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  1. I first read the term injunctivitis coined by Jonathan Turley (which Reynolds notes in his essay).

    I keep wondering whether these judges continue issuing “national” injunctions because they can, or if they’re consciously trying to bait Trump into ignoring them to cite him as the source of the so-called constitutional crisis? (I know, embrace the power of “and”).

    Turley, Reynolds, and (Josh) Blackman, among others clearly indicate their belief that any crisis here is being fomented by the judiciary and not by the executive branch. With today’s Appeal’s Court reversal of the injunctive stay, and SCOTUS’ 8-0 curb on judicial environmental authority, one might think that SCOTUS is in this camp as well.

    People seem to be looking to the upcoming decision on the birthright case expecting a definitive ruling on the validity of national circuit injunctions, but SCOTUS has surprised us before. As William Jabson (Legal Insurrection) has noted: “What’s going on at the Supreme Court is that not enough is going on.”

  2. I was watching a Republican Congresswoman from out West beating the bleep out of a witness about the judicial injunctions. She made some point about bonds being needed. Anyone know what she was talking about?

  3. Paul, the BBB has a provision The plaintiffs have to provide a bond before the district courts in Junction can be enforced

  4. Legal or illegal has got nothing to do with it. This is a political issue totally under the purview of congress. The leftist trash judges are running interference for a minority that hasn’t got the votes.

  5. Congress seems content to sit on its hands and watch the action.
    I know Trump was focused on his BBB, but it is time for him to tell Congress to either validate his agenda; or publicly oppose it.

    I have seen more than once that a Federal Judge has brazenly violated procedural requirements before issuing an injunction. I don’t know why the Administration does not put that to the test by refusing to acknowledge such flawed decisions.

    I also don’t understand why they have not summarily rejected every policy decision that was signed by auto pen during Biden’s term. Put the onus on the other side to prove that they were legitimate. Further, Congress, or SCOTUS as appropriate, should outlaw the use of the auto pen for policy documents. It should be a legal requirement that they be signed by the President in a pubic venue–with the exception of emergency decrees, in which case the President should publicly validate his actions at the first possible moment. This foolishness is more Third World nonsense.
    Oddly, if a private citizen use docu-sign on a legal document, or e- files a tax return, they must have a PIN to validate the process.
    A President on matters of national imporatnce? Nope.

  6. The injunction apparently has been stayed/lifted pending further review, so the tariffs can continue to be levied.

  7. Missing from Turley’s article, that other Presidents imposed tariffs using the same IEEPA emergency law, and were mysteriously not hit with injunctions.

    So this is a statute that was enacted in the 1970s. It is an extraordinarily broad delegation of power to the president that gets triggered whenever the president finds an unusual and extraordinary threat outside the United States. And then the statute says that the president, once that trigger is made, gets to regulate imports.

    People have been saying, Oh, this isn’t one of those situations.

    Sorry, but presidents have used IEEPA dozens of times, and made emergency findings of an extraordinary threat outside the United States much lower than the economic threat President Trump has identified. So that part of IEEPA will not be hard to satisfy.

    President Nixon did this, too. He did a 10 percent import duty under the predecessor to this statute with identical language, which justified the 10 percent duty.

    So in my judgment, the president has at least a plausible argument on the face of the statute. So I don’t know who’s going to win or lose this. But the president is on stronger legal ground. There are a lot of tricky legal issues.

  8. Decisions should have some logic behind them, referring to precedent ans statute

  9. CC™ talking out of his ass?

    Shocked!

    Wholly unanticipated and unprescidented.

    Judges above the law? Who knew, not that Chief Justice Roberts has never decided to make the law.

  10. Sure Art Deco. I agree with a 3-0 decision from three Article III judges, a Reagan appointee, an Obama appointee and . . . wait for it . . . a Trump appointee. All three agreed that his invocation of the IEEPA was improper, but I’m the one “talking out of my ass.”

    You’re funny.

  11. Legal or illegal has got nothing to do with it. This is a political issue totally under the purview of congress. The leftist trash judges are running interference for a minority that hasn’t got the votes. [Chases Eagles @ 6:03 pm]

    From Instapundit earlier this afternoon:

    A party with less than 20% approval is using unelected Judges to deny the will of the American people.

    I never want to hear the term “Constitutional Crisis” ever again.

