George the hobbit, I mean mouse. Hmm. Were there ever any hobbits named George?
Since it is right on point, I repeat my comment from the last open thread below involving a young woman and her chicken “Boo.”
The above video is a funny, whimsical little occurrence, and I am all for appreciating all the lifeforms that make up our biosphere, and for treating them with kindness and respect.
However, as most of us move further and further away from the experience of what used to be an overwhelmingly agrarian America–and influenced by the Disneyfication of wildlife–it becomes easier and easier for some people to believe that animals are not unpredictable and often dangerous wild creatures at all (dangerous in terms of possible violence, dangerous, as well, in terms of possible disease transmission), but are, instead, just people in funny suits, and to attribute all sorts of human characteristics to them.
This, of course, leads to situations like that of Boo, to tourists out West walking up to Bison to touch them or * to get “selfies” with them, and to situations like that of “Grizzlyman” Timothy Treadwell. * *
Some Managerialist Bugman should quickly shut it down and maximise his bonus. Any government subsidies saved could better be spent on IVF treatment for Lesbians.
Hello, Snow.
I appreciate that point. I think one reason that I like wild nature – or at least as wild as I can make it for myself, given my limitations – is that it’s generally a WYSIWYG environment. Actual deceit of human type is, I think, quite infrequent in nature. Misdirection, yes; cleverness, yes; but none of it is with malice aforethought, and that seems to me to be the key difference. If a bear is going to eat me, it doesn’t try to pretend to be my friend first. I appreciate that honesty.
Could any Western country build this thing in less than 20 years?
…the Disneyfication of wildlife … — Snow on Pine
One of my tinier missions in life is to debunk lemming suicide.
__________________________________
But the biggest reason the myth [of lemming suicide] endures? Deliberate fraud. For the 1958 Disney nature film White Wilderness, filmmakers eager for dramatic footage staged a lemming death plunge, pushing dozens of lemmings off a cliff while cameras were rolling. The images—shocking at the time for what they seemed to show about the cruelty of nature and shocking now for what they actually show about the cruelty of humans—convinced several generations of moviegoers that these little rodents do, in fact, possess a bizarre instinct to destroy themselves.
This, of course, leads to situations like that of Boo, to tourists out West walking up to Bison to touch them or * to get “selfies” with them, and to situations like that of “Grizzlyman” Timothy Treadwell. * *
You know about these incidents because they are rare and the subject of human interest stories. There are 370 million people living in North America. Some each year are bound to have freak mishaps or do stupid things.
That is an interesting link. It convinces me that if one never goes hiking off the main trails in Jellystone, Yogi probably aint gonna get you.
But Jellystone’s roads and groomed paths are probably not where most people rationally worried about confronting a predatory or aggressive bear, be it black, brown, or grizzled expect to encounter one. It’s probably on the path down through the alders to the salmon stream in the North West, or stumbling upon a mother with cubs in Minnesota or Northern Michigan’s UP.
Most black bears as you know Art, are probably a couple hundred pounds. But you have probably also been up close and personal, even if it is on the other side of a fence, with a 450 or even 500 pound black bear. And even a 200 lb bear would make short work of any unarmed man if it chose to. If you were to encounter one in an aggressive mood, you damn well better have something with real – I mean REAL – stopping power.
Well, emptying the 10 rnd magazine of a 7.62X39 SKS carbine into it before it got within 150 feet would probably do the trick too. If … you had the time to react and set up.
But then, they would call it “murder” LOL
“In an actual charge, the bear means business and has decided to take you apart at the seams. The bear’s nose usually will be pointed downward, its ears will be flattened back and its hackles (the fur on the top of its neck) likely will be raised. Nelson and instructors Mike Harrington, with Alaska Fish and Game, and Matt Sexson, with USGS, stress that we must remember this would occur at blinding speed. Most reported bear charges start from about 50 yards away. A charging bear covers 15 yards a second. Do the math: A bear charging from 50 yards will be on you in less than 4 seconds. This is why Nelson spends so much time on the range emphasizing familiarization and speed with your firearm.”
Almost every four footed animal is faster than a human. Teeth, claws, antlers, horns, hooves, or just mass, oh, and instincts that identify you as prey or predator. Not Disney.
I have lived in Washington State from more than 45 years, more than half that time in rural areas in which it is alleged that large dangerous animals abound. Once at my Tiger Mountain place I got called by the school and told to “meet your kindergartener at the bus. There is a mountain lion in your neighborhood “. On another occasion, my kid, now in middle school walked in and announced that there was a bear in the yard. The other day I was over at the Tiger Mt place and the garbage had been raided by a bear the night before.
