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Tim Walz – one of many dodged bullets in the 2024 election

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The selection of Tim Walz for her VP pick was one of Harris’ biggest mistakes in her presidential run – and that’s saying something, because she made a lot of big mistakes. But anyone who had ever paid attention to Walz previously knew he had a terrible record during the Minneapolis riots and has no real appeal on a gut level as a politician.

For me, one of his most cringe-worthy poses was his attempt to project a macho “regular guy” vibe. And he’s still trying:

Since faceplanting as Kamala Harris’ running mate, the Minnesota governor has been holding rallies and making the media rounds in a desperate attempt to boost his stock for a 2028 presidential run.

Here’s Tim:

How can a person be that tone deaf? Someone should tell him that what works in Minnesota doesn’t necessarily work on a national level.

Kamala Harris may be running for the governorship of California. One of her problems has been that what works in California doesn’t necessarily work on a national level. So maybe retreating to the state level is a good idea for her. I doubt she’ll run, though, unless pretty much assured she’ll win the Democratic primary, which is tantamount to winning the election in California.

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Tim Walz – one of many dodged bullets in the 2024 election — 32 Comments

  1. Related.
    “Kevin O’Leary Slams Gov. Tim Walz For Trashing Tesla While His State Pension Holds Millions In Shares”—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/225-dropping-unhinged-gov-tim-walz-openly-roots-against-american-company

    The Democratic Party’s impressive talent for destruction remains unabated.

    + Bonus:
    “Rogue Soros-Funded NGO Plots Multi-City Assault On Tesla As Domestic Terrorism Escalates”—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rogue-soros-funded-ngo-plots-multi-city-assault-tesla-domestic-terrorism-escalates

  3. Harris needed a running mate whose record wouldn’t overshadow her own – she found one.

  5. I’d be fascinated to know who financed his many excursions to China, his degree of facility in Chinese dialects, and when in his life he’d have had the opportunity to learn them. Chinese is an abnormally difficult language to learn; nothing else in his life suggests he’d have it in him to do it. (His tertiary degrees were in ‘subjects’ taught in teachers’ colleges; he was ‘certified’ as an academic high school teacher without any academic degrees).
    ==
    Unlike Brett Kavanaugh, he actually does have indicia of alcoholism. See any reference to those outside of fora like this one?

  6. Since faceplanting as Kamala Harris’ running mate, the Minnesota governor has been holding rallies and making the media rounds in a desperate attempt to boost his stock for a 2028 presidential run.

    I would vote as many times as possible–legally or not–to support his candidacy for a 2028 presidential run. I could not think of a more competent candidate for the Democrats. 🙂

  7. Walz is typical of the mediocre candidates that get elected governor in blue states. Our former governor, Jay Inslee being another example.

    I guess the powers that be want mediocre yes men who are easily controlled. Otherwise, these selections make no sense.

    That Walz is still trying to be relevant is an example of his unawareness of himself. No authenticity, and no coherent message. Give it up, Tim. You had your day in the spotlight, andd it wasn’t p[retty.

  8. Tim Walz’ act doesn’t even work in Minnesota. I live here, in a suburb of one of the bright blue dots amid an ocean of red. Walz has Minneapolis, St. Paul, and the inner ring suburbs, and then Duluth. That’s it. The Democrats have finally lost the Iron Range, which used to be reliably Democratic (mining, unions, etc.), meaning all of outstate MN just despises him.

    That’s led to a 67-67 tie in the MN House, but the Speaker is Republican, meaning the MNGOP can finally put a stop to the unbridled spending the Democrats unleashed when they had a huge surplus and control of the House.

    But there are still the cities, where a lot of people live, and there are hundreds of thousands of “blue no matter who” people who wouldn’t vote for Jesus Christ if he had an (R) behind his name. They’re mostly rich and they don’t have to contend with the consequences of their ideology, living in lily-white enclaves. Most of them are just as phony and irritating as Walz, with his same level of self-awareness.

