deepwater Horizon) and others.
The bottom line is that Obama and his administration are doing all the right things to aggravate the situation and nothing which might lesson this catastrophe.
Then again, what’s new?
Whenever someone raises the issue of mass transit, you know they are into coercion. There are only a few large, densely populated areas where mass transit can work, and that requires lots of traffic congestion and high parking fees to push people into mas transit. Most U.S. cities are so spread out that mass transit is very inconvenient. The left wants to see $5 gas so people will have to park their cars. People like Dresden see the spill in the Gulf as a blessing.
RE: Dresden: “Why not scale back the ineffective wars to fund a major national mass-transit project? ”
Wow, Dresden, a liberal who puts mass-transit for himself over other global citizens who are treated like chattel. We all know we can’t help or free everyone so Dresden calls it like it is, forget them all and spend your money on buses. I said liberal but maybe I am wrong there, not sure liberals are allowed to expose their thinking so clearly in public.
Dear Betsybounds: Cursing on this site may very well be apropros. I don’t doubt that your examples are, but Dresden, if you went to his site, curses regularly. His site, and hence his trolling exercise here, is an example of not a well-placed phrase, but denigration of the target to dehumanize.
However, what interested me more was your other comment where I find that I experience the same kind of shifting thought pattern. How much aren’t we being told? It can be very frustrating. Could the BP oil spill be a type of “Reichstag fire?” Since any eminence grise, like Soros, can easily observe his candidate is finished through popular methods, hasn’t the BP event already resulted in another sector of our economy being co-opted by the federal government.
Dresden: “Why not scale back the ineffective wars to fund a major national mass-transit project? ”
I’m with Dresden. We need to scale back the ineffective wars, and put the money instead into effective wars.
Common sense, really.
Curtis,
Well I see what you mean about Dresden’s site. However, even at that, the language isn’t the most remarkable thing about it. The most remarkable thing about it is something I find remarkable about virtually everyone of Dresden’s persuasion: They simply do not see the same world when they look out of their eyes that I see when I look out of mine. It baffles me. Many times, too many to number, I will notice some event that I think constitutes confounding evidence to their point of view, and think, well, that should wrap it up! There are lots of examples, but Israeli history and the chronicle of its conflicts with its Arab neighbors and their Palestinian proxies come first to mind. I know the Left uses Palestinian propaganda freely, but it’s hard to comprehend that they actually believe it. Some of them–at least some of them–do, though.
Betsybounds: I am a believer before I am an analyzer. But what do I believe?
Yes. Baffling. But there are a couple things that are pretty secure.
Note how the most effective, non-carbon, non- nuclear energy generator is also under attack—-hydroelectric.
These people who push for mass transit must like being socialist peasants. The American automobil is freedom- you go on your schedule where you want to drive. You stop where you want to stop. And you dont have to sit next to people you would rather not sit next to.
Oh the mass transit dreams! I’ve done my share of schlepping groceries by bus. It ain’t fun. City center to city center with a briefcase is one thing, but weekend trips to your mother-in-law when using the train would involve two or three changes and a taxi ride for the last stage is something different. I didn’t have to endure the latter because we did have one car in the family. But I’d love to see the mass transit advocates try such a trip at Christmas when they are bearing bulky gifts. Why should people in smaller cities and towns in fly over country pay more for energy to finance a few corriders on the coasts? This is just another fantasy of people who think we need to emulate Europe. They should go to Europe, live outside the major cities, try to furnish an apartment, feed a family, and try to have some sort of social life all using the busses and trains. All I can say is take very comfortable shoes and a good umbrella.
The mass transit true believers don’t seem to realize that many working class Americans live in small towns or rural areas that require them to commute 50-100 miles a day to hold a job. They can not afford decent, safe housing in the cities in which they work. When gas goes up a buck or two, these people are hurt greatly. Among liberals there is little real concern for the hardship caused by high energy prices.
But listening is not high on the White House agenda. Two people who have frequent contact with the administration told me recently that between Obama’s “arrogance,” as one put it, and his near-total reliance on his Chicago inner circle, as the other said, there is no welcome mat for dissent or fresh ideas.
One was talking about the White House view of Israel, the other about its handling of terrorism. Both policies are a mess and have added to the danger of war in the Mideast and attacks at home.
Meanwhile, over-promising and under-delivering is an administration habit. Russia and China, we’ve repeatedly been assured, have agreed to new sanctions on Iran, only they have not. And so the mad mullahs march unmolested toward The Bomb, the president’s internationalist engagement bid a certifiable bust.
How about the pledge to be transparent and end politics as usual? The modified limited hangout on the unseemly job offers to Democratic primary candidates in Pennsylvania and Colorado marks the official death of those promises.
The Gulf oil disaster is the clearest sign of an unsteady hand. While Obama can’t be blamed for the gushing well, he showed late and halfhearted recognition of the human and environmental cost, and still takes a distant approach. His three visits were little more than photo ops designed to quell criticism he’s too detached.
I’m still for the “foolish knave” option. In any case, the results are bad and getting scarier.
