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Judge Cahill’s comments on Maxine Waters’ inflammatory statements

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[Hat tip: commenter “Kate.”]

Jonathan Turley is covering this development through his Twitter feed, so I’m going to post some of his tweets on it. The summary version is that Chauvin’s defense lawyer Nelson raised the issue of Waters’ prejudicial and inflammatory public remarks, and the judge condemned what she said and took note of it as possible grounds for appeal, but the trial will go on as before.

No surprise there. Turley adds that such remarks usually don’t cause a reversal on appeal. Cahill must know that, as well.

Here are some of the tweets:

It is glaringly obvious that this jury should have been sequestered. And that’s not just in hindsight; it was obvious from the start.

I also think that Cahill’s statement that Waters’ remarks don’t matter a lot is a copout. In fact, it’s true that her remarks as an individual don’t matter all that much, but they are emblematic of what’s been going on with this case from the start, and which has tainted it tremendously.

Judge Cahill has not done what he should have done to protect the defendant as best he could, knowing that it probably was already too late to protect him even before the trial begin. Nevertheless, the failure of the judge to do so also has encouraged “contempt for the judicial branch.” My guess is that Judge Cahill is not immune, either, to the fear of the mob – the mob that Waters was encouraging to engage in violence if Cahill and the jury don’t do what the mob wants.

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Judge Cahill’s comments on Maxine Waters’ inflammatory statements — 26 Comments

  1. It’s glaringly obvious there should have been a change of venue granted.

    Like to Montana.

  2. The unwillingness of many on the left to condemn the incendiary utterances of Mad Maxine is every bit as repulsive as the gloating by many of the same cretins on social media over the murder of Ashli Babbitt, whose completely unjustifiable shooting constitutes far more egregious misconduct than any of the misbehavior of January’s shambolic and unruly mob, the minimal destructiveness of which stands in sharp contrast to the billions in damage from last year’s looting and riots (to say nothing of at least two dozen murders) at the hands of Antifa/BLM thugs who are routinely excused, if not praised, by the MSM and by the Democratic Party.

  3. He will be convicted. There really can be no doubt at this point. Sure the evidence isn’t particularly good. Its completely irrelevant.

    The doxing of people who contributed to Kyle Rittenhouse is an indirect threat to the jurors. The fact that reporters are showing up at the houses of people who donated ten dollars to a defense fund. Is intimidation pure and simple. The timing of it in my opinion was done to sway both juries. And other potential defendants who cross the left.

    This keeps ramping up. And any attempt to quell the pressure from the left has been ineffective. No one in any position of power even seems interested in trying to stop the rioting. The left is playing for keeps. Trump may have kept a lid on some of this by them directing their ire to him. Now that he is gone and the enablers are in charge. Society will be taking the full brunt.

    I am furious watching the entire spectacle. Yet realize there is nothing I can do directly to oppose the violence. Mob rule is spreading. And the people in charge are simply waiting for an opposing mob to act. So they can crack down.

    Its sick. And I am utterly clueless what can be done within the law to stop it.

  4. Add Mad Maxine to the Minneapolis premature civil payoff of Floyd’s family…
    Yep. You got an appeal pending right there.

  5. Not that the lawsuit to which Waters is a party against Trump was going anywhere, but Turley points out that her remarks in Minneapolis are much more nearly incitement to violence than were Trump’s on Jan. 6.

  6. I agree with Mythx on the doxing of contributors to Rittenhouse’s defense fund. This is nauseating.

  7. Her statements violate the 5th and 14th amendments to the Constitution she swore an oath to uphold.

    The legislative branch does not hold its members accountable to that oath, nor are they punished for violating it. Voters do not recall Senators and Representatives who violate the oath.

    Turtles all the way down.

  8. Kate,

    It’s sick, but we are at a point where journalists and websites who disclose personal information need to be dox’xed themselves. Unfortunately, I fear that is the only way they will learn.

    Look at that recent news story about the female journalist at the NYT who makes a living exposing people’s “private” social media posts in an attempt to create scandal, who recently complained that people are mean to her on social media.

  9. What universe are Turly and Cahill occupying?

    Despite her obvious pathology, Wright is a senior member of Congress, and a widely advertised spokesperson for racial justice. She is neither “Joe Shxt, The Rag Man”, as inconsequential people were dubbed in USN Aviation, “Joe Bagadonuts”, being the sanitized version. (Another off topic thought; either sobriquet could reasonably be attached to our President.)

    (If neither of those make sense to you, that is ok. Lots of Naval Aviation does not make sense to rational people. As an example, taxiing on to a catapult when your life is literally in the hands of unseen sailors deep in the ship, who quite possibly flunked out of school, and if not mellowed on pot or something stronger at the moment, soon will be. If that individual does not accurately dial in the parameters for the catapult to produce sufficient thrust, you will not fly, but will conduct a functional test of the ejection/parachute systems. We won’t talk about the education and IQ of the ones who maintain those systems. Fortunately those young people typically perform their tasks more diligently than politicians and such.. I digress.)

    Even if she is a certifiable nut, it is of more than passing significance when a senior member of Congress calls for violence by her ‘community’. Then, putting Wright aside, there is the pig’s head incident. Intimidation here, intimidation there, intimidation everywhere.

    What does it take, Judge Cahill? Well, we know the routine. Kick the can along the garbage strewn path, and make it someone else’s problem. Chief Justice Roberts and his merry band of insulated appointees for life? Oh, no. You are doomed Chauvin.

