So Claire McCaskill claims that the public is stressed out over Trump’s economic policy and that the anger is erupting on Republicans. Funny, I’m not stressed and haven’t heard many complaints even from the left minions. For your amusement:
Physicsguy, I am stressed. Stressed that the Rep may still screw it up and then the Dems will come back – much worse than before.
This tastefully attired woman is Dianne Feinstein’s one and only grandchild. She has an MPH degree and at the time of this event, she held a patronage job in the San Francisco city government. Also at that time, she was 34 years old, unmarried and childless. Speaking, she sounds like an adolescent, nothing like what my mother’s contemporaries sounded like at a similar age. Why does this happen to women?
== https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWZGCXF0Q-U
Venus likely represents one of the paths a rock terrestrial planet with a star’s habitable zone can take, perhaps even a very common one. Unlike Earth, evidently Venus never developed a system of plate tectonics. On Earth, heat generated in the core and mantle (from the decay of radioactive elements) is gradually released via plate tectonics. But on Venus without plate tectonics, the currently theory is this heat builds up over hundreds of millions of years until a massive, catastrophic resurfacing occurrs periodically. During a resurfacing event essentially the entire surface of the planet becomes a molten sea. Massive amounts of carbon dioxide and sulfer build up in the atmosphere and cause the infamous “run away greenhouse effect’ that Venus is known for. The current thinking seems to be that these resurfacing events might happen once every many hundreds of millions of years, with the last one happening in the range of 300-500mya.
New Fermi Paradox filter, eh? Or at least new to me.
Unless the folks I’ve been following thought of plate tectonics as a side effect of a large moon (or maybe planetary collision) and I never caught that little fillip being mentioned.
The Fermi Paradox is the question of, with the universe (and even our galaxy) as big as it is, where are all the aliens?
A Fermi Paradox filter is a reason why intelligent life doesn’t happen, and multiplying the probabilities of them all together can get you an estimate for how many alien civilizations there ‘ought’ to be in the galaxy.
The biggest problem with considering whether something is a filter or not is that we only have the one example of a life-bearing planet, and very little information about any exoplanets. Is a given feature likely, but unique in the solar system? Hard to tell.
I thought that was the drake equation of course you have to calculate the value of each variable
Yeah, so far it seems like the presence of plate tectonics seems to be critical for an Earth-like planet to develop, or at least that’s the current thinking. You need lots of liquid water and internal heat for plate tectonics. Venus likely had liquid water early on, but it may have boiled away due to it being too close to the Sun.
The FPF is an attempt to define one of the parameters in the Drake equation as being extremely improbable. For some time it was thought that planet formation was unlikely, now we know that is the opposite. So FPF posits that one of the factors in the DE has to be very improbable in order to answer the question: “where are they?”. Which parameter is it? Not known.
I’ve talked to biologists who think that intelligence as an evolutionary step is unlikely. Standard Darwin has difficulty with abiogenesis, as well as the sudden appearance of new species. So the FPF filter ball is in the biologist’s court at present. Finding any evidence of past life on Mars would change the game again.
Of course the sociologists and historians have to weigh in on the likelihood of a civilization surviving to the point of extrasolar communication (where we are) and travel (not there yet).
@Boobah:Unless the folks I’ve been following thought of plate tectonics as a side effect of a large moon (or maybe planetary collision) and I never caught that little fillip being mentioned.
Earth’s moon has a very small influence on Earth’s plate tectonics. The same tidal forces that have locked one face of the moon to face Earth also pull on the Earth’s crust and mantle and generate a small fraction of the heat involved. I don’t think it’s probably that.
My suspision is that abiogenesis is not common, but not extremely rare either. I think that the development of multicellularity and/or photosynthesis may be more of a filter. I wouldn’t be surprised if we eventually find some evidence of microfossils of simple, long extinct archaea somewhere else in the solar system like Mars, but nothing more complex than that and nothing currently living. Part of my reasoning for that has to do with the fact that it took a relatively very long time for complex life to develop on Earth. Throughout most of Earth’s history, literally billions of years, the most sophisticated life was simple unicelluar organisms. The evolution of complex life on Earth is relatively recent, less that 635 million years ago (see Ediacaran Biota). This suggests to me that it takes a very long time for such a thing to happen with highly unlikely, ideal circumstances.
