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What’s Joe Manchin’s game? — 14 Comments

  1. Well, since Schumer has publicly encouraged Biden to do more with EOs I presume that he doesn’t need anything, because he doesn’t intend to do anything of substance. So long as Manchin has a D after his name he serves a purpose.
    Clearly, the legislative process is obsolete. That make it very convenient to be the Senate Majority Leader, or even a back bencher. No fuss, no bother. Enjoy the perks. Show your face on selected TV programs and express whatever opinions are most likely to support reelection. Hold interminable hearings, preferably televised, about minutia. Oh, and participate in phony impeachment trials of previous Presidents just for the entertainment value.
    Nice work if you can get it.

    Where did I go wrong?

  2. Always remember that political office is a stepping stone to riches for most politicians. Biden and Obama arrived at a time when corruption was tolerated in Washington in both parties but the Democrats revel in it. If Manchin should lose an election, there are fat lobbyist jobs available for him, especially as a Democrat. Even Toomey will no doubt show up with a K street office by a year from leaving office. Manchin’ds daughter is already a big wheel in Big Pharma.

    Gingrich stepped on his d**k by trying too soon to cash in as Speaker but most are smarter than he is.

  3. Watch Tester too. Montana became redder this year, and he was close to losing last time. I would love if my state got rid of that fat corpuscle in a few years.

  4. If Manchin was truly the centrist he claims to be, and has any genuine concern for the future of America, he would ‘pull a Jeffords’ and leave the his caucus. Like Jeffords, he wouldn’t have to formally switch parties, just become an independent and caucus with the GOP. Like Jeffords, his state is now strongly inclined towards the opposing party, bringing minimal risk if he wanted to run again in 2024 (when he’ll be 77). Or, like Jeffords, he could simply retire at that point, detested by the national Democrat party, but beloved and appreciated by West Virginians.

    In the alternative, Manchin could resign his seat, allowing Governor Justice to appoint a Republican and call a special election (which the GOP would almost certainly win). He would return to West Virginia a hero and could contemplate seeking the governorship again in 2024 when Justice is term limited.

    ….If he truly was a centrist and concerned about America’s future. I have my doubts. The Beltway corrupts; there are Georgetown cocktail parties to consider, lobbyists who are eager to please, and billions in pork to try to funnel to West Virginia contractors (like his illustrious predecessor so adeptly did for decades), after all.

  5. The dems are going to make it hard for red state dems too, how does Tester defend the green programs. MT is losing out on the Keystone pipe line, coal, gas, timber, and mining will take a hit. There is a lot of federal land that may close down to leasing. Billings area has three refineries alone and would lose big.

    I work at a small manufacturing company and we’re going to pay more for our plastics, rubber, and materials due to inflation and the rise in oil.

  6. “as well as a bill giving statehood to most of DC in order to increase Democrat votes in the Senate and give them more of a safe margin.”

    This keeps being brought up, so it’s probably important to point out that making DC a state would be a DEATH SENTENCE for Democrats in red states. Not just at the federal level, either. While a lot of the GOP/conservative leadership would be perfectly happy with perpetual minority status, the other 99.99% of Republicans would be angered beyond anything any of us has ever seen. Take the DC riot and multiply it by about 50.

    And even some Democrats would be disturbed because they’re not all hardcore leftists but the DC Congressional delegation would be.

    Which isn’t to say Democrats aren’t stupid enough to make DC a state. It was Harry Reid, after all, who opened the door for Trump and McConnell to transform the federal judiciary. But the ultimate result of DC statehood would likely NOT be perpetual Democratic dominance. It would more likely be either states flipping from blue to red or red states leaving the Union.

    Mike

  7. “Manchin’s defiance of the Democratic leadership has until now been fake and essentially theater. He votes against them when it doesn’t matter and his vote isn’t needed. When it is needed, he talks about defying them and then has some sort of last-minute change of heart and finally is “convinced” that principle dictates he vote with them”

    Add to neo’s perspective, the alternatives Ackler mentions @ 3:47 that are available to Manchin and there remains little doubt that Manchin is a deceitful little wolf in sheep’s clothing.

  8. Slightly off topic, but you said something about replacing senators with members of the other party. What would happen if Senator Leahy (D, VT) had to be replaced for health reasons? The governor of VT seems to be a far-left RINO. What kind of replacement would we be likely to get? Would we get another leftist RINO in the senate, or would he just appoint a Democrat?

  9. bof:

    By “replace,” I didn’t actually mean appointment. I meant they’d be defeated if they tried to run for re-election because the winner would be their opponent from the other party. Or, they would choose not to run again, and the candidate from the other party would win against whoever did run instead.

  10. When Republicans had a 3 or 4 vote edge in the Senate the Dem’s used the filibuster to stifle Republican legislation and the Roll Over Party hated it. Now that the ROP is the (de facto) minority in the Senate Dem’s are threatening to eliminate the filibuster and the ROP is against it. What goes around comes around.

    Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

  11. Manchin and Sinema are frauds. What kind of power can Schumer hold over them? Change their committee assignments? BFD. But since modern Dems are Bolshevik collectivists, they must fall into that category too.

    I am more and more impressed by Tulsi Gabbard. Yes, she is a Democrat, but she understands and honors the Constitution. I believe she is amenable to reason.

  12. In a parliamentary system, when the parties are 48 and 48, the party holding 4 rules, if it wants to.

    Be interesting to see Manchin’s behavior, possibly in concert with Sinema or someone like, shows the power of the “4”.

  13. You mentioned the possibility, nearly certain, of DC becoming a state, if/when the Manchin safety net falls. I have wondered, and haven’t noticed anyone else wondering, why the area wouldn’t just be absorbed into Virginia or Maryland which seems natural to me. Of course the official federal buildings would be “neutral” or somehow maintain a special status, much like embassies abroad. What am I missing here?

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