You can’t expect the IRS to keep good records, can you?
More and more IRS emails gone missing: six more employees’ email records, to be exact.
Even before this new “accident” was announced, Sharyl Attkisson had a great comment on the loss of Lerner’s emails:
There is a responsibility on the part of government officials to retain the data, make sure that is and can’t be lost in the system. If it’s true that the emails are lost, that’s quite a story in itself.
“Quite a story” indeed. And one the MSM hasn’t been interested in telling. They know it would be worse than Watergate—a Watergate that would get their bad guys this time, so best leave it be.
If an administration commits a crime in the forest and the press doesn’t report it, does anybody hear it?
As we all realize, the emails were not ‘lost’, they were destroyed. They know it, we know it and they know that we know it.
When not enough of a republic’s citizens care that their government is criminally corrupt because it advances the ideology to which they give their support, the foundations of that society are steadily corroded. Corroded foundations lead to collapse.
Since that is the goal of the left, our republic’s future prospects are indeed grim.
There where the nature of the law is to be or not to be, at the behest of the criminal enterprise, there can be no crimes… just criminals.
Who will stand up and talk about the degree of contempt these people have for us? They don’t honestly believe that we’ll just sit here and nod while they lie to our faces in this manner, do they?
Oh.
But really, at some point doesn’t this all collapse, perhaps along with the rest of the republic? This is openly audacious criminal behavior by an organized group of IRS employees either with or without the aid of the administration, either led or not by the DOJ. At some point they will go too far. At some point the limit will be passed.
If not now, when?
Watergate was heavily in the influence of the sub director of the FBI who Nixon didn’t promote.
So technically, it was already the Democrat’s ally being involved, given Deepthroat wanted to get rid of Nixon and Deepthroat was the person that authorized the events that led to Ayers charges being made immune and dropped.
Meanwhile Boehner, McConnell, and the balance of the GOP leadership in Washington were busy practicing their skills on a fiddle.
mezzrow:
Years ago, if someone had told me the IRS story as a hypothetical, I would have thought that the limit would have already been passed by this point.
I would have been wrong, though, wouldn’t I?
Dear IRS & US Gov’t: Focus,’Yo: See there is this computer/cyber age thingy that makes what you’re claiming IMPOSSIBLE and a LIE. Hard Drives. Yep, that’s it, Gov’t Dudes. Rosemary Woods you ain’t. HARD DRIVES. Those durned emails exist even when ACCIDENTALLY erased.
Duuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh…!!
This is ever so slightly encouraging — on CNN, a person from the Associated Press and another from Politico.com express much skepticism re the missing emails. Here’s the link to the video; it’s short and worth watching.
“Not a smidgen of evidence.” What prompted Obma to make this statement? Could it be he’d been briefed? My recollection is that he seemed supremely confident as to his statement.
The problem here is that Lerner’s story is still microscopically possible: her computer crashes and the IRS erased/recycled the backup as a matter of protocol.
So, let’s say the backup is erased. How do you explain 6 other employees’ computers crashing? Their emails would be stored there, if they are anything like Lerner’s.
This is all so implausible (by this point, impossible really), that it seems like the administration/IRS is deliberately trying to provoke us.
Is that it? Are they asking for angry citizens to start assassinating IRS employees?
@neo
Agreed. I would also have been wrong. Has our nation changed this much?
Now listen here. The IRS is just like any other government agency. Mitsakes wur maid. Can’t exspect purfectoin. Except, of course, when it’s your tax return.
Many of us who frequently use computers are not very IT savvy, but even talking heads know there is no such thing as lost email. The IRS has just opened up a whole new strategy for tax attorneys representing clients under audit. “I’m sorry to inform you that my client does not have any financial information from 6 years ago to the present day as his hard drive crashed an hour ago and all data has been lost. Unfortunately, he kept nothing backed up on another hard drive, and he does not possess paper copies of his financial data. Its just one of those things that sometimes happens. Sort of like what happened to Lois Lerner’s email. Now if you will excuse me I have another client to represent who coincidentally had her hard drive crash and all of her data was lost.”
I would have thought that the limit would have already been passed by this point.
My estimate was 100 WACOs before an American “wake up call”, years ago. That hasn’t changed, although how to estimate 1 WACO type event is difficult. Does Santa Rog event count as 1 WACO or .25 WACOs?
