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Neo-neocon’s handy guide to northern New Englanders — 20 Comments

  1. Those who disagreed about one thing or another may have missed my caveat in the intro: I’m not talking about Massachusetts. This is just about northern New England, particularly New Hampshire and Maine (hmmm, maybe I should change the title to reflect that). Massachusetts (and particularly Boston, but all of Massachusetts) is a totally different kettle of fish, resembling Connecticut more than it resembles its neighbors to the north.

  2. Ginger ice cream is the best! Peaceful Meadows used to have that as flavor of the month each June, but I am not sure they ever make it anymore.

  3. Y’all, when ah go tuh Noo Englund, them folks alwayz say ah got en axcint, ah say, nosuh, yew got th’ axcint. ah still am knot tew shure whut them yankees are sayin’, though..

    They shure don wave lahk ah dew, but then, they hev en axcint, yew kno…

    Bah th’ way, them folks think salt ‘n’ peppah ar spices. Whut kin they be a’ thinkin’? They dew hev sum fahn Ice Cream, tho…

  4. Do you think Fact C is related to the elitist strain that runs through what is passing for libralism these days?

    New England’s been like that forever, back to when this area was conservative.

  5. (I love your blog. I discovered it only a week or so ago, but everything I’ve read so far is very good. Thank you.)

    Fact A: New Englanders don’t use umbrellas.
    Yes, well, I own an umbrella. At least I used to. It’s around here somewhere. I can’t use it because when it really rains the wind is about 40 miles an hour, and the umbrella would never survive.

    Fact B: New Englanders don’t use garages.
    Oh, yeah.

    Fact C: If you weren’t born here, forget about it.
    Yes, I’ve lived in NH for about 17 years, and I’m still “the new guy”. I’m from the South, but my Mom’s family is from Minnesota. When people talk about last year’s winter being tough, I just laugh.

    Fact D: Women mow the lawns.
    Not all of them, of course, but a lot of them do. And it is striking to see. I think that New England girls, like MN girls, are pretty tough. When the men are away, they have to plow the driveway, rake the roof, and hack the ice dams. Summer-time yard work is nothing.

    (One of my first memories after moving up here was driving by a little girl waiting for the school bus. It was probably 10-15 degrees with a pretty good breeze blowing. She was dressed in a short skirt and a little jacket, leaning against a snow bank. Only the strong survive.)

    Fact E: New Englanders love ice cream.
    Big time. I personally don’t eat much ice cream, but then again I’m not a native. With some, it’s almost an obsession.

  6. My experience with New Englanders is limited to expats who have migrated to the sunbelt, and I’m happy to report that anyone can become a Texan, if they have the right attitude and the gumption for it. That’s why George HW Bush will never be a Texan, but “W” is as Texan as it gets.

    Do you think Fact C is related to the elitist strain that runs through what is passing for libralism these days?

    A lot of it, from their position on school vouchers to smart growth policies, which are really no growth, seem steeped in an us vs. them mentality that is focused on preseving the status quo for the benefit those who’ve already got their’s and keeping both the less fortunate and the new money at arms length.

  7. Vermount is no longer a constituent member, and is today some freak rump outpost of…the lost tribes of Nyawk.

    lmao

  8. I don’t know, neo.

    You’re on to a few things, a recalibration required for others.

    I am a born and contented Swamp Yankee from Massachusetts, by way of Maritime expats from the one time Great White North.

    I am not a liberal (was one briefly, before muggings, divorce, and giving up medicinal jane), and so detest the politics of this Staat, but I can attest that there is much of Old New England still extant heeyah, and even in gorgeous and corrupt Little Rhody.

    Spend some Summer time among the natives along Duxbury Beach, or fishing off Cohasset, or sun-shiney drinking in Newport and Jamestown and Middletown, and know that this is our Ancient Home, without parallel or comparison.

    One could be misled, however, when hearing the Rhody accent. It sounds Nyawk, but its speakers are Yanqui, without any doubt.

    Let me re-Staat, I despise the politics, but I would choose no other place to live.

    You are correct about Connecticut, however. It is an extended suburb of New York.

    I am a male and have always mowed the lawn. Until the divorce, that is. Then I mowed two lawns.

    Umbrellas? I use them, when not already attired in a canvas baseball cap.

    Garage? Wish I had one, to put my stuff.

    Ice Cream? Most certainly. But not commie Nyawk flatlandah Ben and Jerry stuff, but Far-Far’s, and Scoops, and once upon a time, Bliss Brothers and Newport Creamery.

