Today’s hostage release: note the pattern, which is for Hamas to keep the fathers
Here’s the list; the pattern is quite obvious:
From the Engel family:
Karina Engel-Bart, 51
Mika Engel, 18
Yuval Engel, 10
(Father Ronen Engel remains hostage in Gaza)From the Calderon family:
Sahar Calderon, 16
Erez Calderon, 12
(Father Ofer Calderon remains hostage in Gaza)From the Yaakov family:
Or Yaakov, 16
Yagil Yaakov, 12
(Father Yair Yaakov and girlfriend Meirav Tal remain hostage in Gaza)From the Yahalomi family:
Eitan Yahalomi, 12
(Father Ohad Yahalomi remains hostage in Gaza)
Separate the fathers, the better to torture Israel and the families further, and to increase Hamas’ leverage on Israel and the US. I don’t think any of the US citizens other than yesterday’s 4-year-old (3 when taken) Avigail Idan have been released. The US hostages are particularly valuable to Hamas, because they constitute special leverage on Biden, who can pressure Israel in a variety of ways.
Not as dodgy as it looks, I don’t think Israel is releasing any male prisoners either. Women and children.
Israel should bring enough death to Hamas that they cannot help notice.
Wel, if you were the father, and were selecting members of your family to be released, I would think you would put yourself last. You might even vote the release the children from another family ahead of yourself (thought not ahead of your own children).
With these pauses and one-sided trades, Netanyahu has sealed his fate.
By continuing this drip by drip extension of the cease-fire, Netanyahu is condemning the Israeli population to terrorist and rocket attacks in their own homes by Hamas for the foreseeable future. He is putting millions at risk for the sake of less than two hundred, two hundred hostages who will all not be released, ever.
At some point a decision to protect the whole at the risk of the very few must be made.
The only american released is the grand niece of a hunter donor, this is how craven they are
No way is it any decision by the hostages who gets released.
Certainly Hamas is playing to the world and Leftist audience including Israelis.
Put your self in his position when seemingly the whole world has turned against you when the most vociferous countrymen insist on forcing this deal (as bendavid haspointed out)
Murder, rape, torture, and abduction are effective tools of the terrorists’ trade.
Hamas submitted an empathetic appeal… take a knee, beg, or else we’ll do it again… and again… and again with transnational, transhumane sympathetic support. Your… our Choice. Ha, ha, ha
The pattern is that Hamas is playing the hostages for as much time as possible. As the cease fire drags on and Hamas continues dribbling out hostages, the pressure on Israel to avoid a resumption of hositilies will increase. Hamas’ western allies will continue to call for a “durable ceasefire.”
Israel will have to choose between resuming their offensive with the majority of western governments against them, or allow Hamas to win. Once Hamas wins, they begin planning the next October 7.
Agreeing to the ceasefire was a huge error on the part of the Israelis.
He faces a gordian knot, he knows from hid father the great inquisition historian his brother who fell at entebbe the forty years he has pushed the cause of israel existence
https://twitter.com/raz_sauber/status/1728177503997444325
I dont know how to solve it
Miguel cervantes:
I haven’t heard a single viable suggestion on how to solve it. But people are sure Netanyahu is doing it wrong. However, I don’t think there is a better choice, at least so far. That may change in a while.
The incentives from the eu foggy bottom the qatari apparat is too strong
IMO, it is extremely unlikely that Hamas will ever release all of the hostages and, will do it’s level best to acquire more. Yet if Israel manages to utterly destroy Hamas, Islam will just turn to another proxy. So, if Israel continues to restrict itself to a reactive policy, this is a fight Israel cannot win. But this is a fight that Israel can win because Islam contains a fatal flaw. To leverage that flaw, Israel must alter its strategy, it must change the conditions of the ‘game’. It must eliminate Islam’s incentive, it’s promise of paradise for ‘martyrdom’ and, it must attach a consequence for terrorist attacks that the radical Mullahs and Imams find too risky to contemplate.
I wonder if using smoke generators and injecting the flow into known tunnel entrances would have two beneficial results:
1: Smoke billowing from other hidden and unknown entrances.
2: Gradual ‘smoking out’ inhabitants from non-lethal levels to lethal levels, potentially forcing the terrorists to move hostages above ground if they want to keep them for bargaining purposes, and at least not immediately killing any hostages in the process, unlike injecting and igniting propane and other such proposals.
