From an Althouse thread this morning from David Begley:
A slight aside. There’s a new biography on Jerry Ford; the man who ended our long national nightmare. We need Ron or Vivek to win so that our long national nightmare will finally be over. The Dems can’t hate on those two like they can on Trump. And we can’t have more Biden.
As a film nut, I sometimes go through a whole series of films by one director or one actor.
I few years ago I watched a group of films featuring Anne Bancroft. She is best known for her role in The Graduate, but to me The Miracle Worker (1962) is her tour de force. She plays Annie Sullivan with a young Patti Duke playing Helen Keller.
Checking out the older films with Bancroft I saw Don’t Bother To Knock and The Girl In Black Stockings. In those films she is something of a “pretty face” or ingenue actress. In her bio she says that she almost quit acting at that point in her career because she couldn’t imagine going on another ten years playing roles like “daughter of gorilla at large” or some such role.
How did she move from those roles to The Miracle Worker? She went to Broadway where that show began, and her director taught her some of her best acting skills. He then later directed her in the film version. It is still a great movie.
How on earth did she end up married to Mel Brooks? Quote: “When he comes home at night and I hear his key in the lock, I say to myself, ‘Oh good! The party’s about to begin’.”
Interestingly enough, I saw that comment by Dave Begley at Althouse’s prior to reading the comment in which you draw attention to it, and I was quite puzzled by what Begley said and already was mulling over what he might have meant. When he writes, “The Dems can’t hate on those two like they can on Trump,” what does that even mean? Of course they can; the only question is whether they will and whether, if they do, it will be as effective as the hate they’ve stirred up against Trump. But Begley doesn’t say they won’t do it; just that they can’t, which makes no sense.
Begley – who is a regular reader and commenter here also, although here he goes by the username “Cornhead” – must be well aware of the fact that the Democrats can attempt to “hate on those two.” Nothing is preventing them. So what does he mean? If he appears on this thread, perhaps he can explain. But till then, I’d say the only interpretation of what he wrote that makes any sense is that he means that whatever efforts the Democrats mount towards “hating on those two” can’t be as successful as their hate campaign has been against Trump has been.
I also think it’s interesting that you have quoted a comment from today, when our discussion on this topic was back on April 29. I suggested back then that you show me comments of the type you were describing, and you didn’t, although you had said that you saw ten of them every day. Obviously, you couldn’t have been referring to today’s comment by Begley, unless you have a time-travel machine. Perhaps you can come up with older ones that occurred on or prior to April 29 – which should be easy for you, since you say they are ubiquitous. But so far you have not.
By the way, I assume there have been such comments made somewhere, by someone. But they probably are posted – as I noted before – at places such as National Review or The Bulwark, filled with NeverTrumpers. I don’t read those sites ordinarily. And I have not seen such comments on the sites I do read. If Begley’s is one of them – and as I said, I’m not sure what he’s actually saying there – it would be the first.
Not that I read Althouse every day nor could I possibly have time to read every comment there, but I certainly do read it at times and I certainly do read plenty of the comments there.
My mother taught deaf children to speak and do lip reading in the 1960’s and later. She mentioned she was present at a talk by Helen Keller.
Thanks neo.
My parents were quite open minded, so I saw and read a fair amount of age inappropriate things when I was younger. I saw The Graduate at age 13, I believe, and I found Mrs. Robinson to be a liii-ttle bit scary.
I haven’t seen the film in a very long time, though I’m pretty sure I have seen it as an adult. So it’s on my list to see again. The film is so highly stylized in a way that I suspect doesn’t age very well, but it’ll be worth it to see Bancroft and get another take on the character. I’m quite sure she’s a tragic figure.
A couple more anecdotes:
Said that for many years after doing The Graduate (1967), young men would tell her that she was the first woman they had sexual fantasies about.
Hmmm. I don’t see it, but again I was the wrong age.
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When [Mel Brooks] told his Jewish mother he was marrying an Italian girl, she said: “Bring her over. I’ll be in the kitchen – with my head in the oven”.
Has anyone else had trouble with the comment software? It just disappeared a comment I posted a few seconds ago. Nothing I said was NSFW or particularly controversial.
Not lately PA Cat. I always have trouble with website caching. I often get pages that pop up that are a few revisions old. Keep refreshing the page to make sure it is current.
I once had trouble using symbols for “dollars per share.” It killed that.
PA Cat:
There seems to be a lag or “dead time” in posting comments at least from my non-Apple smart phone.
Every Republican is Hitler for the 15 weeks before the election… even the pets like John McCain.
As for Republicans who believe that someone other than Trump “can’t” be treated by the Dems the same way they treat Trump, I always understood those comments to mean that the treatment won’t be effective with voters*, and people saying things like that happens daily-ish here on this blog.
