Open thread 5/18/23
And my very own flappers – my grandmother and mother in the mid-1920s. In this photo, my mother is about thirteen years old.
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And my very own flappers – my grandmother and mother in the mid-1920s. In this photo, my mother is about thirteen years old.
James O’Keefe OMG has undercover chat with a FOX NEWS at Night Producer Sean Langille, dishing major breaking news on FNC corruption, confirming previously only suspected Truths — about Tucker’s leaving FNC and the Murdock’s selling out.
Rumor CONFIRMED: Tucker was effectively fired as part of the Dominion lawsuit, as part of settlement terms.
Rumor CONFIRMED: Murdock’s were aghast at the doubts cast by Tucker and his hidden J6 video; they wanted him gone.
Further important detail: A Biden former WH Press Secretary head’s Dominion PR comms. He’s doing Biden White House bidding in canning Tucker Carlson
Final suspected news confirmed: Murdock’s bending the knee to Big Pharma ad money. BlackRock and Vanguard ESG censorship rules FNC.
THE DECLINE AND FALL OF FNC INDEPENDENCE is thusly confirmed.
News starts two minutes in to this YT influencer’s coverage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqpLwmBUY_8
Dear Neo:
Thank you for this colorized version of my mom’s early life! She was always a “flapper”. She came into her teens expecting to share in the excitement of the roaring 20s. We forget the “Roaring 20’s” was all about recovering from the greatest war ever WWI. The younger ones–the flapper’s age–had experienced difficult childhood times and were eager to do what young people have done from the beginning of time–“make the world a better place”. My mom turned twelve exactly two days before the crash of the stock market. So, while her older sister got to be a roaring teenager, mom’s age group never got that moment of exhilarated liberation. I know my mom was always rebelling and trying new things with more abandonment than her older sister–might just have been the differences in individuals. Understanding the why of history is quite often the devil in the details. How one generation first engages with the world may be quite different from that of people just five or six years different in age.
Second item: For years Ricky Nelson’s mother and many of the gals in her generation(my mom included) refused to wear any underpants, because of the heavy visible lines that could be seen through those slinky dresses! Thanks for the video–it is lovely!
“No one knows how the word flapper entered American slang, but its usage first appeared just following World War I.
The classic image of a flapper is that of a stylish young party girl. Flappers smoked in public, drank alcohol, danced at jazz clubs and practiced sexual freedom that shocked the Victorian morality of their parents.”
https://www.history.com/topics/roaring-twenties/flappers#Flappers%20in%20Advertising
Anne:
I knew a woman who never wore underpants. She said they made her too hot. I never understood that — I thought she was hotter without them.
She would probably have been a little younger than your generation, as her mother would have come of age in the thirties.
Well now, there’s a positive outcome from AI. My grandmothers were in their 20’s at that time, I don’t know if they followed this fashion trend but am inclined to think not given what I know of their upbringing and life circumstances at that time.
Beautiful video.
“… all about recovering from the greatest war ever WWI…”
Indeed, that’s what they tell us…and it does make sense, of course.
However, after two plus years of the recent Covid epidemic, one wonders how large a part having survived the Spanish Flu epidemic of 1918-19 contributed to that spirit of abandon, disport and freedom….
http://davidgriffey.blogspot.com/2023/05/russ-moore-and-religious-clickbait.html#comment-form
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Mr. Griffey makes the case that Russell Moore is the evangelical Vicar of Bray.
People never seem to connect WW1 and the 1918 flu epidemic, but the flu probably killed more than the war.
The AI-enhanced colorization always gives me the impression that I’m seeing modern people in costume. It’s funny how much of our perception is shaped by available technology, or my perception anyway.
Calvin: Dad, how come old photographs are always black and white? Didn’t they have color film back then?
Dad: Sure they did. In fact, those old photographs are in color. It’s just the world was black and white then.
Calvin: Really?
Dad: Yep. The world didn’t turn color until sometime in the 1930s, and it was pretty grainy color for a while, too.
Calvin: That’s really weird.
Dad: Well, truth is stranger than fiction.
@Alan Cobo:the flu probably killed more than the war.
No “probably” about it, the flu definitely did. Something like 20 million to 50 million deaths. WWI was only responsible for about 15 million, at least if you don’t count the genocides immediately following WWI in the WWI total.
