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  1. The performative anti-Israel Leftists-lite, Democrats Saving Democracy, and all-around Useful Idiots will believe that the Jews manufactured the “alleged” plan, because that is what their Overlords will tell them.
    (Might as well use dramatic hyperbole; maybe someone will put it on the movie trailer some day.)

    Anything to avoid acknowledging even to themselves they have been taken for a ride by the really-truly anti-Semitic Left, encompassing a large number of Democrat elected and appointed officials, all the way down to the Hamas-buddies like Antifa.

  2. It’s still, more than two years later, shocking and disturbing that the massacres of hundreds of Israeli civilians, many women and children, unleashed this wave of anti-Semitism. Of course it was always there, but somehow the attack triggered these scum into making it even more overt. I’ve never been a big fan of the idea of “cognitive dissonance,” but something like that must be at work. The impossibility of reconciling the attack with their sanguine view of the Palestinians forced them to deny the reality of what happened, and to double down on their Jew hatred.

  3. “Cognitive dissonance”, ye say?

    Here’s how EU governments (and the British Labour Party) cares about its women…and—needless to say—ALL of its citizenry!

    ‘“It’s Only Going To Get Worse” – Irish Teen Girl Delivers Passionate Warning Against Mass Immigration’—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/its-only-going-get-worse-irish-teen-girl-delivers-passionate-warning-against-mass

    Naturally, the global feminist movement is absolutely outraged and marching in the streets about all of this.

    Oh…wait…

  4. Time to play a little “Compare and Contrast”…

    “After campus threats, professor ‘apologizes’ for IDF past;
    “After masked activists disrupted his lecture and threatened his life, Professor Michael Ben-Gad reaffirmed his IDF service, saying he ‘would have crawled over cut glass’ to defend his people.”—
    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/416941

    “…10/7 denier, encounters ‘major embarrassment’;
    “Francesca Albanese, UN envoy who denied the Hamas massacre and sexual terrorism on October 7, stepped off the podium in South Africa where a surprise awaited her.”—
    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/416955

    + Bonus
    “Drone footage: How Hamas faked the recovery of a hostage’s body”—
    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/416953

  5. I have heard Einat Wilf, before. She has finally come around. Good.

    Einat Wilf has been wrong on so many things. She joined PM Ehud Barak’s Party, and Barak was a corrupt Leftist and frequent visitor to Jeffrey Epstein’s homes.

    She is an atheist and that is her prerogative, but in other videos she claims that there is no such thing as a Jewish Religion – in other words – no Judaism. Seriously, what? So what are the Torah, Talmud, Tanach, Rabbis, Temples, Synagogues???

    On her website she says:

    ” So, I drafted the following phrase:

    The Jewish people and Palestinian people are both indigenous to the Land of Israel/Palestine and therefore have an equal and legitimate claim to a sovereign state for their people on the land.”

    So the Jews have been in Israel for 3,500 years and some Syrian and Egyptian Arabs, now called “Palestinians” thanks to the USSR, have existed since the 1960’s. She makes the same Israeli Left Wing mistake that there is an equality. There is not.

    She doesn’t say where this “Palestinian State” should be located – she will leave that ambiguous. She criticized the Oslo Accords for being ambiguous.

    Like a lot of Left Wing Jews in Israel, since October 7, 2023 she finally gets the what Muslims have in store Jews. Good to see her change of mind. She says correctly that the word Palestine was hijacked. It used to refer to a place where Jews lived.

    Who was the 1st Palestinian in US Congress? If I said a Jew, would that surprise? he held a Palestine passport.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hans_Krebs

  6. Who was the 1st Palestinian in US Congress? If I said a Jew, would that surprise? he held a Palestine passport.

    Yes, the Jewish inhabitants prior to 1948 of what is now Israel were called “Palestinians.” We have letters from my wife’s father, who volunteered for the Israeli “Air Force” (such as it was) during the 1948 war, and he used that term for the Jewish inhabitants. I believe Yasser Arafat (born in Egypt) invented a “Palestinian” nationality in the 1960s, presumably knowing that the name would help the cause.

  7. @John Galt III:So the Jews have been in Israel for 3,500 years and some Syrian and Egyptian Arabs, now called “Palestinians” thanks to the USSR, have existed since the 1960’s.

