Are white people becoming a minority?
Well, it depends how you define “white”:
In 2015, more than 17 percent of marriages in America were across “racial” lines. It is the reality of ethnic intermarriage that will add critical weight to the conservative argument for cultural assimilation, just as intermarriage in America between immigrants of various European ethnicities propelled cultural assimilation ala the “melting pot” in previous centuries.
Earlier this year, the Washington Post published a fascinating article headlined, “The Demise of the White Majority is a Myth,” by USC public policy professor Dowell Myers and his political scientist colleague Morris Levy. “Under a more expansive definition that counts as white anyone who so identifies (even if they also identify with another race or ethnicity),” Myers and Levy write, “the white population is not declining; it’s flourishing. The Census Bureau’s inclusive projections show a white population in excess of 70 percent of the total for the foreseeable future.”…
Watch out, professional race hustlers. Your entire livelihood is “rooted in outmoded notions of racial exclusivity.”
Based on demographic data that Myers and Levy cite, when one uses the inclusive definition of white, America is destined to remain around 75 percent white for decades to come. Using any other definition renders unsustainable the Leftist strategy of identity politics. How can they continue to carve out preferential treatment for “people of color,” if nearly everyone is mostly “White,” yet qualifies?
That’s exactly what the recent Elizabeth Warren DNA brouhaha suggests: if someone with only a tiny bit of genetics from a certain group can claim to be a member of that group, then nearly all of us can, and what happens to preferential treatment then? It goes out the window because there are too many candidates for perks.
Personally, I have long detested identity politics and I would prefer that every single person be treated as an individual. But our educational system, MSM, arts, entertainment business, and legal system (and I’ve probably left something out) all seem increasingly dedicated to the opposite goal.
[NOTE: I focused on a single aspect of the article that gave me the idea for this post. But it’s not the main theme of that article, which began with a discussion of the fact that posters going up at various colleges reading “It’s Okay to be White” have been condemned and removed as hate speech, because they are sometimes supported by white supremacists.]
Diversity. Color judgments and politics.
It depends on your definition of “white.” If you are a Democrat, anyone who succeeds on their own is “White.” As in “Acting White.”
There was an uproar here when these posters appeared at NC State and Duke. They don’t list any author or groups sponsoring them. They simply say, “It’s okay to be white.” Why the uproar? It isn’t okay to be white? That’s certainly what many professors and administrators are teaching, and yet, as this author points out, “white” now includes many groups who were “not white” a few decades ago (Jews, southern Europeans, central Europeans). In addition, intermarriage is now so commonplace that separate ethnic or racial identities are becoming less prevalent. In my own family is a woman who identifies as “black.” An adopted child, she has some African ancestry which shows in her tightly curled hair, but her skin is as pale as many an Italian I know. Her name sounds Hispanic and before someone told me she is “black” I thought she was Hispanic. Her child, with another “white” ancestry level, has curly dark hair and dark eyes but is not otherwise noticeably “black.” Who is he? He is himself, with his own way to make in the world.
Kate: It’s simple. The Democrats have signaled that some kinds of racism are not only not bad, but virtuous. Being prejudiced, and even bigoted against white people (and men) is now considered a virtue. Given that, as you say, “whiteness” is less distinct than it used to be generations ago may, in this political climate, cause people to more and more “identify” as non-white. This kind of exacerbation of race issues is inevitable when one side is blindly and absolutely obsessed with race, instead of concerning themselves with the content of people’s character.
I thought that today you could choose your age, sex and race, like Rachel Anne Doležal.
In the New York in which my father grew up, Italians, Greeks, Jews, and other “Mediterranean” types were considered by many to be non-white. In the New York of my childhood, Puerto Ricans regarded themselves as white as long as they could claim any white ancestry (the one-drop rule in reverse) and were regarded by the general public and the census as white.
Today, Italians, Greeks, Jews, etc., are classified as white, and Puerto Ricans like Sotomayor are people of color, even though they may look as white as Italians. Because they are people of color, formerly white Puerto Ricans, along with other Hispanics, add something called “diversity” to any organization and are therefore entitled to preferential treatment, whereas formerly non-white people like Italians do not add diversity and are not entitled to preferential treatment.
Curious, is it not?
What degree of inner shallowness is required to self-identify with something as superficial as skin color? We are aware of many things in our environment (including our bodies), but we are none of those things. We are awareness, pure and simple.