When I think of Venus I think of the old Russian ( ? ) proposal of building a floating station high in the Venusian atmosphere. Apparently a replicated Earth atmosphere in a giant balloon could float in the dense Venus atmosphere.
A lot of prime morons on Youtube, advocating not paying your credit card, student loan, or other debt, based on a number of ridiculous theories.
One, what looks to be a pimply, late high school or college-aged guy, urges everyone to borrow as much as they can from a Sweden based lender called Klara.
This, on the theory that since Klara is based in Sweden—in another country–you don’t have to pay off any debts to them because—being in another country–they can’t come after you.
Tell that to the U.S. debt collector Klara hires to hunt you down.
Another genius, this one from England, says that since the money a bank loans to you is not “their money”–but other people’s money–you have no duty to pay the bank back, etc., etc., etc.
Others say, rack up as much debt as you can–grab all the goodies that you can–don’t pay these debts off, and wait the seven years for those bad debts to be cleared from your Credit Report.
Of course, they don’t tell you how you are going to live, in our economy, during those seven years with no access to credit.
The financial illiteracy and lack of basic morality displayed here is staggering.
P.S.–One grinning boob is also on Youtube, bragging that he has a plastic bag in his closet with, I believe the number was 73 credit cards in it. Which, it appears, he has no intention of paying off.
(After you’ve not paid the first few payments, how can you possibly get that many other credit cards sent to you?)
Snow,
There always were and always will be people like that, they’re the reason Democrats exist!
@Snow on Pine:A lot of prime morons on Youtube, advocating not paying your credit card, student loan, or other debt, based on a number of ridiculous theories.
In 2008 and in 2016 there was a rash of stories in legacy media about “jingle mail”, mailing your keys to your mortgage lender instead of making payments, with a strategically selective narrative about the consequences (“your credit rating may suffer for a few years” YA THINK). Galactically stupid. When your lender takes your house, you’re not off the hook for the mortgage. You need to read all that paperwork. My sister said something once about advising my dad to do that and I gave her both barrels, I’m sorry to say. Fortunately my dad didn’t do actually do it. He sold his house for less than he’d paid, but was not actually underwater on the mortgage.
So what’s next?
UK Defense Minister Quits After Making His Own Nation Indefensible?
UK Foreign Minister Quits After Making His Own Citizens Foreigners?
UK Prime Minister Quits After Making His Own Country Unlivable?
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Let’s just say that someone I know—a pretty smart woman, too—went the jinglemail route on a house which was admittedly a disaster, but her credit did admittedly suffer for the next seven years.
As I recall, although she and her husband had invested a lot of sweat in a lot of major upgrades, when she abandoned it, the bank still had to put a lot more work into it, and still had problems selling it.
Wrong house, wrong location, wrong time to buy it; panic buying, and the triumph of optimism over caution and common sense.
I’m sure the bank was not happy.
I liked Venus better when it was covered with oceans and lush swampy jungles as in Golden Age science fiction.
Interestingly, the Soviets launched more probes of Venus than the US. The footage of the Venusian surface we see in this video is Soviet.
@Snow on Pine:I’m sure the bank was not happy.
And neither was she, if she thought sending the keys to the bank made them squaresies. You still have to pay the mortgage, and all the fees from foreclosure, and good luck getting another mortgage or a refinance any time soon.
Regarding the ideas above about the FPF, Nonapod’s proposal about photosynthesis intrigues. The role of plate tectonics is also interesting, but photosynthesis especially. I was never able to really get photosynthesis, and indeed achieved notoriety (in my own mind) for completely whiffing on a final exam question about photosystem II – I couldn’t come up with a single sentence on the subject.
How’s this for a solution of the “Fermi Paradox”? Maybe it’s possible, with advanced technology, to destroy the universe by triggering vacuum decay. Why would they do that? Maybe by accident, maybe for philosophical reasons, maybe as a Doomsday Weapon, maybe the work of a single mad scientist. In that case you wouldn’t expect a universe to harbor more than one or two advanced technological civilizations. If the transitions from life to intelligence and technology are easy, then you wouldn’t expect a universe to have very many life-bearing worlds before one of them blows it up.
@ jon baker & huxley – I’m not familiar with the Russian plan. Is that why they sent so many probes?
