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  1. I don’t believe the infighting is over whether Biden can beat Trump. Biden already has 270. Trump has to win one of MI, PA, or WI and they’ve all been fortified already, the close polls there mean nothing since they don’t adjust for ballot harvesting, unattended drop boxes, or other shenanigans. None of Biden’s other states are plausible Trump flips.*

    I think the infighting must be over which Democrat can be a competent President in place of Biden, hardly anyone wants Kamala Harris, but there’s no one else obviously acceptable to all the factions. I don’t believe any state voting Dem would fail to vote Dem just because Biden wasn’t on the ticket…

    I think highly placed Dems are privately horrified by how poorly Biden is functioning. They weren’t born yesterday and they’re no longer able to cover it up. Biden projects weakness and weakness emboldens internal and external enemies.

    *Those other states: WA, OR, CA, HI, MN, IL, CO, NM, VA and everything north of VA along the Atlantic. I really don’t see any of them flipping. Trump is favored to get one from ME but Biden is favored to get 1 from NE so that’s a wash.

  2. Niketas:

    You’ve posted essentially that same thing about 3 times now. Of course, if enough cheating occurs, Biden or any other Democrat will win. Your point? Concern troll?

    Neither you nor anyone else knows how the swing states will actually go.

  3. Niketas, while I accept that the states have made malfeasance easier, I haven’t lost hope.
    Here are the five ways Trump can win with at least 270 if he wins one of these combinations:
    1. Pennsylvania
    2. Michigan-Arizona
    3. Michigan-Wisconsin
    4. Arizona-Wisconsin
    5. Michigan-Nevada
    Winning Pennsylvania will be a challenge as they no longer require signature verification– so it will be impossible to determine who actually cast the ballot.
    My pick would be Michigan-Nevada.

    But given the fact Dems can no longer hide the decline, Americans may actually vote above the fraud and elect Trump.

    I think there is an upper limit to manufactured votes.

    https://www.270towin.com/road-to-270-combinations/?mapstr=22201311146142322221130522262253301423012224231102214252&party=R&year=2024

  4. Karmi, that is excellent news, but there is still plenty of time for Dems/leftists to create new narratives of impending doom if Trump is re-elected.

    If Trump/Vance put other states in play, it makes it much harder for the Dems/leftists to fortify the election to save Democracy.

  5. To Neo’s point, I thought the Dems had dropped their “coup” attempt and settled on fighting to keep the senate and win back the house.

    The Dems dilemma is of their own making and I hope they choke on it (or the few voters that are persuadable realize what the Dems did in choosing Biden/Harris.

    The fact that Joe’s decline is most likely Parkinson’s may make the average voter more likely to question whether Joe will even survive another four years, let alone be capable of fulfilling the rigors of the job.

  6. If we could find the moment when it became possible for someone with Adam Schiff’s record to become the probable next senator from our largest state, then we could pinpoint the exact moment when America went down the drain.

  7. @neo:Your point? Concern troll?

    Neo, I have always commented civilly here and in good faith. Not everyone around here does, and there’s nothing I’ve done or said that justifies a “concern troll” label, even with a question mark after it. It’s true, I am not always in step with the rest of the commenters here, but civil disagreement is not trolling, concern or otherwise.

    My point is that since the debate I see a lot of drama and emotion on both the Left and the Right, but I don’t see people talking about how WI, PA, or MI are going to be won for Trump, when the entire election depends on that. For the Left of course it’s in their interest that nobody talk about it.

    I want Trump to win, and I think we should be looking at the hard facts around what gets him to win, not get caught up in drama and emotion. I am afraid that the election is being lost for Trump right before our faces. I’d rather not see a repeat of the “red wave” mirage, but that, in my estimation, is what is in the offing, unless we focus on what actually works to win WI, PA, or MI.

  8. @Brian E:Here are the five ways Trump can win with at least 270 if he wins one of these combinations:

    The five ways are an illusion, as they all boil down to three: win one of WI, PA, MI: states with deep-blue government apparatus, each of which has been changing its rules to favor the Dems.

    I don’t see what is being done to secure those states, I don’t see any of the right-leaning media I read talking about it, instead I see mostly Schadenfreude, counting chickens before they’re hatched, and castles in the air about what we’re going to do with a Trump-Vance administration. Which is fun, but is in my opinion taking our minds off what’s needed to make any of it come true, and we may feel very silly on Wednesday November 6, and wondering how this could possibly have happened.

  9. Cheating is a big concern of course, but I think some of the air has gone out of that balloon, for at least two reasons. First, in 2020 the left could think that Biden would be the savior. Biden’s basement non-campaign allowed them to project all their hopes and dreams on him. Now the far left hates Biden, and the center left knows he’s incapacitated. So the enthusiasm to do a repeat of 2020 is probably not there.

