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Open thread 11/6/2024 — 38 Comments

  1. At least now, we can be assured that it will continue to fly, and represent the ideals we stand for.

    No hammer and sickle in our future, at least for now.

  2. Following ‘Da Flow

    First – congrats to Trump! He fought hard for the Win and deserved it.

    Following ‘Da Flow led humble me to be the first commenter here (if I recall correctly) to move from the polls to the Betting Odds, and was way ahead of Power Line’s John Hinderaker.

    When the Betting Odds became too wide between Trump & Harris I looked for another ‘Indicator’ – Independents Flowed right up to me.

    Following ‘Da Flow then led me to another ‘Indicator’ – Harris has a ‘serious woman problem’.

    By “Following ‘Da Flow” – for me, it’s one of the ways to communicate with Self. From this:

    ‘Like two golden birds perched on the selfsame tree,
    intimate friends, the ego and the Self dwell in the same body.
    The former eats the sweet and sour fruits of the tree of life,
    while the latter looks on in detachment’. The Mundaka Upanishad

    Sometimes the ‘Da Flow needs to be like the Futaleufú River in Chile for me to know to follow it. Other times it can be as slow as a gentle forest stream. Other times I catch the wrong flow whilst busily devouring the ‘sweet and sour fruits’ about me.

    Missed ‘Indicators: 1) Black male voters. 2) Hispanic voters. First time as an amateur forecaster, so I missed the small ‘Indicators’ that Flowed across my Path—several times or more. Small can add up to Large enough for a Win.

    Trump best not waste his second chance…

  3. I took comfort in these words, part of a comment at Ace on election eve, “millions are praying”.

    “God spared my life for a reason,” Trump said referring to the assassination attempts on his life.

    Said in his victory speech.

  4. It’s an historic day for many reasons. We have the second person to win the presidency non-consecutively (the other being Glover Cleveland). That’s a feet that was widely believed to be near impossible in modern times for various reasons.

    We now have a winner who was ceaselessly prosecuted unjustly for a decade via lawfare, who was the subject of various ‘ops’ and general skulduggery by our Government’s intelligence apparatus, an extremely hostile press who shamelessly lied and misrepresented him and his supporters at every turn, an opponent outraised him by an almost 3 to 1 margin, and (last but certainly not least) survived 2 assasination attempts.

    In short, the forces arrayed against him have pretty much thrown everything at him that they could, used every available weapon that they had. And yet despite all that, he has still prevailed.

    Beyond everything else, I do wonder if there will be any real reflection by the mainstream media. Will there be any honest attempt to evaluate their failings and irrational demonizations? Will they see the problem with being blatant propagandists in an age of post information scarcity? My initial guess is probably not, but the alternative for them is irrelevance and ultimately unemployment, so perhaps they have a surivival instinct still that will force them to face some hard realities.

  5. @ Infidel753

    Looks like your forecast of a “Blue Wave” was waaaaay off.

    I did great on my forecast, and will be back in 4-years for more. Use mine next time, and you won’t even have to credit humble me…

  6. Laugh of the morning was an essay by Michael Hirsh in Foreign Policy magazine (foreignpolicy.com)

    Why Harris Lost

    A sample, Kamala was done wrong by Sunny Hostin of “The View” who asked Kamala an easy question.

    Oh, the humanity!

    I got on their spam list and generally delete on receipt but this one showed the gulf separating the elites and reality.

  7. Well, it looks like former President Trump won both the popular vote and the Electoral college decisively, and by large enough margins that it will be very hard for the Democrats to mount all sorts of legal challenges to those numbers and results in each state, or to the Electoral college totals.

    Hopefully, the sudden and mysterious appearance, from out of nowhere, of hundreds of thousands of new votes, shifting the victory to Harris, in state after state, is not likely to work this time.

    However, I fully expect that the Democrats will put every road block they can in the way of, first, Trump peacefully ascending to the presidency and, then, once in office, placing every other roadblock they can to thwart his attempts to govern and implement his Agenda.

    The first thing which comes to mind is the fact that, as the Vice President, Kamala Harris has the Constitutional function and duty of certifying the election results.

    Despite the huge controversy the Democrats made of their version of the events surrounding the certification of the election last time, on “January 6th,” and the need for the Constitutional process to proceed along it’s normal course, I can certainly see Harris refusing to certify.

