Grim prospects here in Metro Atlanta. Got the axe two days before Thanksgiving, sure hope spring brings some relief, but I’m not holding my breath. Joe Wilson is right on so many counts.
Maybe I’ll head for Mexico, maybe cut some lawns, dunno…mighty worried
I hear you Will. I’ve been ‘underemployed’ for years as a temp and expect things to remain unchanged or worse under this President and Congress.
I got chopped last June. Can’t even get a nibble no matter where I apply.
Related to this issue is the fact that the Social Security program is suddenly running a deficit which was not supposed to happen for ten years. The unemployment of older workers has resulted in a surge of “retirements” as people seek benefits. This is coupled with the great decrease in workers to pay into the system with the payroll tax. The government has to make up the difference because of all the money it has borrowed from SS receipts over the years. There is no “trust fund” or drawer of money in Washington — just a stack of IOU’s.
That’s one more reason to not take on a massive new entitlement with the health care bill.
Another reason is the precarious state of Medicare. Last week the Mayo Clinic dropped a large number of Medicare patients from some of its clinics in Arizona because it was losing too much money. The Dems say they are going to cut $500 billion from Medicare to fund Obamacare. This is going to get very ugly.
10%? 11%? Ridiculous.
It’s more like 25 to 35.
Let them come to job fairs, with lines of people to enter stretching like snakes, around the block, then they’ll see.
Tatyana,
The experts say it is in the 17%+ range when you count people who aren’t ‘officially’ looking for work. As we know, most of those people are looking for work, regardless of official status.
The basics of Job Creation are easy and known: Lower Taxes and assorted financial costs of doing business, starting business, running business.
America can make anything we want to. Both National and Local Pols have done everything they can to shut down manufacturing in this great nation for 30 years now. The EPA/Green/OSHA/Liberal-Pol fronts simply won’t allow anything new.
That’s been 30 years now.
We could reverse the trend virtually overnight IF we wanted to.
They will not allow it.
I say we fight the bastards for every inch of American soil with bricks and bats if we have to until we utterly defeat them and send them to prison or exile – at the very least scorn and contempt.
You have another plan?
Hope this is not patronizing but Will, Hong and Lugnut be prepared to severely relocate. I was underemployed for years and then completely out of work in Virginia then finally got a job in a small isolated town out west. The family has to stay in Virginia but we are afloat for the time being. Also consider retraining for something quick and dirty job like security guard. A security guard license (2 days training) is good for getting a “throwaway” job.
Forget the jobs you want; take anything, anywhere.
I have a hunch things are only going to get worse; I’m far from an economist but I suspect the grown-ups don’t want to start investing and expanding while there is a confused adolescent at the helm.
BTW, good luck.
Bob from Virginia,
If we have two days to train for jobs we don’t want, why not two days worth of protests against our malignant political class?
I went to a Tea Party over Ch
…oops.
Over Christmas. It was very small (@300 people). I kept thinking, if there were 300,000 here right now they would more than listen – they’d send the freaking riot squad.
If there were 3m of us, we’d be sending the riot squad to roun d them up and place them in the American Bastille.
We need to gather the 3m and show them who is boss.
They need to open the East coast up for oil and gas exploration. The potential job growth could be phenominal – though not immediate.
One guy I know tried to recruit me to come work on a pipeline in Canada. I think he said he had seven years work lined up. Not sure if that was an extension of Palin’s pipeline or not.
Businesses don’t know what the rules and taxes will be next year. They don’t know what energy taxes will be or EPA regulations. They don’t know what corporate or personal taxes will be. They don’t know what kind of health care costs they will get stuck with. They don’t know if card check will pass.
Obama has shut down the business community with his effort to transform America. They are hunkered down trying to cut expenses and reduce debt. It’s a terrible climate for real growth, and Barry’s ideology won’t allow him to make the right moves. All he knows is pork and redistribution. His one trillion dollar porkulous package is a failure and we are left with the bill.
The electorate is getting what they voted for, good and hard.
Businesses don’t know what the rules and taxes will be next year. They don’t know what energy taxes will be or EPA regulations. They don’t know what corporate or personal taxes will be. They don’t know what kind of health care costs they will get stuck with. They don’t know if card check will pass.
Obama has shut down the business community with his effort to transform America. They are hunkered down trying to cut expenses and reduce debt. It’s a terrible climate for real growth, and Barry’s ideology won’t allow him to make the right moves. All he knows is pork and redistribution. His one trillion dollar porkulus package is a failure and we are left with the bill.
