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  1. 7 Lessons for Democrats to Learn
    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/11/7_lessons_for_democrats_to_learn.html

    Not too bad. Nothing special though. Here’s the bone I wish to pick:

    3. Not understanding the economy. The messaging from the Biden/Harris administration on the economy has been erratic and disconnected from reality. First it was “There’s no problem.” Then it was “this is temporary inflation.” Next, they landed on the message of “The economy is doing great; we have numbers to prove it.” This line played poorly with voters, since they were being told they were ignorant about something they were coping with daily. The issue from the start of her campaign was that she never seemed to understand the impact of the economy and come up with realistic plans to tackle it. Instead, she focused on price-gouging, labeling Big Business as the source of the country’s economic woes when in reality, it was the Biden/Harris spending that caused it.

    Then there is my morning financial news on Fox Business today. The host speaks of “tax and spend” Democrats. Yes, well… Very conventional, and while not wrong it misses the crux of the problem. Also, if you are a voter with his or her hand outstretched waiting for some goodies, then “tax and spend” doesn’t sound so bad.

    But the reality is that the Democrat party is interested in primarily one thing: Looting the fat federal Treasury. Maybe some of that money flows to needy people, but that’s really a secondary (or lower) concern.

  2. 7 Lessons for Democrats to Learn – good article, TommyJay.

    4 and 5 would be great ‘Bones’ to pick also; however, I’m gonna go with ‘Bone’ #7. The dividing up of America made it impossible to form a coalition for victory.

    The left spent the last four-plus years dividing the U.S. population, pitting elements against one another. When the time came to unite, they couldn’t do it. For example, how can you be pro-women but advocate for men playing in women’s sports? They took some groups, such as blacks, for granted, simply assuming they would vote for Kamala.

    Yeah, the Left has been dividing America for longer than “four-plus years” – tho their assault on women’s sports during Biden’s admin may have been all that a lot of women could take.

    Then there was the FBI swamp critters working with the activist Public School admins & teachers to take control over ‘Mom’s kid’ and place it under School Authority. Speaking of ‘Mom’s kid’ – what decent mom wants her little girl going thru some bottom surgery to convert her privates to privates that look like a boy’s privates?!?!?! Ditto on mom’s little boy…

    Has the infamous Pendulum finally started its swing back to the Right?

  3. Why would we want Democrats to learn lessons? Let’s keep them out of office!!! The Monday Morning quarterbacking by Conservatives on waht the Democrats could’ve done to win bugs the heck out of me.

  4. As expected, the talking heads in the MSM, with some exceptions , are blaming Trump’s victory on the stupidity, ignorance, and intolerance of the American racist, misogynistic voter (I know, I must have omitted some pertinent adjectives that have been tossed out to describe the despicable American voter..)

    Yep, for liberal progressives, it’s always the “other guy” that’s always stupid and intolerant and just does not know what they are doing.

    Trump will need to move real real fast to accomplish his agenda. Let’s hope he will not have to deal with “republicans” who are intent on sandbagging him.

  5. so the omaha gambit was crushed like a herd of zebras on marlon perkins wild kingdom

    there is this inveterate notion of trying to give the dems tips, why when your enemy is destroying himself, or herself, leave him be,

    it look like it was still too big to steal in the House and the Electoral College, in the Senate it’s a close run thing, with ballot dumps all over,

    the Dems policy choices have been nearly uniformly terrible, following DEI/WEF/directives,in every single instance, we see how this has wrecked most of Western Europe, the East is mostly immune, Poland is a close run thing,

  6. The Dems are busy learning the wrong lessons, no reason to get in their way. But it won’t last, there’s smart people there who want to get back into power.

    One thing we’ve learned is that the legacy media has burned all its credibility with moderates and independents. Most people now get their news and politics elsewhere.

    Because the Left always projects and they’ve been astroturfing so long, they can no longer tell the difference between authenticity and verisimilitude. They are high on their own supply, they think the legacy media is mainstream and objective, so now they are going to try to create astroturfed new media to try to talk to the hillbillies in the language they understand. They tried this with talk radio in the 2000s, with nothing to show for it. They may not be more successful this time.

    But elections are only one piece of the puzzle. They still make up the staff of our public institutions and government. This may take decades to fix, most seriously concerning being the progressive takeover of the military. We may not be able to fight a war for years, and maybe we should think hard about how or whether to escalate the conflicts we are already part of.

  7. sdferr,

    I enjoyed the blue norther’ video. Fascinating! I’ve lived in the mid, mid-west for a lot of my life, and Texas, and I have experienced lesser versions of that many times. Some 35 degree swing days, if not more. As he mentions in the video, it’s very visible in Texas. You can see it rolling across the sky, from very far away, for quite some time. I wonder if that was the inspiration for, “Ghost Riders in the Sky?”

  8. @Cornhead:Check out this amazing change story.

