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How did this professor get to hoping that Trump supporters die before the election? — 51 Comments

1. The piled higher and deeper syndrome seems strong in her. The dark side claims another.

2. Jason Hill, a black and gay immigrant from Jamaica who teaches philosophy at Depaul, has argued that our universities are destroying this republic, and anyone who doubts the truth of this assertion has only to read the recently-published book by John Ellis (The Breakdown of Higher Education) to accept, however reluctantly, the truth of Professor Hill’s claim. Prof. Ellis, who taught German literature for many years at UC Santa Cruz, provides irrefutable evidence of the corruption of our system of higher (mis)education and believes that the only (slim) possibility of improving the situation lies in radically defunding these cancers on the body politic.

3. The university system is the cloaca of the body politic.

4. I would add an Eighth, Neo. She’s in West Virginia: Trump’s number one state (68%) in 2016. I’m sure the faculty at Marshall are overwhelmingly left-wing, but the students likely are not. Marshall is a public university, which means most of her students are likely from West Virginia originally. Sure, the 18-22 crowd skews left-wing, but in West Virginia, even this demographic is likely majority (or at least plurality) right-leaning.

   So yes, what an astonishing bubble she lives in!

5. Ackler,
   She probably took a drive off campus and saw dozens of Trump signs.

6. While my immediate reaction would be to scream and shout at her, a more measured reaction would be to play the Alinsky game: use the prog rules against her.

   A professor who wishes someone dead is creating an unsafe environment for many of her students. Student complaints about an unsafe environment are going to be listened to in the current univ environment.

   She will keep tenure, but may well be removed from the classroom. OTOH, a lot of profs find the classroom part of their jobs to be far less interesting than the research part, so this might be what the prof wants.

   As Ackler points out, wishing Trump supporters dead in WVa is not a politic move. My prediction is that one consequence of this prof mouthing off will be the leg reducing funding for the U. Like they say, don’t bite the hand that feeds you.

7. Nobody with any sense would consider this person to have been normal in the past, notwithstanding her self-revealed and possibly genuine epiphany.
   She has been a nutcase of some kind for years. The U tolerated her. How many other nutcases has the U tolerated and is tolerating, a future tuition payer might be asking. Obviously they tolerate nutcases. If they have the tolerance for this nutcase, why would they not for others?

8. The reference to “Rwanda level” hatred is chilling. My Thai neighbor is considering buying a gun. We’ve got guns and ammo.

   I’m opposed to people being fired for posts on their private blogs, but this kind of thing in a class setting is totally unacceptable.

9. It’s obvious that Mosher is a product of low academic standards. Probably doesn’t know a thing about biology.

10. She’s not tenured, but evidently tenure-track. Title is ‘assistant professor’. I’m guessing she’s had her share of career disappointments. She is 53 years old, completed her dissertation 17 years ago, and evidently arrived at Marshall about three years ago. She was apparently at Youngstown State in Ohio for a half-dozen years or so and then at the Stroud Water Research Center outside of Philadelphia. I doubt many faculty are denied tenure at Youngstown State, so I’m guessing there’s a story there (unless she was on renewable contracts). She’s published a fair amount, which I would bet is atypical at a low-rent teaching institution like Youngstown. (Her book is microbiology). Interestingly, she was born and bred in the area, growing up in small towns south of Youngstown (where her mother and father still live); Marshall’s about a 4 hour drive from her hone town. She put in some time at the University of Akron as an undergraduate (like a lot of us, she wasn’t a fat slob in 1987). Doesn’t appear to have ever married. What’s disconcerting is that you can imagine the people ‘you can’t talk sense to’, the people she wants dead, are family members.

11. CDC head Dr. Redfield: “Redfield said if Americans wore face masks for several weeks, ‘we would bring this pandemic under control, because there is scientific evidence they work and they are our “best defense.’

    ‘I might even go so far as to say that this face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against COVID than when I take a COVID vaccine, because it may be 70%. And if I don’t get an immune response, the vaccine is not going to protect me,’ Redfield said. ‘This face mask will.'”

