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Why would anyone continue to want to elect Democrats in California? — 19 Comments

  1. I thought you were going to comment on the unemployment insurance skyrocketing for California business owners because the state defaulted on a federal loan.

    Or the price of gas increasing by something like 60 cents a gallon from it’s already highest in the nation level.

    But this one is bad too.

  2. Most of my Californian family members seem to actually believe the “Trump is Hitler” line. They still believe he said neo-Nazis were fine people, even though I have provided the link to what he actually said. I have given up. Having a relationship with these people means not talking about politics. For my next visit, I will have to bite my tongue until it bleeds since there is now a 17-year-old “transgender” in the group. I think this is tragic for this young man and his entire future. His mother is as left-wing as they come and I have no doubt she has encouraged this.

  3. 🙂 Guess ‘Thangs have changed since Reagan was Gov. Know a couple women who live out there, and another one whose husband (a friend of mine) recently died. All liberals or progressives. One woman runs a blog is a diehard Democrat—still in shock ‘n intense morning about the Harris Loss…to help console her I sent the Don’t Cry, Cryo!.

    Can’t even imagine living in California…

  4. I might even venture that Philadelphia woman has morphed into the outside counties of Philadelphia. Weeks leading to the election, Harris signs might have outnumbered Trump’s in some very nice neighborhoods outside of Philadelphia.

  5. I hate to bring up Facebook posts, but some friends of mine will speak their political minds there. A recent one went something like this: “Boy, won’t those Trump voters be shocked when Trump’s new policies are enacted and inflation becomes much worse than it was under Biden.” Then a few of his friends concur.

    Well, neither he nor I know for sure what will happen going forward. However, does this guy have an inkling of what causes inflation? Does he remember that it was actually low under Trump’s first term? Has he noticed that the stock market is up a lot since Trump won? Does he understand that the big money in the stock market includes many smart people who have a pretty good understanding of the economy?

  6. And homeless Californians will be able to commute to their tiny homes on high speed rail! Powered by wind and solar!

  7. ”However, does this guy have an inkling of what causes inflation?”

    His thinking is like that of most cults: a breakdown of people and events into good & bad. Good things are caused by good people. Bad things are caused by bad people. Inflation is a bad thing. Trump is a bad person. Therefore inflation is caused by Trump (or more generally, by Republicans). If you could ever get him to see that at least this most recent bout of inflation was caused by Democrats, he would instantly flip into believing that inflation is a good thing.

  8. mkent,

    There weren’t any explanations on the thinking involved in that post, but I wonder if he bought into the Harris rhetoric that inflation is cause by corporate price gouging. Then along mkent’s line: Trump will enable bad corporations, then bad corporations will engage in more price gouging.

    Personally, I thought the price gouging claim was so absurd that I probably erroneously felt that no one could believe it.

  9. Another interesting piece of the puzzle is that California voters vote mostly conservative on the ballot propositions. Proposition 36, a tough(er) on crime change to the previous proposition 47, was adopted by the voters with about 3/4 of the vote. This after Newsom and many Democrat officials campaigned wholeheartedly against it. An effort to raise the minimum wage, proposition 32, was defeated albeit narrowly. Proposition 5 to gut proposition 13 by allowing increases in property taxes to be passed with 55% instead of 67% of the vote was defeated.

    The conservative tilt in the propositions was despite the Democrat Attorney General putting wholly misleading titles on them in the ballot.

    In the same election, the voters kept the Democrats’ supermajority in the legislature. They voted for the execrable Adam Schiff for the Senate. It looks like they will be able to flip several Republican seats in the Congress.

  10. ”I wonder if he bought into the Harris rhetoric that inflation is cause by corporate price gouging.”

    Maybe, but I doubt it. I can’t speak to your particular example, but generally, the causal order goes the other way. It’s not “Republicans cause price gouging…price gouging causes inflation…inflation is bad…therefore Republicans are evil.” It’s “Republicans are evil…inflation is bad…therefore Republicans cause inflation” then — maybe — try to find a mechanism by which the Republicans cause the evil (price gouging), but maybe not. That last step isn’t really necessary.

    Which is why even if you can disprove the price gouging (prices have gone up 50% on items with only a 3% profit margin), the “conclusion” that Republicans are evil doesn’t go away. Because it’s not a conclusion. It’s an axiom.

    Which is why, as Neo says, a mind is so hard to change.

  11. mkent,

    Also in this fantasy world all the producers of food and owners of grocery stores are evil Republicans. For some reason these evil price gougers didn’t gouge for like 40 years until three years ago when it suddenly dawned on them to do it.

  12. The childless Philadelphia cat lady concludes,

    “The majority of America is with me. But this is also a warning to the Republicans. If they don’t deliver and if the Democrats manage to get the message and get their act together with a platform that addresses our needs, we swing voters will swing again.”

    That is a very salient warning. Our side had best take it seriously. BUT . . .

    even if she and other swing voters swing back, those among them with functioning minds and memories now know, in some substantive measure, that

    the establishment’s assurances are to be taken with grains of salt, and its gaslighting forays have now been seen to be nakedly transparent,

    and y’know what? — the swung-back voters will be unable to un-know and un-see it.

    That may well comprise Trump’s most lasting legacy, especially if Trump and the Republicans “don’t deliver.” The toothpaste is out of the tube either way.

  13. well they are economically illiterate, scientifically ignorant and logically impaired other than that, they are fine

  14. “The majority of America is with me. But this is also a warning to the Republicans. If they don’t deliver . . .”

    Is Trump’s agenda supposed to turn things around in his single 4 year term what was decades in the making? How much time will Americans allow before they claim his policies are a failure if there are a couple of steps back before the fruits of deregulation start to be felt. Maybe I’m wrong on this, but I would imagine the turnaround could take time. And who knows what kind of resistance there will be.

    And I think it was Musk who said there will likely be some pain involved in the DOGE process.

    Shouldn’t Trump preface his agenda with some kind of appeal for patience?

  15. Resistance, Trump proofing, immigration, the Democrats will destroy themselves on these issues.

  16. Fullmoon, at 5:09 p.m. wrote:

    “$62,500.00 per shed.
    Expensive, even for California”

    It’s actually $625,000 per tiny home. So: Bad arithmetic, but your conclusion is correct.

  17. My aunt and uncle, as teenagers, left Oklahoma for LA circa 1939-40. My aunt left with her parents and sister. My uncle then followed his girlfriend and future wife. Like the song says, they found California a Garden of Eden. Fast forward 8+ decades. My cousins see the mess that Democrats have made of California. They are Republicans with a capital R.

    My brother’s children all live in the Bay Area. All Democrats. On one trip to the Bay Area, my brother took a photo of a rural yard full of Trump signs, which his family found hilarious.

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