Just one question: Has Michael Moore looked in the mirror lately?
Perhaps not:
White people. Nobody likes giving up power. And they never see the writing on the wall. The new day arrives and no one has the heart to tell them they and their old tired privileged ways are over. https://t.co/jAGjzEjLgp
— Michael Moore (@MMFlint) April 15, 2019
Or maybe Moore is just speaking of himself in the third person, as some people are wont to do. Then again, perhaps a white person who turns against “white people” become an honorary person of color and therefore escapes the “white people” taint. And a “privileged white person” who turns against “privileged” white people likewise gets some sort of points he/she would otherwise not have in the intersectional sweepstakes.
I could not be more tired of the racism of the left.
Skin, considered as an organ is, apart from mostly continuous stuff, quite remarkably stretchy, rubbery even; can hang in sagging bag-like pouches at times or yanked by the fistful in other cases snap back into shape in an instant. One thing I’ve never seen skin do though and that’s articulate a coherent thought.
sdferr,
Moore’s skin has had to stretch a whole lot. And as for the articulate thought, Moore’s head is probably full of skin.
There’s likely to be a skinhead joke in there somewhere, but I doubt I should attempt it.
SJW people. Nobody likes giving up power. And they never see the writing on the wall. The new day arrives and no one has the heart to tell them they and their old tired privileged ways are over.
Michael Moore: That’s how some of us see it. Catch you on the flip-side!
MAGA, baby.
I dispute that AOC is a woman “of color.” She is Puerto Rican by ancestry. Puerto Rico was settled by the Spanish. Very little of the native Indian blood remains, and because it wasn’t suitable for the large plantations like other islands, there were also very few Africans imported. She’s no more “of color” than any other American of southern European ancestry.
Then again, perhaps a white person who turns against “white people” become an honorary person of color and therefore escapes the “white people” taint. And a “privileged white person” who turns against “privileged” white people likewise gets some sort of points
Admission against interest. That’s what’s behind it. That and virtue-signaling.
Content of character is sooo last century.
Kate:
Well, “of color” is mostly defined politically these days.
But also, I will say that—having a watched a number of YouTube videos of people looking at their DNA results from Ancestry and the like, of whom some are of Puerto Rican origin—it is highly likely that AOC has at least some native American and some African genetics, however small those contributions might be. It turns out that most Puerto Ricans seem to be composed of those three elements, in differing proportions.
Now, what percentage of those elements constitutes modern-day political “people of color” is another question.
I couldn’t care less what her color is, by the way. But she certainly does, and other people often seem to, if only to proclaim their victimhood and intersectional superiority.
My sister did 23andMe and it turns out she has about double the Neanderthal variants as other 23andMe clients. Assuming I’m about the same, I’m damn proud of my Neanderthal heritage.
Say it loud, I’m Neanderthal and proud!
My sister has prehensile feet too, though I’m not sure that’s a Neanderthal thing.
I don’t care what AOC’s ancestry is, Neo, nor do I care about anyone else’s except as a matter of polite interest. But it does seem to me that we’re back in the bad old days of “a single drop of blood,” except now it’s a plus instead of a minus. It’s ridiculous. AOC and Clarence Thomas are both “of color?” Elizabeth Warren is an Amerindian because of a single great-great-great grandmother, or something like that? Who’s kidding whom? My opinion of AOC is based on her apparent ignorance and lack of real education.
If SJWs and POCs want to keep pushing their anti-white line, I’m all for a divorce.
We’ll keep white science, medicine and technology, plus white art, music and musical instruments, and they can have the rest. Whatever that is…
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That’s harsh but I was not amused by this racist rant from an MIT librarian:
If you look at any United States library’s collection, especially those in higher education institutions, most of the collections (books, journals, archival papers, other media, etc.) are written by white dudes writing about white ideas, white things, or ideas, people, and things they stole from POC and then claimed as white property with all of the “rights to use and enjoyment of” that Harris describes in her article. When most of our collections filled with this so-called “knowledge,” it continues to validate only white voices and perspectives and erases the voices of people of color. . .
–https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/today-in-the-college-apocalypse.php
‘Course he hasn’t. Like looking at a pic of Lena Dunham in a bikini. You can’t unsee it.