    Breathtaking, no? Where has the information about masks being better than a vaccine come from? We are still getting mixed messages from the “experts.” What do we do? Well, we don’t wish death on people we disagree with politically. How does that help? The professor has bad TDS, which in its own way is quite damaging to the battle against the virus, IMO. But so are the mixed messages from on high.

    At this point we are still groping our way through this pandemic. My course is plain to me, but only because I have tried to figure out the best way to defend myself against the virus. And I admit it could be wrong. If I get the virus, I’m probably a dead man. For that reason I wash my hands compulsively, wear a mask when in public, avoid going into public anymore than absolutely necessary, maintain six feet from others when in public, and take a cocktail of Vitamin C, D, Zinc, & Quercetin. I’m lucky, I don’t need to go to work or run a business. If others don’t take the same precautions, that’s their choice.

    It used to be a free country. But the progs want universal commands from on high. Why? I guess it gives them a sense of security to have “expert” guidance, It also gives them a sense of moral superiority over those who don’t conform. I wonder how many progs who own small businesses ruined by the lockdowns are still on board with the program?

12. It’s obvious that Mosher is a product of low academic standards. Probably doesn’t know a thing about biology.

    Nope, GoogleScholar pulls up 20 scholarly articles published since 2002.

13. “the spark for her wishing death on Trump supporters had to do with COVID and the idea that there should be no inside get-togethers of large groups”

    Last I checked, the death rate among infectees is about a half of a percent.
    But it’s LOTS less if you are not old, obese or diabetic.

    Her ire is not even rational.

14. Remember back before the Left thought they could use Covid against Trump, there was a meme that Covid was “Boomer removal” and hence perhaps a good thing?

    https://theprint.in/opinion/pov/covid-19-a-boomer-remover-why-millennials-are-angry-and-done-with-older-generation/381223/

15. Art Deco

    Interestingly, she was born and bred in the area, growing up in small towns south of Youngstown (where her mother and father still live)…. What’s disconcerting is that you can imagine the people ‘you can’t talk sense to’, the people she wants dead, are family members.

    She is from Salem, Ohio (from her bio @ Oak Ridge labs). Salem is located in Columbiana County. Wiki tells us that Columbiana County went for Trump by a 41.4% margin. So, there is a big disconnect there. One would think that even if she disagreed with the “folks” from her home area, she wouldn’t wish them dead.

16. People who are so pro-mask puzzle me. If indeed, the masks are so effective, then if you (they) wear one then they are protected. If I choose not to, then I’m vulnerable, may contract the disease and even die. My choice, my responsibility. If my not wearing a mask affects their vulnerability, then is their mask really effective? So – especially if someone has the same opinions as she has – why should they care if I choose not to wear a mask? I’m just one of the “stupid” ones they want to eliminate anyway.

17. SueK: I’ve seen reasoning that in aggregate the mask protects others more than the person wearing the mask. By that reasoning mask wearers would feel justified in being concerned about non-mask wearers.

    I remain skeptical. Even if that were true in theory, I wonder how large an effect it is and how well it works in practice. People don’t wear masks like the surgeon who just scrubbed up to crack open someone’s chest.

    Today I saw a guy take off his mask and drop it onto the cafe table and the inside of it was snot-green. I don’t want to think about the viral load he was distributing every time he touched his mask then touched a public surface.

18. How? Rachel Maddow, and her ilk.

19. In projecting her own unreason onto the right, she reveals her own fanaticism. A fanaticism that is courting a terrible reckoning.

    “Student complaints about an unsafe environment are going to be listened to in the current univ environment.” Gringo

    If only that were true. Currently, nearly all administrators are either fully leftist themselves or too intimidated to resist leftists. They only ‘listen’ to PC complaints.

20. Yes, SueK, the story repeated over and over by the pro maskers is that
    1) yes, masks are porous compared the virus and do not significantly protect you BUT
    2) if you cough or breathe heavily the mask significantly reduces how far your virus spreads (if you are infected)
    See?
    No mask equals selfish and killing others.

21. Geoffrey Brittain:
    If only that were true. Currently, nearly all administrators are either fully leftist themselves or too intimidated to resist leftists. They only ‘listen’ to PC complaints.

    But isn’t “unsafe environment” a typical PC complaint? As such, aren’t administrators required to respond?