I’m going to stick with Carson of Venus (Burroughs) on an Alternate Time Line Parallel Universe.
@ bof > “If the transitions from life to intelligence and technology are easy, then you wouldn’t expect a universe to have very many life-bearing worlds before one of them blows it up.”
I think that’s the foundation of a number of science fiction stories involving non-terrestrial visitors monitoring earth to see what side of the line we will fall on: growing up or blowing up.
Non-intervention is required, so they don’t ruin the experiment.
@ physicsguy – when there was a spate of reporting from town halls a few months ago, it turned out that most or even all of them were astroturf by “concerned conservatives” who were sometimes actually identified by real reporters as Democrats.
@ SHIREHOME > “Physicsguy, I am stressed. Stressed that the Rep may still screw it up and then the Dems will come back – much worse than before.”
It’s a legitimate worry, the more so because Democrat voters will only see the McCaskill-style reports and never the debunking, which they apparently wouldn’t believe anyway (to wit: “many fine people on both sides” is still circulating).
@ Art Deco > “Why does this happen to women”
Refer to any of Artfldgr’s comments.
They invite and allow it to happen.
The upside is that Democrats / leftists are engendering their own eventual extinction.
That’s why they have to corrupt other people’s kids.
Dr. Jeremiah Johnston debunks carbon dating lies about the Shroud of Turin – Tucker Carlson Video
This person apparently was swayed by a lot of people on the Internet who were saying how great this jingle mail ploy was, as a way to get out from under a house and mortgage which had become a disaster.
I presume they only tred lightly on the actual consequences.
@Snow on Pine:I presume they only tred lightly on the actual consequences.
That was what I noted above, that the legacy media articles and online chatter about “jingle mail” never made the full consequences of that move clear.
That was what I noted above, that the legacy media articles and online chatter about “jingle mail” never made the full consequences of that move clear.
— Niketas Choniates
There’s an even worse one out there.
For decades, there’s been a fringey legal argument that the 16th Amendment was never really ratified and thus the Federal Government has no authority to levy an income tax. The arguments are garbage, but there are con men out there who peddle it and a surprising number of naive people have sunk themselves into deep legal and financial trouble for believing it.
For the record for anyone reading this, lurker or otherwise, pin this in your mind: “YES, the Federal Government can tax your income. YES, you can ruin your life trying to evade it. NO, that warm, friendly, authoritative-seeming guy on YouTube or at the seminar telling you otherwise is not an expert and he is not on your side and no, he is not telling you the truth.”
HC68–Of a lot more impact, apparently, are the people on Youtube and elsewhere, catering to the fantasies of the ignorant/uneducated, and selling them the idea that–based on the misinterpretation a few old treaties, the Uniform Commercial Code, and some cockamamie legal theories–they are “sovereign citizens,” owing nothing to, and not–in any way–subject to the jurisdiction of the government of the United States, or any of the individual States, on any matter.
I gather that, for a couple hundred bucks or so these scammers will sell you a packet of documents supposedly proving your individual “sovereignty.” They will also apparently sell you “license plates,” and identity documents based on this theory.
Another version of this scam is focused on Blacks, who are told that they are “Indigenous” or “Moorish” citizens and, therefore, “sovereign” as well, sometimes apparently with their own parallel government, sometimes headed by a “King,” with some of these Moorish sovcits sometimes claiming to be “Ambassadors,” of their parallel government, with Diplomatic Immunity.
According to what I’ve seen on Youtube, this sovereign citizen idea has spread from the U.S. to Canada, Australia, and elsewhere, causing lots of traffic stops–for phony or no license plates–which often turn violent as the sovereign citizens refuse to obey cops and, thereafter, clogging the courts with all of the already prepared sovereign citizen pleadings and legal motions which are part of some of these packets.
From the number of “sov citizen” traffic stops shown on Youtube, this movement appears to be growing.
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So Claire McCaskill claims that the public is stressed out over Trump’s economic policy and that the anger is erupting on Republicans. Funny, I’m not stressed and haven’t heard many complaints even from the left minions. For your amusement:
https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/republican-angry-town-halls-mistake-trump-tariffs-rcna223867
Physicsguy, I am stressed. Stressed that the Rep may still screw it up and then the Dems will come back – much worse than before.