Fat Shaming, “Oh, the humanity.” (Hindenberg disaster).
Just one question: Has Michael Moore looked in the mirror lately?
Has he ever? 🙂
I once read his book Stupid White Men. Moore told us that unlike those dastardly politicians, he appreciated teachers and what they were doing. He also told us that high school students lived “under some sort of totalitarian dictatorship.”
Does that mean that Moore appreciates a totalitarian dictatorship? 🙂
I once read [Moore’s] book Stupid White Men.
Gringo: An Episcopalian gave that book to me as a present at my birthday party. I smiled, thanked him and gave him a hug in front of the group.
Later he discovered I was conservative and he felt I had somehow betrayed him with my cordiality.
What was I supposed to do? Spit on the floor and throw the book at him? No, I was grateful my friend had thought of me on my birthday and had given me a gift.
Progressives is the craziest people!
Art Deco:
Well, he doesn’t actually have to look in a mirror. He could just glance down at his own hand now and then.
Kate:
I didn’t mean to imply that you cared about her percentage of this or that heritage. I was just pointing out that, for those who care (mostly on the left), as a Puerto Rican she probably does have some (perhaps quite small) percentage of genetic inheritance from both Native Americans and sub-Saharan Africans.
Huxley,
You could have quoted Matthew 23:27 to that Episcopalian:
“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness.”
So much for the profession of love and tolerance by those on the left.
Nobody here has more Neanderthal variants than I do! I guarantee it.
Neo, I know you didn’t mean it that way.
Alas, lots of leftists today DO care about what percentages of ancestry people carry, or claim to carry.
NEO Then again, perhaps a white person who turns against “white people” become an honorary person of color and therefore escapes the “white people” taint.
actually not… they are hated even more for it, but are left alone till later..
in fact, there is quite a bit of literature on the rules if you bother to find and read it
it would explain why a white person is racist but a black person isn’t for the same thing… it would explain that things like above, are just what (as the Germans said of another class) such do to prove they are something so they think they can avoid or hide… by the way, i have read such that explains to me that is the reason i married my wife, who is pacific asian.
lots of other stuff, but this kind of stuff was there way back in the 60s and 70s
the other newer stuff is what puts it together and employs it
that’s when a few of the hogs start noticing there is a fence on three sides.
they are moving to the next power base, the prior one forgot to procreate
not to mention (shhhh dont mention it) other demographic oddities
In re AOC’s heritage – As I used to repeat, what I objected to about Obama wasn’t his father’s genetics, it was his mother’s politics (she was a second or third generation “red diaper” baby).
Artfldgr:
This statement of mine was sarcasm: “Then again, perhaps a white person who turns against ‘white people’ become an honorary person of color and therefore escapes the ‘white people’ taint.”
Huxley,
Your response to the book as a gift was perfect. I decided long ago that I would accept all gifts, all greetings (Merry Christmas/Happy Hanukkah, etc.) in the spirit they were intended. If someone cares enough to give me a gift, I cherish the thought, if not necessarily the item itself. But I will still treat the item itself with some respect.
Gifts are powerful things. And so are friends.
Edward, Fractal Rabbit: Thank you.
I really liked the guy. He was gay and progressive, but we were both writers, Christians, and shared similarly slanted senses of humor. I thought we were going to be great friends, but he just dropped out of my life and others’ as well.
He never admitted it, but I put it together later. He had a very painful medical condition and I lost him to painkillers. I once drove him to Walgreen’s and he picked up literally a grocery bag of Oxy boxes.
@huxley:
But if you don’t have prehensile feet, how do you pick up your socks?
(I kid, it used to creep out my ex-wife when I would pick things up with my toes. Never understood why.)
Michael Moore ?? Does AOC even know who he is?
“New party, who dis?”
https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2019/04/17/michael-moore-desperately-grasps-approval-aoc-ridiculous-tweet/
“As Emily Zanotti of the Daily Wire pointed out, this could be Moore desperately searching for relevancy from a section of the Democrats who he sees growing larger and larger in power every day:”
MIchael Towns,
Last time I checked into 23me I was pushing 300. My dad has 332! How about you?
I have 308. So you’re dad is the Neanderthal King!
