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Is the Gulf oil slick seeping towards the White House? — 25 Comments

  1. Yeah, his lack of leadership is finally catching up to him. The guy’s got no chops, and the left finds the environment sancrosanct, so this oil spill is killing them. Even Bob Herbert of the New York Times, who worships the ground Obama walks on is fed up. It’s pretty interesting. The constant whining of Obama and his inexperience is adding up, and the left is finally figuring it out — the dude’s got no chops! The whining is especially unattractive, and everyone’s getting tired of it. The rest of us realize it’s par for the course and expect nothing else from this guy, but the left seems to be waking up and they are not happy. They seem genuinely shocked and surprised at what they are seeing.

  2. I don’t think Obama can stop his blaming and whining. He’s stuck in permanent adolescensce like so many of his supporters who blamed and whined to get him elected.

  3. Well, actually, much of blame on BP appears to be NOT justified – read this post by an industry insider, my online friend Tim Newman.

    As someone called Duffy said in the comments: this factual information about BP actions and efforts has never been presented by our media.

    Hmmm….media distorting and avoiding facts in order to paint the picture most pleasing to Obama…what’s new?

  4. When I hear Obama speak, I always hear this petulant tone.

    His presidency was supposed to be a victory lap. How divine he was… a black president.

    Then… problems! How dare the proles expect him to fix problems! That wasn’t at all what he signed on for.

    Problems are for other people.

    The Great Obama was sent to transform the landscape, lower the oceans and cleanse the air.

    And, then… all those stinking, little problems! How gauche!

  5. Just saw that BHO is going to skip Arlington wreath laying for a vacation in Chicago. I can’t ever remember another president dissing the military on Memorial Day before. But it seems perfectly in character with what everyone above has mentioned.

    Just like my adolescent daughter: “I don’t want to do it, so I won’t!”

  6. I’m not usually open to conspiracy theories, but I’ve been getting more and more bothered that his presidency isn’t so much a victory lap as a stepping stone to President of the World or something. He doesn’t act or think like an American, something he’s proud of. Our problems don’t touch him. He doesn’t revere the things the rest of us do. Memorial Day is no big deal. And all the speeches he and his minions are giving lately talking about the new world order tell me that this guy has other plans.

  7. I agree that an oil company with drilling experience is the correct group to try to resolve the underwater problem. I think the federal government could have been getting prepared during this time to deal with the oil as it got closer to the coast.

    I understand that Bush was calling the LA governor to try to get her to ask for an emergency declaration prior to Katrina. Has Obama done the same for the states that are on the gulf coast? Why haven’t the feds gotten the oil spill stuff purchased and in place along the coast to deal with the oil before it got close to any land?

    From Jindal’s remarks, LA’s request to put sand berms in place to catch the oil is still under review by the Corps of Engineers. So, I’m glad he is going ahead with it, but I would have told the local guys to just do it and not wait.

    I wish them luck with the cleanup.

  8. Comment on the cause of the Deepwater Horizon explosion; there is suspicion that a poor cement job may have been the culprit. A well is seldom drilled as a single unit. Initially a wide diameter hole is drilled and as drilling progresses narrower and narrower holes are used. After each portion of hole a pipe, called casing or liner is installed and cement in place. Bad cement jobs have been noted as the cause of blowouts before. I do not know enough about deep water well drilling or cementing to speculate what went wrong beyond stating that maybe the gas may have traveled up through the bad cement, to the riser (that is a pipe through which the drilling and production pipe is installed) and then to the surface. I am not sure but the gas detectors may only work within the well tubing, in which case they would not have detected any gas.

  9. Tatyana,
    Thanks for those links to Tim Newman’s posts. None of this has been reported by the media, not even Fox.

    Forbes had a good article about the events yesterday and they pointed out that BP has 470 of the best scientists and operators from the global oil industry working 24/7 to try to get this well under control. The government has no comparable expertise when it comes to how to cap or contain the well. They do have some expertise on containment and cleanup. It woulld seem that Obama and company would be putting all their emphasis on that to control the extent of damge from the oil.

    So, BP is the organization with the know how to cap the well. The worst case scenario is they have to drill an intercept well, which will take 3 months. If that is the case then there is going to be a lot of oil relearsed. You would think the government would be mobilizing to protect the shorelines. If BP has over 600 boats and thousands working on containmment and cleanup, that is a lot, but apparently not enough as the oil is has reached sopme coastal areas. Governor Jindal complains about the Corps of Engineers not getting with the program to allow dredging up of sand barriers. If true, that’s an example foot dragging or incompetence by the Feds.