This tastefully attired woman is Dianne Feinstein’s one and only grandchild. She has an MPH degree and at the time of this event, she held a patronage job in the San Francisco city government. Also at that time, she was 34 years old, unmarried and childless. Speaking, she sounds like an adolescent, nothing like what my mother’s contemporaries sounded like at a similar age. Why does this happen to women?
==
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWZGCXF0Q-U
Venus likely represents one of the paths a rock terrestrial planet with a star’s habitable zone can take, perhaps even a very common one. Unlike Earth, evidently Venus never developed a system of plate tectonics. On Earth, heat generated in the core and mantle (from the decay of radioactive elements) is gradually released via plate tectonics. But on Venus without plate tectonics, the currently theory is this heat builds up over hundreds of millions of years until a massive, catastrophic resurfacing occurrs periodically. During a resurfacing event essentially the entire surface of the planet becomes a molten sea. Massive amounts of carbon dioxide and sulfer build up in the atmosphere and cause the infamous “run away greenhouse effect’ that Venus is known for. The current thinking seems to be that these resurfacing events might happen once every many hundreds of millions of years, with the last one happening in the range of 300-500mya.
New Fermi Paradox filter, eh? Or at least new to me.
Unless the folks I’ve been following thought of plate tectonics as a side effect of a large moon (or maybe planetary collision) and I never caught that little fillip being mentioned.
The Fermi Paradox is the question of, with the universe (and even our galaxy) as big as it is, where are all the aliens?
A Fermi Paradox filter is a reason why intelligent life doesn’t happen, and multiplying the probabilities of them all together can get you an estimate for how many alien civilizations there ‘ought’ to be in the galaxy.
The biggest problem with considering whether something is a filter or not is that we only have the one example of a life-bearing planet, and very little information about any exoplanets. Is a given feature likely, but unique in the solar system? Hard to tell.
I thought that was the drake equation of course you have to calculate the value of each variable
Yeah, so far it seems like the presence of plate tectonics seems to be critical for an Earth-like planet to develop, or at least that’s the current thinking. You need lots of liquid water and internal heat for plate tectonics. Venus likely had liquid water early on, but it may have boiled away due to it being too close to the Sun.
The FPF is an attempt to define one of the parameters in the Drake equation as being extremely improbable. For some time it was thought that planet formation was unlikely, now we know that is the opposite. So FPF posits that one of the factors in the DE has to be very improbable in order to answer the question: “where are they?”. Which parameter is it? Not known.
I’ve talked to biologists who think that intelligence as an evolutionary step is unlikely. Standard Darwin has difficulty with abiogenesis, as well as the sudden appearance of new species. So the FPF filter ball is in the biologist’s court at present. Finding any evidence of past life on Mars would change the game again.
Of course the sociologists and historians have to weigh in on the likelihood of a civilization surviving to the point of extrasolar communication (where we are) and travel (not there yet).
@Boobah:Unless the folks I’ve been following thought of plate tectonics as a side effect of a large moon (or maybe planetary collision) and I never caught that little fillip being mentioned.
Earth’s moon has a very small influence on Earth’s plate tectonics. The same tidal forces that have locked one face of the moon to face Earth also pull on the Earth’s crust and mantle and generate a small fraction of the heat involved. I don’t think it’s probably that.
My suspision is that abiogenesis is not common, but not extremely rare either. I think that the development of multicellularity and/or photosynthesis may be more of a filter. I wouldn’t be surprised if we eventually find some evidence of microfossils of simple, long extinct archaea somewhere else in the solar system like Mars, but nothing more complex than that and nothing currently living. Part of my reasoning for that has to do with the fact that it took a relatively very long time for complex life to develop on Earth. Throughout most of Earth’s history, literally billions of years, the most sophisticated life was simple unicelluar organisms. The evolution of complex life on Earth is relatively recent, less that 635 million years ago (see Ediacaran Biota). This suggests to me that it takes a very long time for such a thing to happen with highly unlikely, ideal circumstances.
When I think of Venus I think of the old Russian ( ? ) proposal of building a floating station high in the Venusian atmosphere. Apparently a replicated Earth atmosphere in a giant balloon could float in the dense Venus atmosphere.
Release the sulfurophage!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTFu3Q_pkeY
==
For some reason, Canadian provinces have a ‘housing shortage’.