    Second, there’s a recognition that Trump may be so far ahead that they can’t overcome the margin with the same degree of cheating as in 2020. It would take a much bigger effort, and the same enthusiasm simply isn’t there.

  10. @physicsguy:aggregate data from individual state polling

    The problem with relying on the polling, is that pollsters don’t let the Dems go out and recruit extra pro-Biden responses, and they don’t have unattended drop boxes for anyone to drop pro-Biden responses into. In the swing states that matter for the Electoral College, an accurate random sample of voter sentiment is not going to match the results of the election, because the actual election involves a lot more than just letting voters express their sentiment.

    In other words, a poll might show that 55% of voters prefer Trump. And that might even actually be true within say 0.1%. But the counted ballots cannot be expected to also show 55% of voters preferring Trump, because a lot happens to those ballots that does not happen in polling.

    Polls at one time may have simulated elections accurately enough to expect them to predict an election, but I believe this has not been true for at least about a decade.

  11. @Jimmy:Trump may be so far ahead

    In the three states which Trump must get in order to win, the polling is currently too close to call the state.

    We can argue about what the “margin of fraud” is, but whatever it is, in the three states that matter, Trump is not outside it, because he’s not even unambiguously ahead.

  12. meanwhile for the umpteenth time, biden has been tested positive for covid, I know this is still a thing,

  13. Niketas:

    You posted essentially the same thing 3 days in a row. That’s what caught my attention.

  14. Real Clear Politics has Trump ahead by 4% or more in most of the battleground states. The exceptions are GA (3.9%), WI (3%), and MI (1.3%). I haven’t been able to get the data, but I’m guessing that’s well ahead of where he was in 2020. In any case, I was projecting to what the situation is likely to be come November.

  15. every time, I think I should pity on him, he does things like try to relight the fires of 2020, and wage war on the Court, I know he’s not in control of much,

  16. On Niketas Choniates’ gloomy prognostications, while driving this afternoon I heard a report on Fox Business saying that Elon Musk’s $45 million a month Super PAC donations are going to be used for targeted ballot harvesting and early voting efforts in key states. I can’t find a written link as yet.

  17. @Kate:Fox Business saying that Elon Musk’s $45 million a month Super PAC donations are going to be used for targeted ballot harvesting and early voting efforts in key states.

    Musk says not true.

    The Wall Street Journal first reported on Musk’s plans to commit around $45 million per month to a group backing Trump, citing people familiar with the matter. In a reply to the story on X, Musk posted a meme with the words “FAKE GNUS.”

  18. On the re-start of Democrat efforts to get rid of Joe, reportedly the early virtual vote has been postponed from this weekend to early August. Even that date is not essential, since Ohio changed its law to allow whomever the Dems nominate at their convention to appear on the Ohio ballot.

  19. @Jimmy:The exceptions are GA (3.9%), WI (3%), and MI (1.3%).

    Inside the margin of error, so you are confirming my statement “he’s not even unambiguously ahead” in two of the three critical states. Maybe you intended that…

  20. Hmmm. Bloomberg reported four days ago that Musk “had donated” to a Trump PAC. Perhaps the amount is the question.

  21. What are they doing about voting integrity?

    Well, there’s this:
    “The RNC is also staffing up legal counsel related to its election integrity efforts. Whatley announced Christina Bobb, who has served as an attorney for President Trump, will now serve as senior counsel for election integrity.

    Bill McGinley, a longtime election attorney who served as Cabinet secretary in the Trump White House, will be assuming the role of outside counsel for election integrity.

    Whatley outlined that the election integrity-related priorities include “a broader effort over the coming months to [legally] challenge voter identification and signature verification rules which were put into place for the 2020 election.”

    “The RNC’s new posture as it relates to this litigation will be an aggressive, proactive effort to ensure that it will be easy to vote and hard to cheat,” Whatley explained.”
    https://www.npr.org/2024/03/15/1238765442/rnc-trump-republicans-whatley-lara-election-integrity-voter-fraud-early-voting

    Also, it was just announced that Elon Musk has pledged $45 million a month from now to election day for the purpose of insuring election integrity.
    https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/elon-musk-has-said-he-is-committing-around-45-million-a-month-to-a-new-pro-trump-super-pac-dda53823

    They may not succeed. Buit you can’t say they’re not trying to true the vote and the count. Musk Bucks – it has a nice ring to it.

  22. @J. J.What are they doing about voting integrity? Well, there’s this:

    That was back in March. Got any links on how it’s been going?