    I’m hoping for Scott Presler to come and flip the state. That guy could walk down to where George Floyd met his end and start signing people up to be Republicans. Time will tell.

  10. MN VOTED WALZ INTO OFFICE. THAT TELLS ME ALL I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT VOTERS OF THAT STATE.
    BTW, who or what determined conservatives should be “red”? The historical color of socialism-communism-the “Little RED book” of Mao ? That is now part of our language, adopted by all.

  11. In a way I’m happy that one of the current crop of Democrats supposedly leading lights (LOL) is evidently completely clueless. The complete collapse of the Democrat party is truly remarkable. I can honestly say that I’ve never seen them so lost in my lifetime. But as Glenn Reynolds is so fond of saying, “Don’t get cocky”. They’re still capable of a lot of mischief and chaos. On the one had, it’s still unclear what all these Lefty rogue Judges efforts will yield. On the other, their domestic terrorizing of all things related to Tesla and Elon Musk reeks of desparation.

  12. What did the voters of Minnesota see in Waltz to prompt them to vote for him as their governor ??

    Then again, just shy of 50% of the voters cast a vote for Kamala.

    “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

    Winston Churchill

    “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.”

    Abraham Lincoln

  13. Churchill also said “democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried.”

  14. @Art Deco:I’d be fascinated to know who financed his many excursions to China

    If you really would like to know, it’s not very difficult to find that out.

    The families of the people he took there, most likely, at $1875 per person I’m sure there was no trouble affording a ticket for Walz as he was running tour groups to China. Some people start such tour groups because it gives them a chance to travel and offsets the expense.

    It’s certainly possible he’s a spy for the Red Chinese, but the reason why and how he paid for so many trips to China is not at all mysterious.

    I’m somewhat apprehensive, but I’m also excited,” Gov. Tim Walz told a local newspaper before departing for a yearlong teaching appointment in the southern Chinese city of Foshan. “It will be an interesting experience, I’m sure.”

    That experience sparked in Walz a lifelong fascination with Chinese culture — one he shared with hundreds of high school students on elaborately planned annual trips over the course of a decade and touted proudly when he first entered politics. Walz was so proud of his extensive experience abroad that he occasionally used to exaggerate it. His campaign now acknowledges that Walz’s past claims that he had been to China around 30 times were overstated, and the actual number of trips he’s taken from the United States to China is “closer to 15.”

    his degree of facility in Chinese dialects, and when in his life he’d have had the opportunity to learn them.

    Probably the months he spent in Guangdong teaching English and American history helped him nail down what he might not have got the first time in the classroom.

    Basketball kept the boys busy. The girls focused on dance.

    Lybarger’s 7th Street studio team performed dozens of times, often exchanging lessons with Chinese dancers.

    “It was a game of charades basically. Because we couldn’t speak the language,” Lybarger said.

    The Alliance dancers practiced in city parks and playgrounds. People hung out the windows to catch a glimpse. Little kids gathered to mimic their moves. “Every time we’d go to a hotel, they’d say the hotel staff would like a show,” she said.

    So Lybarger’s girls gathered up Walkmans and cassette tapes and danced to Ace of Base’s “(I Saw) The Sign.” Then they got the Chinese audience to participate in “Love Shack.”

    It wasn’t all work. Walz scheduled a few sightseeing days, including a trip to an amusement park. Almond remembers riding next to Walz on a bamboo roller coaster. “Rickety. Scary. But fun,” Almond said. “You only live once.”

    One week after arriving in China, they traveled 30 miles to Foshan where Walz once taught. A big welcome sign greeted the Nebraska bus.

    “Everybody remembered Tim,” Lybarger said. “They were so happy to see him.”

    On the bus rides, Nebraskans taught the Chinese teenagers how to sing “American Pie.” In exchange, Chinese students taught the Nebraskans how to write their names in Cantonese. Walz himself demonstrated how to eat with chopsticks.

    The Nebraskans grew fond of the place.