RE: Don’t pay your debts
A lot of prime morons on Youtube, advocating not paying your credit card, student loan, or other debt, based on a number of ridiculous theories.
One, what looks to be a pimply, late high school or college-aged guy, urges everyone to borrow as much as they can from a Sweden based lender called Klara.
This, on the theory that since Klara is based in Sweden—in another country–you don’t have to pay off any debts to them because—being in another country–they can’t come after you.
Tell that to the U.S. debt collector Klara hires to hunt you down.
Another genius, this one from England, says that since the money a bank loans to you is not “their money”–but other people’s money–you have no duty to pay the bank back, etc., etc., etc.
Others say, rack up as much debt as you can–grab all the goodies that you can–don’t pay these debts off, and wait the seven years for those bad debts to be cleared from your Credit Report.
Of course, they don’t tell you how you are going to live, in our economy, during those seven years with no access to credit.
The financial illiteracy and lack of basic morality displayed here is staggering.
P.S.–One grinning boob is also on Youtube, bragging that he has a plastic bag in his closet with, I believe the number was 73 credit cards in it. Which, it appears, he has no intention of paying off.
(After you’ve not paid the first few payments, how can you possibly get that many other credit cards sent to you?)
Snow,
There always were and always will be people like that, they’re the reason Democrats exist!
@Snow on Pine:A lot of prime morons on Youtube, advocating not paying your credit card, student loan, or other debt, based on a number of ridiculous theories.
In 2008 and in 2016 there was a rash of stories in legacy media about “jingle mail”, mailing your keys to your mortgage lender instead of making payments, with a strategically selective narrative about the consequences (“your credit rating may suffer for a few years” YA THINK). Galactically stupid. When your lender takes your house, you’re not off the hook for the mortgage. You need to read all that paperwork. My sister said something once about advising my dad to do that and I gave her both barrels, I’m sorry to say. Fortunately my dad didn’t do actually do it. He sold his house for less than he’d paid, but was not actually underwater on the mortgage.
The abhorrent Starmer regime in a nutshell:
“UK Homelessness Minister Quits After Making Her Own Tenants Homeless”—
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/uk-homelessness-minister-quits-after-making-her-own-tenants-homeless
So what’s next?
UK Defense Minister Quits After Making His Own Nation Indefensible?
UK Foreign Minister Quits After Making His Own Citizens Foreigners?
UK Prime Minister Quits After Making His Own Country Unlivable?
Ready to earn a truly substantial part-time income entirely online without ever leaving your home? We are currently offering an impressive $220 per hour for all dedicated and reliable online workers who meet our basic requirements. This is a fantastic and genuine opportunity to easily supplement your current earnings or even build an entirely new flexible career path that suits your needs. Discover many more important details about this opportunity right here. Visit this website
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Nikitas Choniates—
Let’s just say that someone I know—a pretty smart woman, too—went the jinglemail route on a house which was admittedly a disaster, but her credit did admittedly suffer for the next seven years.
As I recall, although she and her husband had invested a lot of sweat in a lot of major upgrades, when she abandoned it, the bank still had to put a lot more work into it, and still had problems selling it.
Wrong house, wrong location, wrong time to buy it; panic buying, and the triumph of optimism over caution and common sense.
I’m sure the bank was not happy.
I liked Venus better when it was covered with oceans and lush swampy jungles as in Golden Age science fiction.
Interestingly, the Soviets launched more probes of Venus than the US. The footage of the Venusian surface we see in this video is Soviet.
@Snow on Pine:I’m sure the bank was not happy.
And neither was she, if she thought sending the keys to the bank made them squaresies. You still have to pay the mortgage, and all the fees from foreclosure, and good luck getting another mortgage or a refinance any time soon.
Regarding the ideas above about the FPF, Nonapod’s proposal about photosynthesis intrigues. The role of plate tectonics is also interesting, but photosynthesis especially. I was never able to really get photosynthesis, and indeed achieved notoriety (in my own mind) for completely whiffing on a final exam question about photosystem II – I couldn’t come up with a single sentence on the subject.