The Human Genome Project conclusively found that racial subspecies do not exist. How absurd, then, to slap such superficial and ficticious labels on ourselves and others. When over time nothing good comes from a social construct, reason and logic suggest it should be abandoned. If not for the caterwauling insistence of social justice warriors, humanity might do just that and move on to more productive challenges.
But in their post-modern world, SJWs see reason and logic as tools of white supremacy. Irrationally reassured, they cling to their dark racial fantasies as though their lives depend on them. SJWs travel a slow slow path made all the slower by dead end illusions. They want the rest of us to slow down with them and play in their pretend world. Their causes are warmed over from decades and centuries past. They bore me. No thank you.
please study demographics and the lags and such in it..
we been declining and requiring imports for a long time…
ergo, if we stop importing, the population drop will be noticed
then people will ask why
and they will find out they been tricked into democide for demographic change
that they are not the future of much of anything, cause they never had kids
and the future are the imports that are here to replace their infertile selves
happened in russia for the same reason..
the only difference is that russia could not import…
we have been below replacement since around 1970..
just after the feminist revolution, it collapsed among the ladies of the time
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A sizable number of Hispanics are already white, or consider themselves such. As they intermarry at a high level, the “white” American core will get a bit duskier, but otherwise not change that much.
In addition, there are those immigrant groups that are difficult to classify, but are sort of “off-white.” I’m thinking of Persians, Turks, Christian Arabs and the like.
There’s also the Latin American concept of “social race,” based on what job you have, who you marry, how you behave etc. By this concept, a lot of East Asians and Hispanics are already “socially white.”
What degree of inner shallowness is required to self-identify with something as superficial as skin color?
well, that’s from the outside looking in..
from the inside looking out, maybe Einsteins mother should have aborted him
why? cause she had the same idea about her genes… and she happened to be the wrong color for lizard here…
genetics matter and we don’t care…
sing it to jimmy cracked corn…
When you look in and find awareness by itself without reference to anything else, you have found the source of everything out there. What a thought that there might be a right or wrong color! Color is just color. Pick your favorites and enjoy.
The seen is only for the sake of the seer, who has no color.
@Banned Lizard:The Human Genome Project conclusively found that racial subspecies do not exist.
Forensic anthropologists–the people who identify human remains when all other methods fail–disagree with you:
The determination of an individual’s ancestry is typically grouped into three historical groups, Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid. However, the use of these classifications is becoming much harder as the rate of interancestrial marriages increases and markers become less defined. By measuring distances between landmarks on the skull as well as the size and shape of specific bones anthropologists can use a series of equations to estimate ancestry. Typically, the maxilla is used to help anthropologists determine an individual’s ancestry due to the three basic shapes, hyperbolic, parabolic, and rounded, belonging to the three historical ancestries, Negroid, Caucasoid, and Mongoloid respectively.
Genetic diseases like Tay-Sachs and sickle-cell anemia are not evenly distributed among populations, and that’s due to who your ancestors were.
While my wife and I share Genghis Khan as a ancestor, the vast majority of her ancestors were in an entirely different continent from mine and that’s immediately evident by putting us side-by-side. That difference in ancestry is real and it has real-world effects, in terms of what our hair and eyes and teeth and bones look like, in terms of what diseases we are susceptible to.
IF you want to understand whats going on, your going to have to DERIVE answers
they will NOT give them to you in an easy to understand chart
if you see that, your going to flip out as you have never seen one before…
now… remember… BELOW 2.1 is too low to replace..
and that the number is for EVERYONE including the new imports!!!
Japan 1.3 children per woman
United Kingdom 1.9 children per woman
Canada 1.6 children per woman
United States 2.1 children per woman
so with the southern border bleeding people…
we can just keep our TOTAL population from changing
but inside that total, what is happening to the lines on the pie chart?
now… is that true? nope… its a belief
for women, a belief is the same as truth…
Ask all the women that knew kavenaugh did it!!