    “The people were wonderful and they embraced us,” said Randy Hiemstra, one of the basketball players. “As for the soldiers carrying M16s? They tolerated us.”

    The basketball culminated with one final game at a university arena. Two players from China’s junior national team showed up, Almond said. The Americans won by a couple points and finished the trip undefeated.

    On the final day in mainland China, the Nebraskans went shopping, trading dance shoes and Alliance T-shirts for souvenirs. Then they boarded a boat back to Hong Kong. Finally, a Tim Walz plan failed.

    The Nebraskans were supposed to have rooms to sleep. Instead, they ended up beneath the deck in an open room of bunk beds. Not exactly a Norwegian Cruise, Almond said. Most opted to stay up all night, enjoying the boat ride.

    “It was so beautiful,” Lybarger said. “I was thinking, I can’t believe I’m here.”

    When the Nebraskans reached the airport in Los Angeles, they practically ran to the nearest fast food counter.

    Seventeen days after departure, they made it back to Alliance, exhausted but enlightened.

    “I came home with a great appreciation for the country we live in,” Lybarger said. “It was a beautiful place and a wonderful experience, but we are very, very fortunate people.”

    “It made a huge impact on the rest of my life,” her daughter, Sara, said. “Trying to be open and respectful of other cultures and wanting to travel the world and see other things.”

  15. I don’t know about anyobody else, but if I were Tim Walz’ neighbor, I wouldn’t let my kids out when he was around. Especially the boys.

  17. @Art Deco:Sorry, not buying.

    That’s your privilege, but it’s a pretty deep conspiracy that involves a bunch of Nebraskans and their parents and high school yearbooks forged thirty years before they’d be needed.

    A wise woman posted just the other day:

    This person isn’t ill-informed and she’s quite intelligent, but somehow that original lie, repeated over and over again, has become unassailable truth in her mind. That lie not only got halfway around the world before the truth had a chance to get its boots on, but it burrowed deep into many many minds and then was driven deeper by all the repetition. Correcting it requires a rather lengthy explanatory conversation, supporting documents and videos, and the will on the part of the listener to entertain the idea that such a deeply-entrenched, long-held, and multiply-sourced belief is incorrect. Not only that, but the belief fits in with so many other beliefs about Trump that have been repeated over the years, plus beliefs about Republicans and especially MAGA voters, that the task of getting the revised story across is nearly insurmountable.

    Believing that Tim Walz’s China tour business paid for his trips to China doesn’t make you have to vote for him, you know. It just means you’ve decided not to wear a tinfoil hat.

  18. Tampon Tim reminds me of Elmer Fudd, and his boast about how he could “beat” a lot of those who oppose him is just pathetic.

    P.S. You might remember stories about how, after the National Guard unit he was part of got their orders to be deployed for a tour in Iraq, mighty warrior Battalion Command Sergeant Major Walz—admittedly in a key position—abruptly retired, leaving his unit and his fellow soldiers in the lurch as they deployed to Iraq, and that left a bad taste in a lot of his unit member’s mouths.

  19. but it’s a pretty deep conspiracy
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    I’ve offered no speculation beyond something-doesn’t-fit. You’re talking to your imagination.

  22. “Tim Walz – one of many dodged bullets in the 2024 election”
    A bullet from the Weapon of War he carried in Iraq Italy?

  23. Boomer joke: “Q: What’s black and white and read (pronounced red) all over? A: a newspaper”

    (IIRC, before they went full-color, newspapers included some red printing, besides the black.)

    Zoomer question: What’s a newspaper?

  24. I was watching the opening of a show on the News Nation cable channel. The unfamiliar host…Vitter or Vitler? developed an interesting analogy I’ve seen no where else before

    He compared the Harris-Waltz kiss to the McCain-Palin campaign in 2008. Such mileage from two loser twins times!

    If I find a transcript or written version (or video clip), I will share it.

