The attempt to discredit the Nunes memo… — 17 Comments
and distracting gaunntlets have been thrown down
Kennedy to Trump:
‘Build a Wall and My Generation Will Tear It Down’
The substance of the memos will be devasting and no amount of spin will work. The Dems and the FBI spied on the Trump campaign and duped a federal judge to boot.
The other aspect of this was the pointing shaving in the Hillary email investigation. Obstruction of justice. Squeeze Strzok.
I suspect the release of this information will show a lot more corruption and insidious dealings that would not matter at all when Hillary became president except, she didn’t.
I think the Comey release was a whitewash deal to show that the FBI was independent, they were never going after Hillary after she was elected but they were keeping up the ruse of diligent duty and would let everything drift away after she was elected but she wasn’t.
Now, if and when the report is issued, we might get a glimpse of the inside, illegal, actions taken by a number of the establishment in both the judicial and executive branches. We might need to cut some more dead wood off of those branches.
Also, when the FBI says something could compromise national security what the hell are they talking about. We are not at war with anyone, we don’t have any intelligence folks involved here unless they are referring to some Russians who fed this crap to the DNC goobers and those names can be deleted. I doubt if any enemy combatants in countries where we are actively engaged in combat played any part in this trumped up crap.
Jimmy Carter did dismantle a whole lot of our intelligence network during his four years and even caused the death of some of our friends behind the Iron Curtain. I had an older friend from Sweden who had worked with the US against the Germans in WWII and he was dismayed with what had happened to some of his friends in the Eastern countries. That was the real deal so I have no idea what the heck the FBI could be referring to now.
So the FBI says they have grave concerns about the material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy. Okay guys, fill us in.
Republicans never understand the importance of timeliness. The memo might be effectively neutered by the time the GOP gets its act together. It’s just a summary written by a partisan extremist, Nunes, after all. Thanks for the effort anyway Devin.
What is it about the House Oversight Committee? First Jason Chaffetz quits and now Trey Gowdy quits. Chaffetz was OK, but Gowdy seems like a really good guy. Should we conclude that perhaps the Legislature cannot do a legitimate job of oversight?
Did you notice the switch? National security is not a concern. Now it is inaccuracy because of omissions. This, from the bureau that spent the last several years hiding information from Congress. Nunes is right–they would prefer that none of their shenanigans ever saw the light of day. Now they are boo-hooing because they don’t get to tell the story of how they screwed up in their own way.
Sad.
I think you are going to see Gowdy in the DOJ after Trump cleans house. Those careerists in place are terrible.
Sven wrote:
So the FBI says they have grave concerns about the material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy. Okay guys, fill us in.
This is a trap the Deep State is about to fall into along with Adam Schiff. One of the hardest things to do would have been to release the underlying supporting documentation from which the memo was created. However, if you are going to attack the memo on the basis of “omissions”, then you have to support the release of all the supporting material- you can’t have it both ways.
Here’s another “breaking” story about the memo, which should be easily proven one way or the other.
This evening, the Committee Minority discovered that the classified memorandum shared by the Committee Majority with the White House is not, in fact, the same document that Members of the House of Representatives have been reviewing since January 18, 2018 and that the Committee Majority voted on Monday to release to the public, over objections from the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
Here’s an update already — http://theweek.com/speedreads/752381/schiff-nunes-made-material-changes-memo-sent-white-house
“Update 12:50 a.m. ET: A spokemsan for the Intelligence Committee’s GOP majority pushed back on Schiff’s letter, calling Monday’s vote “absolutely procedurally sound” and dismissing the changes as “minor edits … including grammatical fixes and two edits requested by the FBI” and committee Democrats.”
Can we get them to release BOTH memos so we can judge for ourselves?
Powerline blog comments are aboslutely infested with trolls slamming Nunes. As the saying goes when you’re taking a lot of flak it means you are right over the target.
So now we’re supposed to suddenly believe a bunch of people who have been lying to us all along.
But Steve, they’ve been lying to us for all the best, most moral, most ethical reasons.
They’ve been lying to us for OUR sake.
Indeed, they are our moral guardians.
(Put another way, look—just look—at what TRUMP and the GOP and all those deplorables have FORCED them to do! Yes, that “bunch of people” has been making the ultimate sacrifice—lying shamelessly—for the sake of goodness and truth. Because they are the future. Because they are on the “right side of history”….)
So we really oughta give ’em some slack….
Remember the code “302.” Some hints in the media indicate that corruption of the FD-302 reports written by FBI investigators after an interview, will be highlighted in the Nunes memo.
In spite of the fact that small tape recorders have been available since the 70’s, it has been FBI policy until recently, to never record interviews. Even now, recordings are allowed but not required. It is still the 302 that is the core interview record, and it is the agent’s “summary” of the interview. A variety of different summary corruption techniques have been alleged over the decades.
Note: the same crowd that is all too happy to leak and release all sorts of secure and non-public government data, memos, and intelligence, is suddenly super concerned about this Intelligence Committee memo getting out.
Hmmm, why is this situation different…?