22. Watching this wretched, illiberal, leftist woman wish death upon her countrymen for holding political allegiances and social views different to her own brings to mind one of the most valuable lessons of Graham Greene’s monumental novel, “The Power and The Glory”.

    The novel’s hero, “The ‘Whisky Priest”, remains behind in a province of Mexico that has outlawed Catholicism and imposed the death penalty for the crimes of being or harboring a priest. He lives on the run, alone in the jungles and backwaters for almost a decade, emerging occasionally to offer the mass and other sacraments to the peasants.

    Despite the deathly danger to them if he is reported in their villages and the rewards offered for betraying him, no-one does: even though many of them are far from sympathetic to the church and all are in dire need of the reward money.

    None of the hundreds of simple people who meet or see him or just learn of his presence in their villages over all those years condemn him to the certain death that would follow his capture because they intuit that to do so would be an abnegation of their humanity and unworthy of them as human beings.

    I saw the same occasionally in my professional practice among some of the most outwardly unprepossessing people I’ve ever met. Knowing that they could safely tell a lie, or just gild the lily, without being caught out and thereby win their case or increase the payout they would receive, they refused. They simply knew it would be unworthy of them and a lie would be an unworthy thing to visit on fellow human beings. They were content to just make their case and claim only what was due to them. Many of these people were of low IQ and, frankly, vulgar in their manners and none were Uni professors, but they were admirable human beings.

    How different to the modern Left who instinctively now de-humanise anyone simply for disagreeing with them. A lot of factors have combined to bring this vast change about but one thing seems clear to me: no-one can de-humanise a fellow human being and call for their death or punishment for holding a different opinion on the issues of the day who has a healthy self-respect. It is clearly lacking in so many of our political/ideological opponents. This is why so many of their women are content to be obese and why their males are so frequently men without chests.

23. CDC head Redfield: “‘I might even go so far as to say that this face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against COVID than when I take a COVID vaccine, because it may be 70%. And if I don’t get an immune response, the vaccine is not going to protect me. This face mask will.’”

    This is a pretty strange statement…Redfield’s own agency has described the key benefit of masks thusly: “Masks may help prevent people who have COVID-19 from spreading the virus to others”…ie, protecting others from the wearer. There is some benefit to the wearer, but the main benefit runs the other way.

    Here’s some data from UCSF on effectiveness of mask-wearing; again, the primary emphasis is on protecting others from the wearer:

    https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

24. still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

    So, the evidence is intuitive, observational, and retrospective.

    The science also shows that masks do not block aerosols, have limited utility to control droplets, and have only specialized value to control contact (e.g. fecal) spread. It’s interesting to note that spikes have occurred days and weeks following mask mandates. That jurisdictions reach suppression before or miss after restrictive mandates are enforced. That the Sars-Cov-2 virus spreads in hot, humid areas, implies that its primary transmission mode is contact. Same on the cruise ship. Same in construction sites. Same in the Planned Parent facilities of NY, Seattle, etc. The only effective methods to avoid infection are, depending on symptomatic or asymptomatic conditions, physical distancing, avoiding contact (e.g. soap and water), and a “disinfectant” or border guard (e.g. HCQ) that controls entry into cells and complements immune functions.

25. Scipio Australianus,
    ‘Many of these people were of low IQ and, frankly, vulgar in their manners and none were Uni professors, but they were admirable human beings.’

    Human beings who had internalized the ninth commandment.
    ‘Thou shalt not bear false witness.’
    Integrity is not limited to the intelligent and the ‘cultured’, thank God!

    ‘A highway shall be there, a straight road
    And it shall be called the way of Holiness
    The evil shall not pass over it,
    But it shall be for others.
    Whosoever walks the road, even if he be a fool,
    Shall not go astray.’ Isaiah 35:8

26. J.J —

    I wonder how many progs who own small businesses ruined by the lockdowns are still on board with the program?

    I expect they deflect by blaming it all on Trump, the catch-all Satan of the Progressive religion.