My wife has dodged bears on our road. A couple of weekends ago my neighbor texted me tell me a bear was passing through their yard. The same neighbor let me know a couple of months ago that she had spotted a mountain lion with three kits a couple of hundred yards up the hill from my house. These creatures have passed all around me sometimes within a hundred feet.
And I have never in 45 years seen one. I personally have no more proof that bears and mountain lions roam both my neighborhoods than I do for Big Foot.
“And I have never in 45 years seen one. I personally have no more proof that bears and mountain lions roam both my neighborhoods than I do for Big Foot.”
It’s probably a function of not only how much time you spend outdoors, but how you spend it.
If you are working in the back 40 with your chain saw, or driving along on your ATV, I would not be surprised. A lot of people who seem to see animals in their yards are also older sedentary folks who are quietly parked on their rear decks, or drinking coffee by the kitchen window, as that 14 point monster buck or bobcat emerges briefly from the woods and cuts across the back corner of the lawn.
I have only seen one wolf: and that was from a pretty good distance … as it stood facing out of the wood, looking at me as I roamed alone in the farm’s back fields, armed with a switch to swipe aimlessly at the timothy, and a Swiss army knife for nothing in particular. It was … rather disquieting.
My friend was turkey hunting from a blind about 200 yards from there when he perceived a wolf stalking back and forth behind his camouflage. A 12 gauge with number six shot suddenly seemed pitifully inadequate.
There are by the way, officially “No wolves in our area”. Those tracks are probably half breed wolf-dogs, or something. Pay it no mind. There is nothing there.
@DNW:
Well obviously there are no wolves in that area until credentialed experts inform us of their presence.
Here’s an example of something which didn’t officially exist until recently:
“In yet another example of long-delayed discovery, forms of high-altitude lightning were observed for at least a century before becoming officially real (as opposed to really real).”
Large wildlife seen on the Hanford Nuclear Reservation in 20+ years working there:
Deer, Elk, Beavers, Porcupines, Coyotes. Working alone in the field had it’s benefits.
Encountered one Black Bear at work while walking on a US Forest Circus road on the east side of WA Cascades, both of us were unarmed. Worst work encounter with wildlife was unexpectedly finding a nest of Yellow Jackets.
I just happened to see about a six or so foot gator in the water off a dock I was on two days ago, and poisonous snakes, in particular copper heads, are a common occurrence in my area, as are the occasional shark in the water at our beaches.
The volcano that recently came back to life in Iceland (an area where the North American plate is up against and separating from the Eurasian plate) has caught my attention, and there are lots of fascinating videos of the changing eruption, and of the progress of the lava that is pouring out and, at a steadily increasing rate of flow, filling valleys in the area. *
As with humans who get too close to wild animals, some of these videos are of tourists—it appears hundreds of tourists—young and old–are streaming into the site to observe this eruption—who are getting closer and closer—some within a few feet of the lava flows.
The hillsides of the valleys above the lava flows, where many of the observers are, are very uneven and covered with volcanic rocks and ankle-twisting rubble, and it seems to me that someone could very easily stumble, roll a little ways, and end up being dumped into the ever moving lava on the ground below.
Down in the valleys themselves some people are taking positions only a couple of feet away from the front of the lava, and could also very easily stumble and fall into it.
In addition to the danger from the lava itself, there are also the toxic fumes that are released as part of the eruption, as well as showers of sharp, volcanic glass that rain down on those who get too close to the eruption—great for your lungs and eyes I am sure.
Moreover, videos show that some few tourists are actually walking out on the still steaming, black broken crust of the lava, even though drone images of holes that have appeared in the crust have shown that rivers of molten lava are still flowing under these crusts.
The same obliviousness that is at work with people and wild animals?
As usual, much of the GOP is worse than useless on this. Some good material on what a @#$^bag Glenn Youngkin is.
Why I believe that refusing to fight CRT by saying that it is Anti-White (it clearly is) shows that one is fundamentally not serious about winning, or too naive, or maybe not really on the same side of the Friend / Foe divide:
“…if you want to revolt against the system, you first start by revolting against the language of the system. The word “racism” represents a social construct created by the ruling class to perpetuate their control of the masses. It can never be used against the system that created it. The so-called conservatives banging on about racism are just defending the moral framework of the left by validating the language.
