1. Excellent article, as usual neo.

   I would disagree with the view of the effort to “pack” the courts as being unsuccessful, however.

   I guess it’s correct that he failed to pack the court in one move and was unable to increase the number of justices to his liking, but it cannot be argued that he didn’t influence a major shift in how the courts viewed cases before them, and he definitely changed the court over a period of years as he eventually appointed at least 9 justices to the SCOTUS.

   I’m kind of inclined to view this as still packing the court, even if he did it over a period of years.

   It’s clear those judges influenced the US legal system for decades after their terms ended, thereby extending FDR’s socialist reach into future decades long after he was moldering in the grave.

   Those justices are the kinds that gave us cases such as the 1938 case of US vs Miller, who was charged with violating the 1934 NFA – it was basically set up so only the US attorneys were initially present to argue the case.

   Then there was the 1942 case of Wickard v. Filburn, which pretty much gave the federal government power to regulate, well – everything.

   After a few years, the courts appear to have simply become a rubber stamp for his policies.

   Actions that previously had been struck down, sometimes with only the flimsiest of modifications suddenly passed constitutional muster, with certain justices seemingly reversing their own legal philosophies in the process.

   You can follow the trend of judges of a certain (left leaning) mindset ruling in a certain way – consistent with how FDR got the ball rolling as long ago as the 1930’s – up to recent history in Kelo Vs City of New London in 2005.

   FDR was definitely the gift that kept on giving, and it will take decades more to undo the damage he caused.

   When we have overwhelming numbers of judges at all levels of the system that rule differently in cases like Kelo, then I’ll start to think we’ve begun to undo the harm.

   In reading through the speech, the line that jumped out at me more than any other was this:

   “In the last four years the sound rule of giving statutes the benefit of all reasonable doubt has been cast aside. The Court has been acting not as a judicial body, but as a policymaking body.”

   That’s kind of what we actually ended up with, with certain justices dwelling on penumbras and such…..

   It’s interesting that when FDR was elected, we still had a court system that would reign in the other two branches of government, but as a result of his “progressive” appointments, we ended up with a judicial branch more inclined to give the government power at the expense of the people.

   Exactly how was that progress????

2. Scottie: FDR influenced the Court because he got to appoint a lot of judges, and he got to appoint a lot of judges because he was in office so long. No violation of the constitution or change to the constitution or granting of extraordinary executive powers was required for that, however. All he did was violate the two-term tradition.

3. Excellent article, as usual neo.

   I would disagree with the view of the effort to “pack” the courts as being unsuccessful, however.
   

   same here.

   in our world, we like to win, see the score, go home. in many other games, its not that way.

   so a communist who fails to make the country communist in one move, is not a failure given all the other things that remained.

   so he didnt succeed in stacking the court, he also didnt use purges to make changes, or else he would ahve. took 40 more years till they did it, an now its a done deal.

   obama celebrates this by using a similar socialist eagle symbol on his stuff. that is, anyone remember the NRA and it blue eagle?

   well they threw out the nira and nra, but what stayes was the right to collectively organize.

   and so once again, obama is using the blue eagle.

   do we realize that all this is pushed by similar stuff, and some of it not good from that era?

   before i point a few things out, have some fun watching video from that era. (well video now).
   [jimmy durante fans might not be happy]

   and see how the most favored actors tried to move people along. however look at the spin. he sees a banker, and rather than hit the banker for having so much money, he wants the banker to hire a chauffer (which later would be used agisnt bankers!).

   ya have to see the doctor for all you got, and that way end unemployment…

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJTxhz2dBCk&feature=player_embedded

   Rise and Fall of the National Industrial Recovery Act
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xjosM-KEvk&feature=related

   New Deal Rhythm ~ 1933
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51eciDV0H70&NR=1

   the second one shows how much symbolism is critical to pushing things… even with todays leftists!!! even though everyone says symbolism doens tmatter. notice the soviet realism breaking away to the all american dancers.

   and obama has many of the same goals if one looks to his Ceasars… i mean Czars. they are starting with the salaries most like to hate, like wallstreet… (even though they just gave themselves and their politicos raises).

   and the pay czar? Kenneth Feinberg… thats like the setting of salaries during the NRA… but rather than do it with a big law taht can be thrown out, this time they are doing it with appointments.

   after all, when he is done with wall street and car industry. then what? he will go home like george washington?

   has anyone looked at the new healthcare logo?
   http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/files/obama-health-care-logo-1.jpg

   http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/files/obama-health-care-logo-2_349x234.jpg

   and of course his obama symbol and sco symbol too.

   but for our talks, we are interested in a blue eagle.

   here is the obama blue eagle that he is using for debunking things.

   my.barackobama.com/page/content/settingtherecord

   however, more interesting is the symbolism.

   take a look at it… the american eagle is in a pose in which it looks like it was just shot through the heart.

   the olives are gone, and he is now holding 5 arrows not the 13 arrows our american eagle holds. this represents the 13 colonies.

   however, there IS a symbol that uses 5 arrows.
   de.academic.ru/pictures/dewiki/70/Falange_espanola_Yugo_y_flechas.jpg

   that is the fascist falange…

   so symbolism is VERY important. which is why the left came running to help like circus workers responding to a cry of hey rube…

   i ahve to go… but there is tons more ..

   and no other president and such has so many links going back to things and sumbols than obama to the past of the US, russia, and other places.

   “The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist.” — Sir Winston Churchill

4. I read Amity Shlae’s book The Forgotten Man. She makes a point that many of the New Deal programs backfired, but she also made the point that many of the banking reforms actually helped stabilize the economy.

5. Right on the money, literally; Obama and company are setting the stage for a fiscal catastrophe. We may only be at the tipping point now, but add in massively expensive health care reform in combination with the cap and trade environmental package, in combination with higher taxes that wreck, particularly, small and medium sized business, exacerbating private sector unempoyment; when serious inflation finally rears its ugly head, and an international community refuses to buy American junk bonds, as well as recognizing their opportunity to step in and fill the “power vacuum”… a bit more propaganda, a little more voter registration fraud, securing the Democrats effectively unopposed in the legislature, as well as the courts, the recipe for an executive seizure of power which squelches freedom of the press and airways… at that point the only difference between any garden variety communist “democratic” facade and America’s Democratic Party will be in name only…

6. As those who have been reading posts here for the last year or more know, I have been extraordinarily skeptical and wary of Obama.