anyway… lets make this a bit clearer.. here are the rules
1) never let the group that is in super decline know it
2) its ok to point out all the other groups not in super decline
3) don’t worry, the group in super decline wont realize that they are not on the other list and that they haven’t been in over 65 years…
4) you can slice and dice the data all ways, but you cant get simple answers from it about whats going on!!! like fertility rate of each race plotted since 1950… the numbers given out wont let you do that, despite the other numbers available show they could tell you
here is a interesting graph…
Shown is the ‘Total Fertility Rate’ which measures the number of children that would be born to a woman if she were to live to the end of her childbearingyears and bear children in accordance with the age-specific fertility rates of the specific year.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/children-born-per-woman?year=1562
things get real interesting around 1850 in the USA…
it goes light… but then…
1970 right after the feminist revolution it goes almost clear!!!
take a look.. and then remember the years we started importing more!!
as western feminism with soviet bent went around the world, those countries that partaked of their progressive ideas, population collapsed.. feminism requires a modern press and TV and such to constantly barrage the women with the message…
and here is the prize.. but alas, not for all the years
Birth Rates Around the World
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/birth-rate-the-number-of-births-per-1000-people-in-the-population
click on the add a country button and you can add USA black or USA white..
and they stopped showing blacks in 1992… why?
you see a decline since the baby boom of the war
then the 1968 protests and feminist stuff, which brought an uptick..
but in 1970 California adopted no-fault divorce with the Family Law Act of 1969, which became effective January 1, 1970.
it hit the lowest …
in between 1970 and 1980 we went from lowest immigration rates to much higher rates over 10 year periods, then when that wasnt enough, we started just letting them in over the border
what would happen to the movement if this was found out before it was too late?
before you say no way, these are the people with the same knowing ideology as stalin, hitler, mao, etc…. those despots were not alone… they were admired by the left and the left has never stopped admiring them or marxism or even changed the goals if you read enough!!!!!!
What a thought that there might be a right or wrong color! Color is just color. Pick your favorites and enjoy.
lizard your confusing knowing what you are with what you do with the information
no one really cared about color until the modern century politics
Othello a black moor murdered his white wife…
and it was the democrats and the socialists of the time who were the one about race… why not pay attention? trotsky invented the term racism about culture, not color, but since americans were never taught, and they heard the marxists talk they thought it was about color.. as that was a proxy for where you were and what culture until recently
and in case you didnt notice, no one has ever had to have a movement to get people to like each other regardless of color. but there have been lots of laws and such by doo gooders to stop them from mixing!!!!!!!!!!! the same way we think its ok to stop you haveing sex with your cocker spaniel… at least thts how they saw it.. why? cause they came out of the era of modern man, and man as animal and this was the view all over the world… primitives were man as animal.. modern man was free of that… but then, the new move now, is to domesticate man… to make man more like cattle..
you only have to know breeding, genetics, animal husbandry, etc.
you can even look up how to domesticate
you remove the males… make the women dominate
and on and on…
but when they will notice that? i dont know.. they cant even notice up to 40 million people in 10 years as immigrants and illegals till there is enough to change the language and yet, they dont get it…
but only the dems care about color here
no one else does… in fact, thats a problem with the left
their message is falling less and less on people it SEEMS to matter
what am i to do with a son who is half latvian, has indian in him, and a step mother who is indonesian chinese and how many of my family is korean now too?
so your just spouting noise without understanding
too young, you want to sound smart…
kumbaya to you too..
on another note one of the early founders of mgtow was on cnn
a woman will introduce you…
and she dont like it.. as she will lump all them with the nutters
so its hard to understand as she thinks she got an interview thats hard
and she is cracking some code..
[go to niceguy forum.. read our book… we started it.. find out!!!]
MGTOW Is Freedom (Big John) on CNN – “Full” Interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx6ij-MAQqE
by the way its too easy to focus on idiots who think they are a part of something and make their own really nasty video…
Neo said “I would prefer that every single person be treated as an individual.”
Me too. But increasingly, there are people who do not want to be treated as an individual, because that would require taking responsibility for themselves.
Hey, remember George Zimmerman? — the dude who shot Trayvon Martin six(?) years ago . . . he was a “white hispanic”. Seems one’s ethnicity can be very much a function of what fulfills the needs of the mainstream media narrative du jour.
Above all the “educational system.”
Joy Pullmann of The Federalist is of late my favorite writer on the ed biz/racket.
http://thefederalist.com/2018/11/09/midterms-democrats-college-indoctrination-campaign-bore-fruit/
NEO — Edit function ain’t there no more.
Fortunately, I was only back-proofreading and not trying to fix anything substantive.
