“Worse than Watergate” doesn’t even begin to cover it
We can’t really blame it on Biden; certainly not totally, because who knows how much input he had into so many things that occurred during his presidency? But it was indeed his presidency during which the apparatus of the federal government was unleashed on the opposing party. Big time:
More than 160 Republicans, including current Trump administration officials, may have been investigated by the FBI under former President Joe Biden, as part of the bureau’s sweeping Arctic Frost probe, documents show.
White House Deputy Chief of Staff Dan Scavino, US Pardon Attorney Ed Martin and White House trade adviser Peter Navarro are among the prominent GOP figures named in FBI files released by the House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday, detailing the massive scope of the Biden-era Justice Department’s investigation into allegations of 2020 election interference.
“What we’ve learned is it was much broader, much more expansive, than we ever thought,” House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan told Fox News host Sean Hannity.
The idea on the right that the 2020 election wasn’t valid, as well as the J6 outburst in relation to it, were the gifts that kept on giving for the Democrats. Their surprise at Trump’s victory must have been immense, because I don’t think they thought it possible that any of their investigative shenanigans would ever be revealed.
Previously released Arctic Frost documents showed more than 90 conservative groups, including Charlie Kirk’s Turning Point USA nonprofit, were targeted in the probe.
Smith also received metadata from the phones of eight Republican senators and a GOP House member that would have allowed the special counsel to see who they called or texted as part of the Arctic Frost investigation.
The idea is to have Jack Smith give closed-door testimony to the House Judiciary Committee. He wants it to be public.
No matter what ends up being revealed, it’s not at all clear what the remedy would be.
In other news, Jonathan Turley opines on Trump’s appeal of the criminal “hush money” case:
President Trump has filed the appeal in his criminal case. Many of us criticized the case as based on a legally unfounded legal theory tried before a highly biased judge. The brief is a devastating litany of errors ignored by a prosecutor and court hellbent on conviction…
That refers to this case, which had most Democrats gleefully intoning that Trump’s a convicted felon.
The scum also rises.
–Hunter S. Thompson
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It’s amazing the amount of dodgy Democrat stuff which keeps coming out.
Let me stick my neck way out there and predict that not one person, NOBODY, will be punished for their involvement in the Arctic Frost scandal.
Congress will have hearings, issue a report a few thousand pages long and that will be it. And, oh yeah, the media will totally ignore the hearing and the final report.
Maybe this time Congress should order the FBI and DOJ to conduct a criminal investigation of those involved in lieu of a waste-of-time congressional hearing.
It seems well-proven that the Democratic party has been seized by anti-democratic forces, and this bodes ill for America’s future.
I guess perhaps I’m too hard – No, no I’m not, but the traditional punishment for treason – execution, multiple in this era – is one possible cure.
Related:
The party of NON-STOP, MANUFACTURED CRISIS:
‘”Democrats Are Panicking”; Larry Klayman Warns They Realize “The Only Way To Take Control Of A Society Is To Destabilize It”’—
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/democrats-are-panicking-larry-klayman-warns-they-realize-only-way-take-control-society
Compared to what was going on for the last eight years, Watergate was a total nothing burger.
1. Remember those GooGoo groups so prominent ca. 1977? You know, Common Cause, the League of Women Voters, the American Civil Liberties Union..? Any commentary from this crew?
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2. George Will has recently rolled out one of his odd little cuts ‘watery caesarism’ and accused DJT of ‘anti-constitutional immodesty’. George offer ay remarks?
I’d say we have a horse race. In the past, the absolute control over Progressive media messaging would keep a story like this buried and below the radar, and any flare-ups by the small fraction of public advocates could be managed.
But…. now ‘X’ is a free space, uncensored. Now CBS News division has been put under Bari Weiss’ control. Now we have other oligarchs taking an interest in media ownership. Could be interesting to see a story such as this being actively covered in an adversarial fashion, no? We shall see.