   I have been saying–early and often–that Obama & Co.’s entire program of steps to “fix our financial crisis” and other Obama & Co. identified “crises” in Health Care and Energy, indeed, all his appointments, his legislative and regulatory proposals and actions–using all the avenues available to government to gain control over the Census and, thus, the apportionment of Congressional Districts, voting power in Congress, election results, and distribution of government funds to the States, gain control over the flow and content of Information, gain control of our Economy and Money Supply, over Health Care and Energy, to use “Volunteerism” and the creation of many new “Public service Organizations” to create a “Civilian National Security Force” composed of “mass” or “people’s organizations”–and to legislate, regulate, and coerce in all aspects of our lives–really have almost nothing to do with trying to fix our problems but have everything to do with a grand scheme to take all power and control away from individuals and the States and give it to Obama & Co. and the Executive Branch, to “smash the Capitalist system,” narrow, pick off–one by one–and, then, crush our Freedoms, and frog march us towards some American form of Socialism/Fascism/Marxism.

   I had very much hoped to be wrong in my evaluation, but the accumulating evidence–not suppositions, but concrete evidence of statements and appointments made, steps taken, legislation proposed and regulatory actions started–make me more convinced than ever that my analysis is, unfortunately, correct.

   Fox’s Glenn Beck, for all of his over-emoting and clownishness, is the only significant public figure I see who is trying, in a major way, to do the hard and increasingly dangerous work of trying to put the pieces together; and as he is putting them together, they are starting to reveal the very picture I sketched out above.

   Today Beck started a week of shows devoted to Obama & Co.’s attacks on our Freedom of Speech, which I urge everyone to watch. He also highlighted troubling news about an oblique attack on gun ownership, via an announced study by the CDC to measure the “health consequences” of gun ownership. Given that regulatory Czar, Cass Sunstein, is fond of “nudging” people to change their behaviors via various penalties, it is not hard to imagine–as does Beck–the government not directly banning or confiscating guns, but using an oblique approach by imposing major penalties–say, for instance, a huge increase in health insurance premiums–on gun owners, because their gun ownership is a “health hazard.”

   Be extraordinarily vigilant. Hold tight to and zealously defend all of your Freedoms and your Liberty.

   Go on the offensive; get politically active, support and work diligently to get candidates who hold your beliefs elected and those who don’t defeated, get on the phone, visit Congressional Offices, join in protests, marches and demonstrations.

   Defend each and every one of your Rights and Freedoms with all your might, because–whether you realize it or not yet–they are under increasingly heavy attack from all sides–both open and covert, both frontal and oblique.

7. Terrye-
   And your point is what?

8. Treaties people…..treaties. Thats how we may very well loose it…….

9. The Executive can say- “we are only enforcing this part of the treaty”…”this world court ruled this and my hands are tied…”

   Bush tried to stop that Mexican criminal from being executed in Texas due to some such non- sense. Got overruled…. but still.

   Everyone else was about to become second class citizens to the illegals in another way. US citizen commit murder in Texas- possible Death Penalty. Mexican (of which there are now millions in Texas) commit murder- no death penalty.

10. but…. we’re not absent of war…

11. Treaties are supposed to have the advice and consent of the Senate. I can see that Czars are a way of getting around Senate confirmation proceedings, but how does Obama plan to get around the advise and consent provisions of the Constitution for ttreaties? F

12. Scottie’s view that it will take decades more to undo FDR’s damage must be countered. We’ve had >60 years for undoing. Undone? Nothing. Zip. Nada.

    It ain’t gonna happen. Not as long as Baraq and his minions have the chance to bring FDR’s infant up to full-grown tyranny. It will take blood in the streets; Artfldgr’s concerns about emergency powers and detention camps for us RFRs are not misguided.

    F: you really think the Dems in the Senate will oppose Baraq on anything??That’s the triumph of hope over reality.

13. neo,

    Agreed, he did place the judges he wanted into position using the US Constitution and it’s provisions.

    It’s not an unusual feat for leftists to use constitutional and *democratic* provisions of government to attain power – it’s just in the long run they seem to then want to hold onto it forever to remake the world into the place they want it to be – which is basically what FDR managed to do in large part.

    And you are also correct in that he seated these judges over a period of many years.

    Still, the end result was a judicial branch packed with his appointments, exercising the power of the judiciary to further the social and political aims of the executive branch – and in far too many cases not providing enough restriction on the expanding power of the federal government.

    So to my way of thinking, he still ended up packing the court….

14. Correction to my post above: It was the CDC that was banned by Congress some 13 years ago from doing such studies of the health effects of gun ownership, and the NIH that announced that it will now conduct such studies again.

15. He did get administrative law thing going… I can’t recall the name of the act of congress used but it was basically a defacto amending of the constitution (with this bolted onto it).

    Keep in mind; the administrative agencies continue to grow in power…

16. F,
    I wasn’t saying that Obama or any other president might try to get around the advice and consent of the Senate for Treaties. What I was, not so well implying, was that treaties themselves might tear apart our Constitutional protections. These Treaties may subjugate the US to decisions may by various international bodies that could go their own route over time…

    http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/196/32085/

17. Tom,

    It took decades for us to arrive where we stand now, it will take decades for us to reverse the damage.

    It’s not entirely accurate to say we have accomplished nothing. Look at US vs Lopez (1995) and the more recent DC vs Heller (2008) decisions.

    While both deal with a very narrow interest, the implications of those decisions goes far beyond the subject of the rulings – those decisions specifically state that the government is exceeding it’s authority under our Constitution and then rolls the government back.

    Small steps…..small steps…..

18. this is an interesting article that is related to FDR and his communism…

    To Russia with love
    By LOU LUMENICK
    http://www.nypost.com/f/print/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/to_russia_with_love_AxrAro9Hl7Ue6h7X9UWGtJ

    On Christmas Eve, 1942, screenwriter Howard Koch was packing for a trip to New York when he received an urgent summons to meet with his bosses, Warner Bros. founders Harry and Jack Warner.

