Democrats are horrified by the lies of George Santos and demand that he resign
After all, Republican lies are SO much worse than Democrat lies (which don’t exist).
This is particularly hypocritical, in light of Joe Biden and family:
Another New York Democrat, Rep. Ritchie Torres, urged the House Ethics Committee to probe the Republican’s fundraising on the campaign trail, saying the “complete fabrication” of his background could signal other issues.
“George Santos admits his life story is a complete fabrication. His pitiful confession should not distract us from concerns about possible criminality and corruption. The Ethics Committee MUST investigate how he made his money. Where there’s smoke, there’s fire,” Ritchie said.
I have to say that Santos is indeed quite the fabulist, which is not the same as being fabulous:
“I am not a criminal,” Santos said at one point during his exclusive interview. “This [controversy] will not deter me from having good legislative success. I will be effective. I will be good.”
Santos’ professional biography was called into question earlier this month after the New York Times reported that he misrepresented a number of claims, including where he attended college and his alleged employment history with high-profile Wall Street firms.
“My sins here are embellishing my resume. I’m sorry,” Santos said Monday.
You have to read the article to comprehend the extent of Santos lies. They involved just about everything the guy said – including that he was Jewish when he is Catholic, that he is a college graduate although he’s not, and on and on and on. His answers sound like a Saturday Night Live sketch, but unfortunately these are the excuses he’s actually made. Here’s my personal favorite:
“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”
But as Don Surber says, in this day and age:
After Fetterman, all that matters is if the candidate is an R or a D because that is all that matters. That is how Democrats play it. That is how conservatives should play it. What makes us any better than Democrats? The high road leads to Loserville…
If we can live with the lies that Biden’s wife was killed by a drunk driver (he was sober and she ran a stop sign), that his son Beau died in Iraq (he had cancer), and that Biden knew nothing about Hunter collecting bribes, then we can live with the fibs that Santos used. If Democrats can embellish their life stories, so can he.
The real threat to this nation are not the resume liars in Congress but the perjurers at the FBI, CIA and the bowels of the bureaucracy. The FBI spied on Trump at the behest of Obama. As long as that crime goes unchallenged, anything goes…
Democrats love to try and pick off people they see as the weak ones…[Santos] may be a lying sack of pus but by golly, he is our lying sack of pus and if Democrats can stand by their liars, Fetterman, and that wife-beater Warnock, then darn it, I stand by him.
Sadly, that’s what it’s down to.
I wonder if Santos is also lying about being a Republican, though…
I saw the interview with Gabbard on Carlson’s show and it was harsh. Also she showed either a statement by him or something written that indicates he was a Jew, not Jew-ish as he’s trying to claim.
As to his claims of working for the big Wall St. firms, he was in the business.
The voters of his district should decide is fate, but unfortunately recall isn’t an option.
And the joke, “how do you tell if a congressman is lying? They’re moving their lips” may be somewhat true, but the bigger issue is the Democrats may move to not seat him, which would require the Republicans to vote for the fabulist.
Republicans can’t catch a break.
Next, Elizabeth Warren will take him to task for lying on a resume.
“I wonder if Santos is also lying about being a Republican, though…”
Occurred to me as well.
Could this guy be just another out-and-out NY nut?
Before we say, “SURE LOOKS THAT WAY”…it would be verrrry interesting to find out who’s actually been funding him.
(Or rather, WHO’s been funding THOSE who have been funding him.)
No, it’s no phone thinking up scenarios of this nature.
Alas, it’s the zeitgeist…
We had a fellow in south florida david rivera who ran for congress he misrepresented his income (lobbying income from his mother for casinos) he had a dodgy personal life but the state leg protected him at least for a while
Of course they found a white toga republican to investigate ann donnelly
By the Biden standard, lying about one’s personal history is not a problem. Biden’s been doing it since the 1970s. And really, unless there is some evidence of felonious behavior from this guy, he stays in Congress. Voters can decide in two years if they want a replacement.
You have the Nassau County Republican Committee, the Suffolk County Republican Committee, the New York State Republican Committee, and the Republican National Committee. Among all the party committeemen and paid staff, there is no one in any of these entities who does due diligence on Congressional candidates. This man could have been exposed as a fraud with a few internet searches and some phone calls.
Leave him there. Line up a primary challenger to him in two years.
He ought to just say the truth: Catholucs are Jews. If they weren’t then the Jews wouldn’t allow them on the SCOTUS with them. So he didn’t lie at all.
All I can say is that if a criminal investigation can take out George Santos then it’s full speed ahead to get Biden. He’s far worse.
