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COVID: What the Chinese knew, and when they knew it

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There has been an explosion of stories about the Chinese coverup of COVID-19. Rather than offer my own, I’m just going to link to a few.

I will add, however, that this is mostly old news to those who have been following reporting on the right since the beginning. For example, I remember reading almost from the start that there was a lab near the wet market in Wuhan, and that many people suspected the lab was the actual origin of the virus. I also remember that one of the first news items we got about the awful events occurring in Wuhan was that health workers – for example, some doctors – were frantically trying to get the word out to the world about the dangers the disease represented, and they were silenced and/or “disappeared.”

Here are the links:

What Pompeo said

The dossier.

China in violation of international health regulations.

China hoarded medical supplies.

China’s lie about the virus’ origins.

One of the things that caused me to undergo my political change was my discovery, nearly twenty years ago – and to my great surprise at the time – that news sources on the right were more reliable than news sources on the left. Not completely reliable, for sure. But so much more likely to be correct that the comparison was really almost laughable, except that it was deadly serious.

During the Trump administration, this tendency has gotten even more pronounced. But if people continue to get their news from sources on the left, they will not notice it.

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COVID: What the Chinese knew, and when they knew it — 19 Comments

  1. Despite the laughably stupid leftist trope of Fox News=Faux news, it is indeed undeniably true that although, obviously, not everything on conservative news sites and blogs turns out to be factually correct and not everything on leftist sites and blogs turns out to be false, there exists a rather high probability of a report from a legitimate right-of-center news source or from a knowledgeable conservative blogger being more trustworthy than what is being widely reported from the left.

  2. GREAT point about the disingenuousness of the MSM. Their selective attention is another tip-off of their biased worldview. Could you imagine if Bush did the same kind of spying on the incoming Obama administration that Obama did to Trump? The amount and level of coverage would be like armageddon. But when it’s *against* Trump? Oh well. Or if the FBI treated LeBron James the way it treated Flynn. Whoa nellie.

    On your overall point about China… any moral relativism between the US should be flat-out rejected. Anyone pushing that is being intellectually dishonest.

  3. Recently, there’s been a spate of stories describing Fauci’s instrumental role in approving grants that funded bat virus research in Wuhan. Apparently, the research was too dangerous to do here in the US.

    Meanwhile, Fauci proclaims, to a compliant media, that the virus couldn’t have come from the Wuhan lab. Somehow, I find this more depressing than outrageous. I’m so tired of government failure.

    Are there any respectable conservative anarchists? If so, please contact.

  4. “Anyone pushing that is being intellectually dishonest.”

    correction

    Anyone pushing that is being dishonest.

    nothing intellectual about it…

  6. China still hasn’t identified “patient zero.”

    Rumors identify patient zero as a worker at the virological lab. This could be a case where the lack of evidence is the evidence.

    The Chinese government says that the virus originated in a market that sells bats for dinner. The bat food story projects a disgusting, third-world image of China.

    Maybe the Chinese government peddles the bat food story because it’s both plausible and not as bad as admitting that the virus escaped from a laboratory.

  7. Not to defend Fauci, who apparently approved funding for the Wuhan lab. However, I have seen headlines saying he says it did not come from the lab, “contradicting Pompeo and Trump.” What he actually says, if you read the quote, is that he doesn’t think it was “created” in the lab. Leftist media, for several weeks, have been peddling the line that Sen. Cotton, and now Trump, claim the virus was a bioengineered weapon. That’s not what Cotton, Trump, and Pompeo say. “Escaped from the lab” is not the same as “made” there. Maybe it was bioengineered, but so far no credible scientists are saying so.

    This is typical of leftist and anti-Trump media, and has been for years. They will either invent something he didn’t actually say, or twist something he did say to make it into something else.

  8. “This is typical of leftist and anti-Trump media, and has been for years. They will either invent something he didn’t actually say, or twist something he did say to make it into something else.” – Kate

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/a-rant-against-the-media/

    By DAVID HARSANYI April 27, 2020 4:50 PM

    One can be critical of the Trump presidency and still wrestle with obvious double standards of journalism. Instead, well-read “media critic” newsletters by reporters such as Brian Stelter have become indistinguishable from a Media Matters press release.

    It’s not a mystery why Trump’s fans can so easily dismiss the media.

