The teacher and Obama: on those pesky Trump-voting men
There was an instructor at the University of Kansas who had some interesting ideas about the 2024 election, ideas he felt obliged to share with his students. I use the past tense “was” because he’s now on leave:
An instructor at the University of Kansas has been placed on leave after a video on X showed him suggesting to his class that men who won’t vote for a female president should be shot.
“(If you think) guys are smarter than girls, you’ve got some serious problems,” the man in the video said. “That’s what frustrates me. There are going to be some males in our society that will refuse to vote for a potential female president because they don’t think females are smart enough to be president. We could line all those guys up and shoot them. They clearly don’t understand the way the world works.
“Did I say that? Scratch that from the recording. I don’t want the deans hearing that I said that.”
Oopsie doopsie. This was being recorded and apparently the instructor knew it. Here’s part of the university’s response:
“The instructor is being placed on administrative leave, pending further investigation. The instructor offers his sincerest apologies and deeply regrets the situation. His intent was to emphasize his advocacy for women’s rights and equality, and he recognizes he did a very poor job of doing so. The university has an established process for situations like this and will follow that process.”
In a similar statement on X, KU added that the comments “made an inappropriate reference to violence.”
Free speech advocates say he should be reinstated:
“The First Amendment protects professors who tell brief, off-topic jokes in the classroom,” said Graham Piro, FIRE program officer, in a statement. “It also protects hyperbole. In order to constitute a true threat, a speaker must communicate a serious intent to commit an act of unlawful violence against a specific individual or a group of individuals.
Sorry, but that’s not the standard that’s applied if a professor were to say something of the sort against a protected group. For example, let’s say the professor had joked that people who vote for Kamala Harris should be shot. I don’t think such a teacher would last at any university, although I could be wrong.
A more interesting story, I think, is Obama’s latest statements on the matter – not the matter of free speech, but the matter of voting for a woman. Obama recently came out of pseudo-retirement to say this in a talk in Pittsburgh to a group of black men. He said they didn’t seem as entusiastic for Harris as they had been for him, and then added:
And you’re coming up with all kinds of reasons and excuses, I’ve got a problem with that,” he said.
“Because part of it makes me think — and I’m speaking to men directly — part of it makes me think that, well, you just aren’t feeling the idea of having a woman as president, and you’re coming up with other alternatives and other reasons for that.”
Typical Obama. Kamala Harris’ individual characteristics are just “reasons and excuses” with which Obama has a problem, because the most salient characteristics anyone has are the identity groups to which that person belongs. Kamala Harris is black and a woman (yes, she’s also Indian, but that’s not Obama’s concern) – and that’s the reason to vote for her.
When Obama was running for president, he and many of his spokespeople made it clear that anyone who didn’t support him was suspected of having racism as the motivation. This was noticeable right from the start. I wrote this post in June of 2008, and it was already quite clear what he was trying to do:
Barack Obama, the candidate who wants to end divisiveness, and who wants to run a clean and honorable campaign without negativity, said the following in a recent campaign speech at a Florida fund-raising reception:
“It is going to be very difficult for Republicans to run on their stewardship of the economy or their outstanding foreign policy. We know what kind of campaign they’re going to run. They’re going to try to make you afraid. They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. ‘He’s young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s black?'”
We have here a truly masterful attempt to flames of paranoia on the part of his followers and adopt the mantle of victimization for himself, thus raising rather than lowering the amount of divisiveness and vitriol in the campaign. Pretty good for just a couple of sentences.
Obama is correct in saying that there have been racist remarks against him. These have originated from fringe elements and/or commenters in the blogosphere and/or anonymous email campaigns. They focus on his “funny name,” for example, or the fact that he’s black.
But in this speech he appears to attribute – or to encourage his supporters to attribute – these charges to the entire Republican Party, couched as a threatening “they.” At the same time, he fails to differentiate these attacks – and actually connects them as part of an undifferentiated list – from extremely legitimate concerns that people have voiced about other characteristics of his, such as his inexperience.
In the final sentence of the paragraph he slyly encourages a phenomenon I’ve noticed happening more and more: the charge that any criticism of Obama emanates from racism. If the racism isn’t overt and clear, as in the emails, then it’s covert; “inexperience” (a valid concern based on the objective facts of his history) becomes a code word (wink wink) for hidden racism and fearmongering.