M J R:
Edit function has been appearing and disappearing in some mixed-up and spotty way. I would change to another edit plug-in, but I haven’t found a good one yet. So for now I’m keeping this one.
@Frederick
The anthropologists you cite do not disagree with me, but with the conclusive finding of the Human Genome Project.
DNA studies do not indicate that separate classifiable subspecies (races) exist within modern humans. While different genes for physical traits such as skin and hair color can be identified between individuals, no consistent patterns of genes across the human genome exist to distinguish one race from another. There also is no genetic basis for divisions of human ethnicity. People who have lived in the same geographic region for many generations may have some alleles in common, but no allele will be found in all members of one population and in no members of any other.
https://web.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/minorities.shtml
See also
http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/texis.cgi/web/vortex/display?
slug=race11m&date=20010211
Moreover, much of academia has been overrun by post-modernists who are impervious to objective truth, which some of them have also labeled a “tool of white supremacy”. The findings of the Human Genome Project are an inconvenient truth they chose to ignore.
Maybe elsewhere in this universe are intelligent life forms with either subspecies or diverse species that attempt to communicate and litigate with each other. Perhaps that is where racially obsessed post-modernists are headed in future lifetimes on their long slow journey. Having adopted and dearly clung to an ideology that makes no sense, karma may land them in a world with communication barriers that dwarf ours.
@BannedLizard:DNA studies do not indicate that separate classifiable subspecies (races) exist within modern humans.
a) This is not what you claimed above: The Human Genome Project conclusively found that racial subspecies do not exist.
What YOU said is not what that sentence you quoted said. Do you see the difference? It is the difference between “No one has yet found a black swan” and “every single swan that exists has been examined and found to be white.”
b) The sentence DNA studies do not indicate that separate classifiable subspecies (races) exist within modern humans is a classic motte-and-bailey. It depends purely on undefined words that can be changed on the fly depending on how the argument goes.
c) You go on to quote People who have lived in the same geographic region for many generations may have some alleles in common, but no allele will be found in all members of one population and in no members of any other.
That is, of course, a straw man. There is no one in the world who claims that there is any group of humans that have alleles found in no other group of human, and no one who uses the word “race” to mean that.
“Race” as actual humans use the term refers to traits that are highly correlated among people of similar ancestry. For example, if you have spade-shaped teeth, crumbly ear wax, jet black straight hair and epicanthic folds, then your race 99.9% likely to be that of my relatives, just as any child would identify you to be.
Are there white people with jet black hair? Yes. There are white people with epicanthic folds, and white people with spade-shaped teeth, and white people with crumbly ear wax. There are almost no white people with all of these traits and nearly all East Asians have most of them.
I’m afraid you are being misled quite deliberately by people who are very careful to use words in a deceptive way.
Neo,
You seem to have stirred up a hornets’ nest with this posting among a certain segment of the commentors.
Like you, I don’t place very much importance on race. I have lived on five continents and amongst all of the major subgroupings of humans. Skin color is not a reliable indicator of character or ability.
However, I do place importance on culture, at least for a preliminary assessment of a person’s character and abilities. It is not always accurate or fair, but lacking other data, you have to make decisions with the information you have.
I think that the debate about racism in America is often not really about race, but about culture. I don’t think that most people really fear the majority of Americans not being white. But, they do fear losing their culture. They want to think that their values and customs will continue to dominate and they fear being at the mercy of foreign values and customs. Such fears are not entirely irrational.
Unfortunately, a lot of cynical politicians from all the spectrums of the political landscape play on those fears. There are a whole lot of people in the “racism” business who want to stay in business. But, if we insist on using the correct labels in our debates, perhaps we can retire some of the charlatans from the playing field.
@Roy Nathanson:You seem to have stirred up a hornets’ nest with this posting among a certain segment of the commentors.
Certainly. There’s nothing wrong with saying race shouldn’t matter. There’s something very wrong with saying it’s not real–about the same level of wrongness as saying that because you can’t draw a hard and fast line between red and orange, that colors aren’t real, or that “baldness” and “hairiness” aren’t real because the line is arbitrary. Or that height isn’t real because there is no human population for which all members are shorter than every other human found in every other population.
Or equating race with skin color. There are some people who do that, and probably a lot of them are quite hopeless racists, if they think for example that Melanesians and West Africans are the same group of people. There are African Americans who are albinos. If race = skin color, that should be a contradiction in terms. That’s simply not the total of what people mean by “race”.