  23. No links, but I can testify that in NC the Republicans are actively recruiting and training election observers and hiring a raft of lawyers for rapid response to problems. I’m sure NC is not the only state.

  24. @Kate:No links

    I don’t imagine there would be much easy to find. Left-wing media is not going to talk about it unless they think it’s about to work, in which case expect a lot of identically-worded “GOP planning to steal election” articles. If I see that happen I will breathe a lot easier.

    Right-leaning media doesn’t really do journalism, really just does commentary on left-wing media’s journalism, but there are a few bloggers who should be connected enough to know something about what is or is not being done.

  25. I have conservative friends here in New Mexico who have been working on election integrity and petitions since 2020. I help out occasionally.

    We all know the Dems cheat, but 2020 was special. Covid. George Floyd. Riots. Expanded mail-in ballot possibilities for fraud. Biden’s decline. Wokeism going crazy.

    Fool me once. Shame on you. Fool me twice…

    Democrats will be facing increased electoral scrutiny this time, Wokeism in decline and a much more cynical electorate, as well as greatly energized conservatives and confused, divided Democrats.

    It won’t be the same this time. Whether it will be enough, I can’t say, but I don’t buy the kneejerk pessimism on this score.

  26. At this point it looks like — If Trump maintains his advantage in Nev, Ariz, Ga, and NC – then he would need to win One of Mich, Pa, or Wis…(NYT’s)

  27. Niketas C., there’s this:

    https://republicannationalcommittee.org/election_integrity.html

    https://apnews.com/article/rnc-election-monitoring-trump-republicans-voter-fraud-997947656e0b5d5d16cc4353bd726452

    You could sign up to help the effort here:
    https://protectthevote.com/

    I ‘m too old now, but I was involved in the TEA Party’s efforts to keep the voter rolls clean, and we had some success. The Dems now have control of all stare levers of power here in WA. If the Republicans could raise enough money, they might be able to at least clean up the voter rolls. The Washington State Republicans are too “gentlemanly” to demand change. I don’t know why people are so blind to what the Democrat policies have done. The ruin and rot are quite apparent.

  28. Inside the margin of error, so you are confirming my statement “he’s not even unambiguously ahead” in two of the three critical states. Maybe you intended that…

    You’re being intentionally dense. I said those are the exceptions. He’s up by 6.2% in AZ, 4.8% in NV, 4.5% in PA, 5.7% in NC, now 4.0% in GA. There’s not a single one of the seven states that Biden is ahead.

    Also, you don’t seem to have a great understanding of statistics. RCP gives averages of a bunch of polls, so you have no idea what the margin of error is, but it’s much smaller than for any of the individual polls. Not to mention that with results from seven different states all pointing in the same direction, the odds are even lower that more than one or two of them are wrong.

    I also found the data for 2020. Just as an example, in WI, Trump is up by 3.4%. Four years ago on this date, Biden was up by 6.0%. in PA BIden was up by 7% in 2020. In MI he was up by 7.7% in 2020. So we’re looking at roughly 10 point swings in Trump’s direction compared to four years ago.

  29. Niketas, how has Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada changed their laws to make illegal ballots more likely to be counted?
    Pennsylvania SC ruled in 2020 that signatures on the declaration didn’t have to match the signature on file, and that is still in place making it fairly easy to receive illegal ballots– but the other states still require verification. Yes, the accuracy of the verification process can lead to ballots that would otherwise be rejected being accepted.
    In Washington state, the haphazard signature verification produce a rate of somewhere between 2% and 7% of ballots being counted that should have been rejected.
    The 7% rejection rate was using signature verification software and the 2% rejection rate was after several rounds of officials comparing signatures.
    This is probably the normal rate of possibly illegal ballots being counted.
    The problem with using signatures is they do change over time.

  30. The concern about another Democratic Party election hijacking are well placed.

    It’s the ONLY reason why im-“POTUS” is so confident about his ability to “win” another term.

    He’s no doubt asking himself why the “O-ye-of-little-faith” crowd don’t seem to want to get it…. In fact, if ANYTHING is to be believed—hint: it’s NOT—we’re gearing up for im-“POTUS” to be even MORE “POPULAR” than he was in 2020.

    That’s right! Another electoral record is in the offing—TAKE THAT! ALL YE DOUBTERS!!

    (Well, we shall see…. God Save America, with a little help from His friends…)

    File under: Screw ’em…for they know not what they do (Book of “Biden” 1:1—N.B. That’s all there is; it’s a very short book)

  31. An interesting data point will be how large and long lived will the convention bounce be for the Republicans. Coming only days after the assassination attempt.
    Similarly for the Democrats. Coming after daily Biden stumbles, staff leaks, etc. Will it be a convention pothole?

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