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  1. Kelly also took the highly unusual and prejudicial step of requiring the defense to “pre-clear” questions with prosecutors before asking a witness about the use of informants—but information is slowly trickling as the defense finally gets their turn.
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    I cannot believe an honest judge would do this or that it would not be reversible error if you had a panel of honest appellate judges.
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    “During this period of time, the CHS (confidential human source) has been in contact via telephone, text messaging and other electronic means, with one or more of the counsel for the defense and at least one defendant,” wrote Carmen Hernandez, the public defender representing Zachary Rehl.
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    Why should this case not be dismissed with prejudice? Where are the inspectors-general?

  2. I don’t think anyone seriously believes that the FBI and DOJ are better now than they were during the Trump administration. Both are almost certainly worse under Garland.

    So, given that, maybe calling on Trump supporters to hold massive protests isn’t such a great idea? What do you think the fed informants and corrupt law enforcement can goad the Trumpers into doing this time? I’m afraid that we’re going to find out.

    The only way to change any of this is to win elections. Maybe the FBI actually violated the law here, but maybe not. If what the FBI did was legal, you can bet your bottom dollar that Democrats won’t lift a finger to ban it. That would limit their power. Complaints, especially complaints from Trump, are going to be ignored by partisan Democrats and the relatively non-political alike, just as the J6 complaints have been ignored outside of right-leaning circles.

  3. One of the blawgers I follow is Donald McClarey, who practices bankruptcy and criminal defense law in Livingston County, Illinois. He said he has never seen prosecutorial misconduct of this type. He’s been practicing since 1982. He said the resolution should be dismissal with prejudice.

  4. Maggie comes fleet foot, face full of black soot
    Talkin’ that the heat put plants in the bed, but
    Phone’s tapped anyway
    Maggie says that many say
    They must bust in early May
    Orders from the D.A

    Look out kid, don’t matter what you did
    Walk on your tip toes, don’t tie no bows
    Better stay away from those that carry around a fire hose
    Keep a clean nose, watch the plainclothes
    You don’t need a weatherman to
    Know which way the wind blows

    –Bob Dylan, “Subterranean Homesick Blues”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mb3CoWwNyY

    ____________________________

    It’s the Sixties again and you are on the Other Side.

  5. @Bauxite:The only way to change any of this is to win elections.

    I’m not sure the Electoral College is “winnable” except by the government-approved candidate. There’s only a handful of competitive states, each of which has been fortified for democracy against Republican ballots, mostly by people who are not elected to anything but by NGOs, state bureaucrats, big corporations that enforce government requests for censorship and carry out government directives against the government’s enemies, etc.

    In the states that aren’t corrupted yet, we can strengthen them against what the Federal government is doing and what these other actors are doing, but that doesn’t do anything about the Electoral College situation. By all means vote for the R candidate for President in November 2024, but it won’t do any good. We didn’t vote our way in and we can’t vote our way out. A great deal has to be done from the bottom up besides voting.

  6. The Bureau has had a dark side since J Edgar Hoover. Whiffs of stench have wafted for a long time. January 6 is exposing it fully.

  7. Undercover approaches Deadhead, ask to score some acid. Kid is not a dealer, but gets a friend to front him a couple of tabs, which he sells to undercover.

    Undercover keeps asking for larger quantities, way beyond any Deadheads means.

    Second undercover poses as big supplier, cozies up to Deadhead and fronts him a hundred or so tabs.

    Deadhead passes tabs to first undercover, who then busts him for being a major LSD dealer.

    1970’s Texas, if memory serves.

  8. Interesting how Garland isn’t being made to explain this behavior. At this rate, I wouldn’t be surprised if the FBI had an informant on the jury.

  9. Admirable when law enforcement infiltrates an established criminal gang.

    Beyond disgusting when law enforcement creates the gang and then prosecutes the members.

  10. Frederick – So what do you suggest? Democrats have controlled the executive branch for 10 of the last 12 years. If Republicans don’t win in 2024, Democrats will have had control the executive branch for 16 out of 20 years.

