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Background to the hatred: the right as the new Jews — 19 Comments

  1. Jews in the US have been prominent on the liberal side of things for a long time. Gratitude for their courage and energy in the civil rights activities of the Fifties and Sixties has not been forthcoming. But people know.
    Today, in the view of some or many, “liberal” shades into “progressive” and thus to BLM/Antifa. From the outside, the lines of separation are not clear and not likely obvious on the inside.
    Perhaps it would be useful for Jews on the conservative side to be a bit more visible. Offset the prevailing, if antiquated, view of how “they” think.

  2. we’ve seen cries of “racist,” “transphobe,” “hater,” “Nazi,” and “Fascist” increasingly weaponized”
    We need to be wary of transgenders gender dysphorics, given their disproportionate representation in mass shootings and assasinations. It is not a phobia. Brett Kavanaugh’s would-be assassin now claims to be a woman.

    “The right is half the population –” More people voted for Trump than for Ms. Harris.

    “– and perhaps growing as a reaction to leftist extremism.” From your keyboard to God’s eyes!

  3. Richard Aubrey:

    Are you kidding me? Jews on the conservative side are very visible and have been for a long time. Just to name a few, writers (from the older generation) Podhoretz (Norman) and Kristol (Irving); David Horowitz, Dennis Prager, Ben Shapiro, various foreign policy people, many large donors (I wrote a post on that but don’t have time to find it at the moment), Roger L. Simon – I could go on and on.

    Hey, there’s even Roseanne Barr, who may not be a great thinker but who is visibly politically conservative and Jewish.

    Many conservative Jews are Orthodox and are visible and active in those communities but are probably not on your radar screen.

  4. “The right is half the population – and perhaps growing as a reaction to leftist extremism.”

    I believe the words of Rapper Tom McDonald hold true:

    “They may have killed an soldier; but that man had an army”

    Given how many people around the world have held vigils for Charlie Kirk we know that his reach was wide, very wide. And is growing.

  5. Gender “dysphoria” is a serious symptom of the West’s cultural and moral decay.
    Why is there this dysphoria? The Oxford definition of dysphoria is “generalized dissatisfaction with life”. I think this is correct. Way too many of us have become disconnected from time-honored customs and standards, isolated ever more in individualism and self-serving. No satisfaction there! The digital AI life is shallow and shabby, often with inverted values and garbage posed as deep-thinking, and that is all that’s left after the sacred cultural icons have been taken out and shot. But wait! maybe you suffer from MAGA Nationalism. I am proud of it.

  6. “I know the analogy of anti-white feeling to historical anti-Semitism is far from perfect. But it’s still relevant. Both have as a prominent feature the sweeping idea of inherent and collective guilt of an entire people and/or race. How can this guilt ever be erased?”

    Implicit to the demonization is that ‘atonement’ can only be achieved through racial, cultural and ethnic suicide.

    The tragic irony is that in declaring Jews and whites to have no right to life, they voluntarily forfeit their own claim to have a right to life.

  7. neo
    I get writers. But they don’t make the headlines. The folks you mention are familiar to scholars and I, at least, recognize most names. But unless one has read their work, who knows?

    I can’t imagine another Charlie Kirk, but somebody getting out there in some fashion, with similar exposure–figuratively speaking–or even a lot less is the sort of thing I’m picturing as necessary to make the point.

    Goodman, Schwerner, and Chaney, may God bless them, came and went in public consciousness pretty quickly except in the civil rights community. Which was small as it was,

    How about a do-over of Firing Line, with a Jewish host? Or when Tucker’s schtick was to invite a liberal on to the show to talk himself into knots.

    A conservative Jewish columnist isn’t going to make it in the MSM, but they exist and some kind of breakout thing might be designed.

    Call your, or every one you have time for, and see that they have all the works of those writes you mentioned. Talked to a librarian recently. If they get a request for a book they don’t have, somebody in acquisitions usually, will look it up, check copies run, author’s record, other books by the same and decide to acquire it. Or not but without the call, the process might not start.