    Not true. Travelers to the Holy Land over the centuries met both Jews and Arabs there before any of that land was ever assigned to Syria or Egypt or Jordan. The “Arabs” there are descended from Jews, Phoenicians, Philistines, Canaanites, Greeks, Romans, Turks, etc as well as invaders from Arabia.

    You can start with Mark Twain’s “Innocents Abroad”, where he describes meeting in “Palestine” ” Jews, Arabs, and negroes”. All that land was under Turkey then.

  8. I think John Galt III was suggesting that the modern concept of “Palestinian” began around the 1960s as a result of communist / PLO propaganda. Not that Arabs were not in the region before that.

  9. “Not true. Travelers to the Holy Land over the centuries met both Jews and Arabs there before any of that land was ever assigned to Syria or Egypt or Jordan. The “Arabs” there are descended from Jews, Phoenicians, Philistines, Canaanites, Greeks, Romans, Turks, etc. as well as invaders from Arabia.”

    From 1517 to 1917 the area that is now Israel was the Ottoman Empire. Period. That was Turkish. Arabs and their goats and sheep just passed on through. There was no Arab Palestine. The “Palestinians” are a contrived piece of nonsense.

    As Wilf says in the video and she is 100% correct, The USSR and its Arab buddies “hijacked” the word Palestine. There was never a Muslim Arab Palestine. Never. Ever. Not. Zero. Nada. Was there an Arab goat herder wandering around? Sure. Name most likely al-Masri (The Egyptian) Like Yasser Arafat from Cairo and Cairo is in Egypt or Illinois or wherever but not Israel. The Muslim Arab “Palestinians’ are just a wedge to force the Jews from Israel. It ain’t working whatsoever.

    However, there was a Jewish Kingdom and Jerusalem has been its capital for Millennia.

  10. What Don said. There were Arabs in the region before the 20th century but not at all clear there was a distinct Arab “Palestinian” identity prior to the emergence of the Zionist movement.

    Indeed the whole concept of “national identity” in that region is pretty murky. Jews, Egyptians, Persians and Turks trace back pretty far in time. But Lebanon, Syria and Iraq are conglomerations of tribes with their borders decided by Europeans. Jordan of course was carved out by Britain from their League of Nations “Palestinian Mandate” and given as a consolation prize to the Hashemite family after they lost to the Sauds in the battle for Arabia. Some say Jordan is the real “Palestinian state”.

  11. @FOAF:There were Arabs in the region before the 20th century

    Yes, and they were the majority of the population in that region, though Jews and other groups had also been living there continuously for centuries.

    not at all clear there was a distinct Arab “Palestinian” identity

    I agree with this. There was, however, a territory on the map that was generally called by the rest of the world “Palestine”, and it was mostly populated by Muslims speaking Arabic, with substantial presence of other peoples such as Jews who had been there the whole time.

    That was Turkish. Arabs and their goats and sheep just passed on through.

    This, from John Galt III, is completely false. The land was subject to Turkey, and some Turks lived there, but the population was not generally Turkish.

    Mandatory Palestine, run by the British, had reasonably reliable statistics, and they found as of 1922 that about 70% of the population of Mandatory Palestine was Muslim, over 10% Jewish, and 10% Christian, with the total being fewer than 800,000 people.

    Indeed the whole concept of “national identity” in that region is pretty murky. Jews, Egyptians, Persians and Turks trace back pretty far in time. But Lebanon, Syria and Iraq are conglomerations of tribes with their borders decided by Europeans.

    Totally agree. And would add that these principles by which we are investigating the existence or legitimacy of nationhood should be applied consistently to nations in other parts of the world, and make sure that we’re not inadvertently impeaching the status of say, Canada, or Poland, or Ukraine, or any other country where borders were drawn recently by outsiders around groups of distinct ethnicities living together in a place for a long time. Not saying that you specifically are doing this, but anyone who agrees with what you said here should think it through, if consistency is at all important.

  12. Niketas:

    Yes, that’s why the original mandatory Palestine was divided (partitioned). The Arabs were given the lion’s share, Jordan, early on. Later the remainder was further divided and the Jews given some. I’ve read estimates that of the original region, the Jews got around 23%, but a great percentage of that was (and is) desert.

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