    See, also my post on the City Council in Brooklyn Central, which admittedly threw a good man under the bus out of pure fear. The mob rules. I keep telling my wife that the peasants need to sharpen the pitchforks. But, who will lead?

  10. There is an argument going around that the jury should find him guilty on all charges with a written declaration that that their verdict is not based upon the law or evidence but upon their fear for their lives and those of their families. Such a verdict would provide grounds for an immediate appeal.

  11. DeSantis is already campaigning for the Republican presidential nomination, although that actually just involves doing things any conservative governor ought to be doing.

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/juliorosas/2021/04/19/ron-desantis-signs-antiriot-bill-into-law-n2588138

    “In Florida, we are taking an unapologetic stand for the rule of law and public safety. We are holding those who incite violence in our communities accountable, supporting our law enforcement officers who risk their lives every day to keep us safe and protecting Floridians from the chaos of mob violence,” DeSantis said. “We’re also putting an end to the bullying and intimidation tactics of the radical left by criminalizing doxing and requiring restitution for damaging memorials and monuments by rioters.”

    I wonder if the Left ever listens to what it says or extends its assertions to the logical endpoint.
    Hah.

    Critics of the new law say it will be abused by law enforcement to crack down on peaceful protests.

    “The problem with this bill is that the language is so overbroad and vague … that it captures anybody who is peacefully protesting at a protest that turns violent through no fault of their own,” Kara Gross, the legislative director at ACLU Florida told the South Flordia Sun Sentinal. “Those individuals who do not engage in any violent conduct under this bill can be arrested and charged with a third-degree felony and face up to five years in prison and loss of voting rights. The whole point of this is to instill fear in Floridians.”

    Not holding my breath until they release the Capitol “Insurrectionists” on exactly these grounds.

  12. “Mob rule is spreading. And the people in charge are simply waiting for an opposing mob to act. So they can crack down. ”

    And that, dear friends, is the whole strategy in a nut shell. Keep pushing the lawlessness until regular people (Read “white supremacists” and Trumpers) have had enough and start fighting back. Declare martial law, start the crackdown and the takeover of the USA is now complete. They are itching for a fight, so they can finally complete their agenda.

    The real question then becomes: where will most of the police and military line up? Will they take the view that those fighting back are as bad as antifa? Will they look at their new roles as “preserving the peace” as they arrest everyone not on the extreme left? We are entering dark times.

  13. The refusal to change venue, the premature payout to the Floyd family, the refusal to sequester, and the allowance of hundreds of prosecution exhibits dumped on the defense the night before on numerous nights, I’d say an appeal was already guaranteed.

    Waters’s incitement just adds variety.

  14. I wouldn’t dream of sullying these fine comment threads with anything untoward, but suffice to say that out there in the Deplorable Web today there are plenty of inflammatory statements referencing, nay caricaturing one Maxine Waters.

    Patience is wearing mighty thin.

  15. Oldflyer:

    You’ve illustrated how a system of enforced discipline / procedures *and* a culture of intolerance for slackness on the job can mitigate and to some degree overcome people’s inherited deficiencies. The Left destroyed the culture and tries to rule us with Law alone. Not a pretty sight.

    Don’t worry… the next version will be all-electric… none of this steam nonsense… and coded up by the lowest bidder in Hyderabad and the shooter will be high on carefully metered sex-change hormones. Chocks away!

  16. physicsguy-

    “The real question then becomes: where will most of the police and military line up? Will they take the view that those fighting back are as bad as antifa? ”

    I think that from my talks with others. Is that many will be horribly torn between loyalty and duty. And doing what they know is correct.

    My hope is that the recent pressure against police will backfire. The problem is that the armed forces are ramping up the ideological purge within their ranks. See the numerous articles the regarding the Biden administrations push for “equity” in the ranks. And the purging of so called “white supremacists” for anyone who does not tow the new administrations line.

    And when you start to realize that many police officers are simply armed forces personal with experience. This will eventually trickle into their ranks beyond the appointed cronies in many departments.

  21. Mythx:

    I think that perhaps CBS was worried we might have forgotten for a moment how vile and destructive they really are, and that we needed a reminder. So they provided one.

  22. The Chauvin trial is a test of our character as a people, and we are failing terribly at the trial court stage. The mistakes by the trial judge are numerous, and increasingly difficult to see as anything other than cravenness. The trial should never have been held in Minneapolis, the voir dire should have had far more upheld challenges for cause, and the jury should have been sequestered immediately upon selection and for the entire trial.

  24. Over at the Belmont Club, the remark was made wrt the Trump campaign that you have to multiply donations to the Trump campaign by the seriousness of the issue.
    People donating know they put themselves at some degree of risk, possibility of retaliation one way or another.
    So does a person’s $10 donation to Rittenhouse indicate forty dollars’ worth of determination among like-minded people?
    I’t’s “serious money”.

  25. Just in case one has—somehow—missed AOC’s sorry antics (or Pelosi’s or Smalwell’s or Schurmer’s or Omar’s, or Nadler’s or Newsome’s or Cuomo’s, or Tlaib’s or etc…), here’s the Democratic Party In a nutshell:
    https://dailycaller.com/2021/04/19/rep-maxine-waters-police-escort-rioters/
    H/T Instapundit

    They are still “The Resistance”…and they intend to remain “The Resistance” for as long as there’s anything left of the country to destroy.

    (IOW, “Palestinian Rules” now and forever….)

  26. I have had contempt for the judicial branch for a long time, this doesn’t add to much to that contempt. My contempt hit the peak with General Flynn kangaroo court.

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