  11. garland is on the side of the terrorists, the mutilators and criminals, thats who a dozen gop senators put over the top,

  12. @Bauxite:So what do you suggest?

    The things I put in my previous comment. Are you asking for a detailed list? It’s long. I hesitate to bore people. tl dr is get together with your-like minded neighbors and take over your school board and local elections, and work for secure and transparent elections. Or move to a deep red state whose government can and will try to protect you from what the Federal government will do.

    It may or may not be possible to win that election, but winning it doesn’t even come close to being enough. It hasn’t been 1980 for a long time now.

    If Republicans don’t win in 2024, Democrats will have had control the executive branch for 16 out of 20 years.

    They have had control of the executive branch for a lot longer than that. Trump never had control of the executive branch, and it’s arguable that Bush had much. When you elect a new President, only a few people at the top change. The rest are career civil servants impossible to fire. They drag their feet when a Republican is elected and they go at warp speed when a Democrat is elected.

    Federal elections mean very little at this point. What states do you think a Republican Presidential candidate will win? The only 2020 states in play are NV, AZ, MN, WI, MI, PA and GA. 87 Electoral College votes, and Republicans have to win 35 of them. Arizona, Pennsylvania, and Nevada are already fortified for democracy, so that leaves Republicans having to get 35 out of the remaining 36.

    Happy to hear what you think the scenario is, that has the Republican candidate holding all of Trump’s states plus GA and 2/3 of MN, WI, and MI.

    MN just changed its law so that CPS can take your child if they can’t get gender-affirming therapy, so lots of luck.

  13. It’s official:
    The USA is a Democratic-Party-run police state.
    One can begin to understand why it has been necessary for the regime to hire 87,000 additional IRS goons (that is, if it wasn’t clear beforehand).
    From the National Review.
    “Jim Jordan Demands IRS Explain Unannounced Visit to Matt Taibbi’s Home”—
    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/jim-jordan-demands-irs-explain-unannounced-visit-to-matt-taibbis-home/
    H/T Instapundit.
    …which provides us with such gems as:
    ‘…Federal agents were dispatched to Taibbi’s residence the very same day that the investigative journalist appeared before the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government, also chaired by Representative Jordan.
    ‘… he was later told that both his 2018 and 2021 tax filings were requested because of “concerns over identity theft.” [Barry M. comments: Well they are certainly creative bast**ds, aren’t they!]
    ‘While Taibbi’s initial 2021 return was rejected twice despite his accountant using an “IRS-provided pin number.” Taibbi added that the issue at stake is not “monetary” and that the federal agency actually owes him a “considerable” amount of money
    ‘During Taibbi’s visit to Capitol Hill, Representative Stacey Plaskett (D., Virgin Islands) denounced the former Rolling Stones journalist as a threat.
    ‘ “Mr. Chairman, I am not exaggerating when I say that you have called before you two witnesses who pose a direct threat to people who oppose them.” When Jordan laughed at this comment, Plaskett replied, “It’s funny when people have to go through that? This is unacceptable.”
    ‘ Plaskett derided Taibbi as a “so-called journalist” and repeatedly insisted that there was no “real evidence” publicized in the Twitter Files showing coordination between the federal government and the social-media platform.
    ‘ “…I’m not a so-called journalist,” Taibbi countered. “I’ve won the National Magazine Award, the I.F. Stone Award for Independent Journalism, and I’ve written ten books, including four New York Times best sellers.”
    ‘ Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D., Fl.) engaged in a similar line of hostile questioning.
    ‘ “Elon Musk spoon-fed you his cherry-picked information, which you must have suspected promotes a slanted viewpoint or, at the very least, generates a right-wing conspiracy theory. You violated your own standards, and you appear to have benefitted from it,” the Florida representative told Taibbi….’
    “…Being a Republican witness today certainly casts a cloud over your objectivity.”
    Etc., etc., etc. as the most hostile public interrogation continues…

    There has been some questioning recently on this blog whether it is accurate, correct and/or judicious to refer to these people as “psychopaths”.

    They have just provided the answer.
    (They’ve been providing it for some time now.)