    Conservative are blackballed. Last year, when CNN hired moderate Republican Sarah Isgur, Jeff Sessions’s former spokeswoman, as political editor at its Washington bureau, there was a backlash from left-wing media types and activists. She was not there long.

    To put this in perspective, the chief national-security correspondent at CNN, Jim Sciutto, is a former member of the Obama administration. ABC’s George Stephanopoulos is not only a former White House communications director for Bill Clinton, but someone who was donating to Hillary’s controversial foundation during the 2016 election even when he was ostensibly an unbiased moderator of that network’s Sunday news show. And to be fair to Stephanopoulos, he’s still less biased than NBC’s Chuck Todd. If you want to know why news consumers have a difficult time making a distinction between reporters and opinion journalists, it’s because most of the time there is no difference.

    This trend is unsurprising when you realize that left-wing news outlets such as Buzzfeed, TPM, and Vox are the ones feeding major networks with their reporters. It’s unsurprising when you realize that media’s favorite “journalism professors” like Jay Rosen are arguing for more bias. These are con artists. Not because they’re partisan activists, but because they pretend not to be.

  9. Here’s an interesting story on how the media can make use of the public’s trust – “pictures don’t lie” – until they do.

    https://libertyunyielding.com/2020/05/04/when-it-comes-to-social-distancing-and-the-dialog-about-coronavirus-the-camera-can-lie/

    The risk of coronavirus infection has made us all more aware of whether we ourselves — and others — are too close to each other.

    As you know, a picture says more than a thousand words. So that is why pictures of assembled Danes have played a part in the media.

    This has caused photographer Ólafur Steinar Gestsson and a colleague to take a trip around Copenhagen to take pictures of people enjoying the good April weather — and although the two photographers pressed the camera button pretty much at the same time, the results were quite different.

    Take a look at the photos in the source post; they are almost as flummoxing as the “blue or white dress” meme.

    https://nyheder.tv2.dk/samfund/2020-04-26-hvor-taet-er-folk-paa-hinanden-disse-billeder-er-taget-samtidig-men-viser-to

  10. From pjmedia:
    “Tedros is really an outstanding person,” Fauci said March 25 at a White House news briefing. “I’ve known him from the time that he was the minister of health in Ethiopia. I mean, obviously, over the years anyone who says that the WHO has not had problems has not been watching the WHO. But I think under his leadership they’ve done very well.
    “He has been all over this,” Fauci added, referring to the coronavirus response.
    ********************
    Dr. Fauci said this on March 25, about the corrupt, China-infiltrated WHO.
    Navarro, Trump’s trade guy, says China controls by infiltration and/or bribery, 5 of the 15 major UN subunits, of which WHO is one.

    Fauci is IMO a leftist working for US economic decline with all his 2nd virus wave talk, trying to delay and slow any economic recovery. 20% of the American workforce is on unemployment right now, and the number keeps rising. Fauci does not care, period.

    A friend needed to fly to Minneapolis for work (praise God!), but for 5 days was unable to fly because United kept canceling the few flights now available due to lack of passengers.
    Here is a measure of where we really are: He today reports Houston International Airport, a United hub, is empty; lights are off; no food available; no people. He is one of four passengers on a Boeing 737 flying from Texas to Minnesota, which normally seats about 140!

    We are in a world of hurt, and I fear this will work to China’s ultimate advantage. It may be speculated the spreading of COVID was not accidental; when Xi has 1.4 billion people to play with, what are a few hundred thousand dead? Nothing at all, and get those virus-carrying Wuhanese on planes to the US and Europe stat.

  13. Kate–there are reports that the research on bat Coronaviruses that was carried out here in the U.S. was shut down in 2014 because this “Gain of Function” (GOF) research to increase the communicability of the virus was considered too dangerous, and it was this research—partially funded by the NIH–that was transferred to China, and continued at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

    See, for instance

    https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741

    and also https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/1253135/coronavirus-genetically-engineered-bioweapon-wuhan-lab-leak-covid19-spt

    Note the long correction at the end of the Express article–trying to thread the needle?

  14. Artfldgr on May 5, 2020 at 11:20 pm said:
    Bryan Lovely: Doctor Defenestration Demonstration…
    * * *
    Indeed.