27. @Molly Brown: I was once an over educated fool, but, through Grace, lived long enough to become older and wiser. “I once was blind, but now I see”. I was also once a college professor and in reading Jennifer Mosher’s tale of woe it was obvious to me that I might have fallen into such a trap in my salad days. All I can say in my defence is that I was somewhat aware that my opposition to Nixon was largely my visceral dislike for the man. I can see now that given the right circumstances I could have undone myself as thoroughly as Jennifer Mosher. So I hope she comes to see that she really erred and appreciate that her words were deeply wrong – not just inappropriate or unfortunate. Realistically, I know most human beings and have little or no capacity for self reflection when they ‘over do’ it. Not immediately. Of course many people feel exactly as she does – are any of us here surprised? Civilisational impasse and possible collapse is terrifying. While we on the right have such fears too, we have have been forced by the cultural climate to think through why, and keep silent in many circumstances – not just well..let it all hang out.

28. People love to judge others. People love to feel superior to others. It seems intrinsic to the Human condition. This need to judge is usually expressed/reflected through our theologies, philosophies, and ideologies.

    Traditional ways of thinking, customs, and standards have the advantage of, over hundreds and even thousands of years, learning how to accommodate this need to judge and how to ameliorate its most destructive and vicious impact. But people like this clump of a woman have discarded all those old ways of thinking.

    They fantasize that doing so elevates them above the racist, sexist, generations who came before them. What they’ve really done is strip themselves of any intelligent way to regulate their own impulses or behavior.

    Look at the “Flight 93” conservatives in 2016. They believed the future of the U.S. was in peril but their reaction was to work within the system and vote for Trump. Compare that to the liberal reaction to the death of RBG. Their response is not to act within the system, like offering Trump and the GOP something they want in exchange for a more moderate Court pick. No, their reaction is to threaten personal and structural violence if Trump and the GOP simply follow the rules and take advantage of a situation that was actually created by liberals and Democrats.

    Mike

29. David Foster, thanks for the link to the UCSF essay. I’ve seen a couple of studies that indicate differently. In one example I saw the experimenter breathed in from a vape tube, put on the mask, and exhaled. The cloud of vape smoke went everywhere. The mask seemed to have little ability to slow the smoke. I realize that the volume of inhaled vaping smoke is greater than an average breath, but you would hope that the mask provided more of an obstacle than it does in this demo.

    Then there’s this experiment. A subject breathes on a a culture platelet with no mask, a cloth mask, and then a surgical mask. The masks stop most of the bacteria and virus from getting on the culture platelets with the surgical mask being better than the cloth mask. This seems pretty convincing, but I’m not an infectious disease expert and this may not be rigorous enough.
    https://www.wthr.com/article/news/investigations/13-investigates/do-

    Well, masks are cheap and easily available, but I’m still hoping for a vaccine or a successful treatment protocol.

30. @ Gringo: One wouldn’t believe the amount of bitterness liberal/leftie people have for those and the area they grew up in if it wasn’t liberal/leftie like them i.e. suburbanites, people from small towns. There’s much condescension from fellow liberals/lefties. “Oh I feel sorry you.” If they do move away they’ll only return for the holidays, albeit a day – maybe two, reluctantly, then it’s off back to their urban oasis. It’s self-loathing and shame were maybe therapy can help.

31. Most discussions about mask-wearing in public ignore the concept of minimal infectious dose. We are surrounded by pathogens at all times. At relatively low levels–when they are below the infectious dose–they have no impact. Our immune systems take care of them. An infectous disease doc reminded me that a little salmonella in a peanut butter sandwich is very different from a large amount. I’m not saying anything people in this forum don’t know, just pointing out that that biological fact of minimal infectious dose has been forgotten. Perhaps it’s from fear and tunnel-vision, but it seems that a medieval black-and-white world of pure vs tainted, clean vs contaminated and good vs bad has returned.

32. But what is she against? Is she upset that Blacks, Hispanics and other minorities are doing better economically under Trump than under his Dem predecessors? Or that peace is closer in the Middle East and the former Yugoslavia?

33. I have news for you. I’ve been in South Carolina for 17 of the last 24 days. In the third largest metro area (Greenville-Spartanburg)

    If there isn’t a massive outbreak of Covid in the next week or so, the entire mask claim is bullshit. There are more people not wearing masks than wearing them, and many who do only give them “lip service” (ar-ar), and wear them places where they have to by immediate requirement (note: public employees — restaurants, hotels, etc., are not included in the above)… they are usually wearing them into an “official mask” place long enough to see that others are ignoring the mandate, and then taking them off.