Was Ft. Hood 1 a WACO or was Ft Hood 1 +2 = one WACO? When SWAT no knock raids the wrong house and shoots everyone in it thinking they are armed drug dealers, is that one WACO or .1 WACO?
“Is that it? Are they asking for angry citizens to start assassinating IRS employees?”
That would be a bad move on their part. Read Unintended Consequences by John Ross, if you can find a copy. But don’t bother looking for one at your nearest library. The story it tells will make you look at your options under a increasingly totalitarian government in a completely different way.
At this point the IRS and O are not pissing on our legs and telling us it’s raining.
With the 6 more claims of the same email story … they are spitting in our face and saying tuff shit … what are you gona do!
Parker, the ATF tried to ban that book with harassment and various other tricks. This was before the SWAT knock raids and Fast and Furious though.
We are beyond criminal and into treasonous. Thee is a war. America is being attacked from within. And America is losing at this point. Badly.
Ymarsakar,
I have a first edition hardback that is probably worth 3 or 4 times what I paid for it. It has been passed around to my siblings, my children, and about 15 cousins. We all get the message. We all started off with 22s at ages 6 to 8. Today we all own CF rifles and many of us reload. We all remain active shooters. We are just like the people Henry Bowman knew as he was growing up. We are the salt of the American earth.
mezzrow:
Yes, I think it has changed that much in the last 50 years. First rather slowly, and then reaching critical mass.
As long as Holder is the AG, this won’t go anywhere. The sky’s the limit under these guys.
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/06/17/irs-regulations-require-e-mails-that-are-federal-records-to-be-stored-in-separate-permanent-system/
I am guessing that when you are conspiring to commit a crime, you probably justify NOT keeping your emails or printing them out because they really aren’t “federal records.”
Yep. The more I think about the more I imagine Lois Lerner’s process:
“If I print out this email, where would i file it? Under ‘C’ for ‘Conspiracy’? Under ‘E’ for ‘Evil Conservative Groups’? Under ‘T’ for ‘Teabaggers’? Under ‘J’ for ‘Justice’? Hmmmm… Maybe I just won’t print them out at all…”
BumsRush:
“Not a smidgen of evidence.” Well, no. Not a “smidgen” exactly. More like vast, enormous quantities. Well, until it was spoliated…
Then, not a “smidgen.”
Jeez! We got a clown who makes Nixon AND Carter AND Harding look good!
1) They are not lost.
2) Congress is merely being lied to.
3) And, Barry is stone-walling.
4) The files in such systems are stored on RAID disk drives.
This means that in the event of a crash, the duplicate file is up and available in seconds.
Duh!
The price of hard disk drives is now so cheap (and has been for some time) that RAID data storage is the NORM in government and big business. They don’t install any other types.
It’s one thing for a disk to crash in a lap top.
It’s a totally different thing when running a network.
Crashes are simply unbearable.
RAID drive schemes are all over the Internet and the military, too. They’re as common as dust.
You just don’t see them in personal computers.
(Alternate back-up schemes are used, just not RAID.)
To repeat, in a RAID set-up crashes have no impact at all.
Who’s heard of a big business that lost data in a crash? It never happens because they’re all using RAID set-ups.
Lee
Barry makes Buchanan look okay.
At least Buchanan didn’t hate the nation, he just set us up for civil war.
Barry’s setting us up AND throwing the rest of the planet into the deal.
IIRC even by the mid-eighties Oliver North found that it was impossible to erase e-mails/ computer records in the White House.
E-mails are tiny users of disk space.
Terabytes are tossed around these days like they’re Chicklets.
Just how much correspondence can exist off of one person’s desk?
It’s like the backups were erased. But wait, the excuse now is that we never made any backups!
Yes, I think it has changed that much in the last 50 years. First rather slowly, and then reaching critical mass.
Communist and Leftist groundwork was reported to be proceeding readily in US 1930. So it is more than 50 years now.
Ymarsakar:
I was talking about what I personally have observed in my lifetime in terms of changes in society as a whole when I spoke of 50 years. I was not talking about when leftist activity in this country began, which was obviously prior to that.
I personally know leftists who were active in this country prior to that.
But I noticed a certain set of values in my youth, then a period of change, and then accelerating results of that change.