    I don’t think it sounds authentic. If she’s a SF Democrat activist so deep in Dem political circles as recently as the DNC, which she attended in person, how does she “[find] myself at Donald Trump’s official election night party” so quickly? Seems like she’s a hired gun. That’s fine, there’s a need for such people, but this is the “verisimilitude” I’m talking about, and we need to be wary of accepting narratives at face value.

    Incidentally she doesn’t seem to have changed her left-wing politics. And this is the problem we’re going to face even with authentic refugees from the Dems, that Republicans will become the party of the people who enabled the left-wing takeover of government and institutions in the first place.

  9. Except for the occasional laptop—I have been building My own Computers for a long long time. Usually name them after the cases I build them in. The Apevia case I have now has had at least two builds in it, and the newest build in it still gets called the ‘Apevia’ main computer.

    Take the ‘Old’ build out still intact—MoBo, CPU, and memory…plus maybe the GPU if new one is being added in ‘New’ build. Take my next favorite case—remove that intact build out and put the ‘Old’ build into it. Ditto for the third favorite case. Used to have like 5 desktops, but have cut down to 3 recently—main, test (‘Rose’ for Rosewell case), and TV computer for media library and Pluto TV.

    Recently updated BIOS in ‘Apevia’ PC and immediately noticed a slow boot—like from the normal 10-11 seconds from MoBo beep to Win11 Pro OS > to like 30 seconds for the new BIOS!?! That was earlier last month. Checked today and they had a new BIOS available – installed with auto flash utility and am now back to the 10-11 seconds boot.

    Most all my builds have been in that 10-11 sec range, and none have had new BIOS showing up so often. Am suspecting the problem is with the Intel® Core™ i9-13900K CPU—since have read that it can have issues. Maybe the Z790M MoBo’s all need updated also w/ that CPU. Great performance other than the BIOS apparently needs updated often…

  10. On Cornhead’s changer article: when she was describing the Democratic Nat. Convention the image I immediately got was all the “citizens” of the Capital in Hunger Games. I can see from a farther perspective how the D elite have evolved into District 1, so I would guess her description is correct.

  11. Dixie County, Florida property tax arrived Saturday. Dixie county might not be super populated, no fancy High Rises, no big shopping malls, no big grocery stores, no music halls or fancy museums, but my property taxes were very low until last year.

    Last year or maybe it was year before (?) they started charging me $25 for each pole barn and shed extension w/ roof over both. They only counted three (have four) so that has been $75 more in tax. First came here in 2009 and property taxes was less than $200 if paid by November 30.

    $342.42 if paid by November 30 this year – pole barns can get expensive in Dixie county…

  12. “it won’t last, there’s smart people there who want to get back into power.”

    That is a very logical thing to say, Niketas. Typically that is what has happened when a party receives a drubbing in a national election, they figure what they have to do, plus a natural “rebound” effect and soon they are more competitive again.

    But I wonder if it’s going to take the Dems a lot longer this time. They have been going down the hard left road for a long time and it may not be easy for them to switch gears even if the voters are getting more and more turned off by it. Just look at what happened to Seth Moulton, a Dem congressman from Massachusetts. He made a mildly critical comment about trans, possibly their worst issue, “doesn’t want [his] daughters getting run over on a playing field by a male or former male” and he is now being excoriated. The party “activists” are fire-breathing leftists and like all other fire-breathing leftists they brook not even the mildest dissent from their ideology. It may be a while before Dems reconnect with the middle Americans they have lost.

  13. FOAF – we agree on something?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! 😉

    Have to respect that Massachusetts congressman – maybe a good sign of more ‘Cracking‘ in their ranks.

    It may be a while before Dems reconnect with the middle Americans they have lost.

    Humble me ain’t a proponent of that ‘Don’t kick them whilst they’re down‘ – baloney…they shouldn’t have been in my face or in my way to begin with.

    We have lots of good RWM (right-wing media) now, and they need to start broadcasting 24/7 when these left-wing “smart people” ‘n their ilk continue to stand in the way of what Trump is going to try and accomplish. Blast it so loud that even their MSM can’t resist repeating it…

    Take even more of “middle Americans” from them…don’t let’em recover!

  14. I wanted to post an AI of Trump and Musk dancing to Staying Alive, but can’t find it now.
    It is hilarious

  15. The NYTimes reports that Trump is selecting Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida for Secretary of State.

    This makes sense, except for the fact that Mike Benz, who was posted as a cybersecurity official at SoS under Trump I, has fingered the nest of State bureaucrats for being agents of international censorship — replete with funding carrots and sticks or US trade threats — for being the nexus of political subversion, here and abroad promoting cyber-censorship.

    Is Rubio equiped to ferret out the President’s traitors to Liberty?

    I have serious doubts — but this appointment may hinge on who Rubio hires on to help him. WATCH this pot carefully.

  16. @ JohnTyler > “Trump will need to move real real fast to accomplish his agenda. Let’s hope he will not have to deal with “republicans” who are intent on sandbagging him.”