JohnTyler on October 29, 2025 at 5:59 pm:
“Let me stick my neck way out …
Maybe this time Congress should order the FBI and DOJ to conduct a criminal investigation of those involved in lieu of a waste-of-time congressional hearing.”
Not positive, but I suspect that for Congress to pass such an explicit law would run afoul of being an unconstitutional bill of attainder. But then again, if the judiciary muddy things with Article III interference of Article II enforcements, maybe we should put that theory to a test.
DT on October 29, 2025 at 7:11 pm:
“I guess perhaps I’m too hard – No, no I’m not, but the traditional punishment for treason – execution, multiple in this era – is one possible cure.” First, the constitutional definition of treason is probably not officially being met in too many cases here, in spite of our emotional “common sense” desires for severe punishment meted to some of these perpetrators. Second, if they (some at least) believe they are supporting “democracy” and the government rather than conducting war against it, can that really be defined as treason under the constitution?
Chuck on October 29, 2025 at 8:22 pm:
“Compared to what was going on for the last eight years, Watergate was a total nothing burger.”
I don’t know any details, but I recently learned that Nathan Pinkoski will have an article in the next issue of the Claremont Review of Books (CRB – probably Vol. XXV, Number 4, Fall 2025 issue) exploring the idea that Watergate was an even more severe or deeper coup than we have been led to normally believe.
Aggie on October 29, 2025 at 10:33 pm:
” Now we have other oligarchs taking an interest in media ownership.”
So what is really happening is that one set or side of the “elites” is resisting the authoritarian totalitarian Leftist Democrat Party elites. Roughly equivalent to when our founders/ framers took on the royal governors and parliamentarian elites of the 1700’s. I suppose Franklin’s Committees of Correspondence helped play a similar media role as “X” does today.
As I recall it, someone said the American Revolution succeeded because it was a political regime change but left the general economic and social structures in place; while the French and Russian Revolutions failed because they were overturning everything that provided a modicum of support for a generally civil society.
The absolute control over Progressive media messaging would keep a story like this buried and below the radar, and any flare-ups by the small fraction of public advocates could be managed.
Aggie:
I would add AI to your list of disruptors of Progressive media capture.
Sure, ChatGPT leans left, but it’s not hard to press it for information which runs counter to the Progressive Narrative. Here’s an AI guy I like:
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The internet, AI and blockchains dissolve distribution, cognition, and enforcement bottlenecks, shifting legitimacy from “trust us’ to “see for yourself.”
–David Shapiro, “How artificial intelligence DESTROYS gatekeeping”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIN4J1iMG2M&t=259s
In spite of the aura of guilty as charged on this alleged Nixonian corruption, Republicans haven’t the spine to go to the mattresses. They don’t. They won’t. And the AWFL’s and the Q-TIP Boomers will never see it on their favorite DemMedia outlets. Probably wouldn’t make a difference anyway if they did by accident.
Those who think Trump is a King will never change their mind. I guess Hillary walking away unscathed after her blatant corruption soured me on anything happening Judicially to those people.
Speaking of Progressive lies… Here’s Megyn Kelly coming for Nicole Wallace with receipts:
–Megyn Kelly, “Nicolle Wallace Claims No One on the Left Compares Trump to Hitler… Here’s the Proof That’s a Lie”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNNctog17gw
The internet doesn’t go away when the Democrats would prefer to ignore Inconvenient Truths.
I t am waiting for a serious indictment on just one the Marxists crimes
I personally think this is good, will the establishment do anything, yet to be seen.
Hmm. I just did a quick tour of the legacy media sites. Nothing about this appears.
I spent years reading briefs in the New York State appellate court system. I read most of the Trump brief last night. I have never seen anything as clear, cogent, and absolutely devastating. It’s impossible to read it and not see what a kangaroo court disaster they made of the New York trial court. I hope the Appellate Division’s toes curl with shame as they read. I’ve never seen a brief expose a judge’s shocking conduct so thoroughly, not even to mention the DA. I’ve seen far less awful examples lead appellate judges to make quiet calls to the Commission on Judicial Conduct.