    — C3 (@C_3C_3) May 29, 2025

    Posted at 2:45 pm by Ed Driscol

    I think that sums it up.

  12. It appears that CC™ is toots fine with rule by Judges. The Ahab judges and the loyal cabin boy CC™ are in hot pursuit of The Great Orange Whale.

    Has CC™ ever noticed that being appointed or nominated by a Republican president is a very unreliable predictor of sound conservative jurisprudence?

  13. Remember he was sure Orange Man was felon!! because reasons hes just too easy a mark

    Outside of thomas and scalia i mean alito everything else is calvinball
    Those two were cleareyed with the fraud in 2020

  14. om – I’m fine with the rule of law. I’m certainly fine with the major questions doctrine and I’m even fine with the non-delegation doctrine, and I’d like to see it revived.

    In other words, I’m fine with the legal philosophy that the right has believed for decades, and that MAGA professed believe when it was constraining Biden and Obama. Unfortunately, MAGA wants to abandon that legal philosophy now that Trump is the executive being constrained.

    I want Trump’s novel and expansive claims of executive power to be constrained because I think he’s a nut job on tariffs, yes, but also because I sure as heck do not want a Democrat in the White House to have the same expansive powers. If Trump can declare a contrived trade “emergency” over conditions that have existed for half a century and, thereby, exercise Congress’s full powers over setting and collecting tariffs, have you even thought about what a Democrat could do? How about the climate “emergency” they keep talking about. Just imagine how the executive could exercise Congress’s commerce clause powers in that case. And if Trump’s reasoning prevails, a Democrat’s declaration of a climate “emergency” would be a non-justiciable political question. How about a structural racism “emergency?” How about a “civil rights emergency” over men not being permitted to compete in women’s sports. I’m sure they can get even more creative than that.

    As I mentioned previously, there have been a lot of really bad decisions against the Trump administration, but not all of them have been bad and not every decision against the Trump is TDS or OMB.

    I see a great deal of confusion because its difficult to distinguish the good cases from the bad. What I also see, however, is that MAGA is willing to throw overboard everything that we all professed to believe until about 10 minutes ago now that it is inconvenient to Trump.

    I don’t know what MAGA is, but conservative it ain’t.

  15. And if you really want to understand what we’re dealing with, peruse the website of the law firm that brought the case against Trump’s tariffs:

    https://libertyjusticecenter.org/

    They represent truckers vindicating their 2nd amendment rights. They represent a professor who was fired for criticizing DEI. They represented a government worker suing to avoid joining a union.

    These are not crazy lefties. They’re not lefties at all.

  16. I’m fine with the rule of law.
    ==
    If it can be used for debater’s points.

  17. That’s some Grade A BS, Art Deco. I defended Trump against ridiculous criminal charges. I regularly defend his administration when against ridiculous decisions. I’m not not the one applying situational principles here.

  18. The documents case the new york fraud case the atlanta case need i go on?

  19. Poor little CC™ he can’t tell the difference between a Law and a Judge, because The Great Orange Whale.

    Not at all a new thing with him, but still a sad case.

  20. Related:

    “Despite Tariff-flation Fearmongering, Fed’s Favorite Inflation Indicator Tumbles To Four-Year Low”—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/despite-tariff-flation-fearmongering-feds-favorite-inflation-indicator-tumbles-four-year
    Key grafs:

    …Finally, for all the terror of tariffs in the soft survey data, spending continues to increase and incomes are growing strongly…

    …On the income side, both govt and private workers saw compensation accelerate…

    …Given the outperformance of income over spending, the savings rate rebounded strongly to its highest since April 2024…

    …it’s gonna be hard for Powell to justify the ‘pause’ now.

    But will Powell do ANYTHING to help Trump rescue the country??

    This seems to be the key question.

    Doubtful…since I suspect he’s under phenomenal pressure by the usual suspects—those PROUD, INDEFATIGABLE national saboteurs—to do NOTHING that might assist Trump and make him look good, even if the country, as a whole (AND ITS CITIZENS), benefits.
    Hope I’m wrong…

  21. Bauxite has his tenses confused. The Dems have already been getting away with novel and expansive executive powers for a couple of decades now, but since the Swamp profited by that Bauxite’s okay with it.

    I guess True Conservatism is conserving what Dems have got away with and sitting on your hands instead of rolling anything back.

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