So – what about those missing Biden votes?
This guy discusses something that seemed mysterious shortly after the 2024 election – so many fewer votes than in 2020. It seemed to point to evidence that fraud had occurred in 2020. But it no longer seems that way, for reasons that will be explained in the clip.
That actually doesn’t mean that election fraud did not occur in 2020. It merely means that the missing votes – and where they are missing – don’t offer any proof or even any strong indication that it did. I have claimed from the start, and I continue to claim, that because of the relaxation of the security rules for voting in 2020 and the overwhelming number of mail-in ballots, it is impossible to tell and I don’t think we will ever know. But the number of fraudulent votes wouldn’t have had to have been in the millions – just enough to account for some of the swing state margins.
Anyway, I think this clip is well worth watching:
Part of it was, as neo and a few others noted at the time, that California has millions of votes and takes weeks to count them, and has still a few tens of thousands to go as of right now according to the unprocessed ballot report.
As of today, the 2024 popular vote totals:
Trump: 77.2 million
Harris: 74.9 million
Other: 3.0 million
Total: 155.1 million
And the 2020 popular vote totals:
Trump: 74.2 million
Biden: 81.3 million
Other: 2.9 million
Total: 158.4 million
The difference in vote totals is only 3.3 million, which is very different from how it looked on Election Day, when over 15 million votes had not yet been counted.
There were over 67 million mail-in ballots voted in 2020, which was almost double 2016. In 2024 the Post Office says it delivered over 99 million mail in ballots. I have not been able to find out how many of those were counted, but having 60% of our voting done by mail to me seems excessive, and guaranteed to make fraud impossible to prevent or punish.
…by design.
Frankly, I think there should be legal penalties for states and counties which can’t count their votes within 72 hours.
It’s the 21st Century, dadgummit!
Part of it was, as neo and a few others noted at the time, that California has millions of votes and takes weeks to count them
Except that really is a half-truth. The fact is California counted millions of ballots very quickly, except in a few areas. Alaska took a long time to count too, but it is a far larger state in terms of distance, and stuff like “delays in getting mail-in-ballots” makes some sense. California really doesn’t have that argument, try as they might.
If it was about the magnitude of counting, then how does California explain counting so many on Day 1 and taking so long to count a fraction a month later?
I know the answer: they aren’t being forced to explain.
The Dems have rigged the voting system to prevent any audit and to make fraud undetectable or at least unprovable.
@Leland:Except that really is a half-truth. The fact is California counted millions of ballots very quickly, except in a few areas.
Those “few areas” were over 5 million votes as of a week past Election Day, and 16.1 million have been processed to date, so more than 25% of California’s votes were uncounted a week after Election Day.
how does California explain counting so many on Day 1 and taking so long to count a fraction a month later?
They allow ballots up to 7 days after Election Day and four weeks to cure problem ballots. From the Secretary of State’s site I linked earlier:
California population: 39 mil
France population: 68 mil
As Niketas Choniates notes and documents “[California] allow ballots up to 7 days after Election Day and four weeks to cure problem ballots.”
France counts all its votes within 24 hours.
I see no excuse for California, especially as a hi-tech state with a GDP 25% higher than that of France despite a much lower population.
So, it took weeks to fabricate the fake votes. Not really proof of anything.
My guy loses, it is up to the people running the election to prove to MY satisfaction that the election was fair. The donkeys aren’t even trying. Ergo fraud.
A. Limit postal ballots to (1) civilian employees of the U.S. government posted abroad and any spouse in country with them; (2) servicemen and any spouse living with them; (3) persons under 25 enrolled at a residential campus; (4) miscellaneous persons who are eligible but whose fixed address is in institutional group quarters; (5) people who have applied as homebound persons, and have included a signed attestation from their doctor; (6) people who have applied as frequent travelers and include a signed attestation from their work supervisor that their work takes them out of the county overnight > 50 days a year; (7) people out west who live > 10 miles from the nearest polling station. The consequence of this is that about 87% of the public votes in person. In the first four, a standing order will be set up consequent to questions answered on a standard voter registration form. The last three will require you file a specific application renewable quadrennially.
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B. Set up 1 polling station for every 1,000 residents. New York manages to do this and you can too.
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C. Hold in-person balloting for four hours Friday evening and 11 hours on Saturday. The polls close at 6:00 pm local time. Shouldn’t take more than about a half-hour afterword to clear the queue if there is one.
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D. Make it the law that postal ballots are sent in the mail no later than 50 days before an election. In re November elections, that would be by 15 September or thereabouts. A postal ballot package will include the ballots, and three envelopes; one is marked with the precinct of the voter’s domicile; one is an identifier envelope on which is a printed form to be filled out in pen-and-ink and includes a signature and a thumbprint; and one is a return mailer with a printed return address and postage guaranteed. You put the ballots in the first, the first in the second and the whole package in the third.
