Since an online poster may be followed by people who (in real life) know his identity and employer, I think the employer should be free to fire him for unacceptable conduct.
It’s a judgment call, Selfy. It depends somewhat on the content of the offensive post. Someone who celebrates murder may be dangerous to fellow workers, agreed. Other comments someone might deem offensive (disagreements about lifestyle choices, religion, whether babies should be aborted) could be tolerated so long as the disagreements are not carried into the work environment.
I once had a work colleague who began leaving religious texts on people’s desks and trying to convert them at the office. Our supervisor, who shared this colleague’s faith, as a matter of fact, told him to cut it out during work hours. Lunch hour, fine, if people want to do it. Actually at work, no.
“What we know about Tyler Robinson”
Robinson attended Utah State University in 2021, where he majored in engineering, but took leave after one semester.
He later attended Dixie Technical College, where school officials said he was in his third year of study in the electrical apprenticeship program.
[…] Robinson had registered as nonpartisan in Utah, while both of his parents were registered Republicans, according to registration data reviewed by The Times. His father worked with granite countertops and his mother was a licensed social worker.
Now maybe the first info about the Dad being a Deputy Sheriff will disappear.
Fire them if they do it on work time and/or work site. Influencers need to be pillared to the post.
Comments by employees to the press or in official capacity, fire them for cause.
Others, I am almost fine with Doxing. But I do not want someone physically harmed. In that, I am very different than the Dems
In a post on Facebook, the Washington County Attorney’s Office wrote: “You may be seeing on the news that a young man named Tyler Robinson has been arrested in connection with Charlie Kirk’s death. The suspect, Tyler Robinson, was arrested in Washington County last night and he has been transported to Utah County. The Utah County Attorney’s Office has jurisdiction over the case.”
“The individual arrested is NOT related to Washington County law enforcement!” the office wrote. “There are multiple people with the same names.”
I have had to sign paperwork when being hired at companies, that it was “employment at will,” and that I could be fired “for any reason, or no reason.”
Just saw a left repost where the author was trying to make the case that Tyler was a far right extremist…..sigh…. they are so effing predictable.
The Tommy Robinson led massive anti-immigration rally rocks London today, as you can see in this guided aerial view (no ground reportage) report.
Only “thousands” and thousands converged on Parliament in Westminster, is the claim. But surely, north of 100,000 appears likely, to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIAN5D7NUFQ
@ TJ – Musk hasn’t been shy with what he believes, and doesn’t pull his punches.
Advantage of being a brilliant autiste with more money than some countries, and products that people want even if they don’t like him.
Bill Maher didn’t hold back on Friday night’s Real Time, dedicating his monologue and roundtable to the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk — a killing that’s rattled Washington and sparked a bitter debate about political violence.
“It’s a very ugly week in America with violence of all kinds: political violence, regular violence, a lot of people talking about a civil war,” Maher began his opening monologue. “And then today in Congress, because Charlie Kirk got assassinated, [Colorado Representative] Lauren Boebert stood up and said, ‘We need to have a prayer.’ So they started to have a silent prayer. And then she started screaming, ‘No! Silent prayers get silent results.’ As if praying out loud gets big results. Then the Democrats started screaming at her that there was a school shooting in her state. I tell you, so far, the civil war is not very civil.”
Maher also took aim at Donald Trump’s comments in the wake of Kirk’s death. “Today, they asked the President, ‘What are you going to do to bring the country together?’ And he said, ‘I know this is going to get me in trouble, but I could care less,’” Maher said, drawing laughs. “He’s a different kind of cat. His message is, ‘Let the healing stop.’”
[AF: note that Bill is interpreting not quoting. I suspect some context is needed here; see link below]
Later, Maher welcomed Ben Shapiro and Tim Alberta for a tense panel. Shapiro pointed to polling that showed “only 57% of Gen Z say there is no excuse for violence in response to speech.” He added, “There are at least 42% that believe that there are some times that the violence ought to be a response to speech, which is deeply terrifying.”
Alberta, who called himself a “sparring partner from a distance” to Kirk, said the reaction has been troubling. “The response to this has not been shock and horror … If anything, it seems as though, particularly to Ben’s point among younger voters, that this is becoming mainstreamed and becoming acceptable.”
