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  1. Those were hilarious. That someone like Mona Charen can find political common cause with Jonathon Alter tells us that Conservative Inc. was always a fraud.

  2. I believe this is the first time I’ve watched any clips of Joy Reid. It’s shocking that she is paid for her commentary. You really have to try hard to be as wrong about as many things as her.

  3. Who is this JVL person, the one calling the voters “stupid”?

    Can he install an HVAC system? Can he navigate a refrigerated truckload through several states (and the accompanying paperwork)? Can he get a thousand cows milked multiple times in a day? Can he diagnose funny car noises and fix them? Can he even hang drywall correctly, change a child’s diaper, alter a wedding dress to fit nicely, or solve a leaking roof?

    He really got on my nerves; what did you think of him?

  4. As I posted yesterday with a graphic where all red states in the election were labeled “dumbf*ckinstan” (note the insult to Muslims), and all the Harris states were labeled “america”, yes they really think they are so smart and the rest of the country is stupid. Hearing this a lot.

  5. it’s shocking that she is paid for her commentary

    At the rate things are going she may not being getting paid for anything for much longer. Soon she’ll likely be allowed to pursue other opportunities. One great thing about the new media landscape is that these truly talentless and unlikable propagandists who commanded 7 to 8 figure jobs in the Legacy Media environment will likely find no significant audience in this new world of Youtube podcasting and the like. But who knows?

  6. I seem to recall Alter, ca. 1998, as a common-and-garden Democrat employed in magazine journalism.. Not admirable, but ordinary. I also seem to recall he had a tour on the staff of The Washington Monthly during a period when Charles Peters was advancing a dissenting editorial line, but I may have confused him with someone else. More than any other time in recent decades, the left ca. 1980 was chastened and self-critical. He has a property in common with Hendrick Hertzberg. He has a great deal of fancy education, but his writing is quite banal.
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    Not sure whatever motivated Mona Charen, but it was not whatever motivated me (or, I suspect, aught but a single-digit minority of street-level Republicans). Ditto George Will (who, forty years ago, produced the gold standard in topical commentary).
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    Jonathan Last 20 years ago maintained a group blog with two other men. Neither of the other two appears to produce political commentary anymore.

  7. She ran a “flawless” campaign, defined by the celebrities and influencers she brought on board. And then come to find out, she paid these people!! I like the one comment I saw about this–if you really think the opponent is Hitler, you need to be paid?? $1,000,000 to billionaire Oprah!! Turns out the bulk of the billion dollar election budget went to people, not real campaign apparatus. So Democratic Party.

  8. I would hold that guy to keep illegals in his attic to hide from ICE deportation. Oh pretty please get some MS-13 gang members upstairs. They won’t eat much pretty be a problem to keep.

  9. “Can he install an HVAC system? Can he navigate a refrigerated truckload through several states (and the accompanying paperwork)? Can he get a thousand cows milked multiple times in a day? Can he diagnose funny car noises and fix them? Can he even hang drywall correctly, change a child’s diaper, alter a wedding dress to fit nicely, or solve a leaking roof?” Bluegreen kayak

    Hear, hear!

  10. What a bunch of ignorant, ill-informed clowns. The only thing I will give them credit for is being able to extract millions of $$ from their employer while being so completely and thoroughly incompetent.

  11. Bluegreen kayak:

    I believe it’s Jonathan Last. I wrote about him recently, I think, but I can’t locate it at the moment. He’s awful.

  12. I think the problem for these Legacy Media personalities is that sitting on ass and opining are only marketable skills if you are charming enough, don’t get exposed saying very many indefensible, blatant lies, and don’t obviously hold any potential audience you may want largely in contempt and disdain. If you’ve spent years accusing half the country of being stupid, racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, Islamophobic, xenophobic, antisemetic Nazis at the top of your lungs while lying about the economy, the state of the border, and cheering for awful lawfare against one prominant figure and his supporters, you can’t be surprised that people may not to watch or listen to you.

  13. According to J Alter, a broad coalition of Americans of all races, ethnicities, and economic diversity voting for Trump, is a threat to democracy.
    The level of outright contempt by these people against those they deem less than, is sickening.
    I will enjoy musing on their lamentations.

  14. physicsguy
    As I posted yesterday with a graphic where all red states in the election were labeled “dumbf*ckinstan” (note the insult to Muslims),

    That link you posted had 303 characters. When you have such a super-long link, you would be advised to either embed the link (name + URL) or use tinyurl. With tinyurl, the number of characters goes from 303 to 28. It’s free. You can also change the tinyurl name to make it more topical.

    https://tinyurl.com/395n2c7t

  15. Well they’re not all women, although the men are not what I’d call alpha males, but the phrase “the lamentations of their women” comes to mind.

  16. Looking at a State Map of the US versus a County Map of the US, shows just how little area they have. Yes, pop. centers, but not where the day to day US lives. The one that make life easy for them by providing what they eat, ware, energy.

  17. Are YOU prepared to put undocumented aliens in your Attic? I sure am. That sounds sane

  18. I used to really like Bill Kristol. So, during the Bulwark clip, I waited and waited to hear what he’d have to say. Would he be as morose as the equally-traitorous Mona Charen?

    When he finally speaks, it basically in praise of Trump’s historic achievement. So, I guess it’s over for him as a never-Trumper. Kristol seems to begin to trim his sails to follow the winds instead of talking against them. He’s a better businessman than Charen, I’ll give him that.

    Is the never-Trump grift is pretty much over? Maybe J. Last was lamenting the end of the grift here, and that’s part of his sorrow? Same for Charen?