There was a recent article on why Hamas is worse than the Nazis. More proof here.
I shouldn’t be surprised any more, but there is substantial support by the Dems for Hamas.
Just read at the Daily Mail that Hamas has given one of their hostages, a 10 month old Boy, to a different terrorist group in Gaza. They are keeping his Brother and Mother.
There might be a point where Israel has to say no more.
“There might be a point where Israel has to say no more.”
That point was reached on October 7. I don’t want to let Netanyahu off the hook entirely but Biden stabbed him in the back with Obama’s knife. And you know BO is getting a great big kick out of it.
@ miguel > ” the qatari apparat is too strong”
I assume you are referring to the post you linked yesterday about the Doha convention.
That the EU vultures & our own Foggy Bottom denizens are clustering is no surprise.
If there is a question later about who is on the Qatari payroll, the attendance roster can be consulted.
However, this seems to me to illustrate one of the usual conundrums of the Wokerati, in which their actions seem to contradict their alleged priorities.
If, as they claim, the greatest crisis facing the world is Climate Change (ahem), and we absolutely need to Stop Oil and End Fossil Fuels now, wouldn’t that undercut the source of their payroll?
And if the Democrats succeed in banning gas stoves, water heaters, and furnaces, the Qataris will have to look for new customers for that also.
So, are the Elites just doing what grifters always do, and getting theirs while the getting’s good, or do these particular leftists really believe in two incompatible outcomes happening simultaneously?
On the third hand, they should know that Qatar will not lack buyers for its wares even if the Europeans and Americans are not among them, so there will be no hitches in their Money Pipelines.
On the fourth hand, they may be realizing that the Sustainable / Green Energy boom is about to bust, and there will be no end to the petroleum largesse at all.
https://www.dossier.today/p/biden-admin-wef-gates-officials-to
A Bee in every bonnet today.
https://babylonbee.com/news/hamas-awarded-nobel-peace-prize-for-releasing-a-few-of-the-children-they-kidnapped
Another Mike
Netanyahu is not condemning anyone. He is a politician. I am sure he has his ear to the ground and this is what the Israeli electorate want. They want their family back. Of course Hamas will kidnap more.
Caroline Glick Show, “An Interview With a Father of a Fallen Soldier” (57:55): https://youtu.be/M5mEgjduRTk?si=R-OeACdaJq3UABif
Do yourself the favor of listening to this fine man.
I mentioned the particular burdens that netanyahu labors under i will venture further this is what yigal amir feared with the coming of oslo having come from yemen deri the shas leader came from morocco.
We still come to the crux this is the price of accepting a stolen election
https://twitter.com/DominicWaghorn/status/1729392997714784451
Netanyahu is a patriot but he is under enormous pressure and not just from enemies. I just hope he can resist the bad advice.
His enemies are inside the tent! ObamaMalleyBidenBlinkenSullivan, they’re all agin him, on the side of IRGCHamas.
And good freakin luck with the stinking-to-high-heaven leftist Israeli Media Complex who never quit their denigration (emblackening) of the names of every single Israeli politician who seeks victory. They never stop, they never will cease.
Yep
https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/1729581969359438183
Israel should do whatever is needed to free the hostages.
Once that is accomplished, Israel should totally destroy all of Gaza, hunt down and kill every Hamas member they find no matter where in the world they are located and kill every Hamas prisoner they have captured.
There is nothing at all Israel can do to dissuade the palestinians from aiming to exterminate them. Israel can give every palestinian a new car, a new house,
$ 500,000 in cash, and the palestinians will still want all Jews dead.
There is no way to compromise with people that want you dead; so you have to kill them first.
@ Miguel > “Yep” doesn’t do justice to the importance of the story underlying that Tweet.
https://www.ft.com/content/285e1f90-9f69-4f3b-b4a9-b77b6ca97e7a?sharetype=blocked
Everyone who believes that these professionally impartial analysts at all levels are not slanting their reports in their preferred direction raise your hands.
We know for a fact that high-level agents and officials have done so, to th extent of lying to Congress and the public about it, so why not the anonymous Swamp Dwellers?
https://www.bookwormroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Silly-stuff-Louisiana-Christmas-lights.jpg
When they tell you what they are, believe them.