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  1. I noticed quite a few names of regional States and rulers were mentioned as co-operators in the Trump-Bibi press conference and notably absent so far as I can recollect? Egypt, Al-Sisi. Not surprising at all, but relatively significant, I believe.

  2. I think taqiyya has sucked Trump into thinking he can mastermind peace agreements when what these people (excluding Netanyahu and the Israelis) are seeming to go for is a bit of time that will allow them to rest and restore their own strength to fight again. Their ultimate goal has long been Israel’s elimination–and that is not going to change.

  3. sdfrr: “notably absent.” Yeah, but not publicly denying they support the effort. We might just be getting closer to a deal. That would be a game-changer. For Israel, for us, and ultimately for the people of Gaza.

  4. BetsyBounds

    Doesn’t seem like taqquya is an issue here. Trump did not sign over one of his hotels on Hamas’ promise.

    If Hamas tries taqqiyaing, the promise is that Israel will destroy them. No room for fudging on Hamas’part. Pick one. Live up to the deal or be destroyed.

  5. With that many Arab/Muslim states signing on to Trump’s deal, they are essentially telling Hamas “No messing around; we know what taqiyya is and you can’t get away with it with us.”

    Unless they are all dissembling (and there may be some), this is a Yuge Deal, and goes much further than the Abraham Accords did, which Biden Inc. shut down, probably out of both pique and their commitment to backing Iran against all the other states.
    Had they kept the Accords in operation, I really doubt that Hamas would have attempted anything like the 10/7 attack.

    This does leave open the question of who is willing to take in the Hamas warriors who surrender, but I presume that the Ministers giving assent to the deal have worked that out somehow.

    The NBC report included doubts that Hamas would sign on, but the roster of states now publicly against them IMO gives a message of “take the deal or lose our support going forward.”

    The Jews concerned about annexation and sovereignty issues should listen to the similar message from Trump: “This is the best you are going to get in the international world as it is. A neutral state on your border is all you can ever hope for.”

    As quoted in the NBC report: White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt suggested to Fox News early Monday that under the deal “both sides” might “have to give up a little bit and might leave the table a little bit unhappy.”

    That’s what negotiation is all about.
    Nobody ever gets 100% of what they want in an honest deal.
    Hamas, like Iran, always wants 150%, and up to now they have gotten it, with the complicity of the UN and much of Europe.

    Since Israel has shown that they can completely destroy Gaza, and much of Iran, any time they want, and now has conditional backing from the US to do so, I think the rest of the Middle East is ready to give up keeping Hamas & Gaza as pawns for their own domestic needs because they have become more trouble than they are worth.

  6. I have been trying to figure out what snapback sanctions are. They sound ominous but near as I can tell, they are sanctions on selling Iran technology that can be used to enrich uranium. I’m amazed that countries like Germany can do that now. There are also some sanctions on financial transactions that I have not been able to figure out. To me, the biggie is buying oil from them. Apparently China will buy all they can sell. So the next step is to block the straits of Hormuz. But that will affect our so-called allies in the region.

    So I’m puzzled why Iran would care about the sanctions.

    Here’s an article that discusses the sanctions does not explain them to me

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/snapback-what-are-the-sanctions-that-have-been-reimposed-on-iran/

  7. Iran can just look to Russia and China and N.Korea and ……..to obtain whatever equipment they need to continue to develop nukes.
    “Shell companies” can be founded and used to buy and transport whatever Iran will need.

    But here is an idea !!!!

    Let’s send Obama to Iran to personally deliver a few BILLION $$$ in cash to Iran and in return, Iran will promise to use the cash for humanitarian causes.
    This will certainly dissuade Iran from building nukes.

  8. One does not need a 20 point plan to learn if it will fail or not.
    Woodrow Wilson had 14 points in his plan and arguably, it may have contributed to WWII.

    Moses’ plan just had 10 points and still serves as a good guide for individual behavior, but it has not been successful in eliminating conflicts.

  9. Moms only need three rules:
    1. If it’s not yours, leave it alone.
    2. If you mess it up, you clean it up.
    3. Keep your hands to yourself.

    Scales up just fine.

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