    After thanking Koch for his contributions to “Casablanca,” which had opened a month earlier, the moguls ordered a reluctant Koch, as his patriotic duty, to whip out a script for an unusual pro-Soviet propaganda epic to be directed by “Casablanca” helmer Michael Curtiz.
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

    Most remarkably, the film Jack Warner would call the only one he ever regretted making – after a grilling before the House Un-American Activities Committee that sent Koch into blacklisted exile – was personally commissioned by the President of the United States, who asked Warner Bros. to make it as part of Hollywood’s efforts to whip Americans into a patriotic frenzy during World War II.

    “President Roosevelt himself asked Harry and Jack Warner to assist in educating, entertaining and enlightening the American people,” says Harry’s granddaughter, film historian Cass Warner. “Little was known about the Soviet Union, who were our allies at the time, [but] this never came to the forefront even when the film was used as evidence of the Bros. making subversive films during the McCarthy Era.”

    Americans in late 1942 still deeply distrusted the Soviets, who had joined World War II on the Allied side after earlier entering into a non-aggression pact with Hitler. Hollywood’s depiction of the USSR up to that point was mostly unsympathetic; Greta Garbo, playing a commissar in “Ninotchka” (1939), quipped there would be “fewer but better Russians” following Stalin’s notorious purge trials.

    With the administration’s encouragement, Hollywood quickly began praising Russian soldiers and brave peasants facing down the Nazis in films like “The North Star,” written by Lillian Hellman, and the musical “Song of Russia.”

    But the Warners took this wartime love-fest to delirious heights of insanity with the lavish “Mission to Moscow,” which incredibly arrived in theaters just four months after Koch was summoned by the Warners. Koch very loosely based his script on the memoirs of Joseph E. Davies, an FDR pal who had served as the US ambassador to the USSR in the late 1930s.

    “Mr. Stalin, history will remember you as a great leader,” Davies tells a grandfatherly, benevolent Stalin, played by Manart Kippen, one of an army of character actors chosen for their resemblance to real-life figures.

    Davies, a wealthy corporate lawyer married at the time to cereal heiress Marjorie Merriweather Post (Eleanor Parker), the richest woman in the US, is played by Walter Huston, a distinguished actor associated with all-American roles. He had the title part in D.W. Griffith’s “Abraham Lincoln” (1930) and the year before “Moscow” was Oscar nominated as James Cagney’s father in “Yankee Doodle Dandy.”

    Depicted as the epitome of a capitalist, Davies at one point waves away concerns about Communism.

    “How they keep their house is none of our business,” he tells a crowd in Madison Square Garden. “I’m concerned with what kind of neighbor they’ll be in case of a fire.”
    

    so we have another friend of FDR that was a big time communist. we also had a communist spy at the federal reserve. and columbia college in ny was like a den of them.

    harry hopkins was a spy… he was FDRs closest advisor. wittiker chambers, and tons of others.

    have to go, so i kept it short

19. “harry hopkins was a spy.” Maybe, but doubtful. Roosevelt was the father of the Democratic Party’s transition from a mainly race segregationist agenda to a big government “redistributionist” agenda, by taking advantage of the depression to garner the support of the masses; both to genuinely help the poor, but also to empower the party by changing its major focus, thereby expanding its power base. Roosevelt, from a wealthy background, typical of many current Democrats, was as much motivated by his own political power ambitions and legacy as goodwill for the nation. But Roosevelt was no Obama, events, history and associations weren’t yet clarified in the way that we understand them today, enough to legitimately infer treasonous motives to too many in the President’s inner circle, in the same myriad of ways that the shoe fits with Obama.
    http://goodspeedupdate.com/2006/1963

20. “Communism is the greatest threat to this country and Roosevelt helped put it there.” –Senator Burton K. Wheeler (D-MT) in letter to John M. Gizzi, October 23, 1969 (From the Wheeler Papers, Montana Historical Society)

    FDR: “Here is my principle: Taxes shall be levied according to ability to pay. That is the only American principle.” (NOTE: This is a paraphrase of Karl Marx’s Communist maxim, “From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.”)

    You know I am a juggler, and I never let my right hand know what my left hand does. I’m perfectly willing to mislead and tell untruths…FDR, May 1941 (Morgan p 550)…

    FDR broke every campaign promise he had made and the New Deal was exactly the opposite of what he had promised. sound familiar?

    “I propose to you that the government, big and little, be made solvent and that the example be set by the President of the United States and his cabinet…Stop the deficits! Stop the deficits!” FDR
    he also promised:
    “reduce the cost of government operations 25 percent”
    while calling for a sound GOLD currency.

    but what did he do? he created the new deal. went wild with spending money out of the peoples pockets, and implemented the first 12 planks of the socialist party platform

    the new deal WAS the first 12 planks in substance.

    In his first year he proposed spending 10 billion on 3 billion of revenues; from 1933 to 1936 government expenditures went up more than 83 percent. He closed all banks with no intention or thought of ever re-opening them (banks are not needed in Marxist economics). After two years the New Deal was such a failure through waste, mismanagement and outright graft that FDR had to introduce a “New New Deal.” The ND has been called ‘a study in economic confusion.’ FDR undermined the Constitution with blank-check appropriations which allowed him to control spending and blank-check legislation which allowed him to set up agencies to pass laws and regulations.

    does any of this soudn familar?

    probably not. when obama said he was like FDR, we belived he was like the myth of FDR, not the reality. but he meant the reality of him.

    “There is in Chicago and in a very large part of the country, more suffering than there was in 1933 when the President came into office. It is a common sight to see children salvaging food from garbage cans.” Grace Abbott to the DNC

    “Mr. Roosevelt made depression and unemployment a chronic fact in American life.” John L. Lewis…

    When he was elected there were 11,586,000 unemployed and in 1939 – seven years later- there were still 11,369,000 unemployed..

    In 1932 there were 16,620,000 on relief and in 1939 – after seven years – there were 19,648,000 on relief.

    [only the war of the communists, FDR, Hitler, and Stalin… ended it… making poor Churchill the actual odd one out. and he was actually treated like such and even betrayed several times by FDR]

    Every choice made in the New Deal, whether it was one that moved recovery or not, was a choice unerringly true to the essential design of totalitarian government –

    To extend the power of executive government, to rule by decrees and rules and regulations of its own making; between 1933 and 1943 FDR issued 3,556 Executive orders
    To strengthen its hold on the economic life of the nation;
    To extend power over the individual – the domestication of individuality;
    To degrade the parliamentary principle;
    To impair the independent Constitutional judicial power;
    To weaken all other powers – private enterprise and finance, state and local government.
    It is almost amusing that FDR built a cult of personality just as Hitler and Stalin did – it is necessary in a tyranny because in rule by men, loyalty is not to law or country but to a person. Power then depends on such a cult…

    if americans knew their factual history, they would have dumped anyone that said they were like FDR.