  15. It’s pretty clear that Fauci should have recused himself from making any recommendations, as he had a definite professional interest in downplaying any dangers from the virus. His connection was at least as strong as, if not stronger than, any Sessions-Russia connections.

    Three years later, though—in December 2017—the NIH ended the moratorium and the second phase of the NIAID project, which included the gain-of-function research, began. The NIH established a framework for determining how the research would go forward: scientists have to get approval from a panel of experts, who would decide whether the risks were justified.

    The reviews were indeed conducted—but in secret, for which the NIH has drawn criticism. In early 2019, after a reporter for Science magazine discovered that the NIH had approved two influenza research projects that used gain of function methods, scientists who oppose this kind of research excoriated the NIH in an editorial in the Washington Post.

    “We have serious doubts about whether these experiments should be conducted at all,” wrote Tom Inglesby of Johns Hopkins University and Marc Lipsitch of Harvard. “[W]ith deliberations kept behind closed doors, none of us will have the opportunity to understand how the government arrived at these decisions or to judge the rigor and integrity of that process.“

    FISA, NIH – who else is making decisions behind closed doors?
    (Or better, who isn’t?)

    BTW, to the “it’s all Trump’s fault” brigades: there is absolutely no reason why he, or even his staff, would have been informed that (a) the research had existed; (b) there was a moratorium on it; (c) the moratorium ended; (d) China was getting part of the funding.
    Some things just don’t make it to the Presidential briefings; that’s why it’s important for each administration to have their own people at the head of, and also in the body of, all the agencies.
    Plus, he was kinda busy the last three years –

  16. Fauci isn’t the only person at the top of the medical elite with some problems.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/05/neil_ferguson_who_started_the_lockdown_panic_cheats_on_his_own_lockdown.html

    Ferguson has often been wrong. When Frederick Forsyth blasted the British government for relying on Ferguson, he referenced past Ferguson predictions:
    …
    With that track record, it’s possible that Ferguson doesn’t believe in his own data. That would explain the major story that broke in Britain’s Telegraph newspaper. It seems that Ferguson was forced to resign from his government advisory position because, while he was on lockdown, he got several visits from his girlfriend, a married woman with two children:

    Professor Neil Ferguson allowed the woman to visit him at home during the lockdown while lecturing the public on the need for strict social distancing in order to reduce the spread of coronavirus. The woman lives with her husband and their children in another house.
    …
    Ms Staats, a left-wing campaigner, made a second visit on April 8 despite telling friends she suspected that her husband, an academic in his 30s, had symptoms of coronavirus.

    She and her husband live together with their two children in a £1.9 million home, but are understood to be in an open marriage.

    The icing on this cake is that Staats, the married girlfriend in the posh London home, works for an anti-Semitic, hard-left Soros-funded organization:
    …
    With news of Ferguson’s hypocritical, narcissistic conduct, Tucker Carlson put together a 10-minute segment about the bold-faced hypocrisy that characterizes our political class. These people are a disgrace:

    Not a thought given to the people exposed by Staats traveling across town, but don’t you dare!

    Scroll on to the end and watch Tucker Carlson castigate the entitlement narcissism of our betters.

    Icing on the cake: as Tucker observes, Ferguson had COVID himself, but claimed he thought he was immune to further infection, despite all the news stories we see where that is not yet a proven fact.

    I don’t hold to the idea of “white privilege,” but there sure is a lot of “politician and pundit privilege” in the world.

  17. Well. This is unexpected. Will check back in 3 days and see if there are any developments.
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/chinese-scientist-on-verge-of-very-significant-coronavirus-findings-murdered-in-pittsburgh

    A well respected scientist at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center who was on the verge of making “very significant findings” in the fight against the coronavirus was murdered over the weekend inside his home.

    Dr. Bing Liu, 37, who is from China, “was shot multiple times around noon Saturday inside his home in the 200 block of Elm Court,” the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported. “Police believe that Mr. Liu was shot by another man — identified later by the Allegheny County Medical Examiner’s Office as Hao Gu, 46, of Pittsburgh — who then got into his car parked about 100 yards away on Charlemagne Circle and killed himself.”

    Police say the attack happened when Liu was home by himself and that the two men knew each other, but they did not indicate how, and they did not disclose any details on a possible motive for the incident. Law enforcement officials indicated that an investigation is ongoing.

  19. yah – pay no attention to that other man — and Epstein killed himself…

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