The electorate is getting what they voted for, good and hard.
Mr. Frank,
You are so correct. I run a little shop in CA of all places. Rather than actually hire people right out of interviews I’ve been forced to really “try out” prospects on a temporary basis for fear that they might not work out and I’ll get killed on the unemployment insurance. I’m also afraid of the health insurance mandates and additional taxes.
The California Air Resource Board tried their best to put us and our colleagues completely out of business two years ago but we were able to avert that disaster. Our CA State Fund Worker’s Comp insurance went from $13 per $100 in labor to $20 this year. Again, we were lucky to (for the first time in five years) find a private insurer that kept it at the former rate.
I wish we could relocate but ours is a service business with territories and we’re stuck here. Thankfully, knock on wood, we are managing to scrape by. But, like others, and other business owners I am nervous. All of this is so unnecessary. If only adults were running this country.
Why didn’t these fools grow out of their childish beliefs like I did? Probably because they were allowed to stay in academia and were never forced to actually earn their livings. What a shame for all of us.
I didn’t follow Fistgate too closely but I did read that the guy in question was making over $250k a year or something heading up (no pun intended) his right’s group. A “non profit.”
Imagine all of these people making tons of money in “non-profits” that exist in order to kill businesses. Not the type of group the Fistgate guy was running but all of the Greenpeaces, WWF, Sierra Clubs and the like. That’s a lot of money to protect. What would these people do if there were no Mann Made Global Warming?
The Western world is upside down.
I’m with ya, Mike.
Until the bricks start flying, the only thing employers and the rest us us can do is hunker down and save, save, save.
When and if the storm comes, I hope the Smart People in DC and the state capitals who’ve done this to us end up under guard in Gitmo.
I’ve been reading the Market Ticker, and just waiting for the other shoe to drop. I hate to say it, but we ain’t seen nothing yet.
I’m still employed, but am hunkered down and have been stockpiling everything I can think of for the past year. Because of that, I’ve actually been spending a lot of money but that is ending as I’ve more or less got everything I need. I had some doors and windows replaced over the summer with an eye towards improving the security of my house. (They really did need replacing, and will also save on energy costs, but security was my primary motivation.)
Whenever Communists take over a country, they always target the middle class for destruction. They cannot tolerate anyone who is independent and self-reliant. Those people must be crushed.
Mike Mc, I’m surprised to see your reply to my short observational comment.
No, I have no plan, and I’m not going to throw bricks – I throw like a girl – but the last year was the worse for me in all the time I’ve lived in US.
When I read news like the article quoted in the post, or threads like this one and contemplate possibility of yet another year like past one -only worse, without unemployment insurance – I feel depressed.
Then I see documents like this (just take a look at table 1) – and I feel bittter.
Or the documents like this, where a job of philosopher (obviously in academia; I don’t think they meant Diogenes in his tub) is 11th in rating, while architect – 86th -and I wonder, where did they put a job of community organizer, with its maximum pay equal to President’s salary?
I feel desperate.
Jobs. Oh, now, NeoNeo, The Bamma is gonna invent some porkulous GREEN Jobs ! Anybody happen to know what a f***ing GREEN Job is ?
How about we push oil exploration, drilling and refining, your Freaking Majesty ? How about we build a whole new generation of Nuke Power Plants, Mister Messiah ? Those would make a whole lotta jobs. Duuhhhhhhh. But, real jobs, employment and a refurbished, restrengthened Economy ain’t what you Alinskyite-NeoTrotskyists are after, IS IT, ‘Yo?
Thanks for the response Bob, et al.
Folks talk about the economy rebounding, I see nothing like that happening anywhere around here. Obama’s talk about jobs (whatever the hell that means) I doubt includes my demographic (over fifty, white, male). I think he and his administration have provided ample proof already as to just how they feel about “us”. No surprise, no surprise at all. At this point, my wife continues to retain her job, but that could change at a moments notice. Unfortunately, as long as this crew or anything like it are in office, nothing is going to happen to revive the economy and those not in the right “category” or connected to some entitlement program are going to continue to suffer. I’m not ready to throw bricks, because unlike the trust-fund Sandinistas and the Acorn people, jail will be mighty uncomfortable for a guy like me. I am however, committed to “Change” and will work for and with those in the political spectrum that are similarly minded.
