The quest for knowledge, leftist-style
Not.
This isn’t just a case of political correctness run amok. It’s a case of academic censorship in the name of race redress, and of a purposeful historic revisionism and willful drive towards ignorance.
But isn’t that where the left has always been heading?
The story (no, this is not The Onion, nor does it appear to be “fake news”):
…[S]tudents at a prestigious London university are demanding that figures such as Plato, Descartes and Immanuel Kant should be largely dropped from the curriculum because they are white.
The student union at the School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS) insists that when studying philosophy “the majority of philosophers on our courses” should be from Africa and Asia…
The student union at SOAS, a leading centre for the study of Asia, Africa and the Middle East, stated that “decolonising” the university and “confronting the white institution” is one of its priorities for the academic year.
It said that “white philosophers” should be studied only “if required”, adding that their work should be taught solely from a “critical standpoint”. “
Note that this university is in London. I suggest, if the students really want to make an anti-colonial stand, that they attend a university in some third-world country in Asia, Africa, or the Middle East. My guess is that, not only will they be supporting said countries, but they might find to their surprise that Kant and Plato are actually taught there.
Just a guess. [*see NOTE below]
But such men are part of the tradition of philosophy that belongs to what used to quaintly be called the human race.
The sort of thing going on at SOAS has its roots in the 60s (although the real roots are even earlier), in particular in a crisis at Cornell which I’ve written about several times (see this post especially). The students back then were demanding that courses in areas such as Black Studies be instituted or expanded, and they sometimes used violence to get their way. The guilt-ridden adminstrations mostly capitulated, and so the fields of special studies were born. But what was initially a demand for inclusion of the history of racial minorities has now become a demand for exclusion of members of an influential majority, merely by virtue of race.
[*NOTE: I wrote “just a guess,” but then I decided to look up an example in order to check it out. Sure enough, on my first try (University of Nairobi philosophy department), I struck pay dirt (see this). Most people trying to get a degree in a third-world country aren’t into playing PC games. That’s just a guess, too, but I bet I’m correct.]
@neo-neocon
Usually I don’t agree with you on anything you write, but this time I tend to agree with you and with Power Line who stated http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/01/white-hot-rage-of-the-left.php
“If you don’t want to study Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, Descartes, Spinoza, Locke, Kant, Schopenhauer, Wittgenstein, fine. Don’t. But then don’t pretend that you are studying philosophy.”
The only explanation I can come up with is that the “School of Oriental and African Studies” (SOAS) is just one college, affiliated with the University of London. As a distinct department or college it doesn’t claim nor need to claim to provide a general university’s curriculum. On the contrary, given the research and teaching focus of the SOAS, it may even be prudent to ask the student to spend his not unlimited time of his studies on the issues at hand, i.e., the study of languages, cultures, religions, and philosophies of the geographical areas he chose.
Given that, I can understand when the student union insists that “when studying philosophy ‘the majority of philosophers on our courses’ should be from Africa and Asia.” But that has pretty much nothing to do with “de-colonization” (or other snowflake worries) and all about how to spend the limited time one has.
Personally I doubt that one can understand other cultures’ philosophies and theologies without a prior basic grasp of one’s own intellectual heritage. (In that I would support the teaching staff’s decision to include Western authors as basic requisite.) But given the economic constraints of today’s higher education, decisions with regard to the curriculum need to be made. And with that I can support the suggestion of the student union to increase the amount of material from authors of the respective areas.
Regrettably, the student union seems to confuse two disparate topics. But they’ll learn. That’s why they attend a university. Or so one should hope.
Konrad:
When you write “they’ll learn,” you’re being a lot more optimistic than I am.
It certainly seems that learning is not what they’re after.
I hope the system will right itself.
Time for white, heterosexual males to go on strike for 30 days. Lets see what the world looks like after those 30 days. (This comment is not homophobic, I don’t care what adults do in private. It is not anti-women; my grandmothers, mother, wife, daughter, and granddaughters were/are femals.)
>>”But what was initially a demand for inclusion of the history of racial minorities has now become a demand for exclusion of members of an influential majority, merely by virtue of race.”
That’s the problem with liberals. Every cause is driven by the need to gratify their egos, but their egos are insatiable. There will ALWAYS be a higher bar that must be met, a higher hoop that others must jump through. And still they won’t be satisfied.