Tell a lie often enough and…
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and distracting gaunntlets have been thrown down
Kennedy to Trump:
‘Build a Wall and My Generation Will Tear It Down’
The substance of the memos will be devasting and no amount of spin will work. The Dems and the FBI spied on the Trump campaign and duped a federal judge to boot.
The other aspect of this was the pointing shaving in the Hillary email investigation. Obstruction of justice. Squeeze Strzok.
I suspect the release of this information will show a lot more corruption and insidious dealings that would not matter at all when Hillary became president except, she didn’t.
I think the Comey release was a whitewash deal to show that the FBI was independent, they were never going after Hillary after she was elected but they were keeping up the ruse of diligent duty and would let everything drift away after she was elected but she wasn’t.
Now, if and when the report is issued, we might get a glimpse of the inside, illegal, actions taken by a number of the establishment in both the judicial and executive branches. We might need to cut some more dead wood off of those branches.
Also, when the FBI says something could compromise national security what the hell are they talking about. We are not at war with anyone, we don’t have any intelligence folks involved here unless they are referring to some Russians who fed this crap to the DNC goobers and those names can be deleted. I doubt if any enemy combatants in countries where we are actively engaged in combat played any part in this trumped up crap.
Jimmy Carter did dismantle a whole lot of our intelligence network during his four years and even caused the death of some of our friends behind the Iron Curtain. I had an older friend from Sweden who had worked with the US against the Germans in WWII and he was dismayed with what had happened to some of his friends in the Eastern countries. That was the real deal so I have no idea what the heck the FBI could be referring to now.
So the FBI says they have grave concerns about the material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy. Okay guys, fill us in.
Republicans never understand the importance of timeliness. The memo might be effectively neutered by the time the GOP gets its act together. It’s just a summary written by a partisan extremist, Nunes, after all. Thanks for the effort anyway Devin.
What is it about the House Oversight Committee? First Jason Chaffetz quits and now Trey Gowdy quits. Chaffetz was OK, but Gowdy seems like a really good guy. Should we conclude that perhaps the Legislature cannot do a legitimate job of oversight?
Did you notice the switch? National security is not a concern. Now it is inaccuracy because of omissions. This, from the bureau that spent the last several years hiding information from Congress. Nunes is right–they would prefer that none of their shenanigans ever saw the light of day. Now they are boo-hooing because they don’t get to tell the story of how they screwed up in their own way.
Sad.
I think you are going to see Gowdy in the DOJ after Trump cleans house. Those careerists in place are terrible.
Sven wrote:
This is a trap the Deep State is about to fall into along with Adam Schiff. One of the hardest things to do would have been to release the underlying supporting documentation from which the memo was created. However, if you are going to attack the memo on the basis of “omissions”, then you have to support the release of all the supporting material- you can’t have it both ways.
Here’s another “breaking” story about the memo, which should be easily proven one way or the other.
https://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2018/01/31/breaking-nunes-altered-memo-sending-white-house-review/
In a letter, Rep. Schiff noted:
This evening, the Committee Minority discovered that the classified memorandum shared by the Committee Majority with the White House is not, in fact, the same document that Members of the House of Representatives have been reviewing since January 18, 2018 and that the Committee Majority voted on Monday to release to the public, over objections from the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
Here’s an update already —
http://theweek.com/speedreads/752381/schiff-nunes-made-material-changes-memo-sent-white-house
“Update 12:50 a.m. ET: A spokemsan for the Intelligence Committee’s GOP majority pushed back on Schiff’s letter, calling Monday’s vote “absolutely procedurally sound” and dismissing the changes as “minor edits … including grammatical fixes and two edits requested by the FBI” and committee Democrats.”
Can we get them to release BOTH memos so we can judge for ourselves?
Powerline blog comments are aboslutely infested with trolls slamming Nunes. As the saying goes when you’re taking a lot of flak it means you are right over the target.
So now we’re supposed to suddenly believe a bunch of people who have been lying to us all along.
But Steve, they’ve been lying to us for all the best, most moral, most ethical reasons.
They’ve been lying to us for OUR sake.
Indeed, they are our moral guardians.
(Put another way, look—just look—at what TRUMP and the GOP and all those deplorables have FORCED them to do! Yes, that “bunch of people” has been making the ultimate sacrifice—lying shamelessly—for the sake of goodness and truth. Because they are the future. Because they are on the “right side of history”….)
So we really oughta give ’em some slack….
Remember the code “302.” Some hints in the media indicate that corruption of the FD-302 reports written by FBI investigators after an interview, will be highlighted in the Nunes memo.
In spite of the fact that small tape recorders have been available since the 70’s, it has been FBI policy until recently, to never record interviews. Even now, recordings are allowed but not required. It is still the 302 that is the core interview record, and it is the agent’s “summary” of the interview. A variety of different summary corruption techniques have been alleged over the decades.
Note: the same crowd that is all too happy to leak and release all sorts of secure and non-public government data, memos, and intelligence, is suddenly super concerned about this Intelligence Committee memo getting out.
Hmmm, why is this situation different…?
Tell a lie often enough and…