    Masks are a placebo, nothing else. And an annoying one, at that, especially if you wear glasses.

34. As for the deranged:

    I will pray for them to be healed of their hate. I will pray for them to “see the light” of Jesus.

    I will pity them – but, also, keep my distance. And, if they spew their hate in certain places (schools, at their public jobs), I will act.

35. She learned it from life in the H8R hive

36. In other words, a typical college professor.

    You think I exaggerate. Au contraire.

37. …Mosher says “I’ve become the type of person where I hope they all get it and die.” That indicates that her conversion to wishing death on opponents is fairly recent, and that she’s not exactly proud of it and didn’t used to be that “type of person.” She doesn’t explain when she made the transition, but my guess is that it might have been Election Night 2016…
    –neo

    Since I walk the cult beat, I’ve been following the NXIVM case. NXIVM (pronounced NEX-ium) started as a self-improvement programs like Landmark or NLP (and borrows from both) but developed an inner BDSM cult in which many of the high-level women became slaves, ultimately to the cult leader, and were branded with the leaders initials!

    Some whistleblowers came forth and the leader will be sentenced next month for 15 years to life.

    But the weird thing is that sex cult part started from Hillary’s defeat in 2016. One of the women decided NXIVM needed a special program to empower women.

    I’ve read about a lot of strange cults but this one took me by surprise. HBO has a current series on NXIVM called “The Vow.”

38. huxley, huh – so that’s what that was about! I saw the acronym (I assume it was an acronym) floating around in the news and there was even a mention or two in the local papers around here. Has it been stamped out?

39. MBunge on September 20, 2020 at 12:12 pm said:
    People love to judge others. People love to feel superior to others. It seems intrinsic to the Human condition. This need to judge is usually expressed/reflected through our theologies, philosophies, and ideologies.
    * * *
    Which is one reason why people have been cautioned against this innate behavior from pretty much The Beginning:
    My Search auto-fills pretty much cover the territory without having to cite actual chapter and verse –

    judge not …

    judge not lest ye be judged
    judge not lest you be judged scripture
    judge nothing before time
    judge not says the lord
    judge not bob marley
    judge nothing before time kjv
    judge not by appearance kjv

    — besides, this professor would not pay attention to anything coming out of the Bible anyway.
    It’s pretty clear that the ideology of the Left is the exact opposite of the Theology of Judeo-Christian believers.

40. PS I agree with the rest of Mike’s comment, especially the part about how the Republicans work within the system and the Democrats destroy it.

    They fantasize that doing so elevates them above the racist, sexist, generations who came before them. What they’ve really done is strip themselves of any intelligent way to regulate their own impulses or behavior.
    …
    Their response is not to act within the system, like offering Trump and the GOP something they want in exchange for a more moderate Court pick.

    Although he cites the normal political log-rolling tradition, which has been a useful and practical way of tempering party disputes since before the Constitution, I don’t think that it would work in this particular case: the Supreme Court seats are too hot a commodity to negotiate on.

    See again the comment by R C on the “balance” of the Court:
    https://www.thenewneo.com/2020/09/19/the-death-of-ginsburg-chaos/#comment-2516031

41. Kevin on September 21, 2020 at 3:08 am said:
    But what is she against? Is she upset that Blacks, Hispanics and other minorities are doing better economically under Trump than under his Dem predecessors? Or that peace is closer in the Middle East and the former Yugoslavia?
    * * *
    Well, yes.
    If minorities make any real social or economic gains, the Left loses its shield and the Progressives lose their meal tickets.
    If Peace breaks out anywhere in the world, ditto, but add the NeverTrumpers dependent on the military-industrial complex largesse.

42. Nicholas Bretagna on September 21, 2020 at 4:56 am said:
    … they are usually wearing them into an “official mask” place long enough to see that others are ignoring the mandate, and then taking them off.

    Masks are a placebo, nothing else. And an annoying one, at that, especially if you wear glasses.
    * * *
    Point the second: since I “did” my cataracts about a decade ago, I no longer have that problem, but AesopSpouse complains of it mightily.
    Point the first: there is a new social dance of wearing a mask, or carrying it, into a personal interaction and determining whether you will both be ON or OFF.

