“You can keep it”: the lie was absolutely deliberate
It’s not easy to get a lie into a presidential speech. Every draft address is circulated to the White House senior staff and key Cabinet officials in something called the “staffing process.” Every line is reviewed by dozens of senior officials, who offer comments and factual corrections. During this process, it turns out, some of Obama’s policy advisers objected to the “you can keep your plan” pledge, pointing out that it was untrue. But it stayed in the speech. That does not happen by accident. It requires a willful intent to deceive…
This whole episode is a window into a fundamentally dishonest presidency. And the story gets worse. After Obama began telling Americans they could keep their plans, White House aides discussed using media interviews “to explain the nuances of the succinct line in his stump speeches.” But they decided not to do so, because “officials worried .”‰.”‰. that delving into details such as the small number of people who might lose insurance could be confusing and would clutter the president’s message.”
Keep it simple, stupid. Wouldn’t want the masses getting the wrong (that is, right) idea, especially before election time, would you?
Sure he lied. But it was good for us.
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
— C. S. Lewis
He knew it, and he calculated he could absorb the fallout?
Or perhaps he was going to dredge Osama up from the deep and shoot him again about this time.
It was an argument for consumption. Once eaten it serves its purpose, and the rest doesn’t really matter. we want to think it does, but watch, it doesn’t. IF the polity was not willing to pounce on liars and keep this up to standards for decades and decades, don’t expect them to think that its wrong and should stop
people act as if people who take constitution classes take an oath to regard it and believe in it, not just study it (among others).
it will be seen as a necessary evil to get to the actual goal of slavery through medicine and rationing favoring the young volk.
The Independent Payment Advisory Board, or IPAB, is a fifteen-member United States Government agency created in 2010 by sections 3403 and 10320 of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act which has the explicit task of achieving specified savings in Medicare without affecting coverage or quality
it all depends on how you define coverage and quality, and whether IS is IS
Under previous and current law, changes to Medicare payment rates and program rules are recommended by MedPAC but require an act of Congress to take effect. The new system grants IPAB the authority to make changes to the Medicare program with the Congress being given the power to overrule the agency’s decisions through supermajority vote.
you can be sure that this group will be like so many other groups and places in academia and similar spaces where they are duplicating the equivalents of soft Nuremberg laws which are much less overt with their outcomes pish toshed away in favor of some false benefit.
what? did you think Obama was the first to lie? hey, feminists are to Pavlov as we are to the dogs he screwed around with. [lets see. smart women go to college and work and have very few babies. not so smart women end up on welfare and have lots of babies on the dime of the smart women and their families. over time, this leads to utopia (for whom)]
all you have to do is chart the educational outcomes decline from the time before they centralized education, to realize what will happen with medicine over time (incrementally).
not much we can do about it any more
its way way way out of our hands as citizens
given number changes, and the ladies voting against their mates if a certain class, their is no way to get the impassioned feelings based people to not drive into a wall – heck they will drive into it just cause their hated others say not to. right now, they are eating up the pudding of the fault of all this is the republicans in some way shape or emphemeral penumbras and auras of blame.
So, excoriated though he may have been, Joe Wilson was correct.
Obama never particularly cared whether the ACA rollout would go well or poorly. His goal was to make it the law of the land and he quite literally said and did whatever he needed to to succeed in that. And he knows that it’s impossible to completely undo what he has wrought.
And why would ANYONE feel comfortable in putting personal records and other info into this screwed up enrollment system, whether online or over the phone? It’s a security nightmare and it’s only going to get worse. I would feel safer replying to one of those Nigerian email scams.
They are ALL liars. And they know it.
And the worst of it is they of it is they think we are dopes and will fall for it. Val Jarrett thinks using the word “free” blinds the American people. It worked with Obamaphones and food stamps, but not this.
Too much pain and sticker shock to too many people.
Check out the WSJ piece today from Edie in San Diego. Cancer patient loses health insurance!
Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette. So now, many of us are kulaks.
“You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.” JN 8:44
Not that we are not all subject to lying from time to time.
But lying as a moral failure is one thing; lying as policy, lying as premeditated tyranny ploy….that’s another matter.
Obama, I have often said, is an (not “the”, but “an”) antichrist. He is what that thing looks like when it achieves power.
He has three years left to figure out a way to make his reign indefinite and his dominions vast.
As I posted here 5 yrs ago, Obama=Chavez.
He just has to play to the Dumbos, the LIVs, and the corruptible (e.g. in Northern VA). It ain’t hard, Mike.
Posted on November 4, 2013
“Obama: ‘What We Said Was You Can Keep It If It Hasn’t Changed Since The Law Passed'”
http://tinyurl.com/p9fwev6
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That’s exactly right. That’s *exactly* what I heard him say two dozen different times before this one. /sarc
MJR:
“Obama: ‘What We Said Was You Can Keep It If It Hasn’t Changed Since The Law Passed’”
I’m not sure what makes me retch more violently, the lying or the weaseling.
Lying about previously lying is really so despicable that it should disqualify a person from ever being believed at all in the future. Proof of zero integrity.
President Barack Obama told his enthusiastic supporters Monday night that he never promised what video recordings show him promising at least 29 times.
The videos show Obama promising 300 million Americans that “if you like your health-care plan, you will be able to keep your health-care plan, period.”
But that’s not what he really said, Obama announced Monday in a speech to about 200 Organizing for Action supporters, gathered at the St. Regis hotel in D.C.
ah, the things that one has to do to follow the chatechism…
I told you they are following a play book from the 1930’s
they had not even updated it in terms of what it says to do, and what has changed preventing you from doing that any more. like videotape, open mikes, etc…
the world has changed, they have not
they fear the changing world and seek to stagnate it
IF His Infantile Majesty’s Precious Lips Be’Movin’…
HE Be LYIN’..!
But, what the heck…Who gives the remotest damn except us wascally wacists??
Just SOP in the Age of Obam-Bam.
‘Purge surge’: Obama fires another commander
yes.. like stalin he is replacing the people who have caommand and control of nuclear weapons, tanks, and so on…
but you guys ignore that as neo ignores it…
Nine generals and flag officers have been relieved of duty under Obama just this year –
sources put the total number of senior officers purged during the five years of the Obama administration as close to 200.
Army Maj. Gen. Paul E. Vallely
Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin a founder of the Army’s elite Delta Force
Medal of Honor recipient Maj. Gen. Patrick Henry Brady
Col. Eric Tilley was suspended from his job by Maj. Gen. James C. Boozer Sr., commander of U.S. Army Japan and I Corps (Forward) for a “lack of confidence”
“I believe there are more than 137 officers who have been forced out or given bad evaluation reports so they will never make Flag (officer), because of their failure to comply to certain views,” – chairman of Combat Veterans For Congress PAC
This is the media’s fault. They never bothered to fact check Obama. He’s used to lying and getting away with it.
Don, your wrong. they did fact check, that way they would know what to cover up… its just that they approve and used that information to trick the dupes, and turn them nasty to their fellow ppl…
The Tea Party, along with doctors, health care providers, ought to develop their own catch slogan to compliment “you can keep it” :
OBAMA CARE: YOU CAN SHOVE IT
artfldgr,
If anything you’re ignoring Obama’s replacement of military commanders. Instead of looking at the data and researching it yourself, making your own hypothesis and testing it, you’re just taking as fact what someone else reports to you and doing no thinking of your own.
Copying text someone else wrote, here, isn’t you being aware, it’s merely a copy cat technique.
There is no productive analysis there that an intel specialist would give us, such as weaknesses, strengths, technical breakdowns, reverse engineerings, or anything of a tactical or strategic level.