*I happen to think that what voters believe is not relevant to the 2024 Presidential election, so I’m not inclined to try to figure out if it’s really true that the Dems can’t make scurrilous attacks stick as well to people besides Trump, but for a counter-example I’d use Brett Kavanaugh and Clarence Thomas, both of whom are frequently treated by mainstream media opinion writers as having done what they were accused of and got away with it.
In my experience the majority of people who comment on blogs read just enough to get a sense for what “side” somebody is on, and often don’t read carefully enough to understand what a particular statement actually says.
And I think that’s the disconnect between Yancey and neo: he’s interpreting comments about Trump’s susceptibility to attack as being “anti-Trump”, and anyone who is anti-Trump and talking about the issue, he assumes they all mean the same thing, the most extreme version. Which is why he is genuinely surprised that she says she rarely sees such comments.
And you can indeed find them, such as David Begley’s, who was probably just being imprecise. In lapidary inscriptions and blog comments a man is not upon oath.
TommyJay and om–
Thanks, guys. I don’t post from a smartphone, but it’s possible that browser caching has something to do with the evaporation of the original comment . . . Anyhoo, that comment was a note to physicsguy that he can stop monitoring COVID stats because 1) The WHO declared today that the emergency is OVAH! and 2) Rochelle Walensky has resigned as director of the CDC, effective June 30. From Ars Technica: “Walensky took on the directorship of the CDC at a very challenging time. The agency was dealing with a number of self-inflicted wounds, such as the failure of its initial tests for SARS-CoV-2 and confused advice on the value of masks. . . . By the start of the Biden administration, the once-flagship public health organization had lost a lot of its credibility and suffered from severe morale problems. . . . But the stumbles didn’t stop during her tenure at the CDC. The agency overruled its own experts on the use of boosters by high-risk individuals and rapidly issued and reversed advice on masks for people who have been vaccinated.”
My comment on the AT article is that it omitted Walensky’s knuckling under to Randi Weingarten about keeping public schools closed. If memory serves, Walensky at one point issued “guidance” about a possible return to in-person schooling, at which point Weingarten bullied her into continuing school closures. It’s noteworthy that when Weingarten testified recently before Congress about school closure policies during the pandemic, she admitted that she has Walensky’s direct number: “Asked by Rep. Debbie Lesko (R-Ariz.) whether she had Walensky’s direct number, Weingarten admitted: ‘Yes, I have Director Walensky’s direct number.'”
Thank you for posting the videos with Helen Keller.
The Library of America will be publishing in 2024 a collection of what Helen Keller wrote. We have donated to help get it prepared.
An interview of Ron DeSantis on the Hugh Hewitt show. I really enjoy learning how he’s taking it to the left. A small example: the teachers unions dues are no longer deducted from their paycheck. If they want to pay dues, they have to write a check to the union. LOL To paraphrase what Lincoln said about Grant after Shiloh when the army brass was trying to get him fired. “I cannot spare this man. He fights.”
… few years ago I watched a group of films featuring Anne Bancroft. She is best known for her role in The Graduate,
TommyJay:
I just finished re-watching “The Graduate” last night.
College grad Dustin Hoffman/Benjamin was actually only six years younger than cougar Anne Bancroft/Mrs. Robinson. A testament to the acting on both sides.
I still think it’s a great film, but over time I have tired of its many cringey scenes of social embarrassment.
Nonetheless, Bancroft entirely deserved her Academy Award nomination for Mrs. Robinson. Stellar.
Re: Sixties films
After I watched “The Graduate,” the Amazon algo set me up to watch “Three in the Attic” (1968) which I never saw, because it sounded a bit stupid.
But why not for free with no effort?
Lordy. It starts with Christopher Jones (sixties hunk with short career) and Yvette Mimieux flirting via an argument about Kierkegaard. It’s supposed to go to a racy sex comedy from there.
That was all I needed to know.
Re: Helen Keller
Boy, that second video brought tears to my eyes.
For my astonishment at the accomplishment, certainly, but at the smaller individual level of my learning French — even though I freely acknowledge that I am orders of magnitude better off than Helen Keller — I often feel like I am wandering in a fog, banging rocks together and hoping for the best.
I’m now working my way through a marvelously earnest YouTube series on French pronunciation. Here’s one just on the French R.
From an Althouse thread this morning from David Begley:
As a film nut, I sometimes go through a whole series of films by one director or one actor.
I few years ago I watched a group of films featuring Anne Bancroft. She is best known for her role in The Graduate, but to me The Miracle Worker (1962) is her tour de force. She plays Annie Sullivan with a young Patti Duke playing Helen Keller.