Cdrdalamander has many good points on “knowledge, leftist style” that is playing out in Germany.
https://cdrsalamander.blogspot.com/2017/01/germany-is-turning-itself-in-to-what-it.html
There was something I read recently suggesting that liberals–so all academia?– aren’t interested in the study of history or philosophy because the progressive mindset is: been there, done that, who cares about the past, we know best now.
As a revolutionary idea, “Shut up” is pathetic.
Well, as Konrad notes, it is the School of Oriental and African Studies.
I mean, If I went there I’d expect Sun Tzu, Not Machiavelli.
To make matters worse, “de-colinization” is an idea that emerges from Western Philosophy.
I mean, it’s probably most associated with Frantz Fanon, but he’s just applying Marxist class analysis to racism and imperialism…with an added dash of relativism.
I think Allan Bloom called this the Nietzschization of the Left. This probably sounds like word-salad, but I’ll break it down later if anyone is interested.
Dont bother us guys, we are inferior… dont ya know
talk to the harridends and femnazi’s… they took over college and kicked us guys out, and now complain that there isnt guys to marry up to… (and they dont want to marry down)…
The Origins of Political Correctness – Accuracy In Academia
An Accuracy in Academia Address by Bill Lind
https://www.academia.org/the-origins-of-political-correctness/
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Like the plant in little shop of horrors, or black mold, its better if you do something early on!!! but if your the only one trying to do something, the people you try to stimulate to some form of action, before they lose what they are not protecting, will dislike your attempt…
You either leave ppl that dont want to hear it or discuss it alone, or you leave them to their fate – note they will force you to let the bad happen…
even marx said the trick was to stop talking and start acting…
but this was also part of the progressives plan:
and so they took over the schools, prevented the parents, and more… i put up whole lists of relevant stuff way before some item came up that would wake ppl up…
Political correctness – Wikipedia
Early-to-mid 20th century
In the early-to-mid 20th century, the phrase “politically correct” was associated with the dogmatic application of Stalinist doctrine, debated between Communist Party members and American Socialists. This usage referred to the Communist party line, which provided “correct” positions on many political matters. According to American educator Herbert Kohl, writing about debates in New York in the late 1940s and early 1950s,
The term “politically correct” was used disparagingly, to refer to someone whose loyalty to the CP line overrode compassion, and led to bad politics. It was used by Socialists against Communists, and was meant to separate out Socialists who believed in egalitarian moral ideas from dogmatic Communists who would advocate and defend party positions regardless of their moral substance.
– ”Uncommon Differences”, The Lion and the Unicorn Journal
right and left are sovietisms too..
as are other things..
remember we used to make fun of them for thinking the way we do now!!!!!!!!!!!
then……..
in the 1970s, the American New Left began using the term “politically correct”.[32] In the essay The Black Woman: An Anthology (1970), Toni Cade Bambara said that “a man cannot be politically correct and a [male] chauvinist, too.” Thereafter, the term was often used as self-critical satire. Debra L. Shultz said that “throughout the 1970s and 1980s, the New Left, feminists, and progressives… used their term ‘politically correct’ ironically, as a guard against their own orthodoxy in social change efforts.
Bet they dont tell you THAT in the pamplets!!!!!
He literally means separating out the “best and brightest” so that they can be fully indoctrinated progressives who will then go on to be America’s dictators and rulers, or entrenched bureaucrats for life, under the disguise of being democratically elected. That’s how progressives think. They talk a good game because they’re master propagandists, but on substance all progressives fall short of the mark.
The elite sons must be progressives. None can be left behind. There cannot be any of the best and brightest who go over to the other side. The elite sons must worship government. The elite sons must desire never ending expansive government. The elite sons must be fully agenda oriented. The best sons, the most charismatic, the most seemingly trustworthy and outwardly intelligent. All must be captured for the collective.
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they have patience like the people who built cathedrals..
Patience is the progressives most deadly weapon
what does the Bull Moose party platform advocate? The Bull Moosers, the progressive party’s 1912 party platform calls for these following things:
* A National Health Service to include all existing government medical agencies.