But for this topic of this thread really doesn’t matter what one believes or doesn’t about the significance or reality of race. The Left redefines it whenever it suits them to do so, in order to defame those who oppose them in their pursuit of power. If I understand them correctly, “race” is a concept concocted by “white” people, who are not a race, in order to oppress other people who “whites” perceive as “not white”. I have seen an Asian academic publicly and in writing accused of “whiteness” in an academic setting by a “non-white” who had a disagreement with the academic’s wife.
According to Wilcox and Price:
A stable marriage matters in part because it allows couples to make decisions over time that maximize the economic prosperity of their family unit.
Stably married persons have incentives to invest in their marriage and benefit from specialization and economies of scale; their households also tend to earn and save more than their peers who are unmarried or divorced.
They argue that because of the economic benefits of marriage, “the more children are born and raised in stable, two-parent families, the more a society should experience economic growth.” To test their theory, they utilized marriage statistics, historical data on children, and gross domestic product (GDP) data from over 90 countries between 1968 and 2014. In a fixed-effects regression analysis, they found a positive relationship between marriage and economic growth around the world.
Specifically:
for every 13-percentage-point increase in the proportion of adults who are married, there was an 8 percent increase in per capita GDP, net of controls for a range of sociodemographic factors. Likewise, every 13 percentage point increase in the proportion of children living in two-parent families is associated with a 16 percent increase in per capita GDP, after controlling for education, urbanization, age, population size, and other factors.
They conclude, “There is clearly a link between family structure and economic growth.”
“But it’s not the main theme of that article, which began with a discussion of the fact that posters going up at various colleges reading “It’s Okay to be White” have been condemned and removed as hate speech”
If the signs were changed to “It’s Okay to hate Whites” they would be welcomed and defended as free speech by the folks condemning the existing signs.
Are there white people with jet black hair? Yes. There are white people with epicanthic folds, and white people with spade-shaped teeth, and white people with crumbly ear wax. There are almost no white people with all of these traits and nearly all East Asians have most of them.
The book, “The 10,000 Year Explosion” makes the point that evolution has continued and environmental factors are active in selecting mutations that affect appearance. As humans moved out of Africa, lighter skin became a significant benefit due to vitamin D absorption by skin. In Asia, the higher the latitude, the lighter the skin. That is not the same as race but there are genetic reasons for some physical traits. The state of Hawaii is suing a drug maker because Polynesians are affected differently by a drug they make.
I tend to believe that Elizabeth Warren probably is part Native American; because according to the family genealogy, so am I (five or six generations back, but still).
And when I’ve had a reason to mention that in a social setting, there was usually at least one other person in the group with a similar family history. In groups of six or more, there was ALWAYS at least on other person with a similar family history.
That doesn’t prove anything, but it suggests that roughly one third of the US population may have Native American ancestors. Elizabeth Warren may well be one of them.
So what ? Culturally, I’m W.A.S.P on one side and Irish-American Catholic on the other. My genetic heritage is an interesting (well, interesting to me) fact, but it has no effect on how I was raised, what I think, or how I behave.
CULTURE matters – “Race” doesn’t.
Planned Parenthood, diversity, and other dysfunctional orientations have clear and progressive consequences.
A Glimpse Into a World Without Men
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/11/a_glimpse_into_a_world_without_men.html
h, to have an all-female workplace, full of sugar and spice and everything nice and absent #MeToo turpitude and transgressions.
Are you in, ladies? Well, before signing on that dotted line, you may want to consider the experiences of the sugar-and-spice girls at Sweden’s new Gender Equality Authority.
Yes, that sounds like what’s birthed when Orwell’s 1984 meets The Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death (Bill Maher’s most memorable movie), but it wasn’t mainly men being consumed in this bureaucracy.
As Sweden’s FriaTider reports (auto-translated and corrected for grammar):
If this surprises you, perhaps you derived your conception of the sexes from a women’s studies class (maybe the one known as modern American culture). Whether it was Aristotle’s observation that women are more likely “to scold and to strike,” Rudyard Kipling’s verse about how “the female of the species is more deadly than the male” or statistics on bullying, it has long been known that the sugar-and-spice bit reflects marketing and male flattery, not reality.
know thyself…
What you wrote is true, but the definition of white seems to be changeable.