    The NRA was a total assault on free enterprise. Industry was to be straight jacketed into government-mandated cartels given the authority to set prices, determine production levels, and regulate the workplace. This was something akin to Mussolini’s fascist corporativism; and expanded executive power at the expense of the Congress and the courts. Democrat Senator Carter Glass denounced the NRA as “the utterly dangerous effort of the federal government at Washington to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this nation.”

    so in essence, there is TONS of stuff to show that obama would want communism with productive ability, and the DNC with their “third way” talk, really wishes to have a fascist totalitarian state. of the kind that hitler had, but with collusion replacing war. [imagine hitler stopped at the point of actual war, what whould have happened]

    his AAA Agricultural Adjustment Administration was ruled unconstitutioal too. though today we still ahve a lot of pieces left over and a lot of the same acts under other things….

    but if the american people cant tell that FDR was from a similar mold as chavez, and hitler, they certainly cant tell that obama is from the same mold too…

    nd so as i said, you have to travel through fascism to get to communism if your not going to have a big violent murderous war.

    obama being a product of this same mode of thinking and its mythologies, sees this as the path.

    and as i said, it has the effect of painting exit on entrances and entrance on exits. as the people protest fascism, they are constructing communism. the left right dichotomy of left is ok, right is bad, gets them to mvoe more left, when they should move more right to stop the slide from minumum state for the people, into a corporatist state (pretending to fight corporations), and then finally a communist state. their idea is that china figured the way, and they can have totalitarianism and productive capacity.

    just treat the few who produce as a goal in itself. and so the rest will work to be able to move from the wilds to the cities of production.

    An excellent analysis of the New Deal with a detailed comparison of it to the 1932 Socialist platform by one of the architects of the New Deal is Paul Warburg’s Hell Bent for Election….

    1938-1939 FDR stated a policy that the Soviet Union could build destroyers in the United States.

    1940 – For the election, FDR repeatedly promised to keep the country out of war and then did everything in his power to involve the country in war. No national leader in history has ever so brazenly lied to his people about such an important national issue: war or peace, life or death.

    until obama

    Roosevelt impressed on his aides about Russia, “we can let them have almost everything they want.”

    [and so obama lets russia have almost everything they want]

    Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes said FDR had a second-class intellect.

    like obama too..

    The President is the poorest administrator I have ever worked under…” Harold Smith, Director of the Budget 1939-1946

    FDR made a point of not reading books and not consulting experts. FDR was full of tall tales about himself, for example that he had been a combatant in WWI when he had actually avoided service. Even FDR’s friends called him mentally light, mendacious, lacking wit, unreliable, petty, vengeful and manipulative. His nicknames were Chief Disorganizer and Chief Manipulator.

    doesnt that sound like obama too?

    “his mind is not very clear, his purposes are not simple, and his methods are not direct.” Walter Lippmann

    “His mind does not follow easily a consecutive train of thought…” Stimson

    Lord Halifax said FDR’s ideas were “pretty inchoate”

    FDR was the first President unable to write his own speeches.…

    FDR used the IRS to investigate his enemies, e.g. Father Coughlin, Rep. Hamilton Fish, publisher Moe Annenberg of the Philadelphia Inquirer and Charles Lindbergh. He also stopped investigations of his friends like Lyndon B. Johnson who had committed tax fraud.

    so Sharpton is the LBJ of obama? 🙂

    FDR requested the FBI files of his political opponents. that is way before nixon, FDR had an enemies list and did not hesitate to use the powers of any branch illegally to destroy, or remove them from being a problem. how many piccadilloes do they have on our press people now?

    FDR abused the Secret Service, having them investigate the source of an unfavorable story in the Wall Street Journal

    FDR used the prestige of the Presidency to enrich his dysfunctional sons through their many shady business deals….

    and it took us frmo that time on, to throw off the crippling weights that regan only did partially!!

    and now we elected another FDR. most of us will be dead before we get out from under this, if we ever do as a pople.

    right now obama is working on the US paying a WORLD TAX…

    FDR was a hard-core Marxist as proved by his speeches – in his first inaugural he proposed 3 planks of the Communist Manifesto.

    In his first inaugural address, he proposed national land redistribution!

    Karl Marx explained his plan to destroy all constitutional government: “The surest way to overturn the social order is to debauch the currency.” FDR carried that out with a vengeance by taking the US off the gold standard and confiscating all gold.

    Through 3 declarations of National emergency – March 1933, September 9, 1939, and May 27, 1941, FDR usurped as much dictatorial power as Hitler had on paper. The first was codified in HR 1491, No. 1 and gave FDR the same powers as in war….

    FDR liked to call himself the Kerensky of the American revolution

    [of course we dont know who karensky is… however theyalways leave out the REAL people that made the revoluition, the latvian rifle corps]

    “The Russian newspapers during the last election (1932) published the photograph of Franklin D. Roosevelt over the caption ‘the first communistic President of the United States’.” — Senator Thomas D. Schall…

    When his Chief of Security Berle brought him information from the Communist courier Whittaker Chambers that there were 2 Soviet spy rings at the highest levels of his administration, naming names like Hiss, White and Silvermaster, FDR told him to “go jump in a lake.” The report was suppressed for years. The KGB archives list 221 agents in the most sensitive sections of the Roosevelt administration in April 1941. There were probably a like number of Soviet military GRU agents.

