[NOTE: I feel like I might be belaboring this Cosby situation, since I already wrote a post describing some of the miscarriages of justice I noticed about the Cosby trial. But I continue to learn new things about that trial that bother me, and so I’ve written this 2-parter to describe two of them. Whether Cosby is guilty or innocent (and on the whole I think he’s probably guilty), I don’t think he got a fair trial, and I find that very disturbing.]
This is interesting:
[Cosby juror] Harrison Snyder said in an interview aired Monday on ABC’s Good Morning America that Cosby’s deposition ”” in which he admitted giving women drugs to have sex with them ”” was the evidence that made him believe Cosby was guilty [of assaulting Constand]…
The 22-year-old said it “wasn’t an open-and-shut case” but that he had no doubt the jury made the right decision in convicting Cosby Thursday on three counts of aggravated indecent assault.
Why was that 2005 deposition allowed into evidence in the first place in the criminal trial? This article from a month ago indicates the judge originally seemed to be leaning against it. But the testimony was allowed, and in the articles I’ve found about that decision (for example, this one) I haven’t seen much explanation of the judge’s reasoning behind it.
What was the 2005 deposition about? Remember as you read this that the recent criminal trial and the 2005 civil trial were both about an act alleged to have occurred in 2004, although the questions in the deposition and the act or acts admitted to therein occurred during the 1970s [emphasis mine]:
Cosby apparently obtained quaaludes [legally] through a prescription, the AP reported.
In the deposition, which stemmed from a sexual abuse case against Cosby filed by a former Temple University employee [Constand], Cosby was asked by a lawyer, “When you got the quaaludes [in the 1970s], was it in your mind that you were going to use these quaaludes for young women that you wanted to have sex with?” Cosby answered, “Yes.”…
“There is no acknowledgement that he gave the quaalude to someone underage, or to a woman who wasn’t consenting,” Brafman told TIME. “Quaalude was the love drug of choice in those years. Doctors were lawfully prescribing it in those years.”…
Quaaludes, the brand name for methaqualone, were a popular sleeping pill in the 1960s and were used in the 1970s and ’80s as a club drug, particularly to help people come off of a cocaine high…In 1984 President Ronald Reagan signed a law banning the production of the drug, making it illegal. Cosby’s admission concerns a period during the 1970s, when quaaludes would have been legal with a prescription.
Philip Jenkins, a professor of history at Baylor University and the author of Decade of Nightmares: The End of the Sixties and the Making of Eighties America, who spoke generally about the use of quaaludes in the ’70s and not specifically about how Bill Cosby may have used them, said that drug was indeed believed to be an aphrodisiac that consenting adults could use to have sex. “Quaaludes were something that was meant to send you to sleep,” Jenkins told TIME. “But it was also supposed to be the world’s greatest aphrodisiac. It was meant to knock you out, but also give you an overpowering sense of sexual urge.”
Cosby has said that the pills he gave Constand were Benadryl, by the way, and Constand has claimed the pills were blue in color. But quaaludes apparently never came in blue.
A bit more detail about Cosby’s actual testimony in the 2005 deposition can be found here:
In the civil deposition, Cosby acknowledged obtaining seven different prescriptions for Quaaludes during the 1970s, and said he’d used them with a woman named Theresa at the Las Vegas Hilton sometime during that decade.
“Did you ever give the Quaaludes to any other female but Theresa?” Constand attorney Dolores Troiani asked him during the 2005 deposition.
“Yes,” he replied.
“Did you ever give any of those young women Quaaludes without their knowledge?” Troiani asked.
“I misunderstood. Woman, not women. Just her,” he responded.
So, he admitted to using quaaludes with one woman and contemplating their use with others in the 70s. He never answered the question about consent because his lawyer objected to the question and the objection was apparently sustained. Here is Therese’s (that’s the proper spelling) description of what happened [emphasis mine]:
Therese Serignese, now 57, was 19 (and known by her maiden name, Therese Picking) and standing with her younger brother and sister outside of a gift shop of the Las Vegas Hilton in 1976 when, she says, a man approached her from behind, slowly slipped his left arm around her shoulder, and said in a teasingly playful voice, “Will you marry me?”
She says she turned to face Cosby, the hotel’s headline act.
He offered her ”“ and only her ”“ a free ticket to his show, she says. And when she was escorted backstage afterward to the green room, she remembers feeling that she was meant to stay as the 10 or so other people there made their goodbyes. Alone with the entertainer, she claims he approached her on a couch, held out his hand, “and he had two pills there, and a glass of water, and he told me to take them,” she tells PEOPLE.
The pills, she says, were Quaaludes. “He identified what they were; that’s how I knew,” she says. “At that point I didn’t know what to do, so I just obeyed. I just did it.”
She then remembers having intercourse without having given consent.
If Therese Serignese is telling the truth (and let’s say she is) there is no excuse for Cosby’s behavior. He was 42 and she 19, and he was predatory and exploitative of her youth and inexperience. Was it rape? I would say there’s a strong case for it.
But as far as her consent to just the pill-taking goes (not the sex, but the pill-taking), she did give consent, even by her own admission. I wonder—I really wonder—whether that detail was ever introduced into the recent criminal trial.
The fact that a juror such as Snyder was influenced to believe Cosby was guilty by Cosby’s admissions in that deposition shows why that testimony should most likely have been excluded, in my opinion. I’ve seen no indication that the deposition dealt with the question of consent to the pills, which was very important. The other party in that incident with the admitted use of quaaludes (Ms. Serignese) was apparently not questioned during the criminal trial on that issue (or on any other issue). I don’t know how much testimony was allowed in the criminal trial about the fact that quaaludes were commonly used as party drugs back in the 1970s, but it seems to me that that should make their use back then irrelevant to an incident alleged to have occurred around thirty years later. A juror such as Snyder, who is 22 years old, would have had no context in which to place the 1970s acts described in the deposition, and I wonder whether he was given any such context.
I don’t know if this entire situation troubles you, but it troubles me. And—as I indicated in my previous post—this sort of thing disturbs me whether or not Bill Cosby is guilty. I happen to think that the evidence on the whole indicates that he is guilty, but from what I know so far (without having been on the jury and heard all the evidence, of course) I would say his guilt has not been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. And yet he was convicted, apparently because of evidence like that deposition, which seems to have made the difference for at least one juror.
[Part II is coming soon. It concerns an agreement that may or may not have been made with Cosby in that civil trial, a deal that would have barred his deposition from being used in a criminal trial.]