Info- aryans are closer to Germans than they are to semites but are classified with orientals.
Most Hispanic are white are were correctly considered white in the past
Etc etc
Predictably, mixed race humans are a growing percentage of the population. Although some choose to identify with one ancestral lineage over the other (Obama for example), others ditch the racial concept altogether. Dumping the concept of race does still leave you with ancestry, which can be plenty meaningful without the racial fiction. There is an endgame to society’s racial albatross, and it is not far off.
Physicists say time is an illusion. It exists for the purpose of spreading out lessons (experiences, stories) of reality for gradual comprehension – ultimately leading to enlightenment. The story of race has taught us something about the mind’s ability to create concepts – true or false – that drastically effect our lives.
The race idea was due to misperception. Nothing good ever came from it. When we throw away our bogus racial labels, we thereby claim responsibility for our actions and empower ourselves with more certain knowledge of our unlimited creative ability.
Banned Lizard:
We’ve had the argument about the nature of the race concept before, on a previous thread or two. I don’t have time to find it now, but it was pretty lengthy. My position is that race has been a convenient but often-misleading label for a set of characteristics that tend to appear in tandem in a population. Very few of those characteristics are unique to that race. There are a few genetic markers that may be more unique, but that’s about it. People used to think that races were more discrete entities than they actually are.
Neo:
It remains to be seen if there is a value to a lesser, faded definition of race that would be useful to reasonable sane people. My abolitionist stance is due to the way SJWs use it, which is as discrete as the KKK. The perniciously emotional version has a gravitational effect that some cannot resist.
@Banned Lizard:My abolitionist stance is due to the way SJWs use it, which is as discrete as the KKK.
You can’t oppose one falsehood with another. That race is not discrete, does not make it less real, just as baldness is real though not discrete, and red and blue are real even though there is such a thing as purple and no one can draw lines between them that aren’t arbitrary.
The SJWs play Calvinball with language anyway. They don’t argue. They just tell you you are wrong.
Physicists say time is an illusion.
No they don’t. They say it’s what a clock measures.
A clock may be useful or not, broken or not, but it’s not an illusion and neither is what it measures.
“…the reality of ethnic intermarriage…” This leaves me wondering how or why we talk of racism and race so much.
“Bullworth” got it right (unfortunate language in that movie). We are so intermingled that it should be a non-issue if we give each generation time. For example, my husband comes strictly from European roots. My mother was born in the US, but both parents were Mexican. My father was from Mexico. So, our sons are mixed heritage. One of my sons married a Hawaiian. The mixing continues. I am blessed enough to be American. I can still be proud of my Mexican heritage, too. It all works and it isn’t racist.
That article in the Washington Post is complete garbage. There is such a thing as race, and race does matter, and to say otherwise would be to ignore all that we know of science, genetics, evolution, history, behavior, and what we can see with our own eyes.
Current estimates are that the USA and Canada will be majority non-white around 2040. This is the case right now in the US with non-white births. Other countries in Europe may possibly become majority non-white within the next 100 years. Consider that as we mark the 100th anniversary of WWI. And watch out for Africa, where that continent’s population may skyrocket due to high fertility rates and large expanses of empty land.
Let us try to avoid misconceptions with these issues, especially as the near-future America will be radically different from how it is now due to mass immigration.
A telling point from the AG article:
“While the origin of the phrase “It’s Okay to be White” allegedly is linked to “white nationalists,” that shouldn’t alter its meaning. You can’t outlaw a reasonable phrase merely because unreasonable people have uttered it. When you do, and make an overwrought fuss every time the phrase is encountered, you are inviting millions also to utter it.”
Inviting backlash is a feature, not a bug.
The goal is to irritate enough white people that more of them do something egregiously stupid, which can serve as a “reason” for more violence from BLM / Antifa type groups.
Again from AG:
“In a society where actual racism is universally condemned and utterly marginalized, new offenses have been invented: micro-aggression, unconscious racism, white privilege. And with the new offenses, new solutions: trigger warnings, safe spaces, speech codes. The new goal? To create a utopian society where equality of outcomes across all races is achieved. That is impossible, which is perhaps the point. No industry wants to solve its reason for existing.”