    The week before the 1944 election, Izvestia wrote “to announce joyfully that Mr. Roosevelt’s return was secure” and predicted an American Reichstag fire…

    i hope that i gave enough information concentrated enough that its tolerable.

    but to know that there is reams and reams and reams more… and that now with archives opened and defectors defected, we know so much more that on top of what is known, is a whole other history that is not known generally…

    [edited for length by neo-neocon]

21. WHY DID FDR WANT WAR?
    Not for moral reasons – Stalin was worse than Hitler.
    Not to defend European democracies – they were flattened years before.
    Not to defend America – we were totally safe.
    Not to defend Britain – FDR was anti-British and didn’t want to get into the war until long after they were safe, had won the air Battle of Britain and Operation Sea Lion, the proposed German invasion, had been canceled.
    FDR became deranged, hysterical and white-hot for war in May 1941 when the Luftwaffe was transferred to the EASTERN Front! FDR was so distraught that he not only totally lost control of his emotions but also control of his body functions- he was bedridden for a month. FDR declared a national emergency and put the country on a war footing. In May, he ordered a 25,000 man Expeditionary Force to be ready to fight anywhere on June 22 – the date he knew Russia was to be invaded! FDR said: “My own thought is that perhaps there is one word that we could use for this war. The word SURVIVAL. The Survival War.” The only country fighting for survival was the Soviet Union. Only FDR wanted it to survive.
    Lenin Lease, unconditional surrender, 2nd front, and Yalta all point to Russia. But by his actions in May 1941 when he knew Russia was to be attacked, Franklin Roosevelt bared to the world the fact that he was Stalin’s agent.

22. 1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

    FDR called for national land redistribution in his 1st inaugural

    2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

    FDR and OBAMA…
    “…the duty rests upon the government to restrict such incomes by very high taxes.” FDR
    FDR imposed a 90 percent rate on corporations and issued a decree that no one could make more than $25,000 after taxes – overridden by Congress

    3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
    1935 Wealth Tax Act with its confiscatory inheritance taxes

    4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
    117,000 Americans of Japanese descent 1941 which the ACLU calls “the worst single wholesale violation of civil rights of American citizens in our history.” FDR wanted to put ethnic Germans in concentration camps too, but there were too many

    [so if you include FDR, you get every communist creates gulags of a sort.. hitler did, lenin did, stalin did, mao did, pol pot did, fdr did.

    but we think obama wont… even though they are already built, manned, and the laws have been set up to actualize them.

    5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
    Banking Act of 1935, gold confiscation by Proclamation 2039 in March 1933 and formalized in the 1934 Gold Reserve Act, etc

    6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state.
    Federal Communications Act of 1934, Railroad Coordination Act, ICC, FTC; FDR put private air mail carriers out of business and had the Army deliver mail in ’34

    7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

    TVA (FDR proposed 7 other TVA-like projects), Rural Electrification; the NRA was business and industrial planning; on 8/14/41 the House rejected FDR’s Property Seizure Bill passed by the Senate which would have given him dictatorial power over all business and industry as well as confiscated all private arms; Resettlement Administration

    8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
    CCC, CWA, PWA, WPA, etc

    9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.

    Subsistence Homestead Division, Rural Rehabilitation Division of FERA, and the Resettlement Administration

    10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. (NRA)
    [indoctrination instead of education]

    you see, they are all folowing the same plan

    but no one wants to read that plan, they all want to guess at what they are doing.

    obama is continuing the actualization of the 10 planks of the communist manifesto.

    he is increasing the taxes
    centralizing means of production
    putting soviets (unions) in charge

    but who wants to read a long post that describes such an old thing.

    after all, how could marx be relevent?

23. i would suggest this

    The Facts in the Case
    By Governor Alfred E. Smith
    January 25, 1936
    http://www.geocities.com/mark_willey/smith36.pdf

    for a read

    though i wonder how we can discuss stuff when the majority of those in the discussion really dont know the facts, histories, and other issues.

    though we do it endlessly
    (and yell at those who blow the curve on the info and make a group look less competent – no man no problem as stalin would say)

24. You have a point Art, thanks for the thoughtful work, I’m learning a lot from you…

25. Perfected democrat, THANKS!!!

    and please dont take it all as if i am perfectly knowlegeable or know it all… i DONT… but what i do know i know… if you can correct anything, please do.

    after so many years of that attitude, is it any wonder that i have so many facts and not a lot of dross?

    been refining the gold of truth for decades

    but cant do it alone…

    [this is why i post so large with facts. if we can all get onto the same page or at least a similar one, we can actually have a meangingful conversation rather than the entertaining time wasting meaningless drivel that mostly passes for debate.

    for me, the debate often sounds like several people arguing over a lobster, and not one of them ever saw a lobster, tasted one, or even bothered to read anything comprehensively about them. just rehashing whatever in passing they ‘know’ and then defending that the same as education.

    its frustrating.

    but every so often someone like you will read it all, and will realize that we may think we are having deep discussions over things, but in truth, we are having shallow pretense masquerading as debate.

    i wish i knew how to transfer such copious amounts of informatino to other people who have been denied the old canon education that created rennaisance men, for the educatino they ahve and the means they educate themselves?

    thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

26. artfldgr: you write “i wish i knew how to transfer such copious amounts of informatino to other people who have been denied the old canon education.”

    How about the Krell educator?

27. Regarding the issue of soviet spies in FDR’s closest circles of advisers and administration officials, this will give you an idea of just how thoroughly infiltrated FDR’s administration was.

    Stalin knew details of the atomic bomb program before Truman did!

    The next thought for me, based upon that fact, is to wonder exactly how far the soviet sympathizers. collaborators, spies, and flat out traitors managed to go in influencing FDR’s domestic economic and social policies prior to WWII…..

28. best quote from “HELL BENT FOR ELECTION”

    FDR confused mere activity or change with progress. Whenever he clearly identified a purpose, his actions would accomplish almost exactly the opposite, and the proposals FDR would keep on “trying” were clearly inconsistent with helping the less fortunate. Paul Warburg

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warburg_family The Warburg family is a German-Jewish family of bankers. anyone know the history of the Rothschildes?

    just to be correct, it was the Warburgs and others who like Soros today, served the purpose of moving us into slavery. (i mention that they are jewish only cause thats what wiki says in the first line)

    One of the members of the family in the United States was Felix Warburg. He was a banker and philanthropist, and his house in New York City became the Jewish Museum. Another American Warburg was Paul Warburg, the father of the U.S. Federal Reserve System.
    

    so the new deal and a lot of the centralization of power that we are discussing was the acts of the warburgs, the rothschilds, and others.

    today the names have changed, but the idea is still the same… kick all comers off the hill,and remain king of the hill.