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Grim prospects here in Metro Atlanta. Got the axe two days before Thanksgiving, sure hope spring brings some relief, but I’m not holding my breath. Joe Wilson is right on so many counts.
Maybe I’ll head for Mexico, maybe cut some lawns, dunno…mighty worried
I hear you Will. I’ve been ‘underemployed’ for years as a temp and expect things to remain unchanged or worse under this President and Congress.
I got chopped last June. Can’t even get a nibble no matter where I apply.
Related to this issue is the fact that the Social Security program is suddenly running a deficit which was not supposed to happen for ten years. The unemployment of older workers has resulted in a surge of “retirements” as people seek benefits. This is coupled with the great decrease in workers to pay into the system with the payroll tax. The government has to make up the difference because of all the money it has borrowed from SS receipts over the years. There is no “trust fund” or drawer of money in Washington — just a stack of IOU’s.
That’s one more reason to not take on a massive new entitlement with the health care bill.
Another reason is the precarious state of Medicare. Last week the Mayo Clinic dropped a large number of Medicare patients from some of its clinics in Arizona because it was losing too much money. The Dems say they are going to cut $500 billion from Medicare to fund Obamacare. This is going to get very ugly.
10%? 11%? Ridiculous.
It’s more like 25 to 35.
Let them come to job fairs, with lines of people to enter stretching like snakes, around the block, then they’ll see.
Tatyana,
The experts say it is in the 17%+ range when you count people who aren’t ‘officially’ looking for work. As we know, most of those people are looking for work, regardless of official status.
The basics of Job Creation are easy and known: Lower Taxes and assorted financial costs of doing business, starting business, running business.
America can make anything we want to. Both National and Local Pols have done everything they can to shut down manufacturing in this great nation for 30 years now. The EPA/Green/OSHA/Liberal-Pol fronts simply won’t allow anything new.
That’s been 30 years now.
We could reverse the trend virtually overnight IF we wanted to.
They will not allow it.
I say we fight the bastards for every inch of American soil with bricks and bats if we have to until we utterly defeat them and send them to prison or exile – at the very least scorn and contempt.
You have another plan?
Hope this is not patronizing but Will, Hong and Lugnut be prepared to severely relocate. I was underemployed for years and then completely out of work in Virginia then finally got a job in a small isolated town out west. The family has to stay in Virginia but we are afloat for the time being. Also consider retraining for something quick and dirty job like security guard. A security guard license (2 days training) is good for getting a “throwaway” job.
Forget the jobs you want; take anything, anywhere.
I have a hunch things are only going to get worse; I’m far from an economist but I suspect the grown-ups don’t want to start investing and expanding while there is a confused adolescent at the helm.
BTW, good luck.
Bob from Virginia,
If we have two days to train for jobs we don’t want, why not two days worth of protests against our malignant political class?
I went to a Tea Party over Ch
…oops.
Over Christmas. It was very small (@300 people). I kept thinking, if there were 300,000 here right now they would more than listen – they’d send the freaking riot squad.
If there were 3m of us, we’d be sending the riot squad to roun d them up and place them in the American Bastille.
We need to gather the 3m and show them who is boss.
They need to open the East coast up for oil and gas exploration. The potential job growth could be phenominal – though not immediate.
One guy I know tried to recruit me to come work on a pipeline in Canada. I think he said he had seven years work lined up. Not sure if that was an extension of Palin’s pipeline or not.
Businesses don’t know what the rules and taxes will be next year. They don’t know what energy taxes will be or EPA regulations. They don’t know what corporate or personal taxes will be. They don’t know what kind of health care costs they will get stuck with. They don’t know if card check will pass.
Obama has shut down the business community with his effort to transform America. They are hunkered down trying to cut expenses and reduce debt. It’s a terrible climate for real growth, and Barry’s ideology won’t allow him to make the right moves. All he knows is pork and redistribution. His one trillion dollar porkulous package is a failure and we are left with the bill.
The electorate is getting what they voted for, good and hard.
Businesses don’t know what the rules and taxes will be next year. They don’t know what energy taxes will be or EPA regulations. They don’t know what corporate or personal taxes will be. They don’t know what kind of health care costs they will get stuck with. They don’t know if card check will pass.
Obama has shut down the business community with his effort to transform America. They are hunkered down trying to cut expenses and reduce debt. It’s a terrible climate for real growth, and Barry’s ideology won’t allow him to make the right moves. All he knows is pork and redistribution. His one trillion dollar porkulus package is a failure and we are left with the bill.