Sergey,
you know as well as i do that this is going to end in a bigger world war than the other two.
why? because tahts what progressives/communists/socialists think is a great way to change the people.
He’s using the spill as an excuse to shut down 33 other deep drilling sites. He will keep them offline until the cap&tax vote. He can then trade turning them back on for votes. That’s what he did on health care with California’s agricultural water.
After watching how Obamacare passed, I’m sure his staff assisted with him, to get it through Congress. Obama did more than sign it into law. If he did know immediately how castrophic the leak would become I wouldn’t be surprised by what I propose next. That ck’s comment is on target. If the spill is going to be horrendous and the American people see this, the public will not only support cap & trade but ask Congress to take it up and pass it. Get all offshore drilling stopped and the only oil we get is foreign oil. No new nuclear power plants. Double or triple our electric and heating bills. Put us on the path to ineffecient and unreliable green energy. And Obama will praise all those schemers, Gore and all others that invested heavily in the green energy movement, for having the foresight to invest and should be held up as an example of the proper way to be a fat cat millionaire.
He’s using the spill as an excuse to shut down 33 other deep drilling sites.
An “excuse”? Considering the persistence of the problem, and the industry’s total lack of contingency for it, I think Deepwater Horizon provides a very good “reason” to stop deep water drilling. And I think it shows that we need to get serious about decreasing our dependency on oil. Why not scale back the ineffective wars to fund a major national mass-transit project? You get jobs, increased living standards, get right-wing Islamic militants off our backs, and decrease our dependence on oil all at once.
Obama is BP’s bitch. Typical corporate politician, through and through. If it weren’t for the popular outrage, he’d give BP a slap on the wrist for show. Without more organized pressure and an alternative to the Democrats and Republicans, though, I’m skeptical we’re going to see significantly more than a slap on the wrist.
I hope “Never let a crisis go to waste” becomes the epithat and impeachment the grave for an administration with a heart of treason.
Obama is BP’s “b—-.”
Hey Dresden, this is a family site. Why don’t you clean up your language.
Hey Axelrod, how about assigning us a troll with opposable thumbs?
Thanks. ‘Ppreciate it.
Well. I don’t know. Is this a family site? I’ve used a bit of language here, and I think others have too.
In any case, I think the truth of the matter is that BP is Obama’s bitch.
There. I said it. Give me hell if you will.
Take a look at these. I’ve not done the tiny url exercise.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704879704575236553480511416.html
http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/theanchoress/2010/06/05/obama-knew-spill-scope-from-day-1/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/7804922/BP-chief-Tony-Hayward-sold-shares-weeks-before-oil-spill.html
There’s something funky going on here. Years ago I read, and became sucked up in, the Illuminati Trilogy. You didn’t want to be that paranoid, but still, there were things going on for which only a conspiracy could account.
Well, we’ll see, won’t we. Or–maybe we won’t.
we wouldnt be deep drilling if it wasnt for preventing us from drilling in shallower waters. when they originally made the laws and rules, going that deep had yet to be done.
Artfldgr has it right. Unfortunately, deep water has become the only option due to an activist Left who can scream pretty loudly against oil, coal, nuclear power, yet have no viable solutions –pls. note I said VIABLE to replace these sources of power. I don’t think anyone disagrees that it is important to work on devising alternate sources of energy but they don’t exist in any kind of volume that can fill our energy needs. The far Lefties & Hollywood can showboat by driving all the battery-powered cars they need, but the upshot is those batteries need to be recharged regularly. Recharging requires power sources. A LOT of power. But most of those folks don’t think that far! (By the way Dresden Scott, what kind of power were you thinking of for that “major national mass-transit project?” Wind? Solar? The ol’ steam engine?)
It is pretty shocking that none of the oil companies — BP is but one of dozens, if not more, oil companies that drill offshore –or all of them together have never developed contingency operations for all the things that can go wrong with complex technology required for building and placing equipment far under the ocean’s surface to access natural resources like oil.
That being said, apparently no one has, and it’s BP’s rotten luck — and ours — that their rig’s failure has resulted in this catastrophic disaster..
But instead of mobilizing leading technical expertise from all parts of the world and steer it toward positive action, the Eternal Campaigner Obama IS exploiting this crisis in order to expedite his own agenda re: energy and Cap and Trade and bleating BP “better pay!” (Hey, not only can he exploit this crisis for his Cap and Trade agenda, but it’s fitting neatly into his wealth redistribution plans as well). Instead of leading usefully and positively, he is just stirring up hornets’ nests of anger and outrage among the public (as if there wasn’t enough already — anger doesn’t clean up coastlines), doing everything he can to churn ever more fury and blame and make sure it’s not directed at him but solely at BP.
Americans are unparallelled in their willingness to volunteer time, money in times of disaster at home or abroad, but there has been no efforts by this Administration to organize evironmentalists and scientists, biologists and botanists to determine what people in the affected areas might be able to do to mitigate long-term damage and mobilize them for positive action instead of instigating more fear and horror at disastrous prospects.