    The German branch of the family included Max Warburg, one of the founders of the IG Farben industrial conglomerate which later played such an ominous role in helping the Third Reich. At the outbreak of WWII, however, all Jewish members had been expelled from the board of IG Farben (and all other companies in Germany). Virtually all members of the Warburg family had fled to the United States or Great Britain by 1938. However, two cousins, mother and daughter Gerta and Betty Warburg, lingered in Altona until 1940, were captured and murdered by the Nazis in the concentration camp at Sobibor.[1] Eric Warburg, son of Max Warburg, returned to Germany and was influential in restoring Germany’s reputation after the Second World War. Eric’s son, also called Max, is currently a partner in M.M. Warburg & CO. in Hamburg.
    

    so much like the Fords, they kind of did the wrong thing, and after they faded when they tried to reverse or tell about it. that is, they were used and took the blame, then discarded.

    after all the only way to buy a wealthy man is with ideas and play on his ideals. that has been the currency to get wealth from them since leonardo.

    “We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.” Paul Warburg

    [you might remember them from the Battle of Warburg in 1760]

    another quote from the same books introduction let me knwo if its familiar:
    This brings to mind the fact that liberals always want to be judged on intentions rather than results. Words, not actions, are their watchword. This thinking leads to systematic lying. A politician said he would do X but he failed, so what is his excuse? He had “intentions to do X.” Total failure leaves this weak (non)excuse as the only thing to say in defense. The problem is that liberals have so completely absorbed this lesson from FDR that when they say they will do X, they are lying — they already know that in the next election they will excuse their not doing X by saying they had “intentions” and the proof of their “intentions” is their false promise they made in the last election. They do not mean to fix a problem or necessarily take any action at all. Words are enough for them. Their promise is a lie meant by them from the first to be a lie. It is just a weapon against voters.

29. “This brings to mind the fact that liberals always want to be judged on intentions rather than results.”

    Brings to mind a current Nobel winner one might think of….

30. and a special return to Scottie!!

    Now we have Roosevelt’s full record and many of his conversations through diaries of his confidants and even his son Elliot concerning his political agenda. Warburg does not understand that in the period under discussion, 1933-1935, Roosevelt was controlled by the Bolshevik Louis Howe and that whatever Roosevelt said or thought was meaningless because he ultimately took orders from Howe. Howe was his brain. In fact, Roosevelt could afford to be agreeable to everyone and agree with anything since he was a nonfactor in decision making. His intentions could not be divined from his statements or professed attitudes because he wasn’t making policy. It would be like trying to understand a puppet while ignoring the puppetmaster.

    and your in luck… some new writing about it is out.

    Author details influence of FDR adviser Howe
    FDR’s Shadow: Louis Howe, The Force That Shaped Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt – by Julie M. Fenster

    the point is that Obama is also a puppet.
    he knows about FDR, not like the rest of us.

    and from his “friends” he knows mroe about the background history than we ever will. after all, the people who controlled howe, also controled ayers, and the otehrs in obamas life.

    if we as a public knew this history… its not hidden by anything other than laziness. we would not misread whats going on.

    as i said, they copy the past refining it.

    so obama looks reasonable and unfathomable AT THIS TIME for the same reason that FDR did.

    that everything, including the DUMB stuff is being coordinated, and rather than think it dumb, one should try to understand cui buono.

    When he first met FDR in 1911, Louis Howe was a newspaper reporter in upstate New York with a burgeoning interest in Democratic politics.

    Dazzled by Roosevelt’s youth, integrity and his brazen first run in the state Senate, Howe soon became a major player in FDR’s career, even running the campaign that ensured Roosevelt’s re-election to the state Senate in 1912.
    

    sounds like FDR was picked and groomed and lifted up by a past ayers.

    if you know about howe, you would know smoe of what i know.

    but if your like most people you have never even heard of him. yet he was the closest person to FDR from 1912 onward… always in the shadows, always advising, steping in, and having complete intimate contact with the president, yet not connected.

    Fenster details Howe’s efforts to prepare FDR for his famous “happy warrior” speech, and the way that led to his re-entry into the political sphere and his eventual election to the presidency.

    As Time magazine reported of Roosevelt the week of Howe’s death, “Admirers he had by the millions, acquaintances by the thousands, advisers by the hundreds, friends by the score, but of intimates such as Louis Howe he had only one.”

    Douglas Brinkley, author of “The Wilderness Warrior: Theodore Roosevelt and the Crusade for America” said, “Once again Julie Fenster delivers the goods. ‘FDR’s Shadow’ is a brilliant look at how the indomitable and enlightened Louis Howe became the mega-advisor of the Roosevelt Clan.”

    so when one wants to lknow about spies in roosevelts circle, and who he was referrign to whe he said “some of my best freinds are communists” then you would know howe.

    howe had the appearance of a villian out of central casting

    Howe is most known for his fierce, astute, and lifelong devotion to the political career of Franklin D. Roosevelt who publicly credited him (along with James Farley) for his initial election in 1932. Howe was also well known for his ill health and diminutive appearance which was referred to as “gnome-like” or “ghoulish”. Part of this antipathy to his appearance may well have been provoked by the success of the Roosevelt campaigns he managed, doubtless a contributing factor to his sickly appearance was his loss of 32 lbs during the 1932 campaign to elect Roosevelt when he worked day & night and slept in his clothes. Howe inspired legends concerning his power over the president. Howe didn’t really mind the name calling and often when his phone rang he’d pick it up and say in a sepulchral voice, “This is the Medieval Gnome speaking.” And, tying up many of the names which had been conferred on him, he even had cards printed with the title, “Colonel Louis Rasputin Voltaire Talleyrand Simon Legree Howe.” He favored The New York Times’ description of him as “The President’s Other I.”, The New York Herald Tribune stated of him, “His loyalty is not to himself, or to an abstract ideal of government, but solely to Franklin D. Roosevelt.” He was in truth one of the most influential characters in the making of Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt’s political careers and perhaps most widely known under the title, “king-maker.” Howe was also referred to as “The man behind Roosevelt” and Eleanor Roosevelt frankly credited him for his influence on her political development as well.
    

    wiki makes no mention of his spying.

    but as you say, FDR administration was rife with them, and they NEVER cleaned house (the russian prhase i used the otehr day).

    Hopkins was thought to be AGENT19, but that turned out to be lawrence duggan (you might notice that many of the spies and such had their names used in later movies, makes it harder to find information in the past), who was recruited by hede massing.

    alger hiss wanted him too.

