Apparently, the Harris campaign always knew she would lose
It’s one of those “now it can be told” things. Then again, perhaps it’s a lie. But the current scuttlebutt is that the campaign’s internal polling never showed Harris in the lead.
We often hear that internal polls are different than the polls we peons get to see. Apparently, this is a case of such a discrepancy, and another reason to see public polling as more of an attempt to shape voting behavior than to describe or predict it.
This report also seems to go along with statements about how Biden’s awful record was what doomed Harris rather than her own sorry failure to make a case for herself. But what has long puzzled me is not why she lost, but why so many people voted for her when she was unable to speak coherently on most of the topics of the day, or to answer questions asked of her. I’ve seen a lot of presidential campaigns, but I’ve never seen anything remotely like hers in terms of incompetence. In fact, I’ve never seen any politician so poor at expressing himself or herself, or so oddly disconnected.
Well, perhaps we won’t have Kamala Harris to kick around anymore. Perhaps she’ll segue into some professorship or become head of something like Planned Parenthood; I saw that latter suggestion somewhere and it seemed as though that is something for which she might feel a calling. But, looking at some recent YouTube videos of Harris just now, I see that plenty of people think she’s just great and would like her to run in 2028.
Or maybe they’re bots; that’s possible too.
To see what I”m referring to, just take a look at the comments to this video featuring Walz and Harris thanking their campaign workers, and you’ll see plenty of sentiments like this:
You were both perfect. I’m grieving what could have been. Kamala is the President of my heart.
And these:
So proud of you and Kamala! You’ll always be my President and vice! Trump for JAIL.
Anyone else crying…..so poignant…so tender…she’s speaking to us. It’s devastatingly lovely. How can we give up with such beautiful examples of hope. Thank you Kamala. Thank you Tim.
People voted for her in the tens of millions out of hatred for Trump and “vote blue no matter who.” The smarter ones were aware that she would have just been a figurehead
head of something like Planned Parenthood
Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.
Those comments definitely sound like bots or paid supporters, LOL.
You wouldn’t know it from her video to her supporters.
If you didn’t get enough during the campaign, here’s a short clip that will remind you to be thankful that Kamala isn’t president.
Fast forward to around 7:50 for the clip. Halperin only inserts about a minute of her encouragement.
2WAY TONIGHT 11/26 | Trump Transition News and the Latest on the Democrats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmC-GVMSPU0&t=2119s
So like I said in the open thread, accurate information exists but the legacy media has no interest in reporting it.
All they ever had to do to get these accurate polls is a) ask for them and b) pay for them. They had no intention of doing that. They had no desire for accurate information.
They seem only interested in doing what they can to deceive us, so why are we still looking at any of it? They are doing whatever they can to deliberately poison our perceptions, shouldn’t we stop letting them?
And shouldn’t this fact affect our judgment about when we read about someone like, say, Matt Gaetz, or how the debt ceiling negotiations are going, or a fight over who the Speaker of the House should be, or any other thing that we think is relevant and factual–they are deliberately trying to change our perception of it to benefit the Dems and everything you read about it, including the “and” and “the”, should be treated like a time-share pitch.
The flip side to this is that Trump’s big disadvantage in campaign spending was offset, according to one of his spokesmen, by most of it going toward “earned media”, i. e. getting his name in the news, which is not very expensive. Legacy media hates Trump, but they love to cover Trump.
Something to consider the next time you see a legacy media story about What Trump Said or What Trump Did–keeping his name before the public and profiting from even negative coverage is what Trump has spent thirty years excelling at. And rolling our eyes at What Trump Said Now or What Trump Did Now is missing the point of why Trump did or said it (if he did, since so much of it is exaggerated or invented).
Marisa: “vote blue no matter who.”
Good phrase. Or: Better dead than vote red. (Ironic, given the “better Red than dead” line from Cold War days.) Which is a similar mirror-image attitude of my saying that I’d vote Democrat over my dead body.
I was also rather surprised that Democrat internal polls were so different from the external polls. Which is one more nail in the coffin for credibility.
Agreed and agreed.
Her incoherence wasn’t the only thing that turned me off. Her double-think messaging turned me off. Such as the “evolved, moderate” Kamala of 2024 versus the much more radical Kamala from 2020 and before. I wonder if her incoherence was a reflection of the difficulty she had in juggling the 2024 “moderate to fool the voters” Kamala versus the real, woke radical Kamala. Her incoherence may have simply been her difficulty at being a credible liar.
But Kamala was also quite capable of speaking out of both sides of her mouth regarding current, 2024 issues. You don’t have to compare 2024 Kamala versus 2020 Kamala. When Nasrallah was killed, Kamala sent out a message of approval. I don’t have a ready link, but I recall reading that when someone in a crowd expressed an anti-Israel opinion–maybe about all the Gazans killed– Kamala said that was a good point.
I have also read that Kamala’s campaign ads in Jewish areas versus Muslim areas like Dearborn gave different, contradictory messages.
How did so many vote for her? Like Neo says, THAT is the question.
The popular delusions that have gripped the country seem mysterious until you recall the book, “Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds.”