This is dangerous demagoguery.
Because one so seldom hears overt expressions of racism any more, and certainly not from mainstream candidates, there has been a tendency to imagine it is everywhere, but hidden. Here Obama cynically fosters that belief and encourages the definition of his entire opposition as energized by this impossible-to-prove – or, more importantly, impossible-to-disprove – motive.
No, it turns out that most of them haven’t mentioned he’s black, except in approving terms. But they don’t have to nowadays to be racists; Obama has taken care of that.
That’s actually the entire post from back then. Obama’s words alarmed me and were a portent of things to come.
But back to the present and Obama’s remarks in Pittsburgh:
[Obama] said that the “women in our lives have been getting our backs this entire time.”
“When we get in trouble and the system isn’t working for us, they’re the ones out there marching and protesting,” he said.
“And now you’re thinking about sitting out or supporting somebody who has a history of denigrating you, because you think that’s a sign of strength, because that’s what being a man is? Putting women down? That’s not acceptable.”
There may indeed be men – black or white – or women, for that matter, who don’t want a woman president. They’re not going to care what Obama says on this. But by far more men – black or white – or women, for that matter, don’t want to vote for a particular woman named Kamala Harris because of her own very individual characteristics, the foremost of which is incompetence plus the inability to answer a question.
And note the dig about “supporting somebody who has a history of denigrating you.” It actually took me a moment to realize that Obama must be referring to Donald Trump. In Obama’s circles, Trump’s anti-black racism is considered some sort of truism that doesn’t need proof or even evidence. But in what ways has Trump “denigrated” black men?
I doubt that Obama’s message is going to change the minds of a significant number of black men who have decided not to vote for Harris, or even to vote for Trump. I strongly suspect they are paying attention to things other than identity politics, such as how their lives have been going under Biden versus under Trump. As well they might.
ADDENDUM:
Black pastor Darrel B. Harrison has some trenchant and on-point observations:
Notwithstanding @BarackObama’s ethno-tribalist herding of black men into a sheep’s pen, as it were, so they can be told by him, their self-appointed political shepherd, for whom they are to cast their vote in November, he is stripping these men of their identity as image-bearers of God (Gen. 1:27).
Imagine having your entire identity reduced to the color of your skin and subsequently being told that on that basis alone—the basis of a static and immutable aspect of your personhood (melanin), as opposed to your God-given intellect and discernment—that you must vote for someone simply because that person looks like you.
Think about that.
In Obama’s eyes these black men aren’t “brothas,” they’re sheep. They’re not men, they’re political pawns to be used and discarded once the election is over — just like he did to black people in 2008 and 2012.
I am a male, have voted for women before, and will again. I want people to fill a position in government who can do what I think is a good job.
Cultural Marxism is pushing gender, class, and Global Warming and that’s not what I want.
This is a sign of Democrat desperation.
The only people likely to be moved by this are Obama supporters – who are already Kamala’s supporters. Like Hillary’s mention of “Deplorables”, it’s preaching to the choir.
https://youtu.be/tH6kf3HSSGA
I don’t think Obama is faring well in his attempts to help Harris. Here’s another blunder – Obama’s vicious attack on Trump suggesting he wears adult diapers and mocking him for hawking sneakers and Bibles as 2024 polls tighten
Just when it has been reported that Harris may be gaining support from older voters, Obama goes Gerontophobia…
[Obama] said that the “women in our lives have been getting our backs this entire time.”
Getting our backs? I think he misspoke, but with an impressive sounding voice.
Just as government devotes more time and energy to diversity and inclusion than about to the tasks it’s supposed to perform, so political campaigns are now more about identity than about the issues or the state of the nation.
In 2008, Obama at least had the excuse that Bush had left the country in a mess. Today Biden and Harris have created a mess and given voters plenty of reasons not to vote Democrat again.
Also, what did Obama really have going for him when he challenged Clinton for the nomination in 2008? That he was black? That he wasn’t a woman? That he wasn’t that woman?
Obama claimed to be black in the past, but he was careful not pretend that he had gone through the African-American experience. Now that he’s doing that, it doesn’t sound at all authentic. “We” in this speech sounds more like “you people.”
Well, sticking with the first and primary topic of the U of Kansas Prof. and voting for a woman candidate, I have three thoughts.