    Point is being out there for people who aren’t necessarily looking for you.

  8. I would not compare what’s happening now in America to the Right or to whites with persecution of Jews in any way. I don’t think the historical parallel is very good, for many reasons. And I think the unintended rhetorical effect is to minimize the historical persecution of Jews.

    Hutus and Tutsis might be a little better but too few remember any of that, and the enormity of what happened in Rwanda is just nothing to compare against hurtful words and isolated violence.

  9. @ Niketas > “The enormity of what happened in Rwanda is just nothing to compare against hurtful words and isolated violence.”

    True.
    But if the Left succeeds in pushing the Right to get kinetic in our own defense, the Rwandan (and Balkans) example could quickly become the norm.

  10. Hitler’s Demonization of the Jews was similar to the Hutu Demonization of the more successful Tutsis. Emotionally driven by envy, verbally and “rationally” driven by lies. If the lies were true, the punishment might even be justified as fighting evil.
    But the lies are not true.

    This is the Democratic Demonization Strategy, against Trump, now also Kirk. Please name it as such, or coin a different phrase. Krauthamer was correct in claiming Liberals think Conservatives are evil, but mis-labelled Bush Derangement Syndrome, now Trump DS. It’s Dems, not Trump nor Bush nor Kirk who are deranged. As the Hutus & Nazis were deranged. Because of their Demonization Strategy.

    Satan’s biggest lie is to get so many to believe he doesn’t exist.

    We must clearly name, and oppose, the Dem Demonization Strategy.

  11. Rwanda has not improved. Seems there is a free-for-all chronic slaughter going on, especially tough on Christians.

  12. “The right is half the population…”

    and we are generally armed to the teeth.

    Come on Left Bros, we don’t really want to go there, do we?

  13. I bet 51% of the people who had animosity towards Kirk and said he deserved what he got, or shrugged their shoulders and said “well he said hateful things so I’m not too surprised,” can’t even properly quote what he said on any given subject. If a right of center person gets big enough to catch the left’s eye, they’ll isolate you and then dehumanize you. Alinsky Rule #5, #9 and #12.

  14. well the Wandering Coma, and his acolytes called us Gusanos, Worms, which is probably even worse that Kulaks I reckon

    emmett tyrell called it the kultursmog, and it’s gotten thicker since I started reading him the 90s, frankly the Spectator, which was subject to the first round of lawfare on spurious grounds never really recovered its mojo

  15. @ David Foster – thanks for the link. A very interesting essay, and one which conservatives should read to see how the “other side that is still sane” sees the issues that Charlie Kirk, and many of us, talk about.

    The author, David Dennison, doesn’t agree with any of Kirk’s assertions that I could see (he is milder in his disagreement with a few), but I don’t agree with everything Charlie put forth either, although mostly in terms of emphasis rather than general principal.

    He does a very thorough job of researching all of the Left’s hyperbolic claims, however, and that is something we also need to do when criticizing anyone Left, Right, or Center, before making decisions about them.

    And he most definitely does not think that anything Charlie believed or said should have been a death sentence; the fact that so many Democrats apparently do worries him as much as it should worry anyone who dares to deviate from the narrow party line, much less those who are in a completely different ball field.

    I recommend checking out his Substack to anyone else interested in following a progressive liberal who doesn’t seem to have succumbed to all of the group-think.

  16. I followed my own advice and read the other posts by Mr Dennison from September 1 up to the one David linked form September 16.
    Just, wow.

    He is giving the same advice to the Left and especially “normal” Democrats as we are seeing from other astute members of their “team,” which they aren’t taking to heart.

    His writing is well-structured and he seems to have a real regard to finding out the facts before sounding off about the topic he’s exploring. He reminds me a lot of Matt Taibbi, who is another “sane progressive” that I read daily, and others have also noted here at Neo’s.