That last bit will probably be a headline at The Babylon Bee within a day or so.
Of course it doesnt work that way kate,
Art Deco:
But the surprising thing is that the Democrats don’t seem to have researched him, either.
Unless he’s really a stealth Democrat, as I said. Although I meant it as a joke, it wouldn’t utterly surprise me if it turns out to be true.
Well, at least don’t lie about something which is so easily checked as your education. I knew a guy that moved from Virginia to California for a new job, then I later heard he was fired. Seems he exagerated his education.
A faulty fabulist, because not a Democrat.
Joe Cunningham, at Red State, is wondering where Santos’s money came from:
https://redstate.com/joesquire/2022/12/28/its-not-the-lies-that-bother-me-about-george-santos-n679975
Of course, Biden family fortunes deserve close scrutiny, too.
Ray says, “Well, at least don’t lie about something which is so easily checked as your education.”
Ditto for military service. There’s that pride of the Senate “Da Nang Dick” Blumenthal (Guess That Party–CT), who lied about serving in the Vietnam War (he received 5 draft deferments during the war, then enlisted in the USMC Reserve in 1970, which virtually guaranteed he would not be sent to ‘Nam).
Ah veselberg when hillary was receiving money from him through the foundation that was totes fine
Just goes to show how little the news media and the parties care about the quality of the candidates.
That Fetterman, Hobbs, Warnock, and Santos can be elected to national office is a black mark against those who are supposed to inform voters who they are voting for. And begs a question: Do the voters know or care?
Isn’t this really just a ‘So What?’ answer, given the state of affairs at present? Tell them all to check back in 30 years or so.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1607996385759993856
Don Surber thinks Santos should be elected Speaker.
https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/12/make-george-santos-speaker.html
People generally don’t remember, but there were *two* issues that tripped Biden up during his presidential bid way back in 1988. The one that everyone remembers is his plagiarism. But he was also running an ad that lied about his college grades.
In any case, it’s up to the local voters to figure out what to do with Santos. They’ll have an opportunity to review the matter in just under two years. In the meantime, he’ll join the ranks of such august individuals as Elizabeth Warren, “Da Nang Dick” Blumenthal, AOC, “Beto” O’Rourke, and – of course – President Biden.
Though that financing item that Kate linked to at RedState is something unrelated that should probably be checked into.
“The real threat to this nation are not the resume liars in Congress but the perjurers at the FBI, CIA and the bowels of the bureaucracy.”
I’m so sick at the Twitter files and the bureaucracy Dem Deep State, the lies of a Congressman don’t matter nearly as much as his votes. Which we don’t really know yet – but he’s unlikely to be a bigger Rino than McConnell.
We need 10 year term limits on Federal Gov’t Service. So those there don’t have jobs for life, but serve a good while then back into Real Life.
People generally don’t remember, but there were *two* issues that tripped Biden up during his presidential bid way back in 1988. The one that everyone remembers is his plagiarism. But he was also running an ad that lied about his college grades.
The really decisive incident was a public address he gave in which he passed off Neil Kinnock’s family history as his own (and in the course of which he engaged in word-for-word plagiarism of one of Kinnock’s speeches). That should have been enough right there to destroy him in Delaware; he was re-elected four additional times.
We need 10 year term limits on Federal Gov’t Service. So those there don’t have jobs for life, but serve a good while then back into Real Life.
1. Rotation-in-office rules would be satisfactory for elected officials and discretionary appointments – i.e. mandatory retirement the calendar year you reach your 76th birthday, mandatory departure if you’ve held a particular appointed position for 12 of the last 14 years, mandatory stand-down if you’ve held a particular elected position for 14 of the last 16 years or would hit that wall during a prospective elected term.
2. It should also be impossible to insinuate a discretionary appointment into the civil service or the military. Recruitment to the federal civil service should always begin with a serious screening examination and promotion invariably regulated by competitive written examinations. In some cases, superiors should be able to make a discretionary selection from among those who have passed the examination. In others, you interview the top three scorers (or more, in the case if tie scores at the top) and select among them. There might be parallel tracks for those in the 4% of the workforce ensconced in the fancy professions, but it would be invariably the rule that promotion requires you pay your dues at the lower ranks.
