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On the Hegseth confirmation, and especially Murkowski — 18 Comments

  1. My problem with ranked choice is that ultimately you’re voting for a person, not a series of policies. You can’t really quantify a person like you can a series of political policies.

  2. My problem with ranked choice is that ultimately you’re voting for a person, not a series of policies. You can’t really quantify a person like you can a series of political policies.
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    What you’re doing with ranked-choice is giving a set of instructions as to how your ballot is to be cast in a particular set of circumstances. In each contingent circumstance, you’re voting for a person.

  3. McConnell’s intervention in Alaska politics is properly condemned.
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    NB, evidently our floor leaders double as fundraisers and control the chamber by spreading cash around. This is another scandal.
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  4. The American Conservative Union’s index puts Collins’ voting record to the left of Sleaza’s. OTOH, Collins voted for Brett Kavanaugh and Sleaza did not.

  5. The 2010 campaign was nearly as dodgy miller as the tea party won the nomination murkowskis ran as an independent on a dodgy write in campaign where any scribble was deemed a legitimate signature of course there were other scams countered against miller by the mcclatchy press

    There was emnity between the tea party and the establishment in alaska that went on for some years of course murkowski would go on to not only vote against trumps nominees but the worst of bidens austin mayorkas and garland along with their contentious deputies

    In retrospect there was some lawfare carried against stevens and several state reps using dubious witnesses that were challenged on appeal but those races were never reinstated

  6. Ranked choice voting. They tried to bring that to Idaho last time around, and it was defeated 70/30 thankfully. Even without it we have our share of Republican squishes, especially when it comes to immigration. Agribusiness carries a lot of weight here, and they throw it around.

  7. Plenty of Begiches of both parties in Alaska politics, too. It’s like the extended Udall family, which by some accounts not only includes Democrats in Arizona, New Mexico, and Arizona, but also Republican Smith and Lee cousins in Oregon and Utah. About the family founder:

    David married a second wife, Ida Hunt, in 1882. She was a granddaughter of Jefferson Hunt. David was prosecuted for, but not convicted of, bigamy in 1884. In 1885, he was indicted for perjury stemming from a sworn statement he made backing a land claim for Miles Romney (the grandfather of George W. Romney). His bail was posted by Baron Goldwater, the father of Barry Goldwater.

  8. Any speculation on why Tom Tillis was doing the Hamlet act on PH before he voted to confirm? Collins and the Alaska Snowblower at least didn’t dither on the vote like either Mitch or Tillis. I read speculation that if Tillis voted No then McConnel would have been a Yes to make it a tie, however.

  9. Even without it we have our share of Republican squishes, especially when it comes to immigration. Agribusiness carries a lot of weight here, and they throw it around.
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    Ranked-choice voting is a set of tabulation conventions. It does not have any partisan biases.

  10. ”Ranked-choice voting is a set of tabulation conventions. It does not have any partisan biases.”

    Yes it does, and that’s why the Democrats are pushing for it. It is designed to bring the followers of fringe candidates to the polls and transfer their votes to the Democrat.

  11. Yes it does, and that’s why the Democrats are pushing for it. It is designed to bring the followers of fringe candidates to the polls and transfer their votes to the Democrat.
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    No, it is not designed to do that. People who fancy 3d parties can be of any stripe and the most durable fringe organization is the Libertarian Party. Your hypothesis only works if there’s a submerged red-haze vote which is larger than some alternative strand (with both being unmeasured).
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    Please note, that controversial ranked-choice contests and runoff contests have occurred in circumstances where there were multiple Republicans running in jungle primaries.

  12. Neo, you may think that Hegseth’s margin was known; but I read that one GOP Senator (too lazy to go back and identify) only changed his mind/vote once the voting was underway.
    Maybe Collins divined that he would do so.

    My sentiment is that if you run as a Republican it is not particularly honest to jump back and forth at your convenience. We don’t see that among Democrats–except when Manchin did it, of course; and he seemed to do it on principle–or gave that impression.

    If her situation as a Republican is so precarious, why doesn’t she honestly run as the Democrat that she often resembles? Maybe some Maniacs are voting for strictly on personality, but maybe some are voting along party lines. She presumably benefits from GOP affiliation.
    I will grant that Collins, although too often aligned, is a different creature from Murkowski.

  13. ”No, it is not designed to do that.”

    Of course it is. Why do you think it’s so popular among left-wing Democrats like AOC? Like motor-voter registration and the abolition of voter ID, it helps Democrats. In this case, it helps by bringing out fringe voters who wouldn’t show up otherwise and transferring those votes to the Democrats.

    ”If her situation as a Republican is so precarious, why doesn’t she honestly run as the Democrat that she often resembles?”

    Why on Earth would you want her to do that? You’d turn a 60% Republican vote into a 5% Republican vote and in some situations throw control of the Senate to the Democrats.

  14. Joe Miller was a person who you wouldn’t want as dogcatcher. He had a member of the liberal press (such as it is) detained at a speech of his. Ranked choice voting was pushed by Murkowski and her people, with outside money. There is a real possibility that two candidates from the same party could face off.

  15. What is interesting is that none of these calculations have to do with the nominee’s qualifications.
    It’s all political. So that means, after some filtering down, that it’s about what the voters think about….what?

    Could there possibly be any voter interest in the issues moving the politicians in this and similar matters?

  16. Alaska is a red state, yes, but it had a Democrat in the other Senate seat as recently as 2015 and elected a Democrat to its at-large US House seat in 2022. There were odd circumstances in both elections, but it is not by any means unthinkable for a Democrat to win statewide in Alaska.

    If you think of a political party as an organization whose highest goal is to win elections and take power, Murkowski is probably the lowest risk candidate for Alaska, especially when you consider that the friction of pushing her aside before she’s ready to go could very easily elect a Democrat to the seat. I strongly suspect that is where McConnell is/was.

    On the other hand, if you think of a political party as a vehicle for implementing a conservative agenda, then Murkowsi is an inefficiency because, all things being equal, the GOP could probably win that seat with a more conservative candidate.

    I don’t think it’s necessary to accuse McConnell of Trump hatred or some sort of nefarious monetary interest. McConnell is a Senate and a party institutionalist (i.e., he sees the purpose of the party as winning elections and taking power). That is a sufficient explanation for his actions. (Remember that his refusal to consider Garland’s nomination was almost certainly a necessary condition for Trump’s victory in 2016.)

    I think the difference here is philosophical. A party whose highest goal is to implement a particular agenda is going to lose more elections than a party whose highest goal is to win and take power. How much risk are you willing to take for the sake of an agenda? I think the worst you can accuse McConnell of is not recognizing the importance of the agenda and the risk of NOT implementing it.

    Aside – I agree with neo on Collins. She’s basically the opposite of Murkowski. Murkowski is an inefficiency for conservatives because a more conservative candidate could probably win the seat. Collins is an arbitrage for conservatives because that seat should probably be held by someone much less conservative than her. Her votes for a conservative agenda, like her deciding vote on Kavanaugh, are gravy for the right. My guess is that Democrats view Collins’ seat pretty much the same way that Republicans looked at Manchin’s seat which, for all the grief he caused Democrats, was also an arbitrage in Democrats’ favor.

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