This has happened before. It’s hard to explain, except that humans are susceptible to it. It seems a part of our nature. For more see this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_Popular_Delusions_and_the_Madness_of_Crowds
The Dems are such sheep. Some might say they are slaves.
I can sort of understand why someone would vote against Trump, but I can’t understand that millions voted for Harris.
And now we find out that she’s a drunk. Allegedly.
JJ
The biggest delusion is the CAGW scam.
@Gringo:How did so many vote for her? Like Neo says, THAT is the question.
It’s easy. They weren’t voting for HER. They were voting for the Party of Government and the Top Men who actually run everything.
One of my FDR-era relatives, early in Trump’s first term, complained “he doesn’t know how to run the country”. But we’re not a country to be run, we are a free people who can and should run ourselves. The Party of Government does not believe this and thinks that experts and Top Men should run the country for our benefit, that’s it’s self evident they would do a better job of managing us than we do of managing ourselves.
Kamala is a pure sociopath. She knows right from wrong.
Democrats seem to be herd animals.Just follow the leader.
Vote for Kamala?
Why?
It appears what they knew is that the polling they were paying for was telling them things which differed from the polling issued by media organs, Quinnipiac, &c.
“But we’re not a country to be run, we are a free people who can and should run ourselves.”
Niketas is spot on… the only time gov’t should intervene is when specifically permitted or to address gross “chaos.”
Other than that…stay outta my lane
Yet one wonders did the Democrats Propaganda Ministry know as well? I have the feeling they did and have no problem lying to their public.
well they ran the country into the ground, but they thought they could continue the scam, I think several factors played into the matter, the prodigious efforts of scott presler, in registering from sea to shining sea, the team of whatley and trump, which were on rapid response, and then there were other elements,
that was a pathetic effort, if I were an honest progressive, I would be embarassed how little she did to push the plan that she said to believe in, maybe she never believed in anything but destruction, like one of the Old Gods, or like the Eponymous She of H Ridder Haggards tales,
One shouldn’t ignore the element of self-interest in Harris’s campaign managers revealing, post-election, that their internal polling always showed Trump ahead: it absolves the people running the campaign of responsibility for her defeat. The problem was the candidate herself and/or the Biden record she had no choice but to run on.
Given how bad a candidate Harris was, and the catastrophic record of the Biden administration — IMHO, definitely the worst in all American history (including James Buchanan) — I am amazed at how close the election was. I am pleased Trump won, but I am not inclined to gloat.
“The biggest delusion is the CAGW scam.” – Cornhead
That’s just a part of the left’s delusional thinking. Although it’s a big part and is based on fear of a fictional calamitous future.
Another delusion that has spread quite wide is that this is a systemically racist country established on stolen land.
Tying into that is the myth that an egalitarian society is possible. DIE is the weapon being used to further that goal. Diversity, equity, and inclusion – such a high-minded idea. But it’s actually a tool for eliminating merit and hard work. Egalitarianism, bah!
The other delusion that’s quite evident is that men can become women or women can become men, and transgender men should be able to play in women’s sports.
Those are all part of the madness that the left is advancing as their program to fundamentally transform America. And millions have bought in.
Of course, Kamals never said anything about this while running for POTUS. But she sure is on the record as being all in when she was VP and a Senator.
JJ
An Instructor at the University of Nebraska College of Law wrote an law review article asserting as a fact that biological men had NO advantage over women in athletic contests.
I complained to the Editor of the Nebraska Law Review and the Dean.
The Dean wrote me back and defended the author and her so-called scholarship. I recently emailed the new Law Review editor and asked for a correction. No word.
I was on the Creighton Law Review and we never would have allowed such insanity to see the light of day.
So maybe Harris’s real game was not to lose … too badly.
That would explain her refusals — I don’t think it was inability — to answer questions clearly. And her dependence on word salad as time filler. The old Rope-a-Dope strategy.
Well, OK. But pity the next Dem candidate, perhaps even Harris herself, to seek campaign donations.
I also wonder if the whole Dem/Deep State World didn’t know, deep down, that Harris was a crap candidate with a crap record who was going to lose.
Of course, Trump sealed that with a sweep of the EC, the popular vote and both Houses of Congress,
These are the reasons that our opponents have basically rolled over, our cities are not on fire, and we are not on the brink of civil war.
To be sure, there will be much passive-aggressive resistance, but not like what might have been.
I’m not exactly buying this. MI, WI, PA were decided by about 250,000 collectively. Not much spread across three states. Polls always contain a margin of error. Add a dash of wishful thinking, and I find it hard to believe they thought they were certain to lose.
“But what has long puzzled me is not why she lost, but why so many people voted for her when she was unable to speak coherently on most of the topics of the day, or to answer questions asked of her.”
For years I’ve been publicly bemoaning the fact that even if all the elections were honestly run, at least 40% of our fellow Americans vote Democrat. Each year the acts and omissions of Democrat Party politicians and spokespeople convinces me that Americans will finally get it, and then over 40% of our fellow Americans still vote Democrat. It’s damn crazy.