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E. As postal ballot mailers return, you have signature check sessions observable by party officials and municipal court judges selected at random for the day. The checkers are teams consisting or a clerk from the Republican side and a clerk from the Democratic side of the board of elections staff. A typical county will have about 15,000 postal ballots returning over about 36 business days. So, each day, the clerks work on the arrivals from the previous business day, which in number should average about 430. Rejected ballots are placed in a lock box with two locks (one for the Republican commissioner’s key, one for the Democratic commissioner’s). Accepted ballots are also placed in similar lock boxes, but one with pigionholes in it, one for each precinct in a given bloc of precincts. The envelopes containing the ballots are placed in the apposite pigeonholes. The mailers with the identifying information are placed in a plastic recepticle with a seal and arrival date noted and also checked off on a printed list with the arrival date noted. The receptacles are stored in the lockbox as well. The last signature check session is to be held on Friday morning before polls open; ballots arriving later are placed in a lock box and not tabulated.
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F. Saturday morning, the lock boxes with the ballots are transported to a gymnasium for tabulation by board of elections staff. All precincts are connected to a traffic desk via phone and e-mail. The staff tabulate the postal ballots returned making use of analog readers which are not networked. The totals for referenda and first-past-the-post contests and the first-round tabulation of ranked-choice contests should be complete for these ballots ‘ere the polls close at 6:00 pm.
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G. As the precinct results are reported via e-mail (subject to verifying canvass later), you collate them with the postal ballot returns. For contests occurring over multiple counties, you report the summary totals to the state board of elections for further tabulation. You should have provisional results within hours. Precinct tabulators should also not be networked. Precinct workers complete the tabulation in their precinct, record on hard copy, and report via e-mail.
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H. Once the totals are attested by the state or county board, you can return the rejected ballots and the late ballots to sender with a note of explanation. A few rejected ballots may be turned over the the sheriff for further inquiry.
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This isn’t that difficult. They Just Don’t Feel Like It.
@Chases Eagles,
To quote Clarence Thomas, it’s impossible to prove a negative. That’s why the burden of proof is on the accuser, not the accused.
Each state would benefit from a sensible electoral calendar to reduce the number of contests on a given election day.
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Have non judicial offices elected for four year terms, judges for 12 year terms.
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Have one general election the third week of May devoted to recalls, ballot propositions, retention-in-office referenda on judges, competitive elections for the judiciary, and referenda or competitive elections on certain offices auxilliary or adjacent to the judiciary (e.g. corporation counsel, state attorney-general, district attorney, sheriff &c). Make use of designating petitions or deposits to regulate ballot access for these contests rather than party primaries.
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Have primary elections the last week of August for offices elected in November.
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In November, elect federal offices the first year of a quadrennial cycle; municipal councils, county councils, mayors, and county executives the 2d year; the governor and state legislature the 3d year; and school bards and miscellaneous offices the fourth year.
My comment stands. “4 weeks to cure problem ballots” is a gimmick believed by fools. No other entity in the United States needs 4 weeks, and you don’t cure ballots, although saying they were curating might be too on the nose for them to admit.
Also, it doesn’t take 7 days to deliver mail in California.
@huxley:I see no excuse for California, especially as a hi-tech state with a GDP 25% higher than that of France despite a much lower population.
Obviously they want fraud to be impossible to prevent, punish, or prove.
@leland:My comment stands. “4 weeks to cure problem ballots” is a gimmick believed by fools.
That is their actual legal process. That is what they really do. They really allow votes up to seven days after election day. They really allow four weeks for people to “cure” problems with their ballots.
Like I said to huxley, it’s obviously designed to allow fraud to be impossible to prevent, punish, or prove. They are saying right out what they are doing, it’s not a mystery. You seem to have the impression I’m defending it. I’m not. I’m just saying how their elections work. They have set them up in such a way that cheating is easy to do and impossible to prove.
Art Deco is on the right track. Anyway, there’s this too:
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/dinesh-dsouza-apologizes-2000-mules-film-2020-election-mark-andrews-donald-trump-d521033e?mod=opinion_lead_pos3
The problem with Trump is that he and his MAGA crowd tend to focus on the shiny (and often false) object while ignoring the real issue. This has the perverse effect of making the people worried about election integrity look like cranks, which only enables bad behavior.
BJ,
Thomas is full of shit on that one. People prove a negative all the time. I can prove I didn’t murder that CEO and I can prove I am not dead. I would think proving a negative clears the most suspects the fastest.
They most certainly can prove the level of fraud is negligible if they want it to be. It used to be. After 2000, I was privileged to examine the voting equipment, software and all procedures for one county here in WA. Most of the deficiencies that I noted dealt with software certification.
I also reviewed the Dominion test and certification reports after 2020. They aren’t even trying beyond a Bart Simpson-nobody-saw-me-you-can’t-prove-it defense.
Back in my space program days, we had a TEMPEST facility. I was the guy that refused to let the Boeing director of Security and Fire Protection, who was escorting a DOD inspector, into my computer room because they weren’t on the access list, until their identities and clearances were verified. The inspector was mighty impressed.
Bauxite, thanks for an example of a deceptive media narrative. At least the Journal had the integrity to put it in “Opinion”. I’m not sure what you’re trying to say about the 2020 election by linking to it without comment.