    In 1990 co-president Harry Hopkins was exposed as the top KGB top agent during the war. (Inside the KGB Chris Andrew and Oleg Gordievsky pp 287-288) // In 1995 Hopkins was identified by the NSA in VENONA intercepts (KGB and GRU messages from DC to Moscow) as “Agent 19.” // Originally in 1937-39 Hopkins was a GRU agent recruited by Akhmerov but was turned over to the KGB in August 1939.

    so we have the following spies:

    howe (tentatively), hopkins (definitely – akhmerov said he was the most important agents in the US), alger hiss (definitely), john dewey (definitely), Hede Massing (definitely), Donald Maclean (definitely), Micheal Straight (codenames NOMAD and NIGEL – had tea with FDR and mrs roosvelt, she got him work in the state department. he was trecruited by akhmerov, who took the name Mr Green)…

    Harry called the American people “his enemy.” He told FDR “the American people are too damn dumb to ever sense what we are doing to them.”

    and there is so much more..

    [edited for length by neo-neocon]

31. So far, on the face of it, the above looks like a pretty complete record of fulfillment – in fact, an excellent record. Why is it not, then, an excellent argument for Mr. Roosevelt’s reelection?

    [above the paragraph is he list of planks that were fulfilled]

    Because it is a record of fulfillment, not of promises made by Mr. Roosevelt or by the Democratic party, but a record of fulfillment of the promises made by the Socialist candidate, Mr. Norman Thomas. The twelve points I have just enumerated are word for word the first twelve planks in the platform of the Socialist party on which Mr. Thomas ran for President in 1932 and polled less than nine hundred thousand votes. Does that surprise you?

    this is why norm thomas stopped runing for president, as he said, you could no longer distinguish the socialist party goals from the democratic party goals.

    to read the planks of the newborn democratic party (which when yuo read makes one think there was none before. was it co opted?), you read the same stuff they promised recently!!!! and we got the same outcome.

    is this speech past or present?

    “With these declarations the Democratic party sets its face against the time-serving and disastrous fiscal policy of recent years–when the depression began the administration, instead of reducing annual expenses to meet decreasing revenues, became sponsor for deficits, which at the end of this fiscal year will have added $5,000,000,000 to the national debt. To meet this staggering deficit the administration has resorted to the type of inflation which has weakened public confidence in our credit both at home and abroad. … Let us have the courage to stop borrowing to meet deficits. Stop the deficits!”
    roosevelt

    “I accuse the present administration of being the greatest spending administration in peace time in all our history, and which has piled bureau on bureau, commission on commission, and has failed to anticipate the dire needs of reduced earning power of our people.”

    sounds like obama wrote his speeches copying FDR…

    and that the obama blaming bush, is a copy of FDR blaming who?

    And how were these promises fulfilled? By the greatest series of budget deficits in the history of our country. The Hoover deficits, which Candidate Roosevelt found so indefensible, totaled about $7,000,000,000 in four years. President Roosevelt’s deficits in two years have totaled over $7,500,000,000. President Roosevelt’s expenditures, actual for 1934 and estimated for 1935 and 1936, amount to over $24,000,000,000. According to the estimate of Chairman Buchanan of the House Appropriations Committee, the session of Congress which adjourned on August 26, 1935, appropriated some $10,250,000,000. From George Washington to Woodrow Wilson, which covers a period of 124 years, our federal government spent $24,521,845,000. If Candidate Roosevelt’s criticism of President Hoover’s fiscal policy was sound–and the American people on November 4, 1932, seem to have indicated their feeling that it was sound-what must be said of President Roosevelt’s fiscal policy?

    and he even copied the fact that he said he was going to change things and make it smaller.

    then ran up the tab the highest in history.

    who else recently did that?

    and did it exactly the same?

    and remember the guy he was copying was ALSO ni the experienced hands of the KGB/GRU all around him.

    history is repeating.

    for it was engels that invented world war.
    and it was his followers who started the last two hard ones, then kept a soft cold war going.

    WWIV is where they are going. for how else can you reset the banks and money? (and records and lock in the change?)

32. Artfldgr, you spend a lot of time on rense.com, don’t you?

33. How did Howe puppet master FDR?

    FDR’s personality would normally be remarkably too strong to be easily controlled, except through physical infirmity, pride, or ideological hope.

34. Gray,
    nope… i spend ZERO time there!!!

    Once in a while the stuff i read is also posted there, and so a link comes up on google, but i have little time for them.

    I also stay away from the military sites for the most part.
    there is one i visit: http://strategypage.com/
    but i only read the latest news or most read news, and dont go anywhere else in the site, have no idea what it offers.

    I read lots of old books, the net has put them up for free. So when i was posting the stuff from the hayes, tilden election, i was reading the book on the history that was written about 12 or so years after the events attempting to put it all together with news and stuff that no longer exists.

    in the book are descriptions of the events of the time and the behavior of the democrats which in front of the whites, would be nice to blacks, and outside their pervue, they hunted them down.

    you dont have to go to tin hatters to read history, they dont do history, they do mish mosh. but that doesnt mean that they dont have a lot of history, they do, but they are also willing to accept all manor of rumor.

    thats why i generally put links up. its pretty easy to check if churchill said what i posted, or the names of others like howe. isnt it? i put up links. no links are ever from rense, are they?

    and to save space (no i am not joking) i will try to answer yamarskar.

    howe was the king maker. its an easy process and you can read about it. an extreme example of it is seen in mad max thunderdome. the brainy midget and the strong willed person. that is, FDR was a dealer and a social man, he loved the spot light, and so forth. but he wasnt as smart as his myths point him out to be, most things he touched he screwed up. most of any money he made was scheming, with howe following along with him from his early 20s. FDR had the balls and looks to execute howes ideas. this is not to say that FDR was stupid, he wasnt. smart people are smart enough to know a good thing when they saw it and howe had been making FDRs live a successful one as long as FDR took the angle from howe.

    howe of course was much smarter than one man, because he was backed by many people with lots of information. however all this makes someone very loyal to the people that make them. take a note of when the US actually entered the war, when hitler turned and went after mother russia.

    we can surmise till doomsday… puppet, traitor, idiot, i really dont know, but a mix of several is probably closer to the truth.

    peoples images change the more you find out about them and all the things around them. this is more true in modern history whose ability to erase the past seems to be but temporary with a lot of things.