It takes minimal common sense to figure out BP didn’t do this on purpose. BP has accepted responsibility and has confirmed it will pay for all damage, though it is fair to guess that there will be legal wrangling down the road as there will be definitive costs and then there will be subjective costs. Will individual persons be paid? Specific industries like hospitality businesses in areas that rely on tourism? And how much? For how long?
It is significant to note that there has been zero investigative reporting on exactly how and why the explosion occurred, identification of other very large corps. that are partners of BP’s on the Deepwater Horizon rig such as Halliburton, Transocean Ltd. (the drilling contractor from whom BP leased the Deepwater Horizon) and others.
The bottom line is that Obama and his administration are doing all the right things to aggravate the situation and nothing which might lesson this catastrophe.
Then again, what’s new?
Whenever someone raises the issue of mass transit, you know they are into coercion. There are only a few large, densely populated areas where mass transit can work, and that requires lots of traffic congestion and high parking fees to push people into mas transit. Most U.S. cities are so spread out that mass transit is very inconvenient. The left wants to see $5 gas so people will have to park their cars. People like Dresden see the spill in the Gulf as a blessing.
RE: Dresden: “Why not scale back the ineffective wars to fund a major national mass-transit project? ”
Wow, Dresden, a liberal who puts mass-transit for himself over other global citizens who are treated like chattel. We all know we can’t help or free everyone so Dresden calls it like it is, forget them all and spend your money on buses. I said liberal but maybe I am wrong there, not sure liberals are allowed to expose their thinking so clearly in public.
Dear Betsybounds: Cursing on this site may very well be apropros. I don’t doubt that your examples are, but Dresden, if you went to his site, curses regularly. His site, and hence his trolling exercise here, is an example of not a well-placed phrase, but denigration of the target to dehumanize.
However, what interested me more was your other comment where I find that I experience the same kind of shifting thought pattern. How much aren’t we being told? It can be very frustrating. Could the BP oil spill be a type of “Reichstag fire?” Since any eminence grise, like Soros, can easily observe his candidate is finished through popular methods, hasn’t the BP event already resulted in another sector of our economy being co-opted by the federal government.
I’m with Dresden. We need to scale back the ineffective wars, and put the money instead into effective wars.
Common sense, really.
Curtis,
Well I see what you mean about Dresden’s site. However, even at that, the language isn’t the most remarkable thing about it. The most remarkable thing about it is something I find remarkable about virtually everyone of Dresden’s persuasion: They simply do not see the same world when they look out of their eyes that I see when I look out of mine. It baffles me. Many times, too many to number, I will notice some event that I think constitutes confounding evidence to their point of view, and think, well, that should wrap it up! There are lots of examples, but Israeli history and the chronicle of its conflicts with its Arab neighbors and their Palestinian proxies come first to mind. I know the Left uses Palestinian propaganda freely, but it’s hard to comprehend that they actually believe it. Some of them–at least some of them–do, though.
Baffling. Really.
A real war can erupt every day from now. Erdogan is not bluffing: he mean war! See
http://senseofevents.blogspot.com/2010/06/whole-world-is-watching.html
Betsybounds: I am a believer before I am an analyzer. But what do I believe?
Yes. Baffling. But there are a couple things that are pretty secure.
Note how the most effective, non-carbon, non- nuclear energy generator is also under attack—-hydroelectric.
These people who push for mass transit must like being socialist peasants. The American automobil is freedom- you go on your schedule where you want to drive. You stop where you want to stop. And you dont have to sit next to people you would rather not sit next to.
Oh the mass transit dreams! I’ve done my share of schlepping groceries by bus. It ain’t fun. City center to city center with a briefcase is one thing, but weekend trips to your mother-in-law when using the train would involve two or three changes and a taxi ride for the last stage is something different. I didn’t have to endure the latter because we did have one car in the family. But I’d love to see the mass transit advocates try such a trip at Christmas when they are bearing bulky gifts. Why should people in smaller cities and towns in fly over country pay more for energy to finance a few corriders on the coasts? This is just another fantasy of people who think we need to emulate Europe. They should go to Europe, live outside the major cities, try to furnish an apartment, feed a family, and try to have some sort of social life all using the busses and trains. All I can say is take very comfortable shoes and a good umbrella.
The mass transit true believers don’t seem to realize that many working class Americans live in small towns or rural areas that require them to commute 50-100 miles a day to hold a job. They can not afford decent, safe housing in the cities in which they work. When gas goes up a buck or two, these people are hurt greatly. Among liberals there is little real concern for the hardship caused by high energy prices.
Michael Goodwin, a now repentant former Obama supporter again points out that Obama is not up to the task. Or, indeed, maybe its intentional.
A quote:
I’m still for the “foolish knave” option. In any case, the results are bad and getting scarier.
Sergey,
you know as well as i do that this is going to end in a bigger world war than the other two.
why? because tahts what progressives/communists/socialists think is a great way to change the people.
Woodrow Wilson – WWI
FDR – WWII
OBAMA (or after) – ???