The prof. did recognize his gaff and retracted it. Nobody’s perfect. As a university official, I would probably stop with a strongly worded caution delivered privately to him. Yes, a conservative prof. would not enjoy that moderated response.
Since when did “smarts” or intelligence become the only important criteria for selecting candidates for the presidency? How about spine and determination, and dispassionate objectivism. Some women have an abundance of those traits, but many don’t.
I’m always a bit amazed or chagrined when I hear one of these pro-women activists malign men for not judging women fairly. My thought being: that’s a blade that cuts both ways. Women always judge men fairly? Not in my experience.
When Hillary was running for President in 2016, there was a big push on the part of Democrats to vote her into office because she was a woman. There is some of that this year, but not as much, I believe. In addition, Biden made it clear four years ago that one reason he chose Kamala Harris for his running mate was her gender.
Conclusion: because a strong part of Democrat support for Hillary and Kamala was their gender, Democrats assume that a strong part of Republican opposition to Kamala is her gender.
Word salads and flip-flopping on political stances to make her more electable aren’t enough reasons to pull the plug on Kamala? 🙂
I voted for Ella Grasso for CT governor. She was the first woman elected governor whose husband hadn’t been governor. (Ma Ferguson, TX) She had been Secretary of State. Her campaign persona was that of quiet competence, a good caretaker. Some say she got reelected in 1978 because during the 1978 giant snowstorm she manned the phones. The caretaker. (At least that is what a Republican woman neighbor, active in politics, said to me.)
That KU lecturer was a lecturer in the Athletics Department. In terms of status at a university, that is about as low as you can go.
I have little idea about how persuasive Obama’s usual sanctimonious argle bargle still is these days to black men, but I get the impression that his schtick has lost a bit of its appeal in recent years. Personally I’ve always found his racial bloviations to be equal parts insufferable and insulting, but I’m not the target audience of course.
First off, I’ll vote for a Republican woman, no question. Democrat though? No way.
Second, I think Barack Obama has finally fallen behind the times. It happens to everyone, even to one who things he actually makes “the times.”
Appealing to black men on the basis of women “having had their backs” is not going to get much traction. Obama may want to brush up on what the acronym MGTOW stands for. Black men are having the same problem with black women that every other kind of man is having with women: they’re tough to get along with lately.
So invoking angelic women might remind black guys of their mothers, i.e., the single parent who “raised” them, but if they think of any other women, like the not-quite-black Kamala Harris, they’ll most likely remember them as being on their back instead of having it.
But, congrats, Barack, on being a senior citizen. You may now order the kids off your lawn.
Darrel B. Harrison – that was very good, and if BO ever read it, he would be really p’od because it hit too close to home
What Mess did Bush leave?
Mitchell Strand, yes me too. I would never vote for a Dem Woman for Pres.
I use to vote split tickets, voting for whom I believed was the best candidate. But now I realize a Dem can never be the best candidate.
In my District we have a Dem Woman (a Pediatrician no less) that won last time. Now, she is branding her Rep opponent as wanting to overturn Abortion (here in CO we have it up to birth) and wanting to track pregnant women. Heavy on the fear factors. Not sure why she is doing this since CO is very Blue and her district is very Blue.
A lowdown on the “Men for Kamala” Ad that showed up today — it’s pretty danged funny: https://x.com/joma_gc/status/1844793372692848872
Obama’s remarks were made to a group of Harris campaign workers in PA. It seems he’s both lecturing them and showing them what to say when they’re campaigning in black neighborhoods. Here’s the whole thing. There’s a funny and revealing interaction with a white campaign worker that begins at 2:48. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJrGR2uf4Io&t=10s
This is a sign of Democrat desperation.
Kate:
Agreed. If the Harris/Walz ticket was doing well, the Dems wouldn’t be hauling out Golden Oldies to stump for Harris.
I’ve read that the Dem internal polling shows Harris losing in the Electoral College, so the basement campaign wasn’t working and they had to send Harris and Walz out for interviews … with poor results.
Whatever else one might say, Obama and Clinton were excellent politicians and far superior to Harris and Walz.
Newt Gingrich argues it’s a mistake to allow voters to compare the 2024 JV team to the Old Pros.
I doubt they’re that desperate. They may be frustrated that they cannot suppress Trump’s expressed support. I’m not persuaded that DJT is beyond the margin of fraud.
