The conflict between India and Pakistan
A helpful tip for people of the future: don’t partition an “I” state and a “P” state, especially if the “P” state is Muslim. Israel and Palestine; India and Pakistan.
I’m being a bit facetious about a topic that’s very serious, but it’s an odd pattern, isn’t it? Of course, there are huge differences between the conflicts, and although the animosity between India and Pakistan has religious roots I think the border dispute (Kashmir in particular) is more central than it is in the Middle East, where it’s somewhat of a screen for the annihilationist goals of the Palestinians. As far as I know, Pakistan has no plans to annihilate the Indians, which would be an odd goal considering India’s enormous population. Israel, on the other hand, is very small.
What will happen now between Pakistan and India? Well, there are threats:
India hit Pakistan and Pakistani Kashmir with missiles on Wednesday and Pakistan vowed to retaliate saying it shot down five Indian aircraft, in the worst clash in more than two decades between the nuclear-armed neighbours.
India told more than a dozen foreign envoys in New Delhi that “if Pakistan responds, India will respond,” fuelling fears of a larger military conflict in one of the world’s most dangerous – and most populated – nuclear flashpoint regions. …
India said it struck nine “terrorist infrastructure” sites, some of them linked to an attack by Islamist militants that killed 25 Hindu tourists and one local in Indian Kashmir last month.
Pakistan said at least 31 of its civilians had been killed and 46 wounded, a military spokesperson said, and that India “had ignited an inferno in the region”. This included deaths from the strikes and border shelling.
Is Pakistan telling the truth about civilian casualties? I don’t know.
But I’ll go out on a limb and say I don’t think this will end up in some sort of nuclear conflagration. There is a lengthy history of this sort of skirmish there and they are ordinarily contained.
NOTE: That Reuters article I linked has a typical weasel headline: “Pakistan vows retaliation after Indian strike over tourist deaths.” Terrorists killed the tourists; they didn’t just die.
“although the animosity between India and Pakistan has religious roots”
Rhetorical question; when was the last time that a Hindu ‘radical’ group conducted a terrorist attack against a Muslim community? We all know the answer to that question; the theological (ideological) justification for unprovoked violence extends in one direction only. Which makes Islam the guilty party. Civilizations tolerate the barbaric at their peril, as Western Europe is increasingly aware.
Geoffrey Britain, you wrote “…when was the last time that a Hindu ‘radical’ group conducted a terrorist attack against a Muslim community?”
Duck Assist answered “The last significant terrorist attack attributed to Hindu radical groups against a Muslim community occurred during the 2008 Malegaon blasts, where several people were killed and injured.”
There has also been Hindu terrorism directed at Christians. Still, I take your point.
Is Pakistan telling the truth about civilian casualties? I don’t know.
Let’s put it this way. Osama Bin Laden lived for years in Pakistan, within a mile of the Pakistani West Point, with the knowledge and probable support of Pakistani intelligence services (ISI) while Pakistan was ostensibly our “ally.”
@ Neo > ” That Reuters article I linked has a typical weasel headline: “Pakistan vows retaliation after Indian strike over tourist deaths.” Terrorists killed the tourists; they didn’t just die.”
I’m sure someone will nominate them for the next round of Pulitzer Prizes.
https://thenewneo.com/2025/05/06/the-trump-assassination-attempt-photo-wins-a-pulitzer/
”…when was the last time that a Hindu ‘radical’ group conducted a terrorist attack against a Muslim community?”
There are frequent attacks by Hindu extremists against Muslims (and Christians) in India. People have been killed for eating a hamburger in their own homes. In fact, the current ruling BJP party in India came to prominence by organizing a “rally” of 150,000 people at the nearly 500-year-old Babri Masjid mosque at which the crowd dismantled the mosque with hammers and axes. The resulting riots killed 2,000 people.
The government of India has since authorized the construction of a Hindu temple on the site, consecrated by prime minister Modi himself. That obviously doesn’t sit well with the Muslims.
Unfortunately the violence in India goes both ways.
Then there’s this: https://youtu.be/m8IWd7uDYNk?si=TyHIks2hrcArxKdi
When the imperialist, white, racist, colonizing oppressors leave, things seem to fall apart. See what was the Ottoman Empire post WW I versus post WW II.
People only see what they’re looking for. It’s very easy to say, for example, “why are there never any Hindu attacks on Muslims” and not know that there have been very many, certainly more recently than 2008, but they don’t get through our self-imposed media filter.
If you don’t look you’ll never find. The news that’s dished out to us by legacy media and online algorithms is designed to skew our picture of the world. You have to seek out information to really know what’s going on.
Quote below from the Delhi riots in 2020.
The NYT didn’t report on this so that we could get a balanced picture of who commits religiously-motivated violence. They reported on it to shape our perception of India’s government, which the NYT considers unacceptably right-wing. It did happen, however, and as it’s irrelevant to much of the audience of the right-leaning blogosphere probably most of us missed it.
A faux-Reuters meme circulating in Israel:
“India Attacks Pakistan: UN Passes Resolution Condemning Israel”
Again taking the Times account as a rallying point, is a wrong call, its only salafi moslem groups that say shoot up mumbai that bomb trains in pune or any of a hundred other examples
There has never been a country called Palestine. It is as fake as wakanda. Palestinians are as imaginary as transgenders.
https://freebeacon.com/media/columbias-pulitzer-disgrace/