Obama’s jobs speech
Here’s a thread to discuss it, if you watched it.
Or if you didn’t.
I didn’t; I’ll check it out later. In print.
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Here’s a thread to discuss it, if you watched it.
Or if you didn’t.
I didn’t; I’ll check it out later. In print.
I meant to leave this comment a few threads back, but I haven’t been able to stand the sight of his face or the sound of his voice since well before the election. I turned off my TV on Election Night 2008 and didn’t turn it on again for a full three weeks afterwards. I entirely quit watching all TV news, including Fox. About the only thing I watch on TV now is baseball.
The only times I hear Obama’s speeches is when Mark Levin carries the audio, along with his Mystery Science Theater 3000-style running commentary. Even then Obama’s voice makes me cringe. As Neo has said, there is a lot of outright hostility in his voice.
I’ll Summarize – Pass the bill I haven’t written yet so I can spend 450 billion dollars we don’t have, and if you oppose this , you hate babies and Grandma. And Lincoln built the Transcontinental railroad or something.
I forgot to mention that Levin said that the phrase “pass it right now” or similar was used 18 times during the speech.
He also described it as a “Castro-like” speech. I don’t disagree.
It was more of the same, but it was sort of a somewhat perturbed yet enthusiastic defense of his ideology, where government is the source of all forward progress and he is only willing to look at the edges (only where government is really, really failing) as areas of compromise. He tried to couch his ideology in terms of the american tradition; as if it’s not out of keeping with our national character to have government as the main actor in sustaining our way of life and the backbone of our civic life. He was basically saying to the Republicans- left of left of center is where the benchmark is, and you really can’t move me off this since it is the principled position. A few strawmen arguments and false choices later, and still no one was listening to the speech as he has become some sort of CS Lewis post-afterlife character; stripped bare of all pretenses and exposed as the petulant little ideologue he is.
By the way, I sort of instinctively go to my favorite right of center blogs after listening to/watching a speech like that. Not for “talking points” or guidance, but just sort of as a cleansing. I can’t imagine listening to the nonsense he spouted and thinking that it made sense.
The pundits are saying its the worst of the worst and the end of a presidency.
Didn’t past presidents ASK Congress to pass such-and-such bill? Petition them, at least? This fellow talked to Comgress like a demanding mommy to a little child and DIRECTED them to pass it * .
* Yes, sight unseen. As Rep. Eric Cantor pointed out afterwards, (with anything of this sort) the devil is in the details.
Was it so bad that a primary challenge is coming?
http://www.wesurroundthempa.org/?p=3751
Well, it shows how far we’ve come since he was elected. Last time the public seemed to support a bill twice this size when he pushed it…. since what, you don’t want to ‘do’ anything (aka, the talking point from last time)… Now it probably won’t pass… and if it does it wont work since no one wants to grow their company with this guy still in office…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2011/sep/09/american-jobs-act
What jumped out at me was the language…
Then what jumped out was including ruchard trumpka and unions by name… and a “national” bank…
thought ya’ll would like to read it, or not…
OT: “Witness,” a series of watercolors. Scroll down to read the artist’s story.
http://www.toddstone.com/Witness/Witness.html
New York is under a “specific, credible terror threat,” Kelly and Bloomberg said at a press conference an hour ago. Bridges, tunnels, and ferries in particular. They interrupted the Packers/Saints game with a Breaking News report.
Meanwhile, the city is full of fashionistas for Fashion Week, and mobile Makeover trucks. A boutique in our building is having a luxurious backyard party. And Ravel’s “La Valse” should be playing in the background. . . .
Did anyone see after the speech whether Obama snubbed Boehner by deliberately not shaking his hand? a friend of mine so reported.
Uses the term “Innovative” 10 times
“Investment” 13 times
Prohibiting Employers from Discriminating Against Unemployed Workers: The President’s
plan calls for legislation that would make it unlawful to refuse to hire applicants solely
because they are unemployed or to include in a job posting a provision that unemployed
persons will not be considered.
to remove the barriers that exist in the current refinancing program (HARP) to help more borrowers benefit from today’s historically low interest rates
oh.. and i almost didnt catch this one!!!!!
Expanding access to high-speed wireless as part of a plan for freeing up the nation’s spectrum.
which leads to this point at the very end..
* Proposal has a gross cost of $10bn, but a net deficit reducing impact of $18bn because of spectrum auction proceeds.
I will leave it for someone else to make comment on that one… but i will say there is not much specturm to auction..as far back as january there was talk of a spectrum crisis, and “white space” (in between tv channels) is free…
rickl, I feel just as you do with respect to the sound and sight of Obama, and I’ve felt that way almost as long, though I did actually watch the inauguration speech somehow. That must have been the last time I sat through any of his speeches from start to finish. I don’t avoid all news shows, but whenever he is featured speaking in a clip, I’m usually inclined to turn off the TV or change the channel.
1. I don’t see how Mickey Kaus’s sound bite can be topped:
At times he achieved the rare, magical combination of seeming desperate and condescending at the same time.
2. Intrade has Obama’s reelection chances as a tossup. There is no material change after the speech as far as I can tell. In contrast, there was a small but definite movement to Romney after the debate.
I ran an easy six miles with my buddies. My wife can’t stand the sight or sound of our President so she tuned into Stephen Green’s Drunk Blogging. I think we chose wisely. Now, if he had just said this, we’d have been impressed:
“It is time for America to become the energy superpower. The real stimulus that we’ve been waiting for is robust and responsible domestic energy production. We have the resources. Affordable and secure energy is the key to any thriving economy, and it must be our foundation.”