Roy Nathanson on November 14, 2018 at 3:14 am at 3:14 am said:
“I don’t place very much importance on race. I have lived on five continents and amongst all of the major subgroupings of humans. Skin color is not a reliable indicator of character or ability.
…
I think that the debate about racism in America is often not really about race, but about culture. I don’t think that most people really fear the majority of Americans not being white. But, they do fear losing their culture. They want to think that their values and customs will continue to dominate and they fear being at the mercy of foreign values and customs. Such fears are not entirely irrational.”
“CULTURE matters – “Race” doesn’t.” — richf
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Thomas Sowell wrote an interesting book about the intersection of race and culture in “Black Rednecks and White Liberals” which has an extensive analysis at Hoyt’s blog.
This furor reminds me of the futile attempt by some people, including Hillary — in one of the few instances where she was actually correct — to extend the BLM phrase to “All Lives Matter” and faced vicious backlash.
We seem to have gone backward from MLK’s dream, which a number of people have been noting for the last few years.
https://accordingtohoyt.com/2018/03/02/when-facts-fail-and-knees-jerk-an-introduction-to-thomas-sowells-black-rednecks-white-liberals-by-amanda-s-green/
M J R on November 13, 2018 at 7:52 pm at 7:52 pm said:
Hey, remember George Zimmerman? — the dude who shot Trayvon Martin six(?) years ago . . . he was a “white hispanic”. Seems one’s ethnicity can be very much a function of what fulfills the needs of the mainstream media narrative du jour.
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The flexibility of what constitutes race is one indicator that the leftists are not really serious about racism except as a cudgel to beat conservatives of all ethnicities, and white people of any kind (even other leftists) when it suits their other agendas.
Fredrick:
As I implied above, interbreeding will eventually make the idea of race a historical artifact. Over time, there are numerous other goofy ideas that have and will become mute.
As for the illusion of time, feel free to check the following resources, including the video linked at the bottom from Brian Greene’s four part NOVA series The Fabric of the Cosmos. That episode is particularly apropos, but there are fascinating counterintuitive bits in all about the nature of reality.
https://www.learning-mind.com/illusion-of-time/
https://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-09/book-excerpt-there-no-such-thing-time
http://www.physics-astronomy.com/2016/05/according-to-einstein-time-is-illusion.html
https://www.pbs.org/video/nova-the-fabric-of-the-cosmos-the-illusion-of-time/
How can they continue to carve out preferential treatment for “people of color,” if nearly everyone is mostly “White,” yet qualifies?
Simple. Offer special privileges to “whites” who cheat… e.g., generally, liberals. Cons have too much self-respect to cheat.
In case it’s not obvious, the #1 example of this is the pristine white bitch herself, Elizabeth Warren.
as this author points out, “white” now includes many groups who were “not white” a few decades ago (Jews, southern Europeans, central Europeans).
Yup. I myself am a prime such example. My father is full Italian. My mother, apparently, brought me, in my “swaddling clothes” to show to my Great Grandparents in 1959. My GGF (b. 1870, a textbook example of an “Iowa WASP”), was sitting in his favorite chair, able to see the door, as my GGM opened it. He took one look at my mother, with me in her arms, said (I quote, because, his words, and I think it deserves the effect): “You’re not bringing that nigger baby in this house.” My GGM, apparently unhappy, closed the door in my mother’s face. (He passed away a couple years later, I have no memory of him) I do recall staying with my GGM many times growing up when my GPs were unavailable to babysit for my by-then single mother… I don’t recall any behavior from her that struck me as caring whether or not I was half-Italian.
Trust me, no one not of my GGF’s age, looking at me at any point in my life would EVER even thinkto use that word to apply to me… It’s absurd.
OBloodyHell:
Please see this for my first exposure to the n-word, when it was used to refer to me.
Unlike you, I actually did look like I might be of mixed-race, especially when I was little, and especially in the summertime.
There is likely a threshold greater than Elizabeth Warren but not too high to be considered colored. Barack Obama was only 1/2 black, but nobody considers him mixed-race and he marketed himself as African American (a mighty feet considering his black half was African elite didn’t have much in common with the African American experience).
At the end of the day being a minority means personal goodies for anyone that can justify it, so people will do what they can to identify as such so long as it doesn’t strain incredulity too much. I don’t know exactly where that % is, but I’m guessing it could be roughly summarized as “are you brown enough to pass as nonwhite”.