The electorate is getting what they voted for, good and hard.
Mr. Frank,
You are so correct. I run a little shop in CA of all places. Rather than actually hire people right out of interviews I’ve been forced to really “try out” prospects on a temporary basis for fear that they might not work out and I’ll get killed on the unemployment insurance. I’m also afraid of the health insurance mandates and additional taxes.
The California Air Resource Board tried their best to put us and our colleagues completely out of business two years ago but we were able to avert that disaster. Our CA State Fund Worker’s Comp insurance went from $13 per $100 in labor to $20 this year. Again, we were lucky to (for the first time in five years) find a private insurer that kept it at the former rate.
I wish we could relocate but ours is a service business with territories and we’re stuck here. Thankfully, knock on wood, we are managing to scrape by. But, like others, and other business owners I am nervous. All of this is so unnecessary. If only adults were running this country.
Why didn’t these fools grow out of their childish beliefs like I did? Probably because they were allowed to stay in academia and were never forced to actually earn their livings. What a shame for all of us.
I didn’t follow Fistgate too closely but I did read that the guy in question was making over $250k a year or something heading up (no pun intended) his right’s group. A “non profit.”
Imagine all of these people making tons of money in “non-profits” that exist in order to kill businesses. Not the type of group the Fistgate guy was running but all of the Greenpeaces, WWF, Sierra Clubs and the like. That’s a lot of money to protect. What would these people do if there were no Mann Made Global Warming?
The Western world is upside down.
I’m with ya, Mike.
Until the bricks start flying, the only thing employers and the rest us us can do is hunker down and save, save, save.
When and if the storm comes, I hope the Smart People in DC and the state capitals who’ve done this to us end up under guard in Gitmo.
I’ve been reading the Market Ticker, and just waiting for the other shoe to drop. I hate to say it, but we ain’t seen nothing yet.
I’m still employed, but am hunkered down and have been stockpiling everything I can think of for the past year. Because of that, I’ve actually been spending a lot of money but that is ending as I’ve more or less got everything I need. I had some doors and windows replaced over the summer with an eye towards improving the security of my house. (They really did need replacing, and will also save on energy costs, but security was my primary motivation.)
Whenever Communists take over a country, they always target the middle class for destruction. They cannot tolerate anyone who is independent and self-reliant. Those people must be crushed.
Mike Mc, I’m surprised to see your reply to my short observational comment.
No, I have no plan, and I’m not going to throw bricks – I throw like a girl – but the last year was the worse for me in all the time I’ve lived in US.
When I read news like the article quoted in the post, or threads like this one and contemplate possibility of yet another year like past one -only worse, without unemployment insurance – I feel depressed.
Then I see documents like this (just take a look at table 1) – and I feel bittter.
Or the documents like this, where a job of philosopher (obviously in academia; I don’t think they meant Diogenes in his tub) is 11th in rating, while architect – 86th -and I wonder, where did they put a job of community organizer, with its maximum pay equal to President’s salary?
I feel desperate.
Jobs. Oh, now, NeoNeo, The Bamma is gonna invent some porkulous GREEN Jobs ! Anybody happen to know what a f***ing GREEN Job is ?
How about we push oil exploration, drilling and refining, your Freaking Majesty ? How about we build a whole new generation of Nuke Power Plants, Mister Messiah ? Those would make a whole lotta jobs. Duuhhhhhhh. But, real jobs, employment and a refurbished, restrengthened Economy ain’t what you Alinskyite-NeoTrotskyists are after, IS IT, ‘Yo?
Thanks for the response Bob, et al.
Folks talk about the economy rebounding, I see nothing like that happening anywhere around here. Obama’s talk about jobs (whatever the hell that means) I doubt includes my demographic (over fifty, white, male). I think he and his administration have provided ample proof already as to just how they feel about “us”. No surprise, no surprise at all. At this point, my wife continues to retain her job, but that could change at a moments notice. Unfortunately, as long as this crew or anything like it are in office, nothing is going to happen to revive the economy and those not in the right “category” or connected to some entitlement program are going to continue to suffer. I’m not ready to throw bricks, because unlike the trust-fund Sandinistas and the Acorn people, jail will be mighty uncomfortable for a guy like me. I am however, committed to “Change” and will work for and with those in the political spectrum that are similarly minded.