3. It should not be difficult to discharge a civilian federal employee. If three persons in your chain of command counter-sign a letter of dismissal, that should suffice. You’d be due a post-termination hearing in front of a panel of examiners at which time you and your counsel could present a case that you were fired for one of 6 or 7 impermissible reasons. If the panel finds there is probable cause to believe so, you’re due another hearing before a panel of arbitrators. If the arbitrators determine (by a preponderance of the evidence) that you’ve been traduced, you get an indemnity and are free to apply for other federal positions; the matter is then referred to an ombudsman who may bring charges against the people who countersigned your letter of dismissal (for which the penalty would be dismissal and debarment from applying for federal employment for a term of years). It’s important that prospective civil servants be screened. It is injurious to the commonweal to grant them life tenure.
4. Compensation for federal employees of all kinds should be transparent.
a. Each should be credited with a ”stated compensation” which consists of the sum of hourly wages over 14 days or a monthly salary. Added to this would be a small increment for perquisites paid for by their agency for which the charges would be distributed over sets of employees; you’d be due a quarterly itemized statement of the perquisites available to your set.
b. Then your pay stub would have a list of withholdings – for Social Security, Medicare, unemployment compensation, federal income taxes, state income taxes, your retirement account; medical insurance available to employees and their dependents, long-term care insurance so available, medigap insurance available to retirees and their dependents, and ltc insurance available to retirees and their dependents.
c. The federal government as employer would be responsible for a workman’s compensation policy and for the employer’s portion of Social Security, Medicare, and unemployment compensation. All other benefits would be financed through withholding on employee paychecks amounting to a particular % of the ‘stated compensation’ up to a dollar-value maximum. The dollar-value maximum would be a function of nominal employee compensation per worker in the economy at large and adjusted every year.
d. For the provision of medical insurance to federal employees and their dependents, each federal employee would be randomly assigned to a cohort on hire. There might be about 15 cohorts with about 200,000 employees each in them. Each year, the federal government would let out a three year contract to supply medical insurance to 1/3 of its cohorts. You have about five cohorts to insure this year; the contracts have both a substantive and procedural component. The premium to be paid to the winner of the contract consists of the assessment on the sum of employees in the cohort over the next three years of paychecks. Insurers admitted to the bidder pool are permitted to place bids on perhaps two of the available cohorts. The bids are in the form of the deductible to be required of beneficiaries. The deductible on all policies will be $x for a one-person household, $2x for a two-person household, and $3x for a household with more than two persons, so the bid solicited will be for a one-person household, those to be charged of larger households being implicit.
e. You can have a similar bidding process for medigap and ltc insurance. The deductible for ltc insurance would be the maximum value of available and attachable assets ‘ere the insurance kicks in, not the obligation of the individual household. If your available and attachable assets are nada, that’s your deductible.
f. Federal retirement programs should be defined contribution plans, not defined benefit plans. A minimum of 15% of your stated compensation would be withheld for your retirement account, to which you could add more at your discretion. For federal employees earning early retirement credits, a minimum of 30% of their stated compensation would be withheld.
g. Those earning early retirement credits would be limited to (1) military, (2) uniformed police, (3) construction workers. If you’re earning early retirement credit, you earn one month for every three months of f/t work. Ordinarily, your retirement account will be inaccessible until you are eligible for Medicare.
h. Mean compensation per worker in the federal government should be similar to that in the larger economy.
i. Compensation for members of Congress and for federal judges should be adjusted annually and be a function of the Bureau of Labor Statistics assessment of the mean annual income of lawyers in this country. The Vice President would be compensated similarly.
j. Certain federal employees would receive special services during their time in office. Primarily, the special service would be a security detail.
k. The President would receive both a regular compensation package formatted like that of an ordinary federal employee and a long menu of special services which are items in the budget of the White House staff (and would include transfers to other agencies which provide services at the White House). Former presidents and their households would be entitled to a menu of services similarly specified but limited to a lifetime secretarial staff to answer their mail and schedule their appointments, to a security detail for 12 years, and to a temporary archival staff to organize their papers for deposit in the National Archives.
5. All federal civilian employees (bar elected officials and federal judges) should be compelled to retire at age 76 regardless. They should short of that be compelled to retire when they are eligible for full Social Security, eligible for Medicare, and have completed 40 years of service (pro-rating for years of p/t service). Military retirements would occur per current practice. (If I’m not mistaken, nearly everyone over the age of 55 in the military is a flag-rank officer; there are fewer than 600 flag rank officers).
He may be our lying sack of puss… but he still is a lying sack of puss. The only thing I want is to use the rules so WE can replace him, which the local GOP should do. There are many who will die on the hill of Mah Principles, and just jettison him and let the D’s take the seat. That’s NOT what they would do. They might get rid of their guys (Al Franken anyone) but they will be replaced by THEIR guy.