    John Maguire: thanks for reminding us of the minimal infectious dose situation; that’s one of the reasons I do wear a mask in public when it is warranted.

43. Lorenz Gude on September 20, 2020 at 4:21 am said:
    …All I can say in my defence is that I was somewhat aware that my opposition to Nixon was largely my visceral dislike for the man.
    * * *
    I have always thought that was one of the main reasons Republicans in general finally got on-board with Nixon’s impeachment; I suspect that quite a few who voted for him never really liked him – they just liked the alternatives less, especially in his second election.*
    However, it was the rising tide of evidence starting in 1972 that finally sank his boat in 1974.**

    I was a senior in college and followed the news more that last year than any before or since (until 2007, and my discovery of Blogs), and I am still personally convinced that the nascent distaste on the Right metastasized after the tapes were revealed: not necessarily because of the break-in (which was politically pretty tame) and cover-up (although that did a lot of damage), but because of his cussin’ and comments revealing that his sainted Quaker mien was a cynical pose.***

    Since the right’s “Moral Majority” knew before the 2016 election what they were getting with Trump, that kind of revelation just isn’t a factor anymore, and Nixon’s hypocrisy may have actually inoculated GOP voters — once made so painfully aware that there really aren’t any angels in the White House, we quit looking for them.

    *Note the time frame here, in 1968.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/watergate/articles/110768-1.htm

    Nixon’s Illinois victory, which emerged more than 15 hours after the voting ended in Tuesday’s election, prevented third-party candidate George C. Wallace from using his 15 electoral votes to determine the choice of the 37th President and, alternatively, kept the contest from going to the House of Representatives for the first time since 1824.

    Taking note of the serious division reflected in their near-even split of the popular vote, both Humphrey and Nixon referred in their post-election statements to the overriding need for national unity.

    (The popular vote was 43.4% Nixon to 42.7% Humphrey, although the Electoral College count was 301 to 191 — it’s not how many vote for you, but where they are that counts.)

    In 1972, the Nixon landslide was more of a roaring avalanche that buried the Democrats. I was one of those naive college kids who voted for McGovern, without really understanding his ideology, because my Mother always told me that Nixon was a crook. That was my first presidential election, and my last vote for the Democrat candidate.

    Electoral vote 520 to 17
    States carried 49 to 1 + DC
    Popular vote 47,168,710 to 29,173,222
    Percentage 60.7% to 37.5%

    **Analysis of Nixon’s decline in popularity as the investigation proceeded, as part of a post on the Trump impeachment.
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/it-took-a-long-time-for-republicans-to-abandon-nixon/
    “It wasn’t a single act that moved them — it was the pattern of corruption by the president”
    (Caveat: the post presents data conflicting with my impression of the voters’ view, but you can dislike a man and still support him for political reasons. Per the post, Congressional and party leaders turned against Nixon when the tapes revealed that he had lied directly to THEM.)

    Even though most Americans did eventually support removing Nixon from office, Republican voters were mostly not part of that consensus. Days before he resigned, a Gallup poll found that only 31 percent of Republicans thought Nixon should no longer be president. And some of those supporters deeply resented their representatives for their role in ousting Nixon, which may even have contributed to the Democratic landslide in the 1974 midterm elections.

    Voting in your sworn enemies because you dislike some of your own party is like beheading your generals in the middle of a war: not usually the smart way to go.
    However, at the time, the Democrats and Republicans were supposedly not separated by quite so vast an ideological and psychological chasm.
    Given what we now know about the Leftists’ agenda and the Gramscian march, I should put that as “supposedly” — we just didn’t know how bad it would be when they decided they could take the masks off.