On the other hand, the word “antiwhite” is like kryptonite. The reason the system cries out in pain when it hears that term used with regards to something like critical race theory is that it does real damage to their moral framing. It is a word outside of their control, so it can be used against them. Using the term on a person, calling them antiwhite, strips them of their moral authority, reducing them to a rank partisan.
All wars are moral wars. This is especially true in a culture war, where both sides must view every issue as a zero-sum game. If the other side is evil, there can be no compromise, as to compromise with evil is to endorse it. If the right, however defined, is to join the culture war, it must first reclaim the moral high ground, and that starts with reclaiming the language. Understand the language of the enemy and you understand his vulnerabilities and you can create the language weapons for the fight.”
Scott Adams – Criminal Racists’ Theories reduce everyone to LOA: Loosers Or Ass*oles. BIPOCs are today’s Loosers and non-BIPOCs are today’s Ass*holes.
The Criminal Racists just want to be in charge of which category you are assigned to IMO.
Children’s Book about Abortion. I guess it had to come to this.
Well yes, of course, AS LONG AS one knows what one’s definition of “moral” is…and then either sticks to it or (as is more than sometimes the case) tweaks it as needed.
(Keeping Humpty Dumpty’s pragmatic aphorism in mind, certainly.)
For example, in the US government’s war on government debt (and on the citizenry), “Biden” has hit upon the most ingenious (and time-honored) idea of encouraging (and enabling) the debt to evaporate by—yes that’s right—destroying the currency.
File under: “Damn the consequences, full steam ahead!!” (Or maybe that should be, “Where have you gone, Paul Krugman? O! Our nation lifts its lonely eyes to you….”)…. Or whatever…
Paul Krugman, the man who taught me to re-evaluate Mahathir Mohamad. Being young and stupid I lapped up all Krugman’s rantings about Mahathir being an asshat for implementing exchange controls in the late 90s after the Crash.
Took me years to realise that stopping your country being looted by outsiders isn’t a crime. At which point I re-evaluated Krugman.
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“Simon says…” heh.
George the hobbit, I mean mouse. Hmm. Were there ever any hobbits named George?
Since it is right on point, I repeat my comment from the last open thread below involving a young woman and her chicken “Boo.”
The above video is a funny, whimsical little occurrence, and I am all for appreciating all the lifeforms that make up our biosphere, and for treating them with kindness and respect.
However, as most of us move further and further away from the experience of what used to be an overwhelmingly agrarian America–and influenced by the Disneyfication of wildlife–it becomes easier and easier for some people to believe that animals are not unpredictable and often dangerous wild creatures at all (dangerous in terms of possible violence, dangerous, as well, in terms of possible disease transmission), but are, instead, just people in funny suits, and to attribute all sorts of human characteristics to them.
This, of course, leads to situations like that of Boo, to tourists out West walking up to Bison to touch them or * to get “selfies” with them, and to situations like that of “Grizzlyman” Timothy Treadwell. * *
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZJUpX4tz2I
**See https://watchdocumentaries.com/grizzly-man/
Have a look at this quaint railway car and station:
Solo Train Journey Through The Japanese Countryside
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLyeX0EQF10
Some Managerialist Bugman should quickly shut it down and maximise his bonus. Any government subsidies saved could better be spent on IVF treatment for Lesbians.
Also there is no Diversity. Sad.
You don’t see these every day. Nowadays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOy8u4uRJjc
Hello, Snow.
I appreciate that point. I think one reason that I like wild nature – or at least as wild as I can make it for myself, given my limitations – is that it’s generally a WYSIWYG environment. Actual deceit of human type is, I think, quite infrequent in nature. Misdirection, yes; cleverness, yes; but none of it is with malice aforethought, and that seems to me to be the key difference. If a bear is going to eat me, it doesn’t try to pretend to be my friend first. I appreciate that honesty.
Black-Pilled Daily Can Do:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dStITCgn73w
Could any Western country build this thing in less than 20 years?
…the Disneyfication of wildlife … — Snow on Pine
One of my tinier missions in life is to debunk lemming suicide.
__________________________________
But the biggest reason the myth [of lemming suicide] endures? Deliberate fraud. For the 1958 Disney nature film White Wilderness, filmmakers eager for dramatic footage staged a lemming death plunge, pushing dozens of lemmings off a cliff while cameras were rolling. The images—shocking at the time for what they seemed to show about the cruelty of nature and shocking now for what they actually show about the cruelty of humans—convinced several generations of moviegoers that these little rodents do, in fact, possess a bizarre instinct to destroy themselves.