    we have images of before an after stalin erased someone. we have images of before and after krushchev erased stalin from movies about lenin (like refilming it on a screen and having a soldier step into the frame at the right place to block the stalin character).

    we now have records from archives, records, signatures, and other information that expose what was imagined not to be known “till the struggle is over and the great book of the heroes can be revealed”.

    a whole lot of it is just facts we havent learned. too busy watching angelina jolie and all that other crap to generally read and learn and be a part of the world. that would have us be more like men and women in the past who knew what to focus on.

    howe is an interesting character in the history. he has other historical parallels like cardinal wolsey for elizabeth.

    however when you read the full histories basically following a name, jotting down names you never heard, then following that, and so on just cruising through history back and forth, you start to get a clearer dirtier picture of what before seemed so clean so neat.

    the kennedys stop looking so polished and start looking like what they were.

    even modern events look different..

    harvey milk is a hero for being murdered.
    except that he was not murdered for being gay
    and he was murdered by a democrat
    (Dan White was a democrat and he wanted his job back)

    most of it is myth manufacturing
    including the twinkie defense…

    howe doesnt seem so out of place if you know that the game is played by plucking and making people who are loyal to you… or by doing return the favor of someone else who helped you up (these are less nefarious as they expect nothing in return but pass it on).

    read a lot more about the guy.. make up your own mind… i am just a prodigious memorizer of facts and so can look back and find them… but that doesnt make me an expert that is infallible, just a guy that learned a lot.

    if you find out better info, please pass it on. 🙂

35. Thank you for your time in replying, Art.

    I think it is fair for people to ask you questions about things they don’t understand or can’t find in your posts, and I think it right for you to choose to respond or not. And I will give any answer you give as fair a hearing as I can, to the best of my ability, though fallible in the end it may be.

    I find your answer very adequate in answering my question. I will delay any point of agreement or disagreement until I am ready to make a statement. And I am sorry people can’t treat you in a way that benefits both parties involved. But that’s humanity for you.

    P.S.

    If I wanted to truly understand something you’ve mentioned, but I don’t want to go through your unedited, rambling posts, I will find a way to get what I want while also ensuring that you get something as well. I don’t feel I have a right to ask you to use your time to cater to my prejudices or likes/dislikes. So I ask a question, and you can decide whether it is worth your time to answer it or not.

    This is my little way of telling you how someone that is interested in constructive criticism, building people up not tearing them down, would do things. You may have forgotten the difference by now, given your recent troubles.

    Am I personally offended or troubled when I can’t understand something in your posts? A little bit. I am human, thus I can become irritated. But I don’t blame others for a flaw on my part. That’d be rather indecorous of me. I am offended by a personal flaw, not by someone else’s flaw. Someone else’s flaws are someone else’s problems ; )

    I wish, like many Democrats do, that people would treat others better. Unlike the Democrats, I actually know how it can be accomplished for most everyone in a general sense.

    When I first started reading Neo-Neocon, there were all kinds of people, Loyal Achates amongst them, that would blame Neo for problems stemming entirely from the reader, not the author. I think I promised myself I would try my hardest never to become like those Leftist minions, who are nothing but wannabe goons anyways. Emotions were such messy things.

36. Artfldgr,

    The situation re Howe & FDR reminds me of an extremely wealthy pair of individuals – of whom I met only one during a project several years ago.

    My boss knew both, and knew both before they became multi-millionaires, and had an interesting observation.

    Separately, neither man really was very accomplished.

    Together, they covered each other’s weaknesses and reinforced each other’s strengths – and made a lot of money as a result.

    Their partnership made them successful.

    I would put Howe and FDR in that catagory.

    As for when the US entered WWII, I would disagree and point to Dec. 7, 1941 as to what ultimately got us into that war, as there was strong national isolationist sentiments that FDR could not overcome.

    I would also acknowledge that FDR had been doing everything he could to get the US into WWII long before Pearl Harbor, and believe he knew an attack was going to occur before it did but let the commanding officer at Pearl Harbor take the fall when it actually went down.

    It would be interesting to take FDR’s inauguration as a starting point, and do sort of a political *family tree* listing the names of who we now know to have been communist spies/sympathizers, indicate what happened throughout their lives that they had influence on, and cross link them with other individuals of like sensibilities, then cross link THEM with subsequent generations of individuals of similar mindset.

    Not sure if it would be a family tree or a kudzu vine….

37. i have seen such trees and have traversed some of my own making by basically looking up whose children… or whose fatehr.

    for instance, you will notice that on wiki, you get family information. its common, mom, dad, etc.

    but when i tried to look at a certain person who is in obamas group to see their parents because a person of the same last name was a key player over seas. the trail dried up. he had parents, but the details that wold allow you to know and track whom, were not there.

    i got the bug for this as a kid when a saw a documentary about georgia okeefe. as they racked off people she went to bed with, affairs, other relationships, then dug more history around it.

    you quckly discovered that if you didnt know these people, couldnt get in their circles, and so forth, you were never going to amount to anything much unless very lucky.

    go ahead, read the families… but dont get paranoid… its VERY paranoid to read the facts when you do that and you didnt know it was the norm.

    i would also say, go to Discover the Networks.

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/

    a lof of that is done there too.

    pick a person and see the ties…

    its worse than a kuzu vine, kuzu has a source, this is just hyper permutative connectionist stuff.

38. Dear Noe-Neocon, the powers of the executive office FDR described may not be known by many people.

    But, a president who previously taught cnstituttional Law may be well versed in these measures and may be plannig to use some of them in the near future in times of national security. These would allow him to use his far reaching powers to limit or close Fox, websites, and other organizations who are critical of his administration.

    These people seem to get crazier and crazier in their approach to goverment.

    Thanks, Larry.

39. F.D.R. could not get elected in NYS without Jim Farley who controlled the Democratic Party North of the Bronx Line. He was his campaign manager and Roosevelt’s chief advisor and spoilsman. Howe was F.D.R’s closets confidant….not his Kingmaker.

    Farley was the Kingmaker and would have been the nominee in 1940 if F.D.R. had not rigged the convention and stoked anti-catholic sentiment.

    Here read it for yourself
    http://tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/program.pl?ID=488627

    Good piece of Lowie Howe Propaganda though 🙂

40. Farley was also a staunch anti-communist and used Coca-cola to stick it to the Commi Pigs 🙂

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