    ***Retrospective following the release of an oral history in 2013.
    https://carolinapublicpress.org/16541/billy-graham-absolutely-crushed-by-richard-nixons-profanity-in-white-house-recordings/

    Bonus:
    This is an almost charming recording of Nixon watching football with his daughter in 1972, but released much later.
    Stick with it for her reaction at the end.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYCo0RU_BNo

44. Addendum – this is how you get around to wishing people you don’t know will die for having the wrong political opinions.
    https://medium.com/@guinanleo/today-i-gave-my-dad-a-choice-trump-or-his-grandkids-and-his-son-b2f971ed39f9

    I wrote earlier about trying to express my reasons to my dad in a calm and intellectual manner. I actually thought I had been calm and well-reasoned. I thought I might even be making progress.
    Today I found out he put a Trump sign in his yard.
    I got pissed. Really pissed. And I sent him and my mom a text message. Hands shaking, tears in eyes. This is what it said:

    Due to the signs in the yard, the kids and I will not be down. The current occupant of the White House is preaching hate and violence, endangering the lives and safety of many of my friends. This is not acceptable to me at all. There is a complete disregard for women, minorities, science, ethics, and morality. Please consider if you support Trump that much. Because I hate him that much. I wanted to be upfront and honest about my feelings.

    And then I went for a walk to calm down. And the more I thought about it, the more I agreed with the message. At this point, it is not acceptable to me. You can vote for whom you wish. But I can choose who I surround myself with. I love my dad, but I can’t be around him until he understands how vital I believe this election to be and what is truly at stake. It is not easy. But it was necessary. Now to see what fallout occurs.

    These people are insane.
    I am very concerned about the grandkids.

45. Once you go off the rails intellectually, then anything–no matter how ridiculous or insane– becomes both possible and “normal.”

    See, for instance, this story, about how the Seattle city government has hired former pimp Andre Taylor, aka Gorgeous Grey, to be their “street Czar” urban liaison, who has an office in the Seattle’s Municipal Tower, and who is going to be paid $150,000 per year to come up with “alternatives to policing.”

    P.S.–By way of comparison, the aveage cop salary in Seattle is $67, 000 per year.

    See https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/seattle-paying-former-pimp-gorgeous-dre-150000-year-find-alternatives-policing/

46. Anyone who has a good set of antennae–and the will, the money, and the circumstances/ability to do so–should have already or be about to, flee these Democrat run cities, whose rule has, in effect, been turned over to the mob.

    Lots of more sane, safer, and more peaceful States and cities to live in, and to run a business in are out there

    P.S.–Presuming that a somewhat sane administration–one that does actually care (or, at least, acts like it does) about it’s citizenry, does eventually take over in these cities, does anyone imagine that any of these cities can really “come back” anytime soon?

47. See, for instance, this story, about how the Seattle city government has hired former pimp Andre Taylor, aka Gorgeous Grey, to be their “street Czar” urban liaison, who has an office in the Seattle’s Municipal Tower, and who is going to be paid $150,000 per year to come up with “alternatives to policing.”

    If it were New York, you’d guess he was a cousin of Chirlaine McCray. I’m betting there’s some sort of connection like that.

48. Chump change in Seattle.

    In the Big Apple there is still apparently no definitive accounting of the $850 million–$1.25 billion dollars in NYC funds it seems was allocated over the last several years to mental health organization, THRIVENYC, run by Mayor DeBlasio’s wife, Chirlaine McCray, who reportedly has a personal staff of 14, which costs $2 million dollars per year.

49. I don’t think she should be fired. However, her tenure status should revoked and that any future outbursts will result in her termination. Note: I used the word “outbursts”, but the university should clearly spell out what would consitute an outburst and ALL university employees should also be informed.

50. AesopFan: That “Today I Gave My Dad A Choice: Trump or His Grandkids and His Son” story was quite sad. Interesting how badly the writer got ratio’d. Almost no support for his position at all plus not surprisingly, a fair amount of abuse.

    However, on a different page he explained it was all a cunning plan to tap readers’ emotions and stimulate abuse and thereby prove the degradation of Trump voters (and I guess a few Democrats who didn’t agree he should prevent his children from seeing their grandparents either).
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    The current occupant of the White House is preaching hate and violence, endangering the lives and safety of many of my friends.

    This is really the point of all of this. I wanted to experience some of what I had seen others going through. And I have.

    https://medium.com/@guinanleo/into-the-belly-of-the-beast-5ccab6cc4c00
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    He’s a peach.

51. huxley – that just made my opinion of the guy go lower, which hardly seemed possible.

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