    Northern New England?

    A strange and magical place, where many a heavenly Summer week passed. Vermount is no longer a constituent member, and is today some freak rump outpost of atheist Quebec and the lost tribes of Nyawk.

    Way Down East?

    Won’t tell ya bout it, cuz ya might go theyya.

  9. I need some tech help–I changed the comments settings so that the date showed for each comment as well as the time, but it only lasted for a little while. Now it’s back to the way it used to be–just the time shows. I changed it several times, and each time, after a short while, the settings spontaneously changed back so that only the time shows. Does anyone have any idea how to make the new settings stay?

  10. I’d say right on all counts from a born and raised New Englander. Born in Northern MA, but now a tax refugee in NH.

    Growing up we had 2 neighbors with garages. Neither EVER put their car in them.

    Umbrellas – ‘strue. But I’m not quite sure why. Never thought about it.

    Ice Cream. Definitely. It’s a staple. Got to have bread, milk, toilet paper and ice cream on hand at all times.

    Lawns? I’m a female and I mow our lawn maybe every third or fourth time, I’d say. This may be a recent thing. Me and my sisters never did growing up. But then, we didn’t have a self propelled mower then.

    Locals – I have to shamefully agree. It’s not that we don’t love outsiders, it’s just that, well – how can people possibly understand if they were born here?

  11. For a “not born here”, you did “wickehd guhd” (incidentally I don’t have the accent) You hit 4 of 5!

  12. As a side note, my parents grew up in Springfield (near Connecticut yes, but not of the Boston mindset) and didn’t move east until 1980, so I don’t think I represent your typical metro Bostonian.

  13. Those who disagreed about one thing or another may have missed my caveat in the intro: I’m not talking about Massachusetts.

    I didn’t miss it. The agreements merely served to reinforce your points.

  14. Changed the title to include “northern.”

    I also just noticed that it’s possible to change the comments settings so that comments can show not just the hour of posting, but the date as well. I’m definitely not quick on the draw with the technical end of things here, but slowly, slowly…done!

  15. Fact D: Women mow the lawns.

    Disagree. I grew up in Massachusetts and never saw ‘girls’ mowing the lawn. Later I moved to Utah and one of the first things I noticed were the woman and teenaged girls mowing. So Utah is the place to be if you are a guy and don’t like to mow.

    That said, maybe Massachusetts has changed, maybe Romney has spread the Utah effect, maybe Massachusetts isn’t part of New England. Whatever. I stand by my facts.

  16. Shortly after I moved to Los Angeles I was walking across the campus with a co-worker. Some drizzle was coming down, so he popped open his umbrella and held it high.

    Him: “Don’t you use an umbrella?”
    Me: “Only when it’s raining.”
    Him: “What do you call this?”
    Me: “Humidity.”

  17. Boston suburb resident and one man sample:

    Fact A: New Englanders don’t use umbrellas.

    Haven’t owned one in a couple of years, but then again it’s two steps from front door to car and I park at work in a covered parking garage with a skywalk to my office.

    Fact B: New Englanders don’t use garages.

    Don’t have one now but my parents used their garage for cars, though not the entire time I was growing up. Also, we owned a larger garage than the average for New England.

    Fact C: If you weren’t born here, forget about it.

    Unfortunately true among the local yokels but there has been a decent influx of “outsiders” over the last 10-12 years, changing the landscape a bit.

    Fact D: Women mow the lawns.

    My mother never mowed the lawn once growing up. Either N.E. fathers are sissies or their wives are hardyfolk. Maybe neither (it’s moving a self-propelled machine over flat ground, after all)

    Fact E: New Englanders love ice cream.

    So true. Heck my family used to make Sunday plans to walk downtown to Baskin Robbins during the summer. Even now I’m never without a gallon in the freezer.

  18. Re the umbrella thing, I’m a New Englander with roots back to 1631, now resident in Western Australia. We get heavy winter rain here, (when we’re lucky) and I own two umbrellas, but I could probably count on the fingers of two hands the number of times I’ve had the bumbershoots up in the past 30 years. It must be genetic. Re the ‘you’re still a stranger’ thing, my husband was back in NE Mass for a visit a few years ago, around about the time of our Silver Wedding Anniversary, and reports overhearing in the general store one old patriarch saying to another “Thet’s the boy thet married the Waters (pronounced ‘Wattuhs’) gel”. My husband is, of course a foreigner, coming as he does from a town at least six miles from that store.

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