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Trump the fabulous wheeler-dealer, hirer of the best and smartest people who know how to work the system, whines “It’s unfair!” when he fails to successfully wheel and deal and work the system — 18 Comments

  1. One thing that irritates me is that everyone assumes that the “GOPe” people are very long time members and are corrupt sobs.

    But, based on the grassroots activism that rose up in 2010 – 2014, perhaps a lot of people decided to change from the ground up? There were a lot of “tea party people” who were ridiculed in 2010 and then stopped by a lot of people in 2012 (IRS). Perhaps the people decided that change has to come through the party.

    I’ve said it before in this forum – elect the good people at the city level, get them to go to the state level, then to Congress. I wonder how many of the delegates that are being elected/selected are old timers or fresh new faces?

  2. @liz,

    That’s exactly what a lot of them did. That’s what I did. I see these people at local GOP meetings and although there are some explicit establishment types dedicated to holding office only, there are at least as many citizens who are taking their party back.

    One of the most irritating aspects to Trumpkins and the alt-right is their tendency to jump in front of the parade and act like they were always leading it. They criticize others for being insufficiently dedicated when for years they themselves were nowhere to be found.

    @ neo

    Your link to the Ace story is gone. Maybe he removed the article?

  3. Matt_SE,
    Judging by some of the comments made by avid (or should I say rabid), not only were they no where to be found previously, they don’t seem to have even read news reports. As Eric’s fantastic research has shown, Trump’s remarks on Bush and Iraq should have turned off any knowledgeable person.

  4. Matt_SE,

    I think the so called alt-right are for the most part not conservative. I see them as ‘progressive’ saboteurs.

  5. parker:
    “I think the so called alt-right are for the most part not conservative.”

    Yep. Their othering conservatives as “cuckservative” is a pretty good indicator they’re not conservative.

    Alt-Right activists have targeted conservatives for displacement modeled on the Left activist displacement of liberals.

  6. Eric,

    Since you agree with my assessment, perhaps you might tell us who you think who/what are the alt-right. Meanwhile, its my turn to prepare dinner. On tonight’s menu is eggplant roasted with a miso glaze, homemade bread toasted in the broiler with a brie topping, and a salad of dandelion greens dizzled with olive oil and balsamic vinegar. (Not bad for a farm boy.)

  7. expat:
    “As Eric’s fantastic research has shown, Trump’s remarks on Bush and Iraq should have turned off any knowledgeable person.”

    Thanks.

    It’s a stark example of the Narrative contest for the zeitgeist of the activist game, where narrative is elective truth and the actual truth is just a narrative that must be competed for like any other in the arena.

    Not to dull your praise or self-deprecate, but the primary sources of the mission are easily accessed on-line and readily understandable for any smart HS graduate. The Gulf War ceasefire enforcement versus “Iraq’s intransigence” (Clinton) had been headline-news current event for over a decade leading up to OIF, the defining US-led international enforcement of the post-Cold War. In Saddam’s “final opportunity to comply” (UNSCR 1441), Iraq was evidentially in material breach across the board of the “governing standard of Iraqi compliance” (UNSCR 1441), including and especially the (WMD) disarmament, terrorism, and humanitarian ceasefire mandates.

    On the law and the facts, President Bush’s decision for Operation Iraqi Freedom was correct.

    In other words, the grounds for the Iraq intervention are straightforward and the why of OIF shouldn’t have been misunderstood in the 1st place. Yet the prevailing conception of OIF, including for many ostensible OIF supporters, is a demonstrably false narrative.

    It goes to show, if the why of OIF can be mischaracterized in the public discourse, then in the Narrative contest for the zeitgeist, any issue is up for grabs.

    The amoral competition of the Narrative contest for the zeitgeist is exemplified by factions like the Democrat-front Left and the Trump-front alt-Right, not to mention foreign competitors like Russia, that propagate and refresh the demonstrably false narrative of OIF as a cornerstone linchpin premise of their anti-GOP (and/or anti-American) strategy.

    The competition’s success in doing so highlights the competitive weakness of Republicans that they’ve chosen to (pathetically and guiltily) skirt the Iraq controversy despite the strategic importance of the prevailing false narrative of OIF for their competition and that Republicans could attack it armed with a straightforward set of law, policy, and facts to set the record straight.

    The better strategy for the GOP in the Narrative contest for the zeitgeist would be to vigorously re-litigate the Iraq issue in order to re-lay the foundation of the public discourse, and with the cornerstone linchpin premise switched, relentlessly move on that basis to discredit any competition, at home or abroad, that has utilized the demonstrably false narrative of OIF.

  8. parker,

    You should ask Ymarsakar, who has answered that question in comments here.

    What catches my attention about the alt-Right is their consistency with Russian propaganda about the American role in the world.

  9. Eric Says:
    April 12th, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    parker,

    You should ask Ymarsakar, who has answered that question in comments here.

    What catches my attention about the alt-Right is their consistency with Russian propaganda about the American role in the world.