    Something about this seems a bit fishy to me. It has occurred to me that maybe Obama and company want this oil spill to be a stupendous environmental catastrophe. That would ensure (in their minds at least) that the public would demand (and they could comply) absolutely no more offshore drilling. Naw, they wouldn’t be that devious, would they?

  10. Tatyana

    Well, actually, much of blame on BP appears to be NOT justified – read this post by an industry insider, my online friend Tim Newman.

    I beg to differ. BP replaced heavy drilling mud with seawater that was approximately half the density of the drilling mud it replaced BEFORE setting the cement plug on the bottom. That does not correspond with my experience on drilling rigs. You do not replace the heavy mud with much lighter seawater until AFTER the cement plug has been set and hardened.

    From the May 15 WSJ:

    What is known from drilling records and congressional testimony is that after the morning meeting, the crew began preparations to remove from the drill pipe heavy drilling “mud” that provides pressure to keep down any gas, and to replace this mud with lighter seawater.
    Ultimately, the crew removed the mud before setting a final 300-foot cement plug that is typically poured as a last safeguard to prevent combustible gas from rising to the surface. Indeed, they never got the opportunity to set the plug.

    It is tomfoolery to replace dense drilling mud with seawater with about half the density of the mud it replaces, BEFORE you set the cement plug on the bottom. That is an invitation for formation fluids to rush into the wellbore.Which is precisely what occurred. BP did not follow standard operating procedures here. Prudence and caution are in order when dealing with wells.

  11. At this stage I would agree that BP or some combination of oil industry honchos would have better knowledge of how to fix this than some idiot government bureaucrats, but BP also appears to blame for this mess in the first place.

  12. Gringo,
    I’m not an oil engineer and claim no expertise or even basic knowledge of standard practices. You will probably be better served if you debate directly with Tim.
    What I am saying is all this information that Tim provided was not made public here.

    And he also said that BP conduct their own investigation as well as pledged to fully cooperate with the one started by US government – and that at this time any speculation, until completion of investigation appears to be premature.

    My pov- in any engineering event I’d rather trust an expert engineer than a journalists who write about the subject, that’s all.

  13. Tatyana, Tim had a good summary of what had been done AFTER the blowout. I am not going to fault BP on what they have done after the well was lost, nor Tim’s reporting on that. I would also agree with him that we don’t have a complete handle yet on what occurred.

    But that he didn’t catch what the WSJ did about the testimony- the drilling mud being replaced with seawater BEFORE setting the bottom plug- doesn’t speak well of his reporting, nor his engineering. For me, with my engineering experience on drilling rigs, it was a red flag. This ran through my head: what were these IDIOTS thinking?

    As a commenter on aMay 11 WSJ article said, it was like popping the cork on a bottle of champagne.

    I have left a comment on Tim’s thread.

  14. J.J. formerly Jimmy J. Says:
    May 25th, 2010 at 7:04 pm

    Something about this seems a bit fishy to me. It has occurred to me that maybe Obama and company want this oil spill to be a stupendous environmental catastrophe. That would ensure (in their minds at least) that the public would demand (and they could comply) absolutely no more offshore drilling. Naw, they wouldn’t be that devious, would they?

    I think we all know that sooner or later Obama will make a move to nationalize the energy industry. It’s what Communist dictators do. Always. Every time.

    I’ve assumed that that was on the back burner for now. There are other, more urgent priorities such as amnesty and cap & trade. But this oil spill may turn out to be a crisis that is just too good to waste.

  15. Someone should remind Obama of what he said earlier about health care: He doesn’t care who made the mess, just shut up, get out of the way, and he’ll be the one to clean it up.

    Where’s that same “roll-up-the-sleeves-can-do spirit?

    I’d love to see Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman or Jan Brewer question him on that. I have a hunch his oh-so-thin skin would be even thinner given it was “girls” putting him on the fly.

    Sooner or later, something is going to drop. You don’t put that many irons up in the air and juggle them forever. Will it be BP? Blago? Iran? Something old or something new?

  16. “Seeping towards the Whitehouse”

    Any allusion to “slouches towards Bethlehem?”

  17. We’re seeing yet another example of why the noses of the so-called “press” are so brown — Bush, in accordance with the law, waited for requests for assistance from the Gulf state governors during Katrina, and is excoriated by the “press” for not sending aid to Louisiana anyway, when its governor was too paralyzed to do anything. Barry, on the other hand, did almost nothing for the first days about a problem which was COMPLETELY under federal jurisdiction, and the “press” says nothing.