Maher, meanwhile, blamed “the cancer” of social media for fueling the divide. “The only way this starts to get better is if both sides admit, ‘Okay, let’s not have this debate about who started it … plainly, both sides do it now. And the right has done it too. A lot.’”
When Shapiro cited reporting suggesting the suspected shooter leaned left, Maher wasn’t having it. “It’s two days out. We don’t know shit. The internet is undefeated in getting it wrong to begin with.”
NOTE again: by last night we had plenty of evidence about Robinson’s beliefs and motives, but in general Maher is right, and I’ve seen stories that contradict each other on timelines, what other people did or said about him, and other relatively inconsequential things that will eventually be ironed out.
[CNBC anchor Joe] Kernen said Trump reached out Thursday to congratulate him on the 30th anniversary of CNBC’s “Squawk Box,” but the call turned to Kirk’s death. Kernen took the call privately off camera but relayed points from their conversation on TV.
“He went on to say the country will heal,” the longtime CNBC host continued. “He’s focused on what he has been focused on, and he says, ‘I’m focused on winning, if the country wins and if I do everything I can to help the country win, that we’re all going to be able to come together again.’”
“So that was his message,” Kernen said.
We don’t get many links from YouTube transcripts and/or summaries, so who knows what Maher thinks he heard somewhere.
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‘Maher also took aim at Donald Trump’s comments in the wake of Kirk’s death. “Today, they asked the President, ‘What are you going to do to bring the country together?’ And he said, ‘I know this is going to get me in trouble, but I could care less,’” Maher said, drawing laughs.’
Naturally, media edited the clip and Maher jumped right in. All the MSM and democrat politicians played edited clip in order to create more hate and fuel the fire.
@ fullmoon – thanks, I couldn’t find the right source. It’s very clear that Trump said he doesn’t care if he gets into trouble for saying what follows: that the Right has some people getting very upset about the destruction being wrought by Democrat policies, but the Left is vicious in their actions to increase that destruction.
Of course, the Left / Democrats will NEVER PLAY the full clip for their listeners, who will take Maher’s (and others’)as the “correct” versions.
Democrats lie.
All the time.
About everything.
Their reaction to Kirk’s assassination became too big too fast for them to hide.
Forgot to add above that I bolded Maher’s remark about silent and verbal prayer because most religious people know there is a difference, if only to demonstrate one’s own commitment to the subject being prayed about.
And sometimes praying out loud does get big results, because it focuses the faith of all of those participating on the same petition.
Personally, I find that praying verbally keeps my mind from wandering off-track.
Muslims go out on the street 5 times a day to pray; maybe Christians should start doing the same.
I’m watching a long-form Bill Maher / Charlie Kirk interview from four months ago.
I’m struck by how open and decent Kirk is. You might say Christian. Clearly he doesn’t agree with Maher on many points, but no interruptions, no shout-downs, no put-downs.
Maher is OK, but he takes Kirk’s decency as an opportunity to do most of the talking.
Charlie, I hardly knew ye.
BTW – the athletic feats in Neo’s video are amazing. Some of the people show up more than once, especially the woman who does chin ups with barbell weights on her feet (!!), and some of the skaters. The girls are not a whit behind the boys in their skills.
AesopFan:
Their reaction to Kirk’s assassination became too big too fast for them to hide.
Exactly. When they tell you who they are, believe them. More and more Americans do.
Personally, I find that praying verbally keeps my mind from wandering off-track.
Exactly again. God doesn’t need prayers. We do.
Maybe Jews and Christians should market praying as meditation so the bi-coastal folks can get it.
@ cb – It seems to me that the Albanian government gave a pretty good reason for enlisting some AI help to combat corruption and the difficulty of overseeing spending, but it does seem a little excessive to give it a cabinet post.
Caligula’s horse comes to mind, although that appointment was for different reasons, and he was a trifle insane.
Wikipedia: “According to Suetonius in the Lives of the Twelve Caesars (121 AD), Caligula planned to make Incitatus a consul,[1] and the horse would “invite” dignitaries to dine with him in a house outfitted with servants there to entertain such events. Suetonius also wrote that the horse had a stable of marble, with an ivory manger, purple blankets and a collar of precious stones.
