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  1. Now that is a clever political move. Smartly done, Israel.

    (Seen your other post, Neo. It is good. I just haven’t had a moment to comment on it yet.)

  2. So Israel created Sonaliland and exported all their unwanted Somalis to Minnesoata. Everystein singleberg timeowitz.

  3. The doomsayers are claiming this will “ratchet up tensions” in the region, yada yada yada. I suppose it could have the effect of putting Somaliland in the crosshairs of fanatics, to whom any friend of Israel is an enemy. So far, Trump has not been supportive, but I doubt he’s given it a lot of thought.

  4. Purportedly, Somalis fled Somalia to get away from violence, oppression, lack of freedom (i.e., the usual list of leftist excuses). Somaliland, by comparison, seems rather sane. Israel’s recognition codifies this impression.

    So let’s revoke our Somalis’ refugee status and send them to Somaliland. Sounds reasonable to me. Not our problem if it’s not an exact fit.

  5. Why ruin Somaliland? Let the Somalis get their act together and then the Somalilanders can decide if the want to take them into Somaliland.

    Our congrescritter Illan Omar was a Somali not a Somalilander. She is reputed as having allegiance to Somalia not to the USA.

  6. I’ve read, but can’t offhand think of where, that Somaliland is run by a different tribe than Omar’s, in Somalia. Omar and her Minnesota clan would probably not fit into Somaliland.

  7. Kate…I’ve heard that’s why the Somali Pirate didn’t get elected Mayor…wrong tribe so the other tribe voted for Frey.

  8. I’m not surprised at the separation. Somaliland is the former British Protectorate, while Somalia is the former Italian Protectorate.

  9. Good point, Alan Colbo. And yes, John Guilfoyle, that’s what I remember reading. Clan matters even in Minneapolis-St. Paul.

  10. “Clan matters even in Minneapolis-St. Paul.”

    Which is part of the reason why importing large numbers of folks who live & die by tribe, clan & family is a crappy idea…as if the soil of the USA suddenly makes us a nation.

  11. I’m skeptical of the significance of Israel’s recognition of Somaliland as an independent state. While I get the point that Somaliland has lived up to the Montevideo criteria, is it not possible that Israel is merely extending this recognition in order to have Somaliland onside as a sort of tactical ally to serve Israeli interests, not on general principle?

    Interesting, though, that Somaliland has its own currency, capital, passports, and so on.

  12. I point out that Palestine is an imaginary country, there has never been a country called Palestine so if you can recognize an imaginary country what is the problem with recognizing Somaliland?

  13. Smart move by Israel, for the strong contrast between Somaliland & Palestine.
    Where is it? I love maps.
    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/ws/660/cpsprodpb/A974/production/_129508334_bbcm_somalia_country_profile_map_260423_edit.png.webp

    The Northern third next to Djibouti & Ethiopia with, previously unknown to me Puntland third and their disputed border on the North & East (Indian Ocean). Above the larger South Somalia, with Mogadishu, also bordering Kenya.

    My Slovak professor wife’s college has multiple Health Centers in Kenya, where we visited in September. Lots of armed security, partly because of armed raids from Somalia. We went to a few Catholic Churches & masses, but also saw large numbers of new-ish mosques, especially on the coast above Mombasa. (Where Roland found Van Owen drinkin’ gin, Roland the headless Thompson gunner).

    Africa & the Middle East would be better off with more, small, tribal-nation states with a strong majority tribe. Like hundreds or thousands of Swiss cantons.

    Maybe Trump will recognize Somaliland in exchange for opening an asylum center or 10.

  14. Thanks for the better map, Tom Grey. So “Puntland” is some sort of disputed area to the east of Somaliland, contrary to previous maps I saw showing that entire area belonging to Somaliland.

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