  18. Gringo,

    Halliburton mentioned not setting the final cement plug in their testimony:

    We understand that the drilling contractor then proceeded to displace the riser with seawater prior to the planned placement of the final cement plug, which would have been installed inside the production string
    and enabled the planned temporary abandonment of the well. Prior to the point in the well construction
    plan that the Halliburton personnel would have set the final cement plug, the catastrophic incident
    occurred. As a result, the final cement plug was never set.

    Halliburton is confident that the cementing work on the Mississippi Canyon 252 well was completed in
    accordance with the requirements of the well owner’s well construction plan.

    This would suggest that BP’s well construction plan was being followed. So was the plan wrong? I am hopelessly out of my depth when it comes to the technicalities of drilling and if you have some experience in this area I’ll defer to you without question. But personally, I doubt it the plan was so fundamentally wrong. I’ve seen people deviate from procedures countless times, it is much rarer that I’ve seen an established procedure be wrong in such a manner. Perhaps the plan itself deviated from standard drilling practices, but again, I think it unlikely given how many wells would have been drilled under the same sort of plan. Certainly, Halliburton never mentioned in their testimony that what they were instructed to do was fundamentally wrong, but perhaps that was not the time and place to do so.

    Why I haven’t been paying much attention to the MSM during this incident is because they seem to leap to conclusions: the WSJ article has assumed not setting the final cement plug was a major error, whereas Halliburton has not stated this in their testimony (for whatever reason). I’m trying to go off the industry sources rather than journalists.

  19. Tim Newman:

    Why I haven’t been paying much attention to the MSM during this incident is because they seem to leap to conclusions.

    Given how the MSM operates overall, I would tend to agree with you. However, the WSJ is more reliable than most.

    the WSJ article has assumed not setting the final cement plug was a major error

    That is a misreading of the article. A major error appears to be replacing the dense drilling mud with seawater , which was approximately half the density of the drilling mud, BEFORE the final cement plug was set. Once the kick and then blowout occurred, it was impossible to set the final cement plug.

    See my previous statements.

    I’m trying to go off the industry sources rather than journalists.

    The WSJ May 11 uses industry sources. Here are a petroleum engineering professor and a rig hand, who from different vantage points, reach the same conclusions.

    The plug is normally put in before the mud is removed, but according to the account of Halliburton, Transocean and the two workers, in this case, that wasn’t done–drilling mud was removed before a final cement plug was placed in the well.
    “We understand that the drilling contractor then proceeded to displace the riser with seawater prior to the planned placement of the final cement plug…,” Mr. Probert [Halliburton] says in the prepared testimony, which was reviewed by The Wall Street Journal. The “riser” is part of the pipe running from the sea floor up to the drilling rig at the surface.
    Lloyd Heinze, chairman of the petroleum engineering department at Texas Tech University, agrees that this is an unusual approach. “Normally, you would not evacuate the riser until you were done with the last plug at the sea floor,” he said in an interview.
    A worker who was on the drilling rig said in an interview that Halliburton was getting ready to set a final cement plug at 8,000 feet below the rig when workers received other instructions. “Usually we set the cement plug at that point and let it set for six hours, then displace the well,” said the worker, meaning take out the mud.

    Here are two industry sources who agree that displacing the dense drilling mud with seawater before setting the bottom plug was not standard operating procedure.

    Regarding why they did it this way, and specifically who made the decision, is yet to be determined.

    Halliburton is simply covering itself, to point out that it did what BP told it to do, so it was a dutiful contractor.

  20. Gringo,

    Interesting stuff, indeed. As somebody who is not so familiar with the drilling procedures, I didn’t spot that Halliburton’s testimony alluded to such an error on the part of the well construction plan. I am surprised nobody else has picked this up, because this is as close as we’ve got to a root cause. I am guessing there are people who know but are either keeping their mouths shut (it not being their place to speak up), or they are waiting for the right time and place before committing themselves. Still, I’m surprised the industry journals and web forums aren’t all over this.

  21. I was listening to an engineer while going to work yesterday who said simply that nothing would stop this oil leak. BP really messed up here and the administration needs to focus on stopping this or the whole coastline will be lost. I doubt this top kill strategy will work but we’ll see. It has never been tried at these depths before. They’re just experimenting now.

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  23. rickly says,
    “But this oil spill may turn out to be a crisis that is just too good to waste.”

    Sure fits the MO doesn’t it?

    Trouble is, people along the coasts don’t care whose fault it is that the well blew out. What they want is action on containment and cleanup. Obama and company seem clueless about how their lack of leadership on that issue is going to hurt them.

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