* Social insurance, to provide for the elderly, the unemployed, and the disabled
* Limit the ability of judges to order injunctions to limit labor strikes.
* A minimum wage law for women
* An eight-hour workday
* A federal securities commission
* Farm relief
* Workers’ compensation for work-related injuries
* An inheritance tax
did they get it?
You will see much of the modern progressive agenda in this old proclamation, in which they still fight for these things in 2016 – keep in mind this was written in 1912. That’s how patient the progressives are. They plan for longer than their own lifespans. They plan forward for longer than their children’s lifespans.
In Theodore Roosevelt’s time, when the progressives wanted government healthcare, everybody involved with that effort – they’re all dead.
That’s from Stuart Chase, who was an adviser to FDR. He called this “political system x”.
DEATH DOES NOT STOP THE PROGRESSIVES
That’s only a speedbump, an inconvenience, a distraction. That’s a serious amount of patience to have. You may still be thinking that I’m kidding. Ok, check this out.
A man named Hamilton Fish was a close friend with Theodore Roosevelt and a partisan hack progressive back in the day. Hamilton Fish was an actual Bull Mooser.
Hamilton Fish had a son named Hamilton Fish
who in turn also had a son named Hamilton Fish
who finally again, had a son named Hamilton Fish
Where is Hamilton Fish today?
Hamilton Fish the fifth is the current publisher of the magazine The New Republic.
go look at valerie jarrets wiki and lineage
go look a ayers…
go look at any of the people behind the people
then you MIGHT start to understand what your up against, and what is going on in schools..
Those of you who don’t realize that Progressivism is it’s own stand-alone “ism”, will realize how closely this does look like the points in the communist manifesto. That doesn’t make it communist. What it means is that there’s only so many ways that you can be a dictator, there’s only so many ways you can centrally plan society. There’s bound to be some overlap. This is a great example of why I focus somewhat heavily upon Fabianism, because Fabians were always different than Marxists, yet so closely resemble progressives. And Stuart Chase was a Fabian. This is not just some unimportant historical figure. Stuart Chase coined the term “New Deal” and was a part of FDR’s brainstrust. This is a heavy hitter in the history of progressivism.
Socialism without state ownership; by the excessive use of regulation, is called progressivism. In their own words. We should call them by their name. It’s changed, and has gone under changes in the past. The Marxian communists could hardly be called Owenites. Owenism had largely become outdated by that time. Now, it’s regulation. Not socialism. They’ve progressed past state ownership. Yeah, they’ll still do state ownership directly, but they’ve come to realize that they don’t need it anymore. And this is what makes Cass Sunstein the most dangerous man in America. Because he does it all via regulation, instead of direct state ownership, you’ll never see him coming. Why is Obamacare 2800+ pages? It’s all social regulation, for the purpose of changing society. Fundamental transformation, to use Obama’s words.
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and pc is a very big way to get people to toe the line
as it did in russia, and nazi germany..
which is why the people couldnt fight back the way the young here believe they should have and think they would have.
you dont see them fighting much back against pc stuff, do you? well, they are fighting back LESS than the people in germany did, which is why the smart ones ended up leaving if they could… jews and gentiles alike.
right and left are sovietisms too..
It arose during the French Revolution.
I have to assume that much else of what you write is made up too, if you are so blinkered you can’t even get elementary facts right.
Yes, there were “left Communists” and “right Communists”, but left and right were in common use long before that. You might as well say that “tractor” is a Sovietism, given their love affair with them.
I’d read the OA before, and it didn’t strike me as a problem. I’d bet that a lot of ethnic studies curricula don’t have any philosophy courses. They’re studying Africa and Asia, and they want the majority (not all) of the philosophers to be African or Asian. Do you have to read Kant to understand Asia? I’m not even sure that reading Kant helps you to understand Kant.
If I were teaching a philosophy class for the program, I’d want to include Plato and Aristotle, because frankly you can’t even begin to discuss philosophy without them. I’d want Marx, because he’s been influential in the Third World (particularly among the activists and academics). Otherwise? Confucius, Buddha, Avicenna, Averroes, Al-Ghazali, and a little Mao should keep a student busy. (The “African” part is nonsense, though. I can’t think of a single influential African philosopher unless you want to count St. Augustine.)