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MS Adams, a tenured professor at the University of North Carolina at Wilmington, was fired for saying something not one tenth as offensive. The people who should be shot are higher ed administrators.
I doubt they’re that desperate.
Any basis for that beyond opinion?
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CNN Polling Expert Explains Why Democrats Are ‘Bedwetting’
On Friday, CNN’s Harry Enten addressed the growing sense of alarm among Democrats regarding Kamala Harris’s polling in crucial battleground states. Describing this anxiety, Enten quipped, “What is with all of this bedwetting among Democrats?”
His assessment focused on the Great Lakes states of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan—the so-called “blue wall” states she needs if she wants to win the election.
Enten noted that three weeks ago, Harris had a slight lead in all three, up by two points in both Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and by three points in Michigan. However, he pointed out that “the race is even tighter” now, with Harris holding only a one-point advantage in all three states based on CNN’s polling average.
For what it’s worth, Trump has reclaimed the lead in Pennsylvania and Michigan in the RealClearPolitics averages of those states.
https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2024/10/11/cnn-polling-expert-explains-why-democrats-are-bedwetting-n4933254
That KU instructor who “jokingly” said that those who don’t vote for Kamala should be shot is no longer employed at KU.WOMP! University of Kansas Professor Who Said Men Should Be Shot If They Don’t Vote for Kamala ‘RESIGNS.’
From the Kansas Reflector link:
Which prompts several comments.
1) Jim Ryun was a US Congressman for 10 years, but he had been in the spotlight decades before. He was the first high schooler to run the mile in under 4 minutes, and won a silver medal at the 1968 Olympics.
2) This shows the influence of X (x-twitter 🙂 ) on our political discourse. It’s a good bet that if Elon Musk hadn’t bought Twitter, Ned Ryun’s tweet would have been suppressed by the Twitter censors.
(My view on this “joke” is that the speaker was “dead” serious, but wanted to mask his seriousness in a “joke.”)
@ Gringo > My view on this “joke” is that the speaker was “dead” serious, but wanted to mask his seriousness in a “joke.”
It seems to me that the Democrats / leftists often get away with the excuse that they were “just joking” whenever they say any hurtful, mean, hateful, incitatory*, or vicious things and get called out.
But Republicans / conservatives who ARE actually joking get fact-checked by Snopes or fired.
*I couldn’t get rid of the spell-checker’s red line, for what looks like a perfectly understandable adjective (as in the lies that President Trump’s remarks on J6 were incitatory).
Looks like I am in rare company: “OED’s only evidence for incitatory is from 1610, in the writing of John Donne, poet and Church of England clergyman.”
@ sdferr > “A lowdown on the “Men for Kamala” Ad that showed up today”
That was funny, but not surprising.
The ad –which was very cringe and kind of in the “uncanny valley” — did have the feel of an advertisement for some new medical product, but I don’t really expect any political ads to feature real people anymore.
Maybe Governor Newsom would add a paragraph to his anti-parody law that requires people purporting to be “concerned voters” actually have to be what they say they are.
Or there has to be a disclaimer “paid actors” prominently on the ad.
This is another of those cases in which one needs to look past the sloppy and inflamed assertions out there about what exactly was being said by this professor. He wasn’t in fact saying that men who refuse to vote for Harris, generally, should be shot. He was saying that men who refuse to vote for her on the specific ground that they think women lack the requisite intelligence to be president should be shot. Those are not the same thing.
(This is quite aside from whether or not he was being serious.)
Philip Sells:
Obviously, neither group should be shot.
But there’s also an implication from him that a lot of people refusing to vote for Harris are doing it on those grounds, and that if you had the exact same person as a man they’d be voting for that person. I doubt there are very many people objecting to Harris on those grounds only.
And even someone who doesn’t want any woman to be president is not usually saying that because of women’s lack of smarts. Usually it’s because of some idea that women can’t be tough enough, or are too emotional, or something of that nature.
I’ve been touring the web and find there are several black “brothas” with YouTube channels who are pushing back hard on Obama.
I think Obama stepped in it this time.
It’s one thing to lecture white males for sexism. But for a rich old black guy to lecture young black males, who’ve borne the brunt of the bad Biden economy, is another thing.
I doubt Obama changed any opinions, but I will bet he hardened some pro-Trump ones.