    &&&

    I sense the SVR — and Active Measures — no doubt.

    BTW, the very term “cuckservatives” refers to the stated opinion that ‘National Review Republicans’ et. al. are not ‘race realists’ and that they are selling the White race’s birthright down the toilet.

    You might note that that theme is congruent with Putin’s personal ‘race realist’ point of view.

    So both Heartiste and Putin want Whites to stop destroying Paternal Society — and denigrate homosexuals — and fat ugly, unwomanly sluts.

    Like Alex Jones and Zero Hedge, these give off every appearance of being SVR ( nee KGB ) Active Measures web fronts.

    One might note that Alex Jones espouses paranoia.

    Zero Hedge espouses nihilism in the financial markets — and in societal themes, more generally.

    Not one of these sites permits// advocates an anti-Putin stance.

    Zero Hedge never critiques the economies or grand politics of Iran, Russia or Red China.

  10. I don’t see the alt-right as a movement that was purposefully spawned, although I agree that occasionally (and depending on the site) that “active measures” agents deploy agitprop to keep the churn up. I think it was a bunch of people originally inclined to the political right who were socially liberal (at least in a few ways).
    They fell into cynicism from both fronts, as on the one hand their fiscal conservatism was betrayed by the Republicans, and on the other hand their progressive social outlook was inherently self-contradictory and just collapsed in on itself like it always does.

    They are cynics. I’ve said it a dozen times.
    They often are sneering atheists, and are aggressive with their disdain. They think everyone in politics is corrupt. They don’t talk about building anything because they have no hope. They only talk about destroying and punishing their enemies. They are prone to paranoia and conspiracy theories when simpler explanations would suffice. They often use this paranoia to justify their actions, which are as amoral and degenerate as those of the progressive left.

    I would guess they have very little reason to live, and no cause they would die for.

  11. Regarding Trump’s charitable donations: he reportedly gave away very little of the money to the veterans groups he said he was going to help. You remember, that time he didn’t debate in Iowa. So he could raise money and keep most of for himself.

  12. Matt_SE

    But that’s how Active Measures ALWAYS worked.

    The KGB // nee SVR look for nihilist surfers and amplify their waves.

    Active Measures has always been about signal amplification in the body politic.

    Its primary themes at all times:

    Paranoia — domestically
    Nihilism — domestically
    Exposing corruption of orthodox politicians
    Critical theory — attacking orthodoxy at a primal level
    Anti-paranoia WRT Russia
    Anti-nihilism WRT Russia
    Racial division — domestically
    Slavic virtues — WRT Russia — as in White Russians

    When you see this agtiprop set trumpeted from any propaganda monastery — figure it to be riven with Russian Active Measures media troopers of the First Directorate.

  13. KLSmith Says at 1:17 am
    “Regarding Trump’s charitable donations: he reportedly gave away very little of the money to the veterans groups he said he was going to help.”

    I’ve heard that claim before and believe it is probably true but I haven’t fond a link to a reliable source on the issue.

  14. Dennis:

    Here are some links and quotes about the money Trump raised for the veterans, and where it is now—

    This:

    A veterans advocacy group [22Kill] that received $200,000 from presidential candidate Donald Trump’s January fundraiser said the move was a huge boost for their organization, even if the money brought with it a rash of confusion and criticism….

    Trump’s campaign still has not fully accounted for the $6 million officials claim was raised at the Iowa event, organized as a protest to Fox News’ choice of moderators for a debate scheduled the same evening.

    Only a few of the 22 organizations originally listed as beneficiaries of the event have publicly reported receiving donations, and several others have expressed concerns that money being offered has been tied to campaign appearances and events.

    Trump campaign officials have offered no response to repeated inquiries by Military Times about future distribution of the money.

    This:

    More than two months after Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump held a fundraiser for veterans, the beneficiaries of the funds have only been given “a fraction of the promised money,” according to an investigation by The Wall Street Journal.

    Trump skipped a Republican debate on Fox News prior to the Iowa caucus after claiming moderator Megyn Kelly was “biased” against him. Trump opted to hold the fundraiser instead, and claimed to have raised $6 million for veterans’ charities.

    The Wall Street Journal surveyed the 22 veterans’ groups originally listed by the Trump campaign as beneficiaries. According to the publication’s calculations, 19 of the groups have received only $2.4 million of the reported $6 million raised — less than half of the funds from what the campaign called a “special event.”

  15. The only thing to add (not mentioned specifically), is that Trump at some point bragged how he is a “master” at reading contracts and finding “holes” to exploit, and that is how he would deal with the “poorly negotiated” treaties the US has signed with foreign countries.

    His recent complaints about how the rules are “rigged”, and incurring a loss due to not recognizing those rules and planning accordingly, seems incompatible with the above assertion he made.

    Just piling on, since there are so many implications from / inherent in Trump’s complaints, that they are really what “losers” would do (as Trump would undoubtedly call them, if the shoe was on the other foot).

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