Cassius Dio (165–235 AD) indicated that the horse was attended by servants and was fed oats mixed with gold flake,[2] and that Caligula made the horse a priest.[3]…
The accuracy of the received history is generally questioned.”
I did not know this: “Caligula’s Horse is an Australian progressive metal band from Brisbane, Queensland.”
@ huxley > “Maybe Jews and Christians should market praying as meditation so the bi-coastal folks can get it.”
I’ve seen that done, but although there are good reasons for meditation, it is NOT prayer.
Also from Gateway Pundit, although I think Powerline tried to link a similar story in their headline picks (it came up with a different one, wrong URL or something).
The Honorary Secretary of the Oxford Literary and Debating Union Trust (OLDUT), the charity that owns the Oxford Union’s buildings and oversees its charitable responsibilities, has resigned in protest, citing the callous behavior of the Oxford Union’s President-Elect following the assassination of Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk in the United States.
The Secretary declared he could no longer remain in his role as the Union’s charitable overseer while its incoming leadership celebrates political violence and trustees refuse to intervene.
After news broke that Kirk had been shot, Oxford Union President-elect George Abaraonye allegedly wrote on Telegram, “Charlie Kirk got shot, let’s f*ing go,” according to The Telegraph.
IMO, the fault is not so much with Abaraonye (his vitriol is disgusting, but he is entitled to his opinion), but with the people who elected him.
This is the same problem we see in one institution after another, captured in Iowahawk’s classic description of The Skin Suit.
“I’d like to see it [the nation] heal,” the president said in a brief telephone interview with NBC News. “But we’re dealing with a radical left group of lunatics, and they don’t play fair and they never did.”
I’ve seen that done, but although there are good reasons for meditation, it is NOT prayer.
AesopFan:
I can go either way.
Basically I see Christianity as a form of bhakti yoga — devotional love of God — which doesn’t please most Christians for reasons I understand but don’t worry about.
Neem Karoli Baba, a 20th C Hindu guru, had many Western disciples. He enjoyed telling them they ought to return to Christianity, which annoyed the Westerners. He spoke very lovingly of Christ.
One of his Western disciples was renamed Krishna Das and he became a rock star on the Western kirtan (Hindu chanting) circuit.
One of his concert numbers was to tell a long shaggy dog story about going deep into the jungles of India and encountering a magnificent statue of a god who seemed to be holding a telephone to his ear.
The chants to this god were no longer intelligible, but Krishna Das was going to sing them anyway and perhaps the audience would glean some meaning from them:
___________________________
Jesus on the mainline, tell him what you want.
Jesus on the mainline, tell him what you want.
Jesus on the mainline, tell him what you want.
You can call him up and tell him what you want.
Kate, you wrote in https://thenewneo.com/2025/09/12/the-suspect-in-the-kirk-assassination-is-in-custody/#comment-2821975
“Selfy, if a person posts offensive material without identifying his employer, I think he should be left alone unless the employer finds that the ugly beliefs are carried into the workplace.”
Since an online poster may be followed by people who (in real life) know his identity and employer, I think the employer should be free to fire him for unacceptable conduct.
It’s a judgment call, Selfy. It depends somewhat on the content of the offensive post. Someone who celebrates murder may be dangerous to fellow workers, agreed. Other comments someone might deem offensive (disagreements about lifestyle choices, religion, whether babies should be aborted) could be tolerated so long as the disagreements are not carried into the work environment.
I once had a work colleague who began leaving religious texts on people’s desks and trying to convert them at the office. Our supervisor, who shared this colleague’s faith, as a matter of fact, told him to cut it out during work hours. Lunch hour, fine, if people want to do it. Actually at work, no.
“What we know about Tyler Robinson”
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2025-09-12/what-we-know-about-the-suspected-killer-of-charlie-kirk
Now maybe the first info about the Dad being a Deputy Sheriff will disappear.
Fire them if they do it on work time and/or work site. Influencers need to be pillared to the post.
Comments by employees to the press or in official capacity, fire them for cause.