(I’m also glad to see that Sullivan and Cromwell drafted it, as for a while there lawyers were being officially punished for representing Trump. Maybe S&C figured it’s just too big to be treated like that. I hope so.)
I can’t imagine what on earth the defense will say in response, and I’m eager to see. However, I’ll bet it will be a long time before the responding briefs are filed. They’re going to need it!
Imagine if Arctic Frost was conducted by republicans during the administration of a republican president.
And then the Democrats gained control of the presidency and Congress.
Now imagine how the Democrats would pursue the miscreants.. Suffice it to say they would show up to the dumbpublican – demonkrat basketball game with guns, knives , clubs and IEDs.
Thanks, Mrs. Whatsit.
Was some of these Jack Smith/Biden surveillance actions illegal? If so, the proper thing to do is a DOJ referral, which I think Grassley may already have done. Also, people could be fired, and judges involved could be impeached and removed (although that would require Dems with consciences).
Mrs. Whatsit.
The defense? That’s easy, it’s a partisan lie, it’s all lies.
Emily Jashinsky giving a rundown of it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c0mLXnceLw
What’s… ironic is that Tim Pool’s live show just 2 days ago had a former prosecutor on there giving some… defenses of the system’s actions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raRj7O5M_CE
I am really curious now to see if any of this arctic frost revelation would change his tunes. (nothing on his twitter yet)
https://instapundit.com/753809/#disqus_thread
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I don’t think he can cast a ballot for Mamdani; if I’m not mistaken, he lives in NoVa (around Falls Church).
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This man was an aide to George Bush the Elder. From 1995 to 2015 the four most extensively circulated opinion publications (starboard) were National Review, Human Events, The American Spectator, and The Weekly Standard. He was the editor of the last of these.
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His son-in-law has for some time been editor of the Washington Free Beacon.
Nicolle Wallace and Steven Schmidt were the two grifters John McCain picked to run his campaign in 2008. He would have been at a disadvantage normally, all the more so when Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG, Washington Mutual, Citigroup, Merrill Lynch, Lehman Brothers, and Wachovia were revealed to be insolvent right in the midst of the fall campaign and people were expecting Morgan Stanley to implode as well. Still, every little bit hurts.
Aronberg one of the worst btw one of the epstein enablers
He was a party to much of the lawfare against lewandowski that drove manafort to replace him and put the russian hoax pullseye on trump
I just checked the official website of the NYT. Not a word about Arctic Frost on the front page. Ergo, not worse than Watergate!
Any reason to imagine the investigating agents are now loyal to Trump?
Dream on..
@ fullmoon > You are correct that many investigating agents are not now and never have been loyal to Trump.
However, Patel ought to be isolating them, and fore-fronting whatever loyal patriots he can find in the FBI; presumably he had former friends and gossip channels in place to help locate them.
If all else fails, purge and replace.
It’s what all the Democrat Presidents are allowed to do without question.
@JohnTyler: Imagine if Arctic Frost was conducted by republicans during the administration of a republican president.
Point taken.
We saw something comparable with McCarthyism under Eisenhower and Watergate under Nixon. (Granted, there was more to McCarthyism and less to Watergate than how Democrats want us to remember.)
Democrats are still clapping themselves on the back for those, as though they were all righteous George Washingtons rising to those occasions.
See George Clooney’s “Good Night, and Good Luck” (2005) which recreated the drama of journalist Edward Murrow taking on Senator McCarthy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Night,_and_Good_Luck
@fullmoon: Any reason to imagine the investigating agents are now loyal to Trump?
I’ll settle for loyalty to their pensions, which I’m hoping was the rationale of the rank-and-file to ignore the corruption since Obama was elected.
Yes, since BO was elected. Cannot help but notice that both Robert Mueller and James Comey held high positions in the Bush-the-Younger administration, that Peter Sztrok and Andrew McCabe entered the Bureau ca. 1995, and that the Ruby Ridge catastrophe occurred (for which no penalties were exacted) occurred in 1992. Federal law enforcement has been a latrine for some time.