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  1. “(5) There’s a drive in California to put an initiative about voter ID on the ballot:”

    Just a reminder, we in California voted overwhelmingly against gay marriage.

    Struck down on technicality by judge who shortly after came out of the closet, and then retired.

    If this initiative were to succeed, guarantee it will be overturned somehow.

    Meanwhile prop 50 is an attempt to take control of redistricting from a panel of citizens and give it to politicians. Ads are misleading, basically using hate of Trump as a reason to vote for the prop. And, 3 times as many misleading ads for proposition as truthful ads against.

  2. (5) I’ve heard that fake ID’s are very common in the illegal immigrant crowd in California. The passage of such a proposition might make a small dent, but I doubt it would have a substantial impact.

  3. I predict (5) won’t pass despite current polls. The sales pitch against it is just too simple and powerful. It will help Republicans – vote No!

  4. California voter ID:

    This will be a total joke.

    They will issue voter ID to anyone who needs one – illegally or not – or simply mass mail ID’s to every address within a voting district (along with mail-in ballots.)

  5. The feds can require voters to have ID, but they can’t make California officials actually enforce it. Not saying that wouldn’t be a crime, just that it would be routinely ignored, finessed, side-stepped, whatever. Blue butts in prison is the only thing that would stop that and the Left knows how many years of legal effort that would require and how unlikely the GOP would be in charge in DC for the extent of that slog.

  6. Full moon, Proposition 8 that would have banned gay marriage in CA didn’t pass “overwhelmingly”, about 52 or 53 percent but it did pass in November 2008 in the same election where Obama was winning by over 20 percent.

    I saw a pro-Prop 8 demonstration on a street corner in Silicon Valley where I live. None of the demonstrators were white.

  7. I think it is illegal to show ID when you are voting in California. I have taken out my drivers license when I go to the table to get my ballot and the attendants seem upset and tell me I don’t need to show it. I have given up trying to fight it and vote by mail on the first day I receive the ballot. The state provides an automated system that tracks my ballot and sends me an email when they receive and count it. I’m glad I did because the local government snuck a sales tax increase on the ballot when everyone just expected the gerrymander proposition 50. I was happy to vote against it too.

  8. “…local government snuck a sales tax increase on the ballot when everyone just expected the gerrymander proposition 50.” yep.

    One of those temporary tax increases. Then, when it expires, another prop to vote on it, claiming, “it won’t raise any new taxes”.

    So, those temp taxes here in Ca never go away.

  9. Wow, fullmoon. What you wrote
    One of those temporary tax increases. Then, when it expires, another prop to vote on it, claiming, “it won’t raise any new taxes”.

    That is exactly what is being said here in Larimer Cty, CO. I and my immediate neighbors voted no, but it will pass because of braindead Dems.

  10. I think it is illegal to show ID when you are voting in California. I have taken out my drivers license when I go to the table to get my ballot and the attendants seem upset and tell me I don’t need to show it.

    Bob Wilson:

    When I lived in San Francisco, likewise.

  11. Republicans have had George H. W. Bush, George W. Bush, John H. Sununu, and John E. Sununu. Democrats have had Richard J. Daley and Richard M. Daley. I bet there are many similar instances.

    God save the Kings!

  12. New Hampshire is now a purple state, but only because Republicans often win the governorship, as well as controlling the state legislature. They do not do well at the House or Senate level, and the Democrat frontrunner for 2026 is the popular Chris Pappas.

    Pretty much NH is an example of that old saw of libs voting for the same policies that caused them to leave the place they’re original from. (IE People leaving Mass and then voting for the same stuff that caused them to leave Mass in the first place.)

  13. BigD:

    I’ve read a number of studies on the net effect of the moves to NH from Massachusetts, and it’s not clear that’s what has turned the state more liberal. Many of the newcomers are fleeing Massachusetts because they are more conservative.

  14. MA is so far to the left that the “conservatives” leaving it may still be more liberal than the average resident of NH.

  15. Bob Wilson – “I think it is illegal to show ID when you are voting in California. I have taken out my drivers license when I go to the table to get my ballot and the attendants seem upset and tell me I don’t need to show it.”

    Why bother when CA gives drivers’ licenses to illegal aliens anyway?

  16. “Why bother when CA gives drivers’ licenses to illegal aliens anyway?”
    Well, that’s an upside to Real ID. CA can give out DLs to anyone they want, but if it has the star, the possessor has provided “a U.S. birth certificate, U.S. passport, or Permanent Resident Card (Green Card) if you are a non-U.S. citizen.” Any DMV clerk (or higher) who hands out Real ID falsely can be prosecuted in federal court.

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