WAshingtonPsychO…
Turley opines on a most peculiar “journalist” who is clearly in dire need of therapy—no doubt he should read Neo’s recent post on finding one that’s “just right” for him!…
“Desperate Washington Post Makes Last-Ditch Pitch For Russian Collusion”—
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/desperate-washington-post-makes-last-ditch-pitch-russian-collusion
…and who serves as a metaphor—a shining symbol—for the parlous—and corrupt—state of mainstream journalism in our times…
Reading about him brings to mind the peerless Adam Schiff…which might make one wonder: has anyone ever seen this fellow and Adam Schiff together in the same room?
The demise of the US dollar as the world’s reserve currency??
See here:
https://doubleline.com/markets-insights/bill-campbell-on-yahoo-finance-5-12-23/
Just as an aside, the USA, strictly speaking, defaulted on its debt in 1933 when FDR took the USA off the gold standard.
Jordan’s committee hearing with 3 FBI whistleblowers happening. Yet, in regard to some of the discussion yesterday on our democratic friends and why the vote they way they do: not a single mention of the hearings on any of the MSM. If that’s where you get your news from, all is well in the USA.
IIRC the 1918 Spanish Flu (bigot!) killed a lot more of the young and generally healthy than “normal.” Now our Wu Flu spared the young, mostly, excepting social isolation and paranoia from the media and state.
Following up on the discussion about Harry and Meghan’s claim of a two-hour car chase in Manhattan, which police and taxi driver say is greatly exaggerated: Besides Harry’s emotional reaction to car chases, it may be that they’ll use it to try to get the British police to restore their security coverage when they’re in the UK, and to try to get Harry’s US Diplomatic Security Service coverage restored (it was pulled in the Trump years after Harry’s retirement from British Royal service).
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-harrys-near-catastrophic-car-chase-story-doesnt-add-up
My mom was a young stylish 20 year old when she graduated from college in 1927 and became the high school music teacher where my dad was the football coach. When she rode 40 miles in his car with him to an out of town football game the following Monday they were called into the principals office and told that their behavior of being unmarried people traveling by themselves out of town was not acceptable and doing that again could be grounds for dismissal. A few years later they were married so I guess then traveling together would be all right. In their 50’s my folks could still dance the Charleston with a lot of flair and embarrass me when they helped sponsor school dances after the football games.
Mom also told me that when she was in college the girls had been instructed to never sit down in the same chair that a man had been sitting in until at least a minute had passed so there would be no male body heat for the girl to feel on her bottom when she sat down. Failure to heed the body heat warning could get a college girl written up and reflect on her permanent record, or something like that.
Years later when I was in high school we were out at the cemetery decorating family graves and my mom took me on a tour of some of her old classmates who died in 1919 of the influenza, she was 12 years old at the time and told me how terrible it was going back to school each Monday and learning the names of kids who had passed away, missing classmates she still remembered in the early 1960’s and I had no idea at the time that there had been such a terrible health event.
Lovely video.
That pre-crash time period is chronicled well in “You Can’t Go Home Again” by Thomas Wolfe. The movie Genius (2016) is an interesting editor’s point of view bio on Wolfe. If memory serves, the aforementioned book was chopped out of a multi-thousand page tract that Wolfe had written.
“IIRC the 1918 Spanish Flu (bigot!) killed a lot more of the young and generally healthy than “normal.” Now our Wu Flu spared the young, mostly, excepting social isolation and paranoia from the media and state.”
You are forgetting the “vaccines”. They almost assuredly killed a lot more young people than were killed by the virus. There was never a compelling health reason to vaccinate anyone under maybe the age of 50, who didn’t have significant comorbiditities (e.g. morbid obesity). And vaxing those under 18 or so would constitute child abuse, if it weren’t the government pushing it.
My parents were a little too young for the flapper era, leaving childhood in the very late 20s and then 1930s. The Depression made their adolescence and early adulthood very different.
I think my ancestoresses were mostly spared this. My parents were both born in the early 1920s, so we’re too young, and their parents married late, due to WW I. I possibly could see my paternal grandmother wearing such, a bit – the pictures of that set of grandparents were always extremely well dressed. Maternal grandparents were just too tied to their Puritan past.
I found the modeling style interesting. Wife was a successful model (and dancer) until she married and had kids after college. It paid much better than anything else she could do (legally) at that age. She likes looking at the history. Some things change, and other’s don’t. They seemed to be trying harder to make it look informal and impromptu, than we mostly see today. Not as tightly scripted.
If you like seeing vintage photos, + 1920s pics, + reading about vintage subjects, please try looking at this free site:
https://clickamericana.com/
(It’s free to visit this site, and you don’t need to open an account on the site, to- read it or visit it).
clickamericana [dot] com is a site that tells you about vintage: ads, trends, fashion trends, clothes,food, and products- from the 1900-1990s.