  17. I particularly recommend two posts that are kind of matched parentheses for this year.
    The first is a chastisement of the Democrats who “can’t understand how Trump got elected” not just once but twice! The second is why they are going to continue to lose elections (competitive ones, not Democrat locks or heavily frauded ones).
    Basically the first one points out how they got on the wrong road, and the second confirms that no one paid attention to his warning, and went even further in the wrong direction.

    The dramatic arc epitomizes the MAGA catchphrase, “This is how you get more Trump.”

    https://dennisonwrites.substack.com/p/why-people-like-trump
    “The president’s appeal explained in a meme.”
    January 21, 2025

    There are a lot of people on the right who find Trump every bit as uncouth and vulgar as his fiercest liberal opponents do. They vote for him because when all’s said and done, he’s giving them more of what they want than most Republicans or any Democrats would.

    Trump voters (well, most of them…) aren’t in favor of puerile and reprehensible behavior. They just don’t want to live in a country where one, puerile and reprehensible moment can end your life as you know it. They don’t want to be defined by their worst deeds – who does? – and when Trump pulls stunts like this, what he’s really telling them is that they don’t have to be afraid anymore. That nobody’s going to go digging through their college photos, or scouring their social media accounts from 10 years ago, and coming up with dirt that’s dirty enough to ruin them.

    And guys, we need to own this. Because we absolutely did it. Cancel culture was not a *both sides* thing. It was the exclusive property of the left.

    Part of the left’s much-needed reckoning will have to address this if we ever want to win things again. “Cancel culture,” or “accountability culture,” or whatever your preferred term of art is, is not some right wing boogeyman. It is very real, and incredibly pernicious. Now, in my experience, the Venn diagram of *people who don’t think cancel culture is real* and *people promulgating cancel culture* is a perfect circle.

    It’s quite an achievement: managing to make yourself so intolerably annoying that people wanted Donald Trump to be the president just so they could watch you cry. Really, he should’ve thanked you in his inaugural address, because without you, there’s no him. But I digress… In all seriousness, you really ought to find some answers for why you came to believe that the appropriate punishment for making an errant comment should be permanent exile and starvation.

    And lest you think I’m projecting here, it’s probably worth my taking a moment to clue you in on the complicated research methodology I employed to arrive at these conclusions. Are you ready for it? It’s pretty advanced stuff. I…listened to people who like Donald Trump. That’s literally it.

    Trump, by being his own, horrible self, is the annoying kid to end all annoying kids. And he’s cancellation kryptonite. When he does something horrendous, and his supporters watch him fail to pay any price for it – when they watch him double down – it gives them hope. It makes them think they’ve found a bigger junkyard dog to sic on the one that’s been harassing them for the last decade.

    Liberals make the mistake of assuming that Trump’s supporters, in excusing his many bigotries, must necessarily share them. That’s understandable, but it’s wrong. All this “waaahhh, they voted for cruelty” malarky is entirely off point. In Leftworld, yes, that’s absolutely how it would work. To continue to stand next to a radioactive person would risk making you radioactive.

    But conservatives have formed a parallel values system in opposition to that framework, and it’s vitally important to understand it if we don’t want the guy after Trump to be even worse. Instead of “ditch the radioactive guy” it’s more like, “rally around the radioactive guy, because the next radioactive guy could be me!” That may be a lot of things, but *stupid* isn’t one of them. And neither should *confusing* be.

    Every time Trump misbehaves and the left has a meltdown, all that’s happening is that his opponents are reminding his supporters why they like him so much. Speaking out against Trump is like trying to fight fires with a super soaker full of gasoline. We need a new approach. That can’t happen until we at least recognize that the current one isn’t working, has never worked, and never will work.

    Please. Retire, forever, the construction, “I’ll just never understand.” Instead, maybe…try to? Because really, you’re not impressing anyone. You’re not helping anything, your purity doesn’t make you special, and after 10 years of watching this cycle repeat, you just sound like an idiot.

    https://dennisonwrites.substack.com/p/for-cheering-liberals
    “You are radicalizing the normies. The right has boiled over.”
    September 10, 2025
    Scrolling through the news feed that morning, he found a earlier tweet from Charlie Kirk with the sadly familiar picture of Iryna Zarutska just before she died, with the caption, “America will never be the same.”
    Almost immediately after, he saw a series of tweets with memes mocking Kirk’s murder.