–“Do Lemmings Really Commit Mass Suicide?”
https://www.britannica.com/story/do-lemmings-really-commit-mass-suicide
This, of course, leads to situations like that of Boo, to tourists out West walking up to Bison to touch them or * to get “selfies” with them, and to situations like that of “Grizzlyman” Timothy Treadwell. * *
You know about these incidents because they are rare and the subject of human interest stories. There are 370 million people living in North America. Some each year are bound to have freak mishaps or do stupid things.
https://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/nature/injuries.htm
That is an interesting link. It convinces me that if one never goes hiking off the main trails in Jellystone, Yogi probably aint gonna get you.
But Jellystone’s roads and groomed paths are probably not where most people rationally worried about confronting a predatory or aggressive bear, be it black, brown, or grizzled expect to encounter one. It’s probably on the path down through the alders to the salmon stream in the North West, or stumbling upon a mother with cubs in Minnesota or Northern Michigan’s UP.
Most black bears as you know Art, are probably a couple hundred pounds. But you have probably also been up close and personal, even if it is on the other side of a fence, with a 450 or even 500 pound black bear. And even a 200 lb bear would make short work of any unarmed man if it chose to. If you were to encounter one in an aggressive mood, you damn well better have something with real – I mean REAL – stopping power.
Well, emptying the 10 rnd magazine of a 7.62X39 SKS carbine into it before it got within 150 feet would probably do the trick too. If … you had the time to react and set up.
But then, they would call it “murder” LOL
https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2018/5/25/bear-defense-from-the-professionals/
and …
https://www.nrafamily.org/articles/2021/6/2/handguns-for-defense-in-bear-country
Almost every four footed animal is faster than a human. Teeth, claws, antlers, horns, hooves, or just mass, oh, and instincts that identify you as prey or predator. Not Disney.
I have lived in Washington State from more than 45 years, more than half that time in rural areas in which it is alleged that large dangerous animals abound. Once at my Tiger Mountain place I got called by the school and told to “meet your kindergartener at the bus. There is a mountain lion in your neighborhood “. On another occasion, my kid, now in middle school walked in and announced that there was a bear in the yard. The other day I was over at the Tiger Mt place and the garbage had been raided by a bear the night before.
My wife has dodged bears on our road. A couple of weekends ago my neighbor texted me tell me a bear was passing through their yard. The same neighbor let me know a couple of months ago that she had spotted a mountain lion with three kits a couple of hundred yards up the hill from my house. These creatures have passed all around me sometimes within a hundred feet.
And I have never in 45 years seen one. I personally have no more proof that bears and mountain lions roam both my neighborhoods than I do for Big Foot.
It’s probably a function of not only how much time you spend outdoors, but how you spend it.
If you are working in the back 40 with your chain saw, or driving along on your ATV, I would not be surprised. A lot of people who seem to see animals in their yards are also older sedentary folks who are quietly parked on their rear decks, or drinking coffee by the kitchen window, as that 14 point monster buck or bobcat emerges briefly from the woods and cuts across the back corner of the lawn.
I have only seen one wolf: and that was from a pretty good distance … as it stood facing out of the wood, looking at me as I roamed alone in the farm’s back fields, armed with a switch to swipe aimlessly at the timothy, and a Swiss army knife for nothing in particular. It was … rather disquieting.
My friend was turkey hunting from a blind about 200 yards from there when he perceived a wolf stalking back and forth behind his camouflage. A 12 gauge with number six shot suddenly seemed pitifully inadequate.
There are by the way, officially “No wolves in our area”. Those tracks are probably half breed wolf-dogs, or something. Pay it no mind. There is nothing there.
@DNW:
Well obviously there are no wolves in that area until credentialed experts inform us of their presence.
Here’s an example of something which didn’t officially exist until recently:
“In yet another example of long-delayed discovery, forms of high-altitude lightning were observed for at least a century before becoming officially real (as opposed to really real).”
https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2021/06/27/son-of-low-hanging-fruit-again/
Large wildlife seen on the Hanford Nuclear Reservation in 20+ years working there:
Deer, Elk, Beavers, Porcupines, Coyotes. Working alone in the field had it’s benefits.
Encountered one Black Bear at work while walking on a US Forest Circus road on the east side of WA Cascades, both of us were unarmed. Worst work encounter with wildlife was unexpectedly finding a nest of Yellow Jackets.
I just happened to see about a six or so foot gator in the water off a dock I was on two days ago, and poisonous snakes, in particular copper heads, are a common occurrence in my area, as are the occasional shark in the water at our beaches.
