Obama defends Iran’s right to peaceful nuclear energy
Obama defends Iran’s right to peaceful nuclear energy.
Wish he would do the same for ours.
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Obama defends Iran’s right to peaceful nuclear energy.
Wish he would do the same for ours.
You were reading my thoughts!
we dont have enough oil production to be allowed to build nuclear plants…
You know the interesting thing about this is that no one, no one hates Obama more than the islamofascist. He is driving a wedge between the extremist and the moderates who have had enough of their mass murders and bombings. Ahmadinejad says the US is deeply hared in he region — deeply hated by the extremist yes. Obama’s problem is I don’t think he’s making enough of a distinction between our common ground with moderate Islam and the utter incompatibility with radical Islam. What happens next is in the hands of the moderates — will they give into extremism or side with the West. Extremism can be beaten back, but we know the warrant for it to resurrect itself is just a book away for succeeding generations. The wheels of the Enlightenment grind slow, for these wheels to stop would be a dark age with a new twist — one of apocalyptic weapons — which again the warrant and use of which is just one book away, a plagiarized and almost identical book for each major civilization.
– he is powerless to do anything about their nuclear arms aspirations
goesh…
is true…. my thinking is if he says enough things in enough places one of them is bound to be right and his loyal followers will think he is a genus.
Genus: a man over his head who’s delusions of adequacy …
Falling is to impact as socialism is to communism.
they are the only people who could jump off a roof and think that the time between that and impact is freedom from oppression from gravity.
they think that they can hover in an indeterminate state and avoid the consequences.
40 years plus of freefall…
reality is now rushing up to give us the grade on out theoretical papers.
oh oh… that was short… and concentrated..
Obama’s problem is I don’t think he’s making enough of a distinction between our common ground with moderate Islam and the utter incompatibility with radical Islam.
Nyomythus again with the trenchant observation.
I think you are right and that 0bama f’ed it up.
My gosh, even the lefty “Slate” thinks he f’ed it up:
http://www.slate.com/id/2219706/
You know the interesting thing about this is that no one, no one hates Obama more than the islamofascist.
nyomythus — I would be surprised if you could provide substantive support — quotes, polls, facts — for this claim. I’ve seen nothing in print that bears such hatred out.
He is driving a wedge between the extremist and the moderates who have had enough of their mass murders and bombings.
Again, support? IMO it’s more likely that Obama’s easing of pressure against extremist leaders like Ahmadinejad leaves Muslim reformers out in the cold and so-called moderate Muslims with no reason to break from the extremists.
A person who has made a huge difference in this area, though he receives little credit for it, was George W. Bush. See Engram’s excerpt of Pew Poll showing dramatic declines of Muslim approval for Bin Laden from 2003 to 2007 when Bush was waging the Iraq War.
On point, however, I would say that leading a full-court press into nuclear energy is the single most valuable and far-reaching agenda the American president could pursue right now.
Naturally, Obama will not.
Oh my…. In fact, Obama is empowering the radicals!:
http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/06/brotherhood_invited_to_obama_speech_by_us.php
The Islamic Brother-f’in-hood!
This isn’t happening. This has just gotta be a bad dream. Please, God lemme wake up and find this is just a bad dream.
nyomythus Says:
“You know the interesting thing about this is that no one, no one hates Obama more than the islamofascist.”
IF it works (the blaming the pre Obama US / Bush for everything) then ‘great’ (I’ll grin a bear it). Otherwise he’s just an as* doing his usual lame apology routine.
Some friendly critics have already said he is pulling a bone head move by appealing to Islam (vs. addressing nationalities… which in Western development were a step in the right direction… coming after clan, tribe, church, sect)… So we will see.
Gray — Yep.
Nyomythus is working from a conceptual model of Islam, Muslim nations, and Muslims as being largely equivalent to Christianity, the Western world, and Christians/Jews.
This model makes it easy to feel like one can understand the current problems in the Middle East and extrapolate how to solve them. Unfortunately, there is a bad catch: this model is a fantasy.
The only real solution is to study Islam, read the Qur’an, read the history, study the different groups and peoples within Islam, the various Muslim countries, and examine current events closely, then you start to develop some feel for it, but it’s still not simple except that the situation is more intractable than you expected.
But that takes work and reflection. Worse yet, it tends to lead to uncomfortable conclusions.