    Terminal onlinism selects for political junkies and holders of extreme views in ways that sometimes leave the impression that normies have been rendered extinct. They haven’t though.

    Most of us – not including myself in this, obviously – actually are just decent people trying to pass the days. Most of us actually do think that violence, of all stripes, is sad and undesirable, and cling to antiquated, folksy views like, just as an example, that America isn’t supposed to be a country where people are murdered for just sitting on trains or expressing their political views, however harsh or unpopular.

    So when those types log on and see things like this: [the memes]
    It hits them in an entirely different way to how it hits us poster-brains.

    After what was already an emotionally-charged week for the right (to say the literal least), I was pretty unsurprised by the fury and the sense of boiling-over exhibited by right-leaning commentators.

    I was also unsurprised by the gloating, the whatabouting, and the look-over-thereing on display from the left. The intensity was higher, for both, but neither phenomenon was new to me.

    The only folks to surprise me today were the normies. We don’t hear from them a lot. We hear from them so little, in fact, that it can be difficult to remember that they too hold political opinions, carry sensibilities, and possess strong feelings about what’s right, what’s decent, and what represents appropriate, American conduct.

    Celebrating the death of a political opponent – even one who has espoused highly provocative views – is anathema to people whose brains have not been rotted by social media and the 24-hour news cycle. It is, as we say, not a good look to them.

    Charlie Kirk was murdered in front of his wife. In front of his two young children. They were there. In person. At the event. Watching their husband, their daddy, take one in the neck and keel over. I am hard pressed to imagine how a person could look more ghoulish than by regarding that as “just deserts.”

    If you hated Charlie Kirk, hated what he stood for, and regard the world as being a better place without him in it, you are entitled to those thoughts. You will face no pressure from me to post “RIP,” or share come-together memes, or to go out of your way to lament the manner in which he died.

    But I implore you: you must knock it off with the mocking and the cheering and rubbing of noses in the dirt. This ain’t the day for it. Be the bigger one. Please.

    I don’t mean this in a general sense. I’m not making some sweepy, I-weep-for-this country point about civility, or not speaking ill of the dead. I’ve spoken ill about plenty of dead people.

    I’m saying: you are playing with a very dangerous fire on this one. I suspect you do not realize it, but you need to stop before it burns out of control. We may already have passed that tipping point.

    This has nothing to do with you being “right.” It has nothing to do with whether your points about Kirk are on point or not. It’s about context.

    Your media consumption habits are likely shielding you from understanding the impact of this news on the American right. And the formerly reliable silence of normies has likely misled you into thinking that more Americans approve of the inhumanity you’re displaying today than actually do.

    Two angles here: politics and security.

    If you haven’t been following the story of the tragic stabbing in Charlotte, NC (and if you avoid conservative media, you probably haven’t been) you may not fully grasp the extent to which Kirk’s assassination could not possibly have taken place at a worse or more volatile time.

    The security concern here is civil war. Not rude posting back and forth on Facebook, not rage-sharing MSNBC and Fox clips. Violence.

    I have seen political posts today from people I didn’t know knew how to make political posts. People I didn’t know had political opinions. And they are all the same. All expressing a united sentiment: horror at what happened to Charlie Kirk and revulsion at how you are reacting to it.

    You want saner gun laws? You want better mental healthcare? You want a more compassionate political climate? A country with less hatred? My friends, you are turning off, in droves, the very people whose support you will need to make this happen.

  18. I note several nations have supported the formation of a Palestinian state. Trying to figure this out….
    How about this? If you’re going to abandon people because supporting them is too difficult or too expensive, maybe you make excuses and feel better about it if you condemn them for various non-existent of grossly exaggerated offenses.

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