They have already stolen seats through the census through ranked choice et al
THe trouble with Don Surber’s analysis is this:
Who would ever want to rely on Santos for anything.
The GOP does not have a majority in the House but a razor edge the Gillette company would envy. What odds do you want to give that Santos will always be there to back up the conservative cause?
As compared to the rest of the gop delegation we saw what they did to marjorie greene something that was not done to real malefactors like omar or swalwell
We need 10 year term limits on Federal Gov’t Service. So those there don’t have jobs for life, but serve a good while then back into Real Life.
I think the real problem is with recruitment practices, promotion practices, employee discipline, employee compensation modes, and one other thing. The other thing is the scope of the federal government’s activities. Reducing the scope and concomitant employment is key.
1. Reduce the verbiage of the federal penal code. The federal penal code and criminal penalties incorporated into other codes should be limited to (a) process crimes contra the operation of the courts and the execution of their orders e.g. contempt of court, perjury), (b) crimes where the federal government as a legal person and federal employees at work are the injured parties (e.g trespassing and burglary on federal property, defrauding the government, counterfeiting and forgery of government documents and issue, tax evasion), (c) public corruption charges in re federal or state officials (bribery, extortion, &c), (e) national security offenses (treason, espionage, insurrection), (f) offenses against people exercising their civil rights (assaults, intimidation, fraud); (g) traveling or transporting persons across jurisdictional lines contrary to immigration law, to the law governing fugitives, to law governing the custody of juveniles and incompetent persons, or to laws on kidnapping; (h) carrying or shipping contraband across jurisdictional frontiers; (i) defrauding persons in another jurisdiction and defrauding travelers in your jurisdiction; (j) undertaking an anticipatory offense with or with regard to a person operating in another jurisdiction (anticipatory offenses are solicitation, conspiracy, attempt, and facilitation). It’s not hard to think of splashy cases which should have involved federal prosecutors only on the margins if at all (Patty Hearst and Jared Fogle to name two).
2. Radically reduce the use of grand juries in the federal system, requiring preliminary hearings in front of an investigative magistrate instead.
3. Require the U.S. Attorney’s office to pay the legal fees of defendants in inverse proportion to the share of charges on the original bill of particulars on which they are able to secure a conviction. Oliver North, to take one example, was convicted on three counts of a 23 count indictment. Lawrence Walsh’s office should have been compelled to pay 87% of the fees due under his retainer agreement.
4. End unqualified immunity for prosecutors and judges.
5. Recalibrate the sentencing in the federal penal code. The J6 defendants should have been looking at 1 day in jail and an $80 fine.
6. Have a regular schedule of indemnities for federal defendants falsely imprisoned. (Including those whose sentence was exceeded by their pre-trial detention).
7. Limit the authority of federal regulatory agencies to transactions occurring across jurisdictional lines. Among the implications of this would be: (a) federal agencies would have jurisdiction over collective bargaining rights or general employment standards in situ only if the enterprise in question was employing people in multiple jurisdictions; (b) vendor to vendor and vendor to consumer transactions would only be subject to federal regulation if the parties were located in different jurisdictions; (c) health and safety regulations would apply only to merchandise shipped out of state, to inter-state shipping and transportation services, and to material whose injuries are inherently latent for long periods; (d) federal environmental regulation would apply only to pollution of long-distance air currents, interstate watersheds, coastal waters, federal property, and pollutants with long-delayed effects.
8. Limit federal welfare provision to specialty clientele and to a menu of expensive programs which do not employ many people. The federal welfare state should have six components: (a) overseas development and relief; (b) emergency response and disaster relief; (c) cash, vouchers, insurance, and services for veterans; (d) Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, SSI, and unemployment compensation; (e) the Job Corps, the Commissioned Corps of the Public Health Service, and subsidies to medical care, long term care, schooling, legal services, shipping and transportation, or some combination thereof to the eligible among niche clientele (Americans living abroad, residents of current and former insular dependencies, reservation Indians, people living in remote areas, military families, miscellaneous persons in itinerant occupations, people facing actions in federal court), and (f) tax rebates which function as matching funds for earned income and income supplements for the elderly and disabled. A whole mess of things should go: SNAP and other nutrition programs, all housing subsidies, TANF, LIHEAP, miscellanous slush funds for local welfare agencies, federal aid to local school districts and to state education departments, federal financing of tertiary schooling (bar ROTC, veterans benefits, and some odds and ends).