  19. I seem to recall a discussion here about The Bulwark‘s IRS 990 forms, on which amounts listed suggested the average contributor was paid about $37,000 per year. Charen has a column distributed by the Creator’s Syndicate, but I don’t imagine online commentary nets you squat. She had a salaried position at the Ethics and Public Policy Center for six years (policy shops have a habit of wasting salary money on publicists); her contract expired in 2021 and that was it. Her career in topical commentary was at its peak ca. 1995, when she had a regular seat on CNN’s Capital Gang. Her husband is a Washington BigLaw partner and they have for some time lived in a home in Northern Virginia which would fetch $1.6 million. She’s not in it for the money. This is how she prefers to present herself (and, perhaps, what she actually thinks). Now, someone who tells you (as did Charen in 2020) that a vote for Biden was a vote for a return to decency is either an utter fool or an epic liar. (She’s also offered defenses of the lawfare campaign contra Trump).
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    Trump’s signatures are (1) enforcement of the immigration laws via (2) constructing a wall on the Southern border, (3) a more circumspect foreign policy which is guided by reasons-of-state and makes more sparing use of military deployments, and (4) a more combative stance in trade negotiations. Puts him somewhere on the Barbara Jordan – Henry Kissinger – Richard Gephardt axis. The antic antagonism to him among people who have no obvious pecuniary reason to take the stances they do and who have no excuse to not know better strongly suggests there’s a 10th planet there. What it is, who knows?

  20. Bluegreen kayak:
    Who is this JVL person, the one calling the voters “stupid”?
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    My impression was that he was calling out other Dems for having that attitude… he seems to have called the results correctly earlier in the evening, and been less doctrinaire.

    Regarding Joy Reid – the most interesting aspect of the clips I’ve seen is how the other white panelists regularly defer to her, in no relation whatsoever to the weight of what she is saying… they all conform to the new pecking order.

  21. jonathan last used to be funny at the weekly standard, and on his own blog, but Trump apparently broke him,

    like some of those psycho Bibi haters, he was kept out of office four times,

  22. The thing about all those skills JVL mentioned is that I can find a Mexican to do any of them (not the same Mexican) here in Mesa. I can also get a virtually new set of tires mounted and balanced for $200.

    They’re called removes; someone buys a new vehicle and has the standard tires replaced with a preferred set. They can’t be sold as new, so they are “used” even though they still have the nubs.

    So one can imagine the horror at having to pay realistic wages to the people who do the dirty work. One of my neighbors left his electric business to one of his sons. If the kid could just find another electrician, then he could take on that big contract. . . .

    Meanwhile dad finally got his big sailboat sold off, which was his last tie to California. If he left it at a marina in Long Beach CA would be demanding taxes.

    Dad may help me install a Tesla charger. He’s already told me how a $50 quad breaker avoids installing a sub breaker box. He’ll sit in a chair drinking the beer I provide while I do the work, and advise me if I am setting up a future electrical fire.

  23. Oh, and winter is coming, you know, which means a low of 34. I expect to obtain some rather excellent tamales from the abuela who has a pop-up over on 96th and Broadway. She has a grandson who can deal with that wrinkled fender on the Mazda. . . .

  24. It was a good night for Nicolle Wallace because she took care to heavily sedate herself early on.

  25. Weirdly, I am becoming fond of Van Jones, the short-lived Green Jobs Czar for Obama, lately a CNN commentator.

    Sure, I don’t agree with Jones on just about any policy, but he is refreshingly honest for his ilk:
    _______________________________________________

    I’m miserable. What do you want me to say? This is terrible. Nobody thought we would have undivided government. We thought if Trump snuck in there, we would at least have Hakeem Jeffries standing in the way to try to save it….

    This is just a horrible weekend … Don’t ask me any questions. It might make me burst into tears. This is horrible.

    [We Democrats need] therapy. Therapy. We are all going to therapy.

    Why are we here? If you are a Democrat, all we can say is, We hope that Susie [Trump’s Chief of Staff] decides to take a vacation and they hire some terrible people to make some mistakes to give us a chance. Right now, they have everything [the Electoral College, the national popular vote, the Supreme Court, the White House, and both houses of Congress].

    And we’re just sitting here with a dunce cap on. At this time last week, we thought we were the smartest people in the world. We thought Donald Trump was an idiot. We thought his campaign made no sense. And it turned out they were smarter than us and we don’t have anything to say.

    I just sit here, pretend I know something. Here’s what I know, everybody I know is miserable. Everybody is on these Zoom calls. Nobody’s got any good ideas and it’s really going to take us a while to figure this out.

    We got whooped. We got whooped, and we did not understand that.

    https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2024/11/13/schadenfreude-alert-van-jones-melts-down-over-the-miserable-state-of-the-democratic-party-n4934239
    _______________________________________________

    Devastating, but true, and Van Jones is willing to admit it.

  26. neo:

    We don’t agree about everything, but we often find the same things interesting. 🙂

    I’ll copy this comment to your topic.

  27. That these people actually believed that this fraud, Kamala Harris, was a viable & appealing alternative, even though her own party overwhelmingly rejected her presidential campaign in 2019/20 (Joe Sestak got more votes) & as a DEI/Affirmative Action VP did nothing to provide substance except her unhinged laugh and a proclivity to lie about “her values” and positions. She’s as phony as a $3 bill & thank god the American people chose DJT. I can only conclude that these people are shameless hacks. We dodged a bullet…again.

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