Checking out the older films with Bancroft I saw Don’t Bother To Knock and The Girl In Black Stockings. In those films she is something of a “pretty face” or ingenue actress. In her bio she says that she almost quit acting at that point in her career because she couldn’t imagine going on another ten years playing roles like “daughter of gorilla at large” or some such role.
How did she move from those roles to The Miracle Worker? She went to Broadway where that show began, and her director taught her some of her best acting skills. He then later directed her in the film version. It is still a great movie.
How on earth did she end up married to Mel Brooks? Quote: “When he comes home at night and I hear his key in the lock, I say to myself, ‘Oh good! The party’s about to begin’.”
TommyJay:
Please see this post about Anne Bancroft.
Yancey Ward:
Interestingly enough, I saw that comment by Dave Begley at Althouse’s prior to reading the comment in which you draw attention to it, and I was quite puzzled by what Begley said and already was mulling over what he might have meant. When he writes, “The Dems can’t hate on those two like they can on Trump,” what does that even mean? Of course they can; the only question is whether they will and whether, if they do, it will be as effective as the hate they’ve stirred up against Trump. But Begley doesn’t say they won’t do it; just that they can’t, which makes no sense.
Begley – who is a regular reader and commenter here also, although here he goes by the username “Cornhead” – must be well aware of the fact that the Democrats can attempt to “hate on those two.” Nothing is preventing them. So what does he mean? If he appears on this thread, perhaps he can explain. But till then, I’d say the only interpretation of what he wrote that makes any sense is that he means that whatever efforts the Democrats mount towards “hating on those two” can’t be as successful as their hate campaign has been against Trump has been.
I also think it’s interesting that you have quoted a comment from today, when our discussion on this topic was back on April 29. I suggested back then that you show me comments of the type you were describing, and you didn’t, although you had said that you saw ten of them every day. Obviously, you couldn’t have been referring to today’s comment by Begley, unless you have a time-travel machine. Perhaps you can come up with older ones that occurred on or prior to April 29 – which should be easy for you, since you say they are ubiquitous. But so far you have not.
By the way, I assume there have been such comments made somewhere, by someone. But they probably are posted – as I noted before – at places such as National Review or The Bulwark, filled with NeverTrumpers. I don’t read those sites ordinarily. And I have not seen such comments on the sites I do read. If Begley’s is one of them – and as I said, I’m not sure what he’s actually saying there – it would be the first.
Not that I read Althouse every day nor could I possibly have time to read every comment there, but I certainly do read it at times and I certainly do read plenty of the comments there.
My mother taught deaf children to speak and do lip reading in the 1960’s and later. She mentioned she was present at a talk by Helen Keller.
Thanks neo.
My parents were quite open minded, so I saw and read a fair amount of age inappropriate things when I was younger. I saw The Graduate at age 13, I believe, and I found Mrs. Robinson to be a liii-ttle bit scary.
I haven’t seen the film in a very long time, though I’m pretty sure I have seen it as an adult. So it’s on my list to see again. The film is so highly stylized in a way that I suspect doesn’t age very well, but it’ll be worth it to see Bancroft and get another take on the character. I’m quite sure she’s a tragic figure.
A couple more anecdotes:
Said that for many years after doing The Graduate (1967), young men would tell her that she was the first woman they had sexual fantasies about.
Hmmm. I don’t see it, but again I was the wrong age.
______
When [Mel Brooks] told his Jewish mother he was marrying an Italian girl, she said: “Bring her over. I’ll be in the kitchen – with my head in the oven”.
Has anyone else had trouble with the comment software? It just disappeared a comment I posted a few seconds ago. Nothing I said was NSFW or particularly controversial.
Not lately PA Cat. I always have trouble with website caching. I often get pages that pop up that are a few revisions old. Keep refreshing the page to make sure it is current.
I once had trouble using symbols for “dollars per share.” It killed that.
PA Cat:
There seems to be a lag or “dead time” in posting comments at least from my non-Apple smart phone.
Every Republican is Hitler for the 15 weeks before the election… even the pets like John McCain.
As for Republicans who believe that someone other than Trump “can’t” be treated by the Dems the same way they treat Trump, I always understood those comments to mean that the treatment won’t be effective with voters*, and people saying things like that happens daily-ish here on this blog.
*I happen to think that what voters believe is not relevant to the 2024 Presidential election, so I’m not inclined to try to figure out if it’s really true that the Dems can’t make scurrilous attacks stick as well to people besides Trump, but for a counter-example I’d use Brett Kavanaugh and Clarence Thomas, both of whom are frequently treated by mainstream media opinion writers as having done what they were accused of and got away with it.