9. Radically simplify the federal tax code.
10. In regard to transportation: for long-haul Interstates, have the federal government set up toll booths to finance their maintenance; toll collections would be distributed to dedicated funds in each of the 50 states on a per-acres-of-macadam basis. For short-haul Interstates and U.S. Routes, just define the routes and distribute the signage. Have regular safety inspections for U.S. Routes and Interstates and put certain routes in a federal trusteeship if a state persistently refuses maintenance and repair. Put federally owned railways on the auction bloc. Auction off take-off and landing slots at airports. (And, pretty please, increase the minimum space per passenger on airline flights).
11. With regard to federal land: (a) grant the holders of grazing permits an indemnity calculated according to formulae, then auction off the entire inventory of the Bureau of Land Management; (b) sequester old growth forest, turning it over to the National Park Service, state park services, or to outfits like the Nature Conservancy; (c) auction off federal forest land in any state which has added an amendment to its constitution debarring the imposition of property taxes on woodlands; (d) retain monuments, parks, preserves, and trail systems to be managed by the National Park Service or the Fish and Wildlife Service if they (i) cross state lines or (ii) commemorate an event in national history; turn the rest over to state park services and local philanthropies (NB, Franklin Roosevelt’s house does not commemorate and event in the nation’s history; sell it to a private buyer or turn it over to a local philanthropy).
12. Limit federal payments to local governments to: (i) compensation for the provision of voluntarily contracted services; (ii) payment in lieu of property taxes; (iii) indemnities for regulatory decisions which require bond issues in order to comply with them; and (iv) disaster relief. Limit payments to state and territorial governments to i, iii, and iv above, to the distribution of toll revenue on long-haul Interstates, to the financing of Medicaid, to the financing of unemployment compensation, and to an unrestricted grant determined by formula (and meant to help the more impecunious states and territories). End the extortion and manipulation of state and local government.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/12/28/joe-bidens-top-15-most-outlandish-lies/
We could write about the lies told by Obama and the Clintons, but I have more productive plans for my time for the next 12 months.
What really grates is that this dude is totally NEW.
A ROOKIE.
And here he thinks he can go ahead and lie like “Joe Biden”.
What nerve!
At least Biden paid his dues, busted his chops, worked long and hard to be able to lie like he does, plagiarize, gaslight shamelessly with style and panache… Like the PRO he is.
(To be fair to the man, at this point he’d have us all in the ER if he decided to say anything that remotely resembled the truth…so maybe he should just stick to his strength…)
But this guy?
Where does this guy get off?
Who the heck does he think he is?
Lying right off the bat. (Actually, in the on-deck circle…)
What would his (Jewish? or Jew-ish?) grandmother say to him??
(Hint: It’s a Shonda Georgie, an absolute Shonda! What would the goyim say? Oh, wait…)
Term limits don’t appear to have helped in California. Yes, there’s something to be said for rotating out senile deadwood in the legislatures. But there’s also something to be said for legislators that know they might have to deal with the consequences of their actions in fifteen years.
Term limits don’t appear to have helped in California. Yes, there’s something to be said for rotating out senile deadwood in the legislatures. But there’s also something to be said for legislators that know they might have to deal with the consequences of their actions in fifteen years.
They won’t have to deal with them.
That aside, you have a stew problems not addressed by term limits. You need to address all of your consequential problems.
AOC was accused of being an actress who got her job by auditioning for the Justice Democrats organization, but if organizations do the necessary background checks auditioning for them wouldn’t be a bad idea.
I have no love for Alexandria, but the accusation was something of a cheap shot. She still had to go up against a formidable incumbent in the primary. Campaigning itself is a series of auditions, and politicians like Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford got their start in politics by “auditioning” for local donors. In some districts powerful clubs or activist organizations have taken the place of older political machines.
Daniel Greenfield has a great piece on the Santos kerfluffle. The title says it all.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/if-george-santos-should-resign-so-should-biden/
Raymond luxury yacht as good a name as any im reminded of how george lazenby talked his way into the bond film
Those without sin are again casting stones at George:
George Santos Faces Two More Calls for Ouster From Fellow Republicans
Representatives Marc Molinaro and Anthony D’Esposito on Tuesday came out in favor of expulsion for George Santos, a fellow New York Republican, building on a groundswell of support for the move as the embattled fabulist rejects demands to voluntarily resign from the House.
What, pray tell, causes politicians to draw long knives against this teller of fables? Is it the flagrant manner of his deceptions that offends them? Considering the unspeakably foul and illegitimate entity presently occupying the White House, how then, honestly, can anything else possibly offend?