  25. @ Rufus & Cicero – the post Rufus linked gives a good explanation of the current color association with parties, which — as noted therein — flies in the face of long-standing precedent, when Red was for Radicals liberals-communists-socialists etc.
    IMO the cementing of the colors after 2000 was done by the media on purpose, so that the Left (already dominant in the networks), by “just accidentally” upsetting tradition and connotation, could tamp down a public connection of Red for Radicals with the Democrat party. The Dems were shifting heavily in that direction, and it was important to distract from that move.

    The rationales, plausible though they may be, came later.

    And the obfuscation is going to really confuse historians later, trying to connect “Better Red than dead” shouted by Democrats from the seventies with “Kill anyone wearing red hats” from current Democrat activists.

  27. For a politician, is there any downside to running for president? You may not make your dream come true. Most likely you won’t. But you’re not likely to end up any worse than you were before. Maybe Gary Hart was an exception, but he invited his own downfall, but not stopping his hounddogging and by inviting reporters to follow him around if they didn’t believe him.

    In the same election cycle, Joe Biden’s campaign was ruined by his plagiarism, but he didn’t lose his Senate seat and stayed in the upper house for another two decades. True, he proved he wasn’t presidential material, but (as Joe likes to say) guess what?

    Walz won’t go all the way, but he may “write” a funny campaign book and eventually do some ads for something. Along the way, he’ll have heaps of fun and not have to pay for anything.

  28. @SCOTT the Badger:Chinese soldiers carrying M16s?

    Lots of people don’t know guns and will call anything that looks scary enough an “M16” or an “AK47”. I’ve seen armed people in China and in Europe and I can’t tell you what they were carrying, I’m not a gun guy.

    @Art Deco:I’ve offered no speculation beyond something-doesn’t-fit.

    But it DOES fit, and there’s nothing to explain. A guy who operates a tours-of-China business would be expected to be able to fund his travel to China from that business and it wouldn’t be surprising if he got good at Chinese. (Plenty of dumb people speak Chinese perfectly; China’s full of them.) A guy who sells wine would be expected to able to own a rare or obscure bottle of wine, might have more wine around than most people, might know more about it than most people. A guy who is a brain surgeon can probably afford a BMW and probably knows a lot about brain surgery.

    At one time Walz was charging $1875 per person for that tour. Suppose the true cost to be $1750, then with 14 people he subsidizes his own trip. There was more than 14 high school students in that yearbook photo I linked to. It’s not mysterious at all. It’s really easy to fund a trip to China if you’re taking one or two dozen people with you.

    Right now a good hotel in Shanghai can be had for $80 USD per night. Round trip ticket Seattle – Beijing for next week is about $1000. I bet a week in China would cost me less than a week at Disney World, which is about $120 per day just the admission, and we don’t assume anyone has trouble explaining their “financing” for trips to Disney World even if they go every year.

  29. But it DOES fit, and there’s nothing to explain.
    ==
    Scenarios are not evidence. Buzz off.

  30. @Abraxas:For a politician, is there any downside to running for president?

    If you actually want to be President, I think there is. Running for President in what’s expected to be a bad year for your party can almost guarantee that you’re never going to be President if you don’t win, they won’t run you again. Trump, like with so many other things, being an exception.

    That’s why when one party seems to have a poor chance they often trot out some “old warhorse” like Walter Mondale or Bob Dole or John Kerry.

  31. @Art Deco:Scenarios are not evidence. Buzz off.

    I linked to contemporaneous photographic evidence. You clearly don’t really want to know the answer to your “questions” and you’re just spreading FUD.

    Everybody makes their own tinfoil hat, nobody shoves it on your head for you.

  32. One would argue hart was near beer compared to clinton, he was certainly more to the left than say dukakis the eventual nominee sid blumental certainly thought so (talk about a soviet tool) of course they doubled down after hart with clinton with stephanopoulos and carvilles bimbo squad

    To deny the strong influence that the PRC has on walz is rather ridiculous and his effect on minnesotas wellbeing is self evident

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