What’s wrong with D’Souza’s movie is that he didn’t necessarily get the mules on video. Notice that the opinion piece does not say there is anything wrong with the geolocation data that identified the “mules”. Possibly because there isn’t anything wrong with it, or maybe just that the Journal has no evidence. Either way, putting a misleading narrative in Opinion is slightly better than putting it in straight news, though not much.
What’s wrong with D’Souza’s movie, fundamentally, is what the Journal would hesitate to call attention to: that many of those “mules” may have been acting perfectly legally, which is the real scandal. That in too many states our election laws, by design, make fraud impossible to prevent, prove, or punish.
Great clip. It does seem like Buck Sexton could have a better show on his own, without Clay Travis.
California seems to have a “keep counting votes until the Democrat wins” policy. They must have learned a lesson from Florida 2000.
I was sceptical of all the talk about the 81 million votes. Loosen the electoral laws enough and the vote totals go up. In 2020 Democrats did what they could to get every Democrat ballot in, even very dubious ones, but the thing to watch for wasn’t the national popular vote total, but the votes in the swing states. Such serious cheating as there was, was in that handful of states. What happened elsewhere was gratuitous or superfluous or marginal or incidental.
The Economist is saying that “Dinesh D’Souza admits his documentary is fiction” because some of the photos or video he was given of drivers dropping off ballots weren’t of the mules who repeatedly dropped off large numbers of ballots. Did he admit anything more than that? I haven’t heard it. The documentary hasn’t been discredited.
I don’t think very much of D’Souza, though. He seems like a shallow sensationalist to me. He tells the right what it wants to hear, but does he put very much thought or effort into his work?
So eventually we’ll discover that 81 million votes wasn’t really fraudulent at all? Well, when that occurs, then maybe we can investigate why there are 15 “bellwether” counties that have consistently voted for the presidential winner for the past c. 40 years. Except for 2020, when all 15 counties voted for Trump. I’ll wait. /SARC
With the election law as it is in WA, I will be surprised if a Republican ever wins statewide office again.
All mail in ballots, registration up to election day, ballot deposit boxes all over the state, and a dodgy signature verification program. What’s not to like, if you want to “fortify” the election? If the GOP ever wants to be a political player in WA, we have to campaign to change the election laws.
On suggestion I would have – mail the ballots b out, but they can only be returned to polling places where registration and photo ID would be required. Additionally, registration should only be allowed up to a month before election day so the rolls could be cleaned up prior to the election.
I sent these ideas to the GOP chairman here in the state. So far, no reply. Well, I can dream, can’t I?
@J.J. If the GOP ever wants to be a political player in WA, we have to campaign to change the election laws.
As the minority they are getting what they want: pork in exchange for not rocking the boat too much. The election laws are working just fine for them and that’s why you got no reply. Voters in Washington are polarized by geography; the minority candidates east of the Cascades have little to worry about and the ones west have no hope even if the elections are fair.
Niketas Choniates – D’Souza presented a documentary with inaccurate information. So inaccurate that D’Souza is making a public apology, most likely at the advice of his lawyers to minimize the defamation judgement/settlement that he is about to pay.
D’Souza is claiming that True the Vote was responsible for syncing the cell phone GPS to the video. Assuming that D’Souza is telling the truth, that means that True the Vote either lied about syncing the cell phone data to the videos or was so spectacularly incompetent that they allowed D’Souza to release a false and defamatory video based on their work.
True the Vote was also responsible for compiling the cell phone GPS data.
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
Give it up man. The dream is dead. Nothing about D’Souza or True the Vote is reliable or trustworthy. This isn’t a “deceptive media narrative.” It’s just a huckster who got caught.
One major thing was different in this election versus 2020- in 2024 the numbers of ballots left to be counted was far more accurate in the early morning hours of the day after election day. I followed the returns from Philadelphia County in both elections very closely on the PA Government website and in 2020 the numbers of ballots left to count never once matched 1 to 1 with what was being reported in the batches. What I am saying is that Philadelphia County apparently lied about how many ballots were left to count the entire night and produced quite a few more votes than their “ballots remaining” ever once indicated. In 2024, these numbers tracked pretty closely the entire time never once deviating by my eyeballs by more than a couple of hundred votes- in other words if Philadelphia County reported a batch of counted votes of 2500, the number of votes left to count dropped by 2500. I am guessing the GOP worked hard to force the ballot counters to keep track of the numbers and not hide anything.
Also, another big difference- the GOP took seriously getting their voters to use mail-in-ballots this time. One big difference I noticed immediately was that when Arizona did their counted mail-in-votes (votes counted probably the afternoon of election day that had arrived in the mail) drop a few minutes after the polls closed, Trump was much closer in that count than he was in 2020 and he quickly overtook Harris as the day of vote got counted.
I have written it before- you won’t get the Democrats interested in securing mail-in-voting until the GOP drives their turnout in mail-in-vote to 100-110% of a given jurisdiction. In other words- do exactly what it is the Democrats do. This election was a step in that direction.