Others, I am almost fine with Doxing. But I do not want someone physically harmed. In that, I am very different than the Dems
“Thomas Matthew Crooks’ Parents Were Licensed Social Workers, Records Show”
https://www.newsweek.com/thomas-matthew-crooks-donald-trump-mental-health-parents-1926425
Also,
https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-family-what-we-know-about-mom-amber-jones-robinson-dad-matthew-2128943
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Suppose I own a small business, and I learn that one of my employees killed someone driving drunk, or was dealing dope, distributing child porn, or making offensive comments online. I have a right to fire him. The same should apply to larger enterprises.
I have had to sign paperwork when being hired at companies, that it was “employment at will,” and that I could be fired “for any reason, or no reason.”
This is a miracle.
https://x.com/roddreher/status/1966611465726492986?t=hBqGvXDsQVcy1-v5Mbs88g&s=01
“Jane Austen fans honor 250 years since her birth with grand costumed balls and dancing ”
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2025/sep/13/fans-honor-jane-austen-250-years-since-birth-grand-costumed-balls/
Just saw a left repost where the author was trying to make the case that Tyler was a far right extremist…..sigh…. they are so effing predictable.
The Tommy Robinson led massive anti-immigration rally rocks London today, as you can see in this guided aerial view (no ground reportage) report.
Only “thousands” and thousands converged on Parliament in Westminster, is the claim. But surely, north of 100,000 appears likely, to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIAN5D7NUFQ
Where will this lead to? https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/09/creepy-albania-appoints-ai-minister-as-part-government/
At the London “Unite The Kingdom” rally today, Elon Musk delivered surprise remarks.
The thrust of it? “You either fight, or you die.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc7T2m39KYU
@ TJ – Musk hasn’t been shy with what he believes, and doesn’t pull his punches.
Advantage of being a brilliant autiste with more money than some countries, and products that people want even if they don’t like him.
Reaction of Bill Maher, for the Democrat-stalwart-but-relatively-sane point of view.
https://decider.com/2025/09/13/bill-maher-charlie-kirk-assassination-real-time-civil-war/
NOTE again: by last night we had plenty of evidence about Robinson’s beliefs and motives, but in general Maher is right, and I’ve seen stories that contradict each other on timelines, what other people did or said about him, and other relatively inconsequential things that will eventually be ironed out.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5498438-charlie-kirk-trump-tribute-slain-influencer/
We don’t get many links from YouTube transcripts and/or summaries, so who knows what Maher thinks he heard somewhere.
–
‘Maher also took aim at Donald Trump’s comments in the wake of Kirk’s death. “Today, they asked the President, ‘What are you going to do to bring the country together?’ And he said, ‘I know this is going to get me in trouble, but I could care less,’” Maher said, drawing laughs.’
Naturally, media edited the clip and Maher jumped right in. All the MSM and democrat politicians played edited clip in order to create more hate and fuel the fire.
https://x.com/PendragonMR/status/1966799159953895918
@ fullmoon – thanks, I couldn’t find the right source. It’s very clear that Trump said he doesn’t care if he gets into trouble for saying what follows: that the Right has some people getting very upset about the destruction being wrought by Democrat policies, but the Left is vicious in their actions to increase that destruction.
Of course, the Left / Democrats will NEVER PLAY the full clip for their listeners, who will take Maher’s (and others’)as the “correct” versions.
Democrats lie.
All the time.
About everything.
Their reaction to Kirk’s assassination became too big too fast for them to hide.
Forgot to add above that I bolded Maher’s remark about silent and verbal prayer because most religious people know there is a difference, if only to demonstrate one’s own commitment to the subject being prayed about.
And sometimes praying out loud does get big results, because it focuses the faith of all of those participating on the same petition.
Personally, I find that praying verbally keeps my mind from wandering off-track.
Muslims go out on the street 5 times a day to pray; maybe Christians should start doing the same.
I’m watching a long-form Bill Maher / Charlie Kirk interview from four months ago.
–Bill Maher, “Charlie Kirk | Club Random” (97 minutes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OblCcO7-Alg
I’m struck by how open and decent Kirk is. You might say Christian. Clearly he doesn’t agree with Maher on many points, but no interruptions, no shout-downs, no put-downs.
Maher is OK, but he takes Kirk’s decency as an opportunity to do most of the talking.
Charlie, I hardly knew ye.
BTW – the athletic feats in Neo’s video are amazing. Some of the people show up more than once, especially the woman who does chin ups with barbell weights on her feet (!!), and some of the skaters. The girls are not a whit behind the boys in their skills.