    (Repeated on the Trump Appointments post; the Bee is too good to miss.)

    To those who are already pessimistic about the GOP majority in Congress, I am reluctant to point out that The Babylon Bee has an almost perfect score in
    predicting political events.

    https://babylonbee.com/news/congressional-republicans-say-theyre-working-hard-to-figure-out-how-to-squander-the-next-two-years

  17. @ Lee Also > “Why would we want Democrats to learn lessons? Let’s keep them out of office!!! ”

    That’s a good point, but I suggest that the Democrats who should learn these lessons aren’t reading American Thinker (or any other part of the “right wing media ecosystem” that apparently crushed the poor outnumbered regime media).

    The ones who could profit from the lessons already know the facts, and either didn’t point out the problems to whoever was making decisions, or were not listened to (most likely both).

    However, pointing out the mistakes your enemies make (they went past being “opponents” a long time ago) might aid in not falling prey to the same ones yourself.

  18. I don’t think it sounds authentic. If she’s a SF Democrat activist so deep in Dem political circles as recently as the DNC, which she attended in person, how does she “[find] myself at Donald Trump’s official election night party” so quickly?

    –Niketas Choniates

    I was an SF progressive activist through the 80s and 90s, though not nearly so high-profile. When I changed in response to 9-11, I changed in a matter of months.

    However, such change usually doesn’t happen out of the blue, but is accompanied longer, deeper changes within.

    Let Evan Barker tell it:
    ____________________________________

    How could the Democratic elites so fundamentally misunderstand the pain of the American people? How dare they?

    The truth is, I’d been slowly disconnecting from the party. When I volunteered to work at the Democratic National Convention this year, I was hoping to feel inspired again. Instead, when I got there, I encountered the same social snobbery as always, with consultants and higher-ups looking down on volunteers. Donor suites and corporate media suites intermingled in the same area, and extremely rich people mindlessly chanted “joy” and “respect.” Harris had no policies or programs on her website, and yet, an arena of tens of thousands seemed deliriously high, spellbound by her identity as a woman of color running for president. Her political emptiness allowed them to project their own hopes and desires onto her.

    –Evan Barker
    ____________________________________

    I saw Barker on Megyn Kelly’s show. She seemed sincere to me.

  19. Related:
    “Harris Campaign’s Lack of Budgeting, Dumb Spending Decisions Led to Massive Debt;
    “Maybe stop spending a fortune on celebrities? Believe it or not, they love capitalism and making money!“—
    https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/11/harris-campaigns-lack-of-budgeting-dumb-spending-decisions-led-to-massive-debt/
    Key Graf:
    “… No wonder the Harris campaign flooded my email inbox with fundraising requests. This line hit hard in Jasmine Wright’s article at NOTUS:…”

  20. @huxley:I saw Barker on Megyn Kelly’s show. She seemed sincere to me.

    People on TV often do. How did she get invited to Trump’s election party? She just says she “found herself there”. I’m afraid she didn’t. She knows perfectly well why she was invited there, and who invited her, and who admitted her, and what conversations preceded that, but she chose skip over all that. Knowing those details would help me determine if her narrative corresponds to reality.

    There are far too many grifters who try to take advantage of these small triumphs of the Right. Remember all the Tea Party grifts, who would pop up and seek donation but do nothing with them?

  21. The New York Times is the last place I’d look for insight on Trump’s thinking. Except maybe The Nation or Al-Jazeera.

  22. Ref – Karmi on November 11, 2024 at 5:57 pm

    We have lots of good RWM (right-wing media) now, and they need to start broadcasting 24/7 when these left-wing “smart people” ‘n their ilk continue to stand in the way of what Trump is going to try and accomplish. Blast it so loud that even their MSM can’t resist repeating it…

    Take even more of “middle Americans” from them…don’t let’em recover!

    And here is an example of what I meant:

    Megyn Kelly goes NUCLEAR on liberal women as she blames them for Kamala election loss

    The political commentator accused female Democrat voters of alienating her and other women by ‘sh****g all over men’ and pushing an extreme brand of feminism.

    ‘We knew what you leftists thought of feminism, it meant abortion and crapping on men and most of us women over on the side of the normies don’t want that.

    ‘We love our husband, we love our boys, our sons, our dads, our brothers, our male friends and colleagues.

    Most every RWM (right wing media) site should have a re-post or whatever of that…hammer it home again ‘n again…so to speak.

    Around 51 percent of women aged 45 and above voted for Harris, compared to 47 percent for Trump.

    Meanwhile young Gen Z women, widely considered Harris’ safest demographic, turned their backs on the Democrats to support Trump.

    Exit polling from AP revealed 40 percent of women under 30 voted for Trump – a seven-point jump on 2020.

    The youngest of them, aged 18 to 24, fled Harris in greater numbers with Trump gaining 11 points on his contest with Joe Biden.

    Don’t let’em recover!

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