How’s this for a solution of the “Fermi Paradox”? Maybe it’s possible, with advanced technology, to destroy the universe by triggering vacuum decay. Why would they do that? Maybe by accident, maybe for philosophical reasons, maybe as a Doomsday Weapon, maybe the work of a single mad scientist. In that case you wouldn’t expect a universe to harbor more than one or two advanced technological civilizations. If the transitions from life to intelligence and technology are easy, then you wouldn’t expect a universe to have very many life-bearing worlds before one of them blows it up.
@ jon baker & huxley – I’m not familiar with the Russian plan. Is that why they sent so many probes?
I’m going to stick with Carson of Venus (Burroughs) on an Alternate Time Line Parallel Universe.
@ bof > “If the transitions from life to intelligence and technology are easy, then you wouldn’t expect a universe to have very many life-bearing worlds before one of them blows it up.”
I think that’s the foundation of a number of science fiction stories involving non-terrestrial visitors monitoring earth to see what side of the line we will fall on: growing up or blowing up.
Non-intervention is required, so they don’t ruin the experiment.
@ physicsguy – when there was a spate of reporting from town halls a few months ago, it turned out that most or even all of them were astroturf by “concerned conservatives” who were sometimes actually identified by real reporters as Democrats.
@ SHIREHOME > “Physicsguy, I am stressed. Stressed that the Rep may still screw it up and then the Dems will come back – much worse than before.”
It’s a legitimate worry, the more so because Democrat voters will only see the McCaskill-style reports and never the debunking, which they apparently wouldn’t believe anyway (to wit: “many fine people on both sides” is still circulating).
@ Art Deco > “Why does this happen to women”
Refer to any of Artfldgr’s comments.
They invite and allow it to happen.
The upside is that Democrats / leftists are engendering their own eventual extinction.
That’s why they have to corrupt other people’s kids.
Dr. Jeremiah Johnston debunks carbon dating lies about the Shroud of Turin – Tucker Carlson Video
https://commoncts.blogspot.com/2025/08/dr-jeremiah-johnston-debunks-carbon.html
Niketas Choniates–
RE: Jingle Mail
This person apparently was swayed by a lot of people on the Internet who were saying how great this jingle mail ploy was, as a way to get out from under a house and mortgage which had become a disaster.
I presume they only tred lightly on the actual consequences.
@Snow on Pine:I presume they only tred lightly on the actual consequences.
That was what I noted above, that the legacy media articles and online chatter about “jingle mail” never made the full consequences of that move clear.
— Niketas Choniates
There’s an even worse one out there.
For decades, there’s been a fringey legal argument that the 16th Amendment was never really ratified and thus the Federal Government has no authority to levy an income tax. The arguments are garbage, but there are con men out there who peddle it and a surprising number of naive people have sunk themselves into deep legal and financial trouble for believing it.
For the record for anyone reading this, lurker or otherwise, pin this in your mind: “YES, the Federal Government can tax your income. YES, you can ruin your life trying to evade it. NO, that warm, friendly, authoritative-seeming guy on YouTube or at the seminar telling you otherwise is not an expert and he is not on your side and no, he is not telling you the truth.”
HC68–Of a lot more impact, apparently, are the people on Youtube and elsewhere, catering to the fantasies of the ignorant/uneducated, and selling them the idea that–based on the misinterpretation a few old treaties, the Uniform Commercial Code, and some cockamamie legal theories–they are “sovereign citizens,” owing nothing to, and not–in any way–subject to the jurisdiction of the government of the United States, or any of the individual States, on any matter.
I gather that, for a couple hundred bucks or so these scammers will sell you a packet of documents supposedly proving your individual “sovereignty.” They will also apparently sell you “license plates,” and identity documents based on this theory.
Another version of this scam is focused on Blacks, who are told that they are “Indigenous” or “Moorish” citizens and, therefore, “sovereign” as well, sometimes apparently with their own parallel government, sometimes headed by a “King,” with some of these Moorish sovcits sometimes claiming to be “Ambassadors,” of their parallel government, with Diplomatic Immunity.
According to what I’ve seen on Youtube, this sovereign citizen idea has spread from the U.S. to Canada, Australia, and elsewhere, causing lots of traffic stops–for phony or no license plates–which often turn violent as the sovereign citizens refuse to obey cops and, thereafter, clogging the courts with all of the already prepared sovereign citizen pleadings and legal motions which are part of some of these packets.
From the number of “sov citizen” traffic stops shown on Youtube, this movement appears to be growing.