… But that takes work and reflection. Worse yet, it tends to lead to uncomfortable conclusions. …
Who has the time?
The Gordian knot comes to mind …
National Socialism is illegal in Germany …
National Socialism is illegal in Germany …
so what? they accept it by other names. and other symbols, but same ends. stalin and hitler were much the same (both far left), so outlawing one and not the other is like outlawing mice, but allowing Mus musculus…
National Socialism is illegal in Germany …
so what?
Why isn’t Islam illegal exactly?
Yes,
Why is it o.k. for Iran to have nuclear power plants but we can’t build any new ones? What’s with that?
I think he really does want to do in his own country. Ooops…. this may not be his country, since he won’t release his records.
Could someone offer me a plausible explanation as to why so many people from our elite institutions (and not so elite) will not read the Qur’an, the ahadith, and the sira before they tell us what is to be done in that part of the world?
“Nyomythus” is using a template and method which is actually far more prevalent than mine, and this is why I am most pessimistic about this country.
Islam is not a religion in the same way that Judaism, Christianity, and Buddhism are. It is far more a political ideology and a criminal cult than anything else. But you cannot fathom what I just said without first doing the long and tedious work of reading from the sources.
Below is a link to an interview today over at frontpagemag.com. I’ve read some of his stuff over at Jihadwatch.org sometimes. This Coptic priest, in some of his actual presentations, is incredibly funny without being disrespectful. He only uses the Islamic texts themselves and keeps any editorializing to a minimum. And it works. In fact, it would appear that many of his Muslim listeners are eventually more open-minded than people like Nyomythus are.
Fr. Zakaria Botros is a very interesting guy:
http://frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=35073
And like Father Botros, I too do not hate Muslims. I may hate Islam, but not Muslims as individuals. And the only ones I hate are the ones trying to kill us.
My hint to Nyomythus and those inclined to the “Obama can drive a wedge between moderate Muslims and radical Muslims!” notion: consider Obama handling a rich, vast, and powerful Ku Klux Klan by appealing to moderate Klansmen and Klanswomen.
I grew up in the South and I knew people in the KKK — moderates as a matter of fact. They didn’t really hate blacks and they wanted quiet lives, but they were still part of supremacist ideology and they didn’t see anything wrong with that.
Islam is not a religion in the same way that Judaism, Christianity, and Buddhism are. It is far more a political ideology and a criminal cult than anything else. But you cannot fathom what I just said without first doing the long and tedious work of reading from the sources.
Fred’s got it right. Worse yet, you can’t even say what he just said without being rejected post haste as a bigot of the worst order.
Meanwhile, the intrinsic bigotry and supremacism of Islam remains concealed.
Peaceful nuclear energy? If Iran were more peaceful Obama would not support this.
But he has affection for Iran, neo.
Just think of it as affirmative action on nations scale.
So how long till someone shows up on the scene claiming to be “al-Mahdi”? After all, this is one reason some in Iran want nukes are for- create chaos, bring “al-Mahdi’ on to the scene….
oops, drop the “are”
jon baker,
I don’t even think Obonga knows what the Mahdi is. Obonga knows very little of the full Qur’an, ahadith, or sira. He’s as ignorant of Islamic theology as he is of Christian theology.
He’s a fool, and everybody knows it.
Obama is no fool, he’s the POTUS, he’s laughing all the way to the bank. He has obviously been well drilled in his muslim inculcation, which will be that consumate traitor’s ultimate fatal flaw, if only, yet most importantly, in the history books….
Claim:
no one hates Obama more than the islamofascist.
Counter-claim:
I’ve seen nothing in print that bears such hatred out.
It depends on how the islamofascist views Obama. If he’s viewed as just another Christian, then he’s merely an infidel, one of billions.
If they view Barak Hussien Obama as an apostate from Islam, then he’s an affront to Allah and one of thousands.
If they view Barak Hussien Obama as an apostate from Islam, then he’s an affront to Allah and one of thousands.
I’ve seen nothing in print that bears such hatred out.
There is a real world out there and real Muslims say real things of which a fair amount is available even to us infidels via the news and Google.
“Obama defends Iran’s right to peaceful nuclear energy. Wish he would do the same for ours.”
Obama: “I won.”
As simple and vacuous as that.
God bless obama and palestine