    There are many important and decisive actions which President Trump needs to take on his first few days in office, but perhaps none is more important or foundational than quickly getting legislation passed by Congress and signed which will completely reform the Civil Service, one of the chief sources of resistance to Trump’s Agenda last time, and –if he lets them keep their power to do so–sure to play the same role this time.

  8. P.S.–That accomplished, it’s time for a thorough house cleaning of the Executive Branch, to include, among other major targets, the DOJ, the FBI, State Department, the Military, and Intelligence Agencies, with other Executive Agencies and Departments not far behind.

    Where will Trump get the many fearless gun-slinging sheriffs he needs to send out to clean up each partisan and corrupt organization?

    Next, will it be worth the expenditure of political capital to try to totally disband whole Departments or Agencies like Education, Environmental Protection, ATF, or the BLM?

    This all assumes that Republicans will retain control of the House.

    Commentators have been saying that the Republican party is now Trump’s party.

    But, is that so?

    If and when Trump embarks on a revolutionary Agenda to drastically reform the existing “System,” will Congressional Republicans give him the votes to do so?

    How much drastic change is realistically possible?

  9. Suggested agenda for Trump:

    — Build the wall, deport them all
    — Drill, baby drill
    — Pardon Jan 6 protestors
    — Purge DOJ/FBI, Dept. of State, CIA.
    — Eliminate Dept. of Education and Homeland Security; FBI and CIA.
    — Cancel/rescind Biden’s executive orders
    — Purge the military leadership; reform the military

    That’s just for starters. Any other suggestions?

  10. Where will Trump get the many fearless gun-slinging sheriffs he needs to send out to clean up each partisan and corrupt organization?

    Ahem. I’m available and keen to serve.

  11. His first agenda item should be to establish friend and foe in each agency. Get it on paper!
    Second: he needs to stay safe!
    He needs to hear from the women of great wealth–get an agreement on what two things they consider important for the next four years. Put their names out there connected to their invisible “actions”.

    Assure there is not another pile up of shipping containers on our coasts.

    Use some of the “qualities” that the progressives claim for themselves:
    1. “we include everyone’s opinion”. He needs to do that before– not after a
    decision–or at least look like he is doing it. He needs to use Congress to come up with solutions that
    are reasonable–not to “pretty places”, but rather solutions to how each
    state can handle their problem in a non draconian way.

    2. Mostly what he needs to do is bring in strong systems thinkers who can
    look at a problem and design doable solutions.

  12. Not to be too much of a Debbie Downer, but there’s still the scumbag judge in NYC and the sentencing of Trump coming up. Will he actually throw Trump in jail?

  13. The political situation in Washington has aptly been described as a “Swamp.”

    Imagine a swamp, full of traps for the unwary—false trails, bogs and quicksand, hostile animals and insects, branches and vines to trip over.

    That’s what any Trump appointees will be thrust into.

  14. If it turns out I was wrong about “too big to rig”, I’m relieve, but a lot can happen between now and January.

    For now it looks as though we have earned a breathing space. We cannot just use it to breathe. If we go back to sleep they’ll just take over again in 2028.

    A lot of the Democrat NGOs who help the Dems win elections have been funded by bills passed by the Republican-controlled House, which has been following the spending parameters agreed to with Biden back in the McCarthy Speakership since May of this year and will spend us into a fake debt-ceiling fight by the middle of next year. We need to hold our GOP accountable to get its snouts out of the trough and start fixing things that are broken. New Senate Majority leader is a step in the right direction, provided that McConnell is not pulling the strings.

  15. @physicsguy:Will he actually throw Trump in jail?

    I hope the judge is stupid enough to do that.

    I hope that for the next four years Trump is strapped to a gurney and wheeled into negotiations with foreign leaders in an orange jumpsuit, shackles, and a Hannibal Lecter mask, and kept in a glass cage for everyone else’s safety. I hope he gets some face tattoos while he’s in there.

    I suspect the “trade deals” will get quite a bit more favorable, Mexico will start building a wall on its own side of the border, and Putin might cede some territory back to Ukraine or maybe even Finland.