But no, this was just another sound-bite from that moron in Alaska.
Pat Dooley, Stephen Green called it at 3:39 PM:
3:39PM Get ready for Jobs Bill Kabuki! Here’s how it goes.
The President will ask for a jillion dollars in continued tax breaks and goodies for Democrat constituents…
And that’s pretty much all there was to the speech, iced as it was with a thick layer of BS rhetoric.
Watched the speech; read the speech; read the speech while watching the speech a second time. Got this out of the speech.
Preventing Layoffs of Teachers, Cops and Firefighters: The President is proposing to invest $35 billion to prevent layoffs of up to 280,000 teachers, while supporting the hiring of tens of thousands more and keeping cops and firefighters on the job. These funds would help states and localities avoid and reverse layoffs now, requiring that funds be drawn down quickly. Under the President’s proposal, $30 billion be directed towards educators and $5 billion would support the hiring and retention of public safety and first responder personnel.
Public school teachers = super strong Democrat vote.
Governor Corzine threw huge amounts of the 2009 stimulus money into eduction(salaries), when Christie came into office the federal stimulus funds were dry. Result: evil Republican hates children and teachers because he won’t give them money. Obama wants to rinse and repeat on a larger scale.
There is a bit of conversation on this quote, but it is sure the one that jumps out at me:
“What kind of country would this be if this Chamber had voted down Social Security or Medicare just because it violated some rigid idea about what government could or could not do?”
uh… a country with a constitutionally limited government?
In respect of Godwin’s law, I will merely say it sounds like Juan Peron.
Obama gave a speech?
I watched the first 3 minutes of it and heard “pass this bill” three times.
I then turned it off and put on ScoobyDoo and watched that with my son. Quite an enjoyable evening!
At this point Obama could discover the cure for cancer and his re-election potential would not improve. I always thought he would show his lack of leadership in a crisis; instead he created his own by a thousand imbecilic acts. If he had kept his mouth shut and stayed in bed except for photo ops he could have passed himself off as thoughtful, instead he believed his own lefty propaganda and acted as though it were true. Absurdity born of arrogance, amateurism and doctrine, the Obama leadership style.
“”I watched the first 3 minutes of it and heard “pass this bill” three times.””
Which translates to give me private sector money so i can launder it through Washington then give it back to the private sector to help them out.
I heard an agitated agitator.
He was in his mobilize-public-housing-residents-to-march-on-city-hall mode.
“And everything in this bill will be paid for.” You betcha.
A total POS, not a POTUS.
RIGHT AWAY! RIGHT AWAY! RIGHT AWAY. Pass this bill RIGHT AWAY. Rrrrr-ight Away.
i noticed that some read others take and quoted, but no one actually decided (as i wanted to be loath to assume) to read the actual text of the jobs act which was being held by the press (who received it early) until after the speech.
at what point do poisoned people realize they are being poisoned by the people summarizing and providing the food to feed their heads?
ie… get it from the document yourself, then your immunized and or taken the cure
dont… and you swallow whatever poison sounds good and is palatable for you. “hmmmm almonds” (arsenic)
our desire to go to a trusted source is out desire and internal knowing that people poison mind food most often compared to real food, and cant be prosecuted for damaging another mind doing it.
however, a trusted source that is not worthy of that trust, or is in the hands of someone else they serve, is akin to your body guard shooting you when its convenient…
Charlie
In respect of Godwin’s law, I will merely say it sounds like Juan Peron.
Good comparison. Juan Domingo and Evita made a career of scapegoating the rich. Evita said a number of times to her followers, “Let’s storm Barrio Norte,” which is Buenos Aires’s equivalent of Park Avenue.
But please don’t send a flash mob to Hyde Park in Chicago. That wouldn’t be nice. Al least not until the POTUS sold his house there.
The Pubs should pass a bill with some similarities to what Romney proposed, with an emphasis on curbing Obama’s regulatory frenzy. Emphasize changes which would encourage small businesses to hire, which come to think of it, would to a large extent consist of curbing Obama’s regulatory frenzy. Let the Senate vote it down, or let the POTUS veto it.
on another note:
Google and WordPress are blocking the name of the West African country “_iger,” no doubt due to its similarity to a derogatory word for Black people.
i guess google will erase a whole country and its name in the name of censorship done the idiot way…
i hear suma c u m laude now no longer exists either
word has it that only dark meat chicken can be served, as the word breast is offensive…
but to be clear…
the future, according to some academics, ideologues, protestors, lawhers and others, the next in thing will be legal pedophilia… which for some reason is not offensive… nor is loving anal fisting for junior high… nor… well you get the point as to consistency
Quick summary, “I want to direct even more borrowed money to established democrat supporters and call it creating jobs. You Republicans will get on board with this NOW because I am the centrist, responsible person in D.C.”
He asked for any ideas for creating jobs from anyone. Hmm, did he not read my August e-mail that outlined a few things to boost jobs. Not one of my ideas was accepted. Bad move, Barack.
If he had just said, “I am directing the head of HHS to issue waivers on Obamacare to everyone, effectively ending that poorly crafted piece of legislation.” the market would be up 500 points today, small business owners would be thinking about how they could increase the size of their businesses, and the progs would be foaming at the mouth.
“What kind of country would this be if this Chamber had voted down Social Security or Medicare just because it violated some rigid idea about what government could or could not do?”
uh… a country with a constitutionally limited government?
That’s the “A” answer. The “B” answer is “a country that isn’t being bankrupted and had its credit rating downgraded by entitlement spending.”
Occam’s Beard, check out my reply to your comment at Getting sick of Obama’s voice and empty promises.