AesopFan:
Their reaction to Kirk’s assassination became too big too fast for them to hide.
Exactly. When they tell you who they are, believe them. More and more Americans do.
Personally, I find that praying verbally keeps my mind from wandering off-track.
Exactly again. God doesn’t need prayers. We do.
Maybe Jews and Christians should market praying as meditation so the bi-coastal folks can get it.
@ cb – It seems to me that the Albanian government gave a pretty good reason for enlisting some AI help to combat corruption and the difficulty of overseeing spending, but it does seem a little excessive to give it a cabinet post.
Caligula’s horse comes to mind, although that appointment was for different reasons, and he was a trifle insane.
Wikipedia: “According to Suetonius in the Lives of the Twelve Caesars (121 AD), Caligula planned to make Incitatus a consul,[1] and the horse would “invite” dignitaries to dine with him in a house outfitted with servants there to entertain such events. Suetonius also wrote that the horse had a stable of marble, with an ivory manger, purple blankets and a collar of precious stones.
Cassius Dio (165–235 AD) indicated that the horse was attended by servants and was fed oats mixed with gold flake,[2] and that Caligula made the horse a priest.[3]…
The accuracy of the received history is generally questioned.”
I did not know this: “Caligula’s Horse is an Australian progressive metal band from Brisbane, Queensland.”
@ huxley > “Maybe Jews and Christians should market praying as meditation so the bi-coastal folks can get it.”
I’ve seen that done, but although there are good reasons for meditation, it is NOT prayer.
Also from Gateway Pundit, although I think Powerline tried to link a similar story in their headline picks (it came up with a different one, wrong URL or something).
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/09/shocking-oxford-union-trust-secretary-resigns-protest-after/
IMO, the fault is not so much with Abaraonye (his vitriol is disgusting, but he is entitled to his opinion), but with the people who elected him.
This is the same problem we see in one institution after another, captured in Iowahawk’s classic description of The Skin Suit.
https://x.com/iowahawkblog/status/664089892599631872?lang=en
David Burge @iowahawkblog
1. Identify a respected institution.
2. kill it.
3. gut it.
4. wear its carcass as a skin suit, while demanding respect.
#lefties
Contra Bill Maher again:
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5502376-trump-hopes-nation-will-heal-claims-radical-left-obstacle/
President Trump, in a Saturday interview, said he hopes the nation heals after the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, but blamed the “radical left” for being an obstacle in that healing.
“I’d like to see it [the nation] heal,” the president said in a brief telephone interview with NBC News. “But we’re dealing with a radical left group of lunatics, and they don’t play fair and they never did.”
I’ve seen that done, but although there are good reasons for meditation, it is NOT prayer.
AesopFan:
I can go either way.
Basically I see Christianity as a form of bhakti yoga — devotional love of God — which doesn’t please most Christians for reasons I understand but don’t worry about.
Neem Karoli Baba, a 20th C Hindu guru, had many Western disciples. He enjoyed telling them they ought to return to Christianity, which annoyed the Westerners. He spoke very lovingly of Christ.
One of his Western disciples was renamed Krishna Das and he became a rock star on the Western kirtan (Hindu chanting) circuit.
One of his concert numbers was to tell a long shaggy dog story about going deep into the jungles of India and encountering a magnificent statue of a god who seemed to be holding a telephone to his ear.
The chants to this god were no longer intelligible, but Krishna Das was going to sing them anyway and perhaps the audience would glean some meaning from them:
___________________________
Jesus on the mainline, tell him what you want.
Jesus on the mainline, tell him what you want.
Jesus on the mainline, tell him what you want.
You can call him up and tell him what you want.
–Krishna Das, “Jesus on the Mainline”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV2FNSAkUYg
___________________________
Actually it’s a black gospel song after the telephone was invented. That’s how Krishna Das rolls.
Works for me as prayer or meditation.
The Powerline link to the Oxford story seems to be okay now.
https://x.com/jamespriceglos/status/1966548243677946213
It has been a rough week for most of us that visit here. Perhaps a trip back to another place and time is in order now.
https://www.ekathimerini.com/culture/1280395/hydra-in-the-1960s-a-musicians-saronic-paradise/