So it is a site for fans of: the 1920s, 1940s, 1950s, 1960s, 1980s + etc..
The site also covers some things from the 1800s years.
It also tells you about traditions that came from the past. Anyone want to go on a Halloween or Fall hay-ride? 🙂
Please give the site a look, if you’re into 1920s subjects, or other pre-year-2000…vintage subjects.
Cheers.
Wired is getting mad blowback for a fawning article about Pete Buttigieg. We didn’t hear much from former Secretaries of Transportation. Either they were busy working on the nation’s transportation problems, or they were busy trying to conceal that they knew nothing about transportation. Mayor Pete’s willing to talk about anything, and the writer lets us know that Pete’s “cathedral mind” takes in many more topics. Both Pete and his interviewer think in heavily partisan terms and take care to push all the ideological buttons they can. If you feared that the administration’s transportation, energy, and economic policies were more about striking out at you, rather than benefiting the country, this interview won’t reassure you.
Bruce Hayden:
Regarding the COVID 19 vaccines and excessive mortality in the young; try reading and remembering Neo’s many, many, many posts and comments about it. You be you.
Or even three years. When I graduated high school in 1964 things were pretty much as they had been, the only new things were the twist and folk music, rock and roll had already arrived in the late fifties. When my brother graduated three years later, psychedelic drugs had spread through the whole school, the Beatles and Stones had landed, and sexual liberation was taking hold. It was a different generation.
she was a tv reviewer for slate, majic eightball says no dice
https://www.wired.com/story/pete-buttigieg-interview-god-beer-electric-mustang/
“…cathedral mind…”
Come to think of it, Sec. Pete HAS kinda’ reminded me of a rather sinister hunchback of Notre Dame.
That is when he’s not reminding me of Alfred E. Neumann, Esq.
(Though no doubt the stricken and suffering citizens of E. Palestine OH would like to forget about him entirely. Not that they’ll ever be able to…)
Cathedral mind.
Yeah, right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0df0racc3vk
Heh, the kids may be alright after all…. Or some of ’em…
(Not sure whether to label this a chat-bot hack…or a blow for honesty and openness.)
“Nebraska high school student goes off script after getting ChatGPT-written graduation speech approved;
“Grand Island Public Schools graduation ceremony takes unexpected turn”—
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/nebraska-high-school-student-goes-off-script-getting-chatgpt-written-graduation-speech-approved
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Speaking of a “blow for honesty”, you gotta admit those Democrats sure work hard to support their candidates…and pull the wool over everyone’s eyes.
(And no doubt they enjoy what they do!)
“John Fetterman’s office has doctored several of his quotes to make him sound more coherent, review finds”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/john-fettermans-office-has-quietly-doctored-several-quotes-make-him-sound-more-coherent-review-fin
(If they’re doing this for Fetterman, just imagine what they’re doing for President Fentanyl!)
JohnTyler,
See this: https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/575722-the-us-has-never-defaulted-on-its-debt-except-the-four-times-it-did/
A remarkable set of color photos of the Czarist Russian empire was taken between 1907 and 1914 by Sergei Prokudin-Gorskii, using a process of his own design. That’s original color, not later colorization. The process worked by exposing 3 different plates with different color filters; for viewing, they were combined by perfectly aligning the images from 3 different projectors.
These are worth seeing and blowing up to full size.
https://www.loc.gov/pictures/search/?st=grid&co=prok
An interesting account of the debt limit fight.
(Almost a “read it and weep” story—though one might weep for a variety of reasons).
The author believes that McCarthy has the over-confident “Biden” on his back leg…
Guess we’ll soon see what a “victory”—by either side—will mean.
“Speaker McCarthy’s secret weapon in the debt ceiling negotiations is paying off;
“Here’s what the movie ‘The Hustler,’ the 1913 US Open and the debt ceiling negotiations all have in common”—
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/speaker-mccarthys-secret-weapon-debt-ceiling-negotiations-paying-off
Default?
Well, it WILL certainly create a crisis.
And “Biden” LOOOOVES a crisis (especially when “he” can blame it on the Republicans—with all the fury of the corrupt media at his back).
Anyway, one view of the mechanism by which “Biden” will be able to impoverish more and more people and force them to be increasingly dependent on the government:
“Talk Is Cheap; What Will The Fed Actually Do?”—
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/talk-cheap-what-will-fed-actually-do
A more positive view on the US retaining its reserve currency status; and that it would not be the end of our world if that status was lost:
https://americanmind.org/memo/dethroning-the-dollar/
Reserve Reservations
The dollar isn’t losing reserve status—but it wouldn’t be all bad news if it did.