(she was a second or third generation “red diaper” baby).
Huh?
Her mother was the supervisor of escrow accounts for the Bank of Hawaii (who treated her staff with a certain amount of asperity) and her father spent his entire adult life after his discharge from the military selling furniture and insurance. Both grew up in small towns in Kansas. Neither had any liberal education beyond high school English and history, neither was ever a trade union official, and neither were known to carry petitions in local elections or serve on party committees (much less run for office). By all accounts, her father was a boisterous man without a serious thought in his head. He joined a Unitarian congregation because ‘you get five religions for the price of one’.
As for her grandparents, they all resided in Butler County, Ks or in Wichita. Both grandmothers were housewives; one died quite young. One grandfather was an office clerk, the other a car mechanic.
ArtDeco:
And yet they were friends with Frank Marshal Davis a Communist, fit that into your history. I didn’t know of any unions of salesmen or of banking professionals (not clerks). Not having a “higher education” or coming from a small town doesn’t protect you from socialism or progressive indoctrination.
And yet they were friends with Frank Marshal Davis a Communist, fit that into your history.
Strange as it may seem to you, screwball ideologues have personal friends.
By what accounts have appeared in the press, Stanley Dunham and Frank Marshall Davis got together to play checkers and smoke dope. Davis at that point was earning a living running a small distributorship (paper products). He’d gone out to Hawaii as an official of the west coast Longshoremen. I had a set of relations who relocated to Honolulu between 1937 and 1969. Warm (but not oppressive) weather, trade winds, palm trees, fragrant nighttime air, kalua pig and pineapple. No neckties. People get out there and go native.
Not having a “higher education” or coming from a small town doesn’t protect you from socialism or progressive indoctrination.
You fancy Butler County, Ks was chock-a-bloc with Commie schoolteachers in 1926? Have they found Rolla Payne’s CP membership card? How about Ralph Dunham’s?
Nathan Lane was once asked if he was homosexual. His reply was that he was a 40 year old bachelor working in musical theatre, “you do the math”. Same deal here.
I think that this is a form of imature adolescent self-loathing. In Michael Moore’s case, it is understandable. He is such a sorry specimen.
Ok, progressives and communists in the 1930s were only found in urban areas and they all kept their CP cards. Makes sense to you,
Ok, progressives and communists in the 1930s were only found in urban areas and they all kept their CP cards. Makes sense to you,
What makes sense to me is that you don’t make assertions about people without direct or circumstantial evidence. “Red diaper babies” are a tiny minority in this country. Someone pulls out of their rectum the notion that Stanley Dunham, Madelyn Payne and Ann Dunham were ‘red diaper babies’, I’m really not obligated to disprove it. However, I’ve elected to point out that the documentation is not there, that there’s nothing in their lives that correlates with that and thus no reason to believe that said assertion is in fact true. For whatever reason, you’ve invested in this particular ass-pull and fancy it’s my job to prove a negative. It isn’t.
The one thing you bring to the table is that Stanley Dunham had Frank Marshall Davis among his personal friends. Ya think Frank Marshall Davis had no other friends? So, we should assume that every other friend he had (and their children) were either Communists or ‘red diaper babies’? Do I have that right?
If you look at any United States library’s collection, especially those in higher education institutions, most of the collections (books, journals, archival papers, other media, etc.) are written by white dudes writing about white ideas, white things, or ideas, people, and things they stole from POC and then claimed as white property
I fear that one day one of those African superpowers will come and punish us whites for those crimes.
From what I have read, there is not any proof, other than friendship with Frank Marshall Davis, that anyone in the Dunham/Payne lineage was Red. “Liberal,” yes. I have also read speculation that Obama’s grandparents or mother were affiliated with the CIA. That strikes me as no more than speculation.
I have also read speculation that the Unitarian church that Obama’s mother and grandparents attended in the Seattle area in the 1950s was Red-influenced. I can’t speak about that particular Unitarian church, but decades after the fact, I found there were several red diaper baby peers in the Liberal Religious Youth (Unitarian) group I belonged to. (This is NOT speculation. There is supporting evidence in Wikipedia or NYT.) As such, I found it reasonable to speculate about Reds in the Unitarian church that Obama’s grandparents and mother attended- but that doesn’t say anything about anyone else being Red.