  16. Dear Neo: Is there any way the Jewish community can try to get this guy to tamp down some of the rhetoric he is already spitting out? This guy is a beloved leader of the extreme left an economist from Berkeley. He has tremendous influence among the “enlightened” and I fear his rhetoric is too too evil. I don’t ask that he be silenced–just that he should not TRY to incite riots.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/06/election-trump-president-resistance-america

  17. I think the reason Harris is waiting to concede today is to give her minions in Philly, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Phoenix/Tuscon, Milwaukee, and Las Vegas time to test dumping in some ballots out of nowhere. Trump is only ahead in Wisconsin by 30K votes, and counting is still going on in Nevada and Arizona. If they can get Trump’s margins down in Nevada, Arizona, Michigan, and Wisconsin to 20K by this evening, I don’t think she will concede.

  18. If they can get the margins down to 20K they can start filing more court cases asking for late ballots to count in all of the states.

  19. “I did great on my forecast”

    Yes, Karmi was predicting a big Trump-led Republican sweep all along …

  20. The Trump administration has an opportunity to discover the truth that has been hidden, and the lies that were propagated, by the Democrats for the last sixteen years . . . assuming that the Democrats don’t destroy all the evidence.

  21. Likening your political opponent to one of the worst mass murderers in history [without evidence], and calling more than half of the voters “garbage” (and then lying about it) were not winning strategies, thank God!

  22. The NYT front page is hilarious, though also kind of pathetic:

    TRUMP STORMS BACK
    Stunning Return to Power after Dark and Defiant Campaign

    Well he is Hitler, so I suppose it’s appropriate.

  23. Michigan was just called for President Trump. Given that Pennsylvania went to Trump, it’s likely Arizona and Nevada will also end up voting for Trump- giving him over 305 electoral votes. Winning the popular vote– that’s a mandate.

    Trump made it perfectly clear on these issues:

    He would settle the war between Ukraine and Russia.
    He would impose tariffs, possibly across the board, but certainly in cases where the other country was obstructing trade.
    He would increase energy production– oil and gas.
    He would seal the border and begin deportation of illegal migrants.
    He would incentivize manufacturing to relocate/locate in the US with 15% corporate tax.
    He would reduce the size and scope of the federal government.

    Knowing that, a majority of Americans voted for President Trump. Hopefully Congress will remember that when the President takes the office on Jan. 20

  24. It appears the “protect the vote” plan led by Lara Trump has worked.

    That the election was as close as it was, is a travesty. The least qualified candidate in modern times in Kamala. We dodged a bullet. And the hand of Providence can be seen in it all.

    But this is only the beginning. Trump will be met with tenacious opposition at every turn. He will meet the challenges and do the work. On that we can rely. But we must back him up in any way possible. Write your Senators and representative, write letters to the editors, comment on blogs, volunteer to work for your local Republican party, etc. Defending democracy is hard work, but necessary. Let us all keep going with strong hearts filled with thanks for this amazing victory.

  25. “Dear Neo: Is there any way the Jewish community can try to get this guy to tamp down some of the rhetoric he is already spitting out?”

    Anne: I’m not aware that he’s especially beloved or influential, but maybe in his own circles he is. I doubt he pays any attention to the Jewish community. And incidentally he’s not an economist by training, he just pretends to be. He got an MA at Oxford in “Politics, Philosophy, and Economics” which in the UK is just a credential to go into government. Then he got a JD.

  26. Paolo–I still remember how you and your parish prayed for my husband in April 2020. It is not an exaggeration to say that thousands (strangers to us) were praying for him. I still regularly pray, “Lord please bless every single person who had said even one prayer for us in our time of distress.” You are regularly remembered in our prayers.

  27. J.J.

    It appears the “protect the vote” plan led by Lara Trump has worked.

    Yes indeed – a most *EXCELLENT* Job by Lara Trump!!!

  28. Trump needs to get his cabinet set up asap, establish the committee that Musk and others will work on to reduce duplication and waste, get the EOs prepped for reversing the Biden’s EOs.

    Get with the House and Senate leaders to get them to start the review of what regs, laws, etc that they can reverse, especially the ones that the Ds will try to push through before January.

    BTW, the cabinet heads must agree that they will cooperate with Musk to reduce regs, wasteful and duplicate programs, and realign the departments with the original purpose.

    With the illegal aliens in the country, start with the criminals and either deport them or jail them for a long time. That way, they won’t try to return to the US. I’m sure there are some unused federal buildings that can be converted to prisons. Perhaps take over Rikers since it is already a hell hole of a place. Jail them all in that sanctuary city.

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