The volcano that recently came back to life in Iceland (an area where the North American plate is up against and separating from the Eurasian plate) has caught my attention, and there are lots of fascinating videos of the changing eruption, and of the progress of the lava that is pouring out and, at a steadily increasing rate of flow, filling valleys in the area. *
As with humans who get too close to wild animals, some of these videos are of tourists—it appears hundreds of tourists—young and old–are streaming into the site to observe this eruption—who are getting closer and closer—some within a few feet of the lava flows.
The hillsides of the valleys above the lava flows, where many of the observers are, are very uneven and covered with volcanic rocks and ankle-twisting rubble, and it seems to me that someone could very easily stumble, roll a little ways, and end up being dumped into the ever moving lava on the ground below.
Down in the valleys themselves some people are taking positions only a couple of feet away from the front of the lava, and could also very easily stumble and fall into it.
In addition to the danger from the lava itself, there are also the toxic fumes that are released as part of the eruption, as well as showers of sharp, volcanic glass that rain down on those who get too close to the eruption—great for your lungs and eyes I am sure.
Moreover, videos show that some few tourists are actually walking out on the still steaming, black broken crust of the lava, even though drone images of holes that have appeared in the crust have shown that rivers of molten lava are still flowing under these crusts.
The same obliviousness that is at work with people and wild animals?
* See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETTTRb0Fgo8
Good Summary of the CRT Push Back:
https://vdare.com/articles/loudoun-county-s-revolt-against-critical-race-theory-dems-should-worry-gop-gap-should-wake-up
As usual, much of the GOP is worse than useless on this. Some good material on what a @#$^bag Glenn Youngkin is.
Why I believe that refusing to fight CRT by saying that it is Anti-White (it clearly is) shows that one is fundamentally not serious about winning, or too naive, or maybe not really on the same side of the Friend / Foe divide:
https://www.takimag.com/article/watch-your-language/
“…if you want to revolt against the system, you first start by revolting against the language of the system. The word “racism” represents a social construct created by the ruling class to perpetuate their control of the masses. It can never be used against the system that created it. The so-called conservatives banging on about racism are just defending the moral framework of the left by validating the language.
On the other hand, the word “antiwhite” is like kryptonite. The reason the system cries out in pain when it hears that term used with regards to something like critical race theory is that it does real damage to their moral framing. It is a word outside of their control, so it can be used against them. Using the term on a person, calling them antiwhite, strips them of their moral authority, reducing them to a rank partisan.
All wars are moral wars. This is especially true in a culture war, where both sides must view every issue as a zero-sum game. If the other side is evil, there can be no compromise, as to compromise with evil is to endorse it. If the right, however defined, is to join the culture war, it must first reclaim the moral high ground, and that starts with reclaiming the language. Understand the language of the enemy and you understand his vulnerabilities and you can create the language weapons for the fight.”
Scott Adams – Criminal Racists’ Theories reduce everyone to LOA: Loosers Or Ass*oles. BIPOCs are today’s Loosers and non-BIPOCs are today’s Ass*holes.
The Criminal Racists just want to be in charge of which category you are assigned to IMO.
Children’s Book about Abortion. I guess it had to come to this.
https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/077/866/658/original/aae99467d2b7d5b0.jpg
Author A : https://womendeliver.org/classmember/carly-manes/
Author B (Perhaps Illustrator): Goes by the name of ‘Emulsify’ — Do you think they’re trying to tell us something?
Google search on Ms Manes is Instructive.
“All wars are moral wars.”
Well yes, of course, AS LONG AS one knows what one’s definition of “moral” is…and then either sticks to it or (as is more than sometimes the case) tweaks it as needed.
(Keeping Humpty Dumpty’s pragmatic aphorism in mind, certainly.)
For example, in the US government’s war on government debt (and on the citizenry), “Biden” has hit upon the most ingenious (and time-honored) idea of encouraging (and enabling) the debt to evaporate by—yes that’s right—destroying the currency.
Simply because it works every time, I guess…
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2021-06-26/inflation-their-endgame
File under: “Damn the consequences, full steam ahead!!” (Or maybe that should be, “Where have you gone, Paul Krugman? O! Our nation lifts its lonely eyes to you….”)…. Or whatever…
Paul Krugman, the man who taught me to re-evaluate Mahathir Mohamad. Being young and stupid I lapped up all Krugman’s rantings about Mahathir being an asshat for implementing exchange controls in the late 90s after the Crash.
Took me years to realise that stopping your country being looted by outsiders isn’t a crime. At which point I re-evaluated Krugman.