Neo had an interesting article with also interesting comments, on Obama and the disturbing influence of Frank Marshall Davis.
ArtDeco:
Read who posted the “red diaper doper baby.” It wasn’t me. You are assuming lots of stuff and making assertions. We do know about F.M. Davis and BHO’s maternal grandfather, but that isn’t as important as the grandfather’s other unknown friends? Okay if you say so. You are the authority after all.
I question your generalizations that you have appended to your research. Thin skin today?
I have also read speculation that Obama’s grandparents or mother were affiliated with the CIA. That strikes me as no more than speculation.
That’s Steve Sailer, who loves him some conspirazoid manure but is generally too coy to subscribe to it explicitly. Ann Dunham worked for the Ford Foundation in Indonesia. Sailer’s speculation is that she engaged in ‘favor banking’ with local CIA operatives. Refers to her, not to her parents.
I have also read speculation that the Unitarian church that Obama’s mother and grandparents attended in the Seattle area in the 1950s was Red-influenced.
IIRC, they lived in a rather drab exurb of Seattle. Doubt there were many reds running around in 1957.
Read who posted the “red diaper doper baby.” It wasn’t me.
You’ve elected to weigh in on the subject twice. Something tells me you have an opinion on it.
We do know about F.M. Davis and BHO’s maternal grandfather, but that isn’t as important as the grandfather’s other unknown friends?
No clue why you’re referring to Stanley Dunham’s other friends when my question concerned Frank Marshall Davis’ other friends. You’ve insisted multiple times that Stanley Dunham’s association with Davis was suspicious. If Davis taints Stanley Dunham, he taints everyone else with whom he plays checkers. Is it your contention we should assume all of his friends and their children are Communists or red-diaper babies?
Thin skin today?
No, just an impatient old man.
I’m mystified. As a white American male, I get it from all sides and wonder, very often wonder, why in a country where people sling epithets, accusing others of racism or sexism, that none of them notice they make distinctions about me based on the color of my skin or sexual orientation every single day and are never called into question.
Neo had an interesting article with also interesting comments, on Obama and the disturbing influence of Frank Marshall Davis.
Stanley Kurtz has made the case that BO was part of a red-haze subculture ca. 1985, the sort of person who fancied The Nation, Mother Jones, The New York Review of Books, and Harper’s under Lewis Lapham to be fountainheads of good sense, Victor Navasky’s rancid birdcage liner in particular. I think he’s also made the case that BO was a member of Michael Harrington’s outfit at that time. Repellent to my taste, but unremarkable among the university-affiliated portside.
Steve Sailer’s conception of Obama is that he missed his vocation as a Foreign Service Officer, because his talent is in transmitting the views of others, not in adding anything of his own. He’s also of the view that Obama seems to have undergone some sort of personality reconstruction ca. 1989, because there’s no evidence from any earlier point in time that he had leadership qualities.
I cannot think of a stance Obama’s ever taken that has much of a signature. He’s just another cell in the urban professional-managerial class liberal Borg creature. I’m not seeing the influence of Frank Marshall Davis. You want to explore a mentor-mentee relationship, I’d suggest Martin Peretz and Albert Gore or Loyal Davis and Ronald Reagan.
Something tells me you have thin skin today, old man, from another old man. My opinion about “red diaper doper babies” isn’t worth sharing, wasn’t my post. I’m not the authority.
Mike K — I for one, welcome our new Wakandan overlords!
What is really interesting is that Michael Moore first came to prominence in 1989, with his documentary “Roger & Me”, about the effects of GM’s plant closures on his hometown of Flint, MI. I’ve watched that film, and it’s really good, and it illustrates why people like Ross Perot and Pat Buchanan had surges of popularity in the 1990s, with their economic messages.
That documentary came out about a year after the 1988 Presidential election, where Bush the Elder won 40 states, including California and Michigan. Now look where we are 30 years later.
Michael Moore’s present expectation is that under current trends, the near future will be a ruling coalition of a majority of non-white persons allied with a minority of like-minded white persons, all in pursuit of generally leftist and progressive goals. They may end up with the numbers for the power they crave, but the situation may not be ideal for social stability.