  14. Continued…

    Says.It.All….
    “The Real Insurrection, And The Dirty Politics Of Jan. 6”—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/real-insurrection-and-dirty-politics-jan-6
    Key grafs (RTWT):
    “…As of March 6, 2023, more than 1,000 people have been charged with crimes stemming from the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol. But the Biden administration is not done seeking its pound of flesh from Trump supporters. Last week, we learned that the Department of Justice (hereinafter the Department of Retaliation) [Emphasis mine; Barry M.] had sent a letter to the chief judge of the D.C. federal court warning that between 700 and 1,200 more people will be charged with Jan. 6 crimes. More than two years after the fact! That brings the total of citizens likely to be charged to approximately 2,000, and according to the White House these are all domestic terrorists. [Along with all those parents who protest against CRT and pornography being taught to their children in public schools; comment by Barry M.]
    “…[M]aybe the Democrats do know exactly what they are doing. Spanish-born and American-educated philosopher George Santayana said, “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it,” but maybe even more dangerous are those who distort the past. They condemn the rest of us to a legacy of permanent chaos, lies, and animosity, and of course they expect us to shut up and take it. [Emphasis mine; Barry M.] There was no insurrection on Jan. 6, but that doesn’t mean the people will be patient forever.”

    And…what have we here?!
    “Contract Confirms US Government Received $400 Million From Major COVID-19 Vaccine Manufacturer”—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/contract-confirms-us-government-received-400-million-major-covid-19-vaccine-manufacturer

    And so…Good-bye Ivermectin! See ya’ later, Hexachoroquine (+zinc)! Hasta la vista Quercetin! Nice knowin’ ya’ Vitamin D!

    To his credit (at least) when Fauci is bought, he STAYS bought….

  15. @Bauxite

    I don’t think anyone seriously believes that the FBI and DOJ are better now than they were during the Trump administration. Both are almost certainly worse under Garland.

    Glad we agree there.

    So, given that, maybe calling on Trump supporters to hold massive protests isn’t such a great idea? What do you think the fed informants and corrupt law enforcement can goad the Trumpers into doing this time? I’m afraid that we’re going to find out.

    The problem is they don’t just “goad”, they also seem happy to false flag and act as provocateurs.

    The only way to change any of this is to win elections.

    Which is nice in theory but also kind of overstated. You also seem to be massively understating the amount of corruption and fraud involved, as well as how important muscular, mass shows of will and mobilization are. I know that many protest groups played an integral role in securing the 2000 Florida elections from… let’s just say “Very Suspicious” behavior by Gore partisans that would probably have undercut the chain of custody for votes with the intention of giving their man the win. That has played out less dramatically but at least as importantly since there.

    You might say that it isn’t 2000 anymore and that is absolutely true, but you need a certain background level of buzzing and mobilization.

    Maybe the FBI actually violated the law here, but maybe not.

    If it was legal I would not expect the FBI to be acting so shadily about it.

    If what the FBI did was legal, you can bet your bottom dollar that Democrats won’t lift a finger to ban it. That would limit their power. Complaints, especially complaints from Trump, are going to be ignored by partisan Democrats and the relatively non-political alike, just as the J6 complaints have been ignored outside of right-leaning circles.

    I think you are underestimating the power of the drip drip developments here. It is going maddeningly slowly, that is true, but the revelations are starting to leak into the more “Mainstream” and they are having an effect. Victory Girls Blog and a few others have covered leftist or centrist confessions that they believed lies about January 6. So they are having an effect. That doesn’t mean they will have ENOUGH of an effect, but we are not helped by ceasing complaints on these issues. Especially with proof.

    Frederick – So what do you suggest?

    Politics is a spectator sport, for better or worse. The main focus should be on voter integrity, but we must continue airing these complaints and engaging in at least a few protests, especially when they can be used to help safeguard the vote and deter fraud.

    the Democrats have controlled the executive branch for 10 of the last 12 years. If Republicans don’t win in 2024, Democrats will have had control the executive branch for 16 out of 20 years.

    Which is exactly part of the problem. There are no silver bullets for the Democrat Party, but giving up or not being heard is not a good way to stop that.

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