In my experience the majority of people who comment on blogs read just enough to get a sense for what “side” somebody is on, and often don’t read carefully enough to understand what a particular statement actually says.
And I think that’s the disconnect between Yancey and neo: he’s interpreting comments about Trump’s susceptibility to attack as being “anti-Trump”, and anyone who is anti-Trump and talking about the issue, he assumes they all mean the same thing, the most extreme version. Which is why he is genuinely surprised that she says she rarely sees such comments.
And you can indeed find them, such as David Begley’s, who was probably just being imprecise. In lapidary inscriptions and blog comments a man is not upon oath.
TommyJay and om–
Thanks, guys. I don’t post from a smartphone, but it’s possible that browser caching has something to do with the evaporation of the original comment . . . Anyhoo, that comment was a note to physicsguy that he can stop monitoring COVID stats because 1) The WHO declared today that the emergency is OVAH! and 2) Rochelle Walensky has resigned as director of the CDC, effective June 30. From Ars Technica: “Walensky took on the directorship of the CDC at a very challenging time. The agency was dealing with a number of self-inflicted wounds, such as the failure of its initial tests for SARS-CoV-2 and confused advice on the value of masks. . . . By the start of the Biden administration, the once-flagship public health organization had lost a lot of its credibility and suffered from severe morale problems. . . . But the stumbles didn’t stop during her tenure at the CDC. The agency overruled its own experts on the use of boosters by high-risk individuals and rapidly issued and reversed advice on masks for people who have been vaccinated.”
https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/05/walensky-to-step-down-as-head-of-cdc/
My comment on the AT article is that it omitted Walensky’s knuckling under to Randi Weingarten about keeping public schools closed. If memory serves, Walensky at one point issued “guidance” about a possible return to in-person schooling, at which point Weingarten bullied her into continuing school closures. It’s noteworthy that when Weingarten testified recently before Congress about school closure policies during the pandemic, she admitted that she has Walensky’s direct number: “Asked by Rep. Debbie Lesko (R-Ariz.) whether she had Walensky’s direct number, Weingarten admitted: ‘Yes, I have Director Walensky’s direct number.'”
https://nypost.com/2023/04/26/biden-transition-team-asked-randi-weingartens-advice-on-school-reopening/
My trust in the CDC had been waning long before COVID, but Walensky’s tenure finished it off.
A Trump depo is like no other:
Lawyer: “When you said that Ms. Leeds would not be your ‘first choice,’ you were referring to her physical looks, correct?”
Trump: “Just the overall… You wouldn’t be a choice of mine either.”
on the question of adaptations,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2DramS4Qt4
Thank you for posting the videos with Helen Keller.
The Library of America will be publishing in 2024 a collection of what Helen Keller wrote. We have donated to help get it prepared.
An interview of Ron DeSantis on the Hugh Hewitt show. I really enjoy learning how he’s taking it to the left. A small example: the teachers unions dues are no longer deducted from their paycheck. If they want to pay dues, they have to write a check to the union. LOL To paraphrase what Lincoln said about Grant after Shiloh when the army brass was trying to get him fired. “I cannot spare this man. He fights.”
https://hughhewitt.com/florida-governor-ron-desantis-on-the-sunshine-states-legislative-record-since-his-re-election/
… few years ago I watched a group of films featuring Anne Bancroft. She is best known for her role in The Graduate,
TommyJay:
I just finished re-watching “The Graduate” last night.
College grad Dustin Hoffman/Benjamin was actually only six years younger than cougar Anne Bancroft/Mrs. Robinson. A testament to the acting on both sides.
I still think it’s a great film, but over time I have tired of its many cringey scenes of social embarrassment.
Nonetheless, Bancroft entirely deserved her Academy Award nomination for Mrs. Robinson. Stellar.
Re: Sixties films
After I watched “The Graduate,” the Amazon algo set me up to watch “Three in the Attic” (1968) which I never saw, because it sounded a bit stupid.
But why not for free with no effort?
Lordy. It starts with Christopher Jones (sixties hunk with short career) and Yvette Mimieux flirting via an argument about Kierkegaard. It’s supposed to go to a racy sex comedy from there.
That was all I needed to know.
Re: Helen Keller
Boy, that second video brought tears to my eyes.
For my astonishment at the accomplishment, certainly, but at the smaller individual level of my learning French — even though I freely acknowledge that I am orders of magnitude better off than Helen Keller — I often feel like I am wandering in a fog, banging rocks together and hoping for the best.
I’m now working my way through a marvelously earnest YouTube series on French pronunciation. Here’s one just on the French R.
–“Pronouncing the French / r / with all the vowels”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhyWigqQgTo
She shows you where to touch your throat